This is kind of off topic, but Microsoft didn't "cut off" PowerPC... IBM
did. Windows NT was discontinued for the PPC after IBM announced they were
dropping their PPC machines. By that time, nobody besides IBM was, or is,
making PREP (PowerPC Reference Platform) compatible boxes. PPC NT was
discontinued simply because there were no machines to run it.
Apple chose to make their PowerMacs proprietary instead of PREP compliant
(and that's a Motorola/industry standard that has nothing to do with
Microsoft, BTW).
Kai
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From: Hotze [mailto:photze@batelco.com.bh]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 9:12 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: Windows 1.x platforms...
>I like to bash Microsoft as much as the next guy, but their CPU support on
>Windows CE is pretty good: x86, MIPS, Hitachi, PPC, and ARM, at least.
x86??? That would make a REALLY COOL sub-$500 PC. PPC??? So MS didn't
COMPLETELY cut it off.... I guess that if Intel (or anyone else) wanted,
they could make a 386/486 (AMD's ElanSC400 comes to mind) processor
based-WindowsCE system, requireing less effort to port to CE.
Tim D. Hotze
I only managed to go there for 50min. and only found out about a
west end when I left. It was cheaper than last time though. I bought
nothing. THe things I saw that were of interest, however:
A Xerox machine that looked like a PC clone, but the monitor plugged
into the system unit with a wide ribbon-like cable, very crude-
looking. What was this?
Some sick variations on the concept of a laptop, mostly from compaq.
I don't know why the docks outnumbered the laptops by such an extent.
A strange IBM box. Looked like a modem, but about two times bigger
than the reqular modems. Had a much more complex display, but had some
similarities. Had a model # in the 7thousands. Had several serial-
like connectors. Ideas?
Also, what do you people think of IIgs?
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anybody have IBM PC DOS 1.00? or know of where I may d/l it from the net
somewhere??
<>I like to bash Microsoft as much as the next guy, but their CPU support
<>Windows CE is pretty good: x86, MIPS, Hitachi, PPC, and ARM, at least.
<
<
<x86??? That would make a REALLY COOL sub-$500 PC. PPC??? So MS didn't
<COMPLETELY cut it off.... I guess that if Intel (or anyone else) wanted,
<they could make a 386/486 (AMD's ElanSC400 comes to mind) processor
<based-WindowsCE system, requireing less effort to port to CE.
SC400 is PC compatable at the 486 level, all you'd need is a bios. Then
youd have to lay out a 4 layer or better yet a six layer PWB, integrate
ram, and add all the other goodies that are not on the CPU. Working with
the SC400 is NOT a trivial hobbiest CPU, most would be stopped by the
package alone.
Also MS never stopped supporting x86, everything they sell runs on 386 or
higher (though it may be slow as mud). W3.1 still runs on 286s.
Allison
I have a copy of it for a VAX mate
>
>OK... I know that Windows 1.x/2.x was horibbly unsuccessful... but I
>remember reading about some platforms that Windows was ported to that
seemed
>pretty strange... (IE non-x86).
> Anyone???
>
>Tim D. Hotze
>
>
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Hello, all:
I now have some time to work on my N* system. Does anyone have info on
the Vector Graphics ZCB processor board. 64k RAM board, and the PROM board
that they can copy/e-mail me?
Also, which motherboard serial port is used for the console, left or
right? This may sound silly, but how does the processor board know which is
the console port?
Again, thanks.
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On Tue, 19 May 1998 14:42:09 +1000, "Desie Hay" <desieh(a)southcom.com.au>
wrote:
>>anybody have IBM PC DOS 1.00? or know of where I may d/l it from the net
>>somewhere??
A quick look downstairs shows that I have a complete copy of DOS 1.1.
According to "Upgrading and Repairing PCs 4th Ed.", PC-DOS was versioned as
follows:
<------------------------- File
Sizes ------------------------------>
Ver. File Dates Command.ComIBMBIO.COMIBMDOS.COM
=== ======== ============ =========== ===========
1.0 8/4/81 3231 bytes 1920 bytes
6400 bytes
1.1 5/7/82 4959 bytes 1920 bytes
6400 bytes
According to other charts, there were no differences in the available
internal and external commands, so I don't readily understand the difference
in the command interpreter file sizes (patches??)
I'm sure that I can find some way to get you the 1.1 diskette.
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In a message dated 98-05-14 08:25:05 EDT, you write:
<< The //gs and Macs do, maybe the later //c or //c+ >>
the //c does not have the mini din connector so i guess its probably on the gs
and c+ models do. i have an aftermarket 800k mac drive that either has motor
eject and it also has a pushbutton eject also. i have an old apple magazine
>from years ago that has a compatibility matrix for all the apples and drives.
if anyone wants more info, i can find the magazine.
david
