<I've got two complete H-11 systems but have not yet got them running. Back
<burner project setting with all the others. Should get to them I guess so'
<I could help several here who have them. I could look up stuff if either o
<you need info. Seems Allison has had one for years that she hotrodded with
<a better CPU, etc.
Thats mroe or less true. Got rid of that box many years ago and am
collecting the heath bits to make another. I have many Qbus 11s though and
the heath is just another qbus 11 of less substantial design.
I happen to like the h11-5 serial board, if DLV11-F or F similar and can be
set up for current loop or rs232/423 with or without modem controls. I'm
still using one to support a LA100 using the RT-11 LS driver, works very
good @9600 baud.
Allison
<I know there's alot on the h-11 in the archives and I'll hit them too but
<know zilch about it right now. The cards in the tilt out qbus(?) are:
< 1. Digital M7264
< 2. H-11-5 Serial i/o
< 3. H27 Floppy i/o
< 4. H-11-5 Serial i/o
an ok designed DLV11e/f serial card.
< 5. M8044 CB
memory Q18 FYI:
< 6. M9400 YB
Teminator with boot, last card on the bus ALWAYS.
< 7. WHA-11-16 16k x 16k Memory
16k static ram, heath... Good memory.
<My goal is to get rt(h)-11 and some decus? software (a c compiler) softwar
<humming.
Decus C will run under RT.
Watch out for the PS, the heath design was a switching low voltage design
and tended to fry itself.
Allison
<Well, my resources concerning SYSBOOT limited to:
<
< From memory:
< [Ctrl/P] Switch to Processor Console Mode
< H Halt a running system (Worse than crashing it)
< I Initialize (Program counter??)
< U Unjam (??)
< B Boot (From curent parameters??)
You forgot [E]xamine ram and [W]rite ram. Most of these have arguments
that extend them.
Allison
I don't know what the "ideal" format for storing complete documents with
both text and graphic representations of their content. I also don't want
to resurrect the virtual war that resulted when I previously offered to
generate PDF formatted files from dozens of floppy and hard disk documents
in my possession.
My scanner likes to produce TIF files and I can send 'em to you that way or
in any other format that's hopefully easier to ship. Emanuel Stiebler was
kind enough to scan the SHUGART and SEAGATE documents I have. His OCR
software, which, in the wake of the flame-war over format, he hasn't yet
found time to apply, prefers 4-bit greyscale for the best conversion. Mine
prefers single-bit, which is naturally a quarter the size, so since mine
produces typically 1 MB/page, his produced considerably more than that, and
when he brought his 8GB SCSI drive for me to copy those files, I had to lay
it off to tape because I didn't have that much space on my server. That
documentation comprises perhaps half of one percent of what I'd like to put
out there, but I absolutely don't want to form and maintain a website, so
I'm grateful that you're willing. In compressed PDF, you can probably host
hudreds of documents. In PCX, which I agree is an icky format, but which is
about 1/4 the size of the single-bit TIF files my scanner coughs up, you
won't even be able to host half my Intel documents. OCR is a possiblity,
but there's no realtively easy way to link converted text to the associated
illustrations, which are plentiful among old hardware doc's, to say nothing
of the text found within the illustrations.
I'd say you've got a tough job ahead of you, and I'll be sure to let you
know they're about to demolish one of those old stock-brokerage/insurance
company buildings with a 750TB disk farm still in it.
Nonetheless, if you come up with a way to solve this data format/transport
problem, please share it with me.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason McBrien <jbmcb(a)hotmail.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Classic Hardware Documentation Project
>Sure! The more the merrier. I'm starting out small, I only have about 9GB
of
>disk space on a Linux box to host everything. I'm hoping to get a cheap,
>gigantic IDE hard drive soon to complement it. PCX is a yucky format to
>store documentation in, I'm scanning all my stuff in as PDF's or compressed
>TIFFs, I'd like to stay away from GIFs because of all the legal weirdness
>going on with Unisys. I'm going to work on it this weekend, and hopefully I
>will have something up monday or tuesday. I'll let the list know...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:30 PM
>Subject: Re: Classic Hardware Documentation Project
>
>
>> GREAT!!! I've been pondering where to stash the documents, which will
>> ultimately amount to about 100GB of scanned , maybe 25 GB of
PCX-formatted
>> documents on disk drives, which will compress, of course, but the volume
>> grows steadily as I muck out.
>>
>> What I want is for all the hardware doc's I've saved all these years to
be
>> available to whoever needs them.
>>
>> Is that consistent with what you're planning?
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason McBrien <jbmcb(a)hotmail.com>
>> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
>> <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 1:52 PM
>> Subject: Classic Hardware Documentation Project
>>
>>
>> >I am starting a documentation project to collect hardware manuals and
>> >technical documents for all different types of old computers. Before I
>put
>> >it up for all to enjoy, I need to write a legal disclaimer saying, to
the
>> >effect, that I make no claim to own anything and to the best of my
>> knowledge
>> >it's all public domain info. Anyone know how I should word it, or anyone
>> >have an example on their web site? Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >-Jason McBrien
>> >-Wayne State University
>> >-Big Iron Fiend
>>
>>
Well, thanks to all those who replied last time.
I think I may be getting somewhare with the vax.
cant get the tape drive or deqna cards working,
(their leds tell me something is wrong) but that is not what I am going
to be asking about.
When I try and boot the vax, I get
Loading system software,
2..1..0..
%SYSBOOT-E-Unable to locate file DUDRIVER.EXE
?06 HLT INST
PC = 0000692B
now I can get into the sysboot utility, have no idea what to do here.
Is there a way I can get around this missing file, is the some command
at the chevrons (>>>) or the sysboot>
that I can use to get round this?
Thanks
Benjamin
--
www.carnagevisors.net
"One thing that might be cool is a list of doc's that people have available
for *trade*."
That might be one of the fields in the record, along with # of copies.
Or, if people have web pages, just a centralized list of 'have' and 'wanted'
links would be handy.
"I'm all for that. I fall into that latter as I've got a bunch of hardware
without docs and have found none around so far. Then, I've got some docs
but not the iron . . .
"
I think most folks are in the same situation, and I REALLY hate it
when I find out Frank, Eric, or someone else out here has a manual
that I just paid out the nose for on eBay. I'd be willing to host
this on spies, if folks feel like sending me lists of docs or sw
that they have for non-consumer computers (minis, etc. someone else
can take care of the micros..) and a contact adr. I'll have to do
this by hand for now until I can put some scripts together that
would let people add/delete things through a web interface.
Just to let folks know on the list that don't know about it already,
www.spies.com/aek/orphan.html is a collection of documentation from
dead computer companies. Other scanned docs exist for companies that
are still around, as well as pointers to other sites.
It may make sense to start a list of documentation and software that
exists in private collectors hands to avoid duplication of effort,
as has already happened with PDP-8 doc scanning, and to help others
who have the iron, but not the bits.
And that's just what the nameplate says, "FAT MAC 512".
Came with a disk with version 4.1 of Finder (Unknown MacOS)
Finder says it's by Bruce Horn and Steve Capps, (C) 1985 Apple Computer.
The Mac itself has the keyboard, mouse, and a printer, and an external
disk drive. Got it for $10 at a garage sale. This would make a perfect
console for the PDP-11 if I can find a terminal program for it. ^_^
The machine is in beautiful condition. Not a scratch on it.
I'm gonna try keeping it that way. ^_^ I was told by the seller
it was a broken word processor, it just flashed a question when she turned
it on. (The disk was jammed halfway in the drive. A quick application
of car keys fixed that. ^_^ Didn't roach the drive either.)
I may take pictures later.
(ObSlashdot)Wonder what I could do with a Beowulf cluster of these... ^_^
-------
GREAT!!! I've been pondering where to stash the documents, which will
ultimately amount to about 100GB of scanned , maybe 25 GB of PCX-formatted
documents on disk drives, which will compress, of course, but the volume
grows steadily as I muck out.
What I want is for all the hardware doc's I've saved all these years to be
available to whoever needs them.
Is that consistent with what you're planning?
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason McBrien <jbmcb(a)hotmail.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 1:52 PM
Subject: Classic Hardware Documentation Project
>I am starting a documentation project to collect hardware manuals and
>technical documents for all different types of old computers. Before I put
>it up for all to enjoy, I need to write a legal disclaimer saying, to the
>effect, that I make no claim to own anything and to the best of my
knowledge
>it's all public domain info. Anyone know how I should word it, or anyone
>have an example on their web site? Thanks in advance.
>
>-Jason McBrien
>-Wayne State University
>-Big Iron Fiend
