test-drb November 1999

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by allisonp＠world.std.com

<What are the commands available? And where can I find the boot sequences? <Which is kindofa moot point right now because I don't have an os disk. ;( CR, LF, P, /, R ODT is a very simple monitor for depositing, displaying memory and registers. If your serious about PDP-11s fine a copy of the Microcomputer handbook for one of the years in the range of 1976-9*! They are pretty common and essential in the informationof the PDP-11 family. <And what are all the device names? Depends... Allison

24 years, 10 months

New finds and some h-11 help

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<>Watch out for the PS, the heath design was a switching low voltage design <>and tended to fry itself. < <I don't suppose you have a modification to prevent this do you? :) Don't substitute on parts and if all else fails use an H780. Allison

24 years, 10 months

PDP-11 Freeware CD's under emulators

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

Zane wrote: >Of course it would be nice to mount the RT-11 Hobbyist software CD on a >emulator running the Hobbyist RT-11, and without MSCP, I don't believe that >is possible. The best way to do this is with John Wilson's full E11, where you can directly mount the high (RT-11 disk structure) partitions of the CD-ROM. Of course, this requires the commercial version of E11 for large disk MSCP support, and also requires a regular (non-hobbyist) RT-11 license to run (as the hobbyist RT-11 license is only good on the Supnik emulator.) I think it also requires a SCSI CD-ROM (though I could be wrong and it'll work fine with an IDE CD-ROM.) The next best way to do this is free, and doesn't require commercial anything, just the Supnik emulator running on your system and a copy of RT-11 in compliance with the hobbyist license. If you look in the RT-11 freeware CD at the ISO9660 partition, you'll see that each and every piece of software on the CD is represented as a logical .DSK file. In particular, in the /dsk directory, you'll find 185 logical disks of freeware, split up between the SIGtapes, the DECUS 11-xxx entries, and the "other" stuff. These can be mounted as any sort of volume you like under the Supnik emulator, as long as the emulated device is large enough to hold the contents of the .DSK (i.e. you can use an emulated RL02 to hold any virtual .DSK up to 20480 block.) Then you're home free, and have "direct" access under the emulator to all the contents. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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PDP-10's (was Re: (from usenet) PDP-11 emulator available)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com> wrote: > Isn't XKL doing -10 support? Dunno about that, but I do know that at least one employee of XKL has a copy of Zork for the -10 cuz I've run it (I used it to verify my port of the ancient MDL code to Inform... http://penguincentral.com/retrocomputing/zdungeon/ ...for Z-machines the world over, from the C-64 to the Palm Pilot). -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

24 years, 10 months

(from usenet) PDP-11 emulator available

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote: > However, I'd be interested in hearing peoples results with the originally > mentioned emulator. Bob Supnik's is quite excellent with better support > from the looks of things, but it looks as if the Begemot PDP-11 emulator > will do a couple things it won't (multiple terminals and DEQNA emulation). I helped Bob Supnik debug the RP driver for his PDP-11 emulator (because 2.9BSD didn't used to install) and can say that I'm happy with it. My BSD images are from a *real* 2.9BSD 16MT9 that I got about 15 years ago, and, once the RP driver was fixed up, things worked real smooth. While I have nothing against Ersatz-11, I don't need a PDP-11 emulator bad enough to pay for it. YMMV, -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

24 years, 10 months

What's RT-11's device name for TMSCP tapes?

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

[This line is here to make listproc stop bugging me] The subject says it all. (SUBJECT is one of listproc's commands and so it can't be on the first line of the message. ^_^) -------

24 years, 10 months

Classic Hardware Documentation Project

by foxnhare＠jps.net

> Subject: Re: Classic Hardware Documentation Project > Date:Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:11:09 -0500 > From: "Jason McBrien" <jbmcb(a)hotmail.com> > > Maybe not public domain, but I don't think, for example, Commodore (or > whoever owns them now) would mind posting the schematics for the C64, or if > someone were to scan in the owners manual for a TI/99, or a VAX 11/750 > technical manual. Otherwise, if a company goes belly-up, who owns the > copyright then? The disclaimer I'm looking to write acknologes all > copyrights, and would allow the holders to request that I take them down, as > long as they can proove that the copyright is still valid and that they own > it. Between Project 64 and the Funet.Fi Commodore archive I think the 64 is probably one of the best documented 8-bits on the net (and some of the other Commodore 8-bit models as well). I think there have been some issues with the games (like Hasbro who has been re-vamping old Atari titles and threatining some of the games sites), but not much mention from the original Commodore hardware community. :/ Ref: http://project64.c64.org/ http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/ -- 01000011 01001111 01001101 01001101 01001111 01000100 01001111 01010010 01000101 Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (209) 754-1363 300-2400 baud Commodore 8-bit page at: http://www.jps.net/foxnhare/commodore.html 01000011 01001111 01001101 01010000 01010101 01010100 01000101 01010010 01010011

24 years, 10 months

(from usenet) PDP-11 emulator available

by mbg＠world.std.com

>"Bob Supnik's is quite excellent with better support >from the looks of things" Bob's emulator is quite good, but a drawback is that it doesn't have MSCP emulation or Ethernet emulation. E11 (Ersatz-11) has both. I believe that Viking does as well. I don't know about Charon... >What is the status now of Bob's work, now that he has left DEC? >I thought I heard that Megan was working on 10 support, for example. Me? 10 Support? No... I'm simply working on trying to get my KS10 operational, while working off and on on a pdp-10 emulator, using Bob's package as a base. I have been working toward a KA10 emulator with conditionals (where I understand things enough) to do the right thing for a pdp-6 or a KI, and for those instructions I have done, I'm getting almost 600k emulated instructions per second (eips?). But I don't have the PI system working at all, and there are some issues about instruction processing I don't have down yet... Daniel Seagraves is working on a KL emulator, and actually has some code running, it appears (at least he has tried to boot ITS and it has done a little of the boot process). There are some other efforts around the net to produce various -10 emulations... I'm also in the process of getting all the software I do have for the 10, currently on tapes, off to other storage with the help of Tim Shoppa (actually, I'm just supplying him with tapes, and he's doing the work... :-) Most recent mail from him indicates we appear to have almost a complete 7.03 distribution, parts of the 7.03A patchs and working on a 7.04 distribution. But as for 'supporting' this stuff... I was an okay -10 programmer in college... I mostly did -11 stuff. I'll never be anywhere near the level of the -10 gurus who wrote this code... so I would not presume to 'support' it. Isn't XKL doing -10 support? Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

24 years, 10 months

What's RT-11's device name for TMSCP tapes?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> What's RT-11's device name for TMSCP tapes? MU0: through MU3:, assuming that they are SYSGENed into existence, you're running a version of RT-11 modern enough to support TMSCP (5.4 or later), and the CSR's and VECTOR's for the MU devices are set up to match your hardware. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

24 years, 10 months

(from usenet) PDP-11 emulator available

by mbg＠world.std.com

>"Bob Supnik's is quite excellent with better support >from the looks of things" Regarding my previous post... don't get me wrong, I mostly use Bob's emulators, especially since I'm doing my own emulator work using his code as a base... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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