Hi all, this is my first post to the list.
I saw an old NEC computer in a storage shed that I was thinking of trying to
save. It has 'APC' on the front (Advanced Personal Computer?), two vertical 8"
floppies, and built in screen. Is it one of those 8-bit CP/M systems? If
anyone has any info on this system I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Andy
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Andy Molloy
woodfrog(a)operamail.com
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:08:02 -0600 George E Hall <ghall8360(a)juno.com>
writes:
> Do you still have any of the PCs that you wanted to get rid of?
====> I don't know if this was directed to me or not but will
answer. I have one PC left to find a home for.
ARC X-TURBO
FLIP TOP CASE, 640K 8MHZ MOTHER BOARD, CLOCK/CALENDAR, TWO
PAR, 2 SER, GAME PORT, 4 DRIVE CONTROLLER (RIBBON CABLES),
135W POWER SUPPLY, COLOR BOARD(RGB), 83 KEY KEYBOARD, TAXAN
415 MONITOR, THE HEART OF THE ARC X-TURBO IS THE INTEL
8088-2 MICRO-PROCESSOR USED IN THE IBM PERSONAL COMPUTER.
TWO 5 1/4' FULL SIZE DISK DRIVES.
TWO 5 1/4" HALF SIZE HIGH DENSITY EXTERNAL DISK DRIVES
====> If interested let me know
Paul Marzolf
pmarzolf(a)juno.com
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No Duty. I move machines from the US to Canada and Canada to the US.. You
pay DEPENDING on how honest you are.
You may have to pay State tax on the purchase price when bringing it across
the border. Be sure to say it is for your PERSONAL hobby. Get a receipt from
the place you are purchasing the mini from.
If you..,,, well.... ummm, some people.. might do this:
Go to the customs office BEFORE they pick up their equipment. They bring a
small dead case with a tag that has the "model # and serial number" of the
mini. They get customs to give them a green card for the unit so it can
re-enter the country free of charge. You get the idea....
or
They write you a receipt for $50 calling it old computer junk..
It's hardly worth while if you are paying small $$$$ for it.
Make sure you know the country of origin.
If you tell customs this is a business transaction and you don't have an
Import/Export License nor valid paper work you will probably end up LEAVING
it there... (after they beat you up ;-) )
To avoid hassles I got my import/export license and am my own Broker... no
headaches other than having to wait in line with the truckers.
john
http://www.pdp8.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Whoohoo! Fortune Telling...
>Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com> wrote about moving big iron
>from Canada to the US:
>> and what problems I might have with Customs on the
>> return trip (but I know a lot of Customs agents, so I should be able to
>> swing anything provided it's not illegal... :-)
>
>I don't know any Customs agents, but I need to move a large machine from
>Vancouver BC into the US soon. What sort of experience should I expect?
>If asked to describe it, what should I say? Will I have to pay duties
>on it?
>
I have a toshiba T1200, but the screen cracked, i've taken it apart, and lost
jumpers, the hard drive stopped working, and i just wanna know if anyone
knows how to get this thing back to life?
When you get to my stage of life, they're just as much fun in bed . . .
trust me . . .
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Sudbrink <bill(a)chipware.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, November 15, 1999 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Dont want to start a flame war here but
>> One more thing . . . about those wives . . . I've done
>> pretty well without 'em and prefer it that way, having
>> tried it both ways.
>>
>> The old computer hardware's cheaper, easier to live
>> with, and more forgiving.
>
>Yes, but not as much fun in bed. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
I have a TI 990/10 mini as well as a handbook for the SYSTEM family of
peripherals for TI 990 systems.
Sincerely
Larry Truthan
-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Keys Jr. [mailto:jrkeys@concentric.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 7:37 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: TI99 another issue.
There web sites showing both machines and they are real, but hard to find.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 9:30 AM
Subject: TI99 another issue.
> Does anybody here on the list know about the TI 99/2 or /8 models ?
> Or own one ? I just remember photographs from the early 80s.
>
> Gruss
> H.
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Hi All,
I was in a surplus store yesterday and they had a GRID desktop PC. I
didn't know GRID ever made a desktop model. This was a white case with both
3.5" and 5.25" disk drives and 7 expansion slots and a separate monitor.
It looks a lot like an Epson Equity computer. Any comments?
Joe
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:58:05 -0500 (EST) "Merle K. Peirce"
<at258(a)osfn.org> writes:
> A hard drive was offered for the system. There were APC Newsletters
> also.We have some somewhere and they detail all the peripherals on
> offer.
>
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jeffrey l Kaneko wrote:
>
> > According to the _Microcomputer_Buyers_Guide_ (1983 edition):
> >
> > "The APC is a new 16-bit microcomputer from NEC.
> > The basic compact integrated desktop system includes
<SNIP>
Interesting, that must have been offered *after* 1983! Did they
later remove the 256k memory limitation?
Also, in mid-83 they offered some Z-80 systems that used OASIS.
Funny the _Buyers_Guide_ supplement (dated 5/83) mention harddrives
(big, for the time) for their CP/M and OASIS machines, but nothing
for NEC's 16-bit systems.
I guess no reference is definitive . . .
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According to the _Microcomputer_Buyers_Guide_ (1983 edition):
"The APC is a new 16-bit microcomputer from NEC.
The basic compact integrated desktop system includes
the following components: NEC UPD 8086 (8086 compatible)
5MHz microprocessor, 128k RAM memory; 4Kb ROM; 4kb
CMOS RAM; parallel printer interface; one or two 8"
floppy disk drives at 243Kb or 1Mb capacity; music output;
momochrome or color display (depending on the model);
and keyboard. The APC can expand to 256Kb of RAM;
maximum of two 8" floppy disks; second RS-232 port;
32-bit floating point unit; and a line drawing graphics
subsystem."
A kinda odd system, with some rather strange limitations for
a micro in 1983. Most notably, memory limitations and the
fact that there are no hard disks offered for it. Definitely a
pre-PC design. I am under he impression that it was
originally intended as a word processor, but marketed as a
computer.
It ran CPM-86 or MS-DOS (both specific to the APC). The
graphics board could do 1024 x 1024, although only 640 x 475
could be actually displayed on screen. The color version
used an 8 color (3-bit) palette.
Suggested base price: Color, dual floppy $4,998
Mono, single floppy $3,298
Jeff
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:43:06 -0500 "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
writes:
> At 09:34 AM 11/18/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi all, this is my first post to the list.
> >
> >I saw an old NEC computer in a storage shed that I was thinking of
> trying to
> >save. It has 'APC' on the front (Advanced Personal Computer?), two
> vertical 8"
> >floppies, and built in screen. Is it one of those 8-bit CP/M
> systems? If
> >anyone has any info on this system I would appreciate it. Thanks.
> >
> >Andy
> >
> Hi, Andy:
>
> The one I have uses an early version of DOS, but that is all
> the info I
> have on it.
>
> Regards
>
> Charlie Fox
>
>
> Charles E. Fox
> Chas E. Fox Video Productions
> 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor N8Y 3J8 Ont. Canada
> email foxvideo(a)wincom.net Homepage
> http://www.wincom.net/foxvideo
>
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