At 02:33 PM 5/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>It would be fun and almost educational to outsiders to have a
>series of slides showing the evolution of the common Intel chipset,
>or memory chips.
Fry's Electronics (in Sunnyvale? -- Off Lawrence Expy) has a display with a
topless 4004 and a topless Pentium (of some sort). Quite a difference
indeed. (btw, this is the same one that has the CHAC Apple 1 and some
other items from Perham on display).
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At 06:24 AM 5/15/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Uh-huh. It's time to move out of my apartment. Is the HP 3000 any
>good (in terms of how interesting it is)?
Is it any good? Wash your mouth out with soap! It is the best
minicomputer out there on the market, now or ever before. Don't let all
these east coast dec-heads fill your mind with nonsense... HP's will be
out there chugging along happily, long after the last DEC is dead and
buried. 8^)
Lessee... Some links for the HP3000... <http://www.3k.com/> is where I'd
go for shareware. <http://www.robelle.com/> makes the best editor out
there. <http://www.adager.com/> -- Alfredo Rego used to have a Series 1 up
and running. I'm sure there are more... Frank, you listening?
uh-oh, better go hide behind a pile of GRiD's... 8^)
P.S., my first computer (well, not *mine* exactly) was a PDP-11/70 running
RSTS/E (iirc). Damn fine machine, too.
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When did Intel (if ever) discontinue the 4000 series???
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 1:43 AM
Subject: RE: Intel 4004 architecture
>what was the difference between the 4004 and the 4040? Presumably the
><4040 was faster / more flexible, but was it a completely different
><architecture?
>
>Faster, larger register set and stack, increased instruction set fully
>compatable with 4004.
>
>Allison
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Huw Davies <H.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, 18 May 1998 11:58
Subject: Re: [Rare systems]
>At 01:14 PM 17-05-98 -0500, Doug Yowza wrote:
>
>>Who ported UNIX to the Lisa? It wasn't Apple, was it? BTW, anybody know
>>which was the first UNIX port to a non-DEC machine?
>
>Probably the port done at Woollongong University to the Interdata x/32
>where x is some number I can't remember....
>
> Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au
> Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479
>1999
> La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the
> Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"
>
email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au
desieh(a)bigfoot.com
museum_curator(a)hotmail.com
Apple Lisa Web Page:
http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm
I dont think anybody ported unix to the Lisa...well it wasnt a commerical
thing....
im not sure on this but if someone knows for sure ill like to hear from them
check out my Lisa web page......
Hello all,
"Computer Hobbyist" was a newsletter written in 1975-1976 by Hal Chamberlin
and others. Each issue was about 10 pages of small print. It had articles
like "Add a hardware stack to your 8008" which also appeared later in an
early BYTE magazine. I still have issues 5 to 10, I guess the last one. Does
anyone have access to issues 1 to 4 and would be
willing to copy them for me?
-Dave
You're right. But I say we're going to see a leaner, greener Microsoft. No
longer driven by it's NEED to have every piece of software for Windows only,
it will have ports of Word, Interent Explorer and other software for UN*X.
It's already started, with Internet Explorer for Solaris, and Netshow for
Linux. Internet Explorer is an ingenious program, and is very highly
customizable, which I like. Word is a pretty good word processor, when you
get down to it. But first, MS must get over it's neglect of it's s greatest
asset: It's customers. End-users, resellers, and other vendors.
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 9:19 PM
Subject: Historic Microsoft anti-trust happenings
>
>Hey, this whole deal with Microsoft and the government anti-trust lawsuit
>is pretty historic. Unless Microsoft all of a sudden decides to come back
>to the table (I think at this point the egos have bloated out so far that
>they are irreversibly colliding with one another) then it will be very
>interesting to see what comes of this. Ten years from now we'll be
>looking back, much like we did when they killed Ma Bell, and for better or
>worse, lamenting on the days when Microsoft was king.
>
>I think it went from interesting side note to full-blown event when
>Microsoft said "screw it" and decided to go ahead and ship Win98. That
>was a decidedly brash decision. It will be very fun to watch this unfold
>over the next few weeks.
>
>Take notes, all you amateur computer historians. This is the kind of
>stuff people always refer back to when discussing the politics of business
>and the forces that change industry.
>
>Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
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>Ever onward.
>
> September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2
> See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
> [Last web page update: 05/11/98]
>
Just purchased a Xerox MemoryWriter 620. Anybody know how to work this
thing? I can get spaces, returns, and tabs to work, but when I try to
type any characters it just makes a grinding noise and beeps (regardless
of whether its set to printer or memory). Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tom Owad
<> Does anyone know anything about a TMS4060 RAM? Is it static or
<dynamic? I
<
<>From the TI 'Memory and Microprocessors Databook' 1976 :
<
<TMS4060 4096 bit Dynamic Random Access Memory.
<
<It's 4096 * 1bit, DRAM, either 300ns (plain), 250ns (-1) or 200ns (-2)
<access
<time.
<
<That part sounds familiar, either TI or MOSTEK was the second source?
<Wasn't it the DRAM used on the infamous MITS 4KB DRAM S-100 memory card?
<The one that never worked because they used a one-shot for the RAS-CAS
<timing. That was one collector item that should be put in a landfill.
< Jack peacock
It was used on the MITs 88-4mcd and S4k rams alone with I2107 or upd411.
The part didn't need ras/, cas/ as it was not muxed address. Your
confusing it with the 16pin muxed parts used in the TRS80.
Need some 4060s?
Allison
At 03:03 PM 17-05-98 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
>> Really? I could've sworn that the operator's console on several
>> IBM machines was a modified Selectric.
>
>2740 and 2741 for the S/360s (found in *IBMs 360 and Early 370 Systems*, a
>must for every bookshelf, if you can find it).
Ah, the good old 2741. We had one here at La Trobe which had an 8080 based
interface so that it could talk (current loop?) to our DECsystem-10 at
134.7 baud. I understand the 134.7 baud rate is the fastest speed that you
can drive the Selectric mechanism before it flies apart :-)
Did my honors thesis on this back in 1977 using a typesetting program known
as Cicero running on the -10 written at ARL (Aeronautical Research Labs, in
Melbourne Australia). Used it again for version 1 of my M.Sc - it could do
golf ball changes to allow the pages of mathematical formulae to be
printed. From memory, a typical page took 10 minutes to print due to the
time wasted in golf ball changes. I keep trying to remember this when I
complain that the Xerox printer I now use prints about 10 double sided
pages a minute...
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au
Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479
1999
La Trobe University | "If God had wanted soccer played in the
Melbourne Australia 3083 | air, the sky would be painted green"
I recently obtained a Kaypro 2 from my great aunt, but it doesn't have
any floppies for booting.
It's also missing the cable to connect the keyboard to the main unit.
1. Can I just use a straight-through RJ11, 4 conductor wire for the
keyboard? It looks like this is
the case. (Same cable used for phones).
2. Does anyone have the images for the boot disk(s) or know where to
get them? I can rawrite them
to a SSDD disk once I have them.
3. A lot of the information on the OAK CP/M archive is in a .lbr or
.tzt format. Is there an application for
DOS or Unix to read these, and where would it be found?
Thanks for any help. I plan to use the Kaypro as a terminal via the
VT100 emulator. I'm reasonably
familiar (albeit, quite rusty) with CP/M.
-Nate
nlawson(a)scient.com
