> Windows 1.x-2.x were Intel and 100% compatible only (including AMD 286 since
> it was manufactured under license by Intel), and ran without problems on the
> NEC V20 (8088 clone). Bear in mind that there wasn't really any secondary
> CPU market at that time.
Back in the Windows 1 timeframe, IBM had not yet taken over the universe.
Some non-clones (such as the DEC Rainbow) ran Windows; basically DEC
wrote or contracted for the device drivers necessary to make it work.
I don't recall whether Windows 2.x ran on the 'bow; I didn't have access
to one during that timeframe.
Hotze wrote:
>
> OK... I know that Windows 1.x/2.x was horibbly unsuccessful... but I
> remember reading about some platforms that Windows was ported to that
seemed
> pretty strange... (IE non-x86).
> Anyone???
This is probably a dim memory of the Rainbow port. The Rainbow had both an
8088 and a Z80 (when running MS-DOS, the Z80 was used only for floppy and
(IIRC) keyboard I/O).
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
Windows 1.x-2.x were Intel and 100% compatible only (including AMD 286 since
it was manufactured under license by Intel), and ran without problems on the
NEC V20 (8088 clone). Bear in mind that there wasn't really any secondary
CPU market at that time.
Windows 3.x was also supported on IBM Blue Lightning and AMD processors.
Windows 95 logo program lists the following chipsets:
- AMD Enhanced Am486
- AMD Am5x86
- AMD K5
- AMD K6
- Centaur IDT-C6
- Cyrix 486DRx2
- Cyrix 5x86
- Cyrix 6x86 & 6x86MX
- IBM 6x86 & 6x86MX
- NexGen NX586
- SGS-Thomson ST486
- SGS-Thomson 6x86
- Texas Instruments TI486DX2 & DX4
Windows NT 3.51 supported Intel, MIPS, Alpha, and PowerPC.
Windows NT 4.0 supports Intel and Alpha.
Windows CE 2.0 supports the following chipsets:
- AMD
- ARM
- Digital
- Hitachi
- MIPS
- Motorola
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Ward Donald Griffiths III [mailto:gram@cnct.com]
Sent: Monday, May 18, 1998 9:18 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: Windows 1.x platforms...
Hotze wrote:
>
> OK... I know that Windows 1.x/2.x was horibbly unsuccessful... but I
> remember reading about some platforms that Windows was ported to that
seemed
> pretty strange... (IE non-x86).
> Anyone???
Nope, nein, none. While (16-bit and under) Windows can be used with
other processors _now_ courtesy of WABI, WINE and other independent
projects, only NT has ever been officially supported by Microsoft on
any non-Intel (or "clone" -- though MS's support is questionable in
that case) CPU. And support for NT on non-Intel processors has been
dropping and is not promised for the future. (Then again, support for
any Microsoft product can't be counted upon a year after release or
release of the the next version, whichever comes earlier).
--
Ward Griffiths
They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_
<> grabbed the boards hoping that these chips were pin-compatible with th
<> old 2102L or RCA1822 or MOS 6550 256x4 SRAMs.
<
<Alas not. Not even the same type or capacity :-(
I do have a bunch of:
2101 256x4 22 pin static nmos
5101 256x4 22pin static cmos
2111 256x4
2112 256x4
6508 1kx1 cmos static
2102 1kx1 16pin static
2114 1kx4 20 pin
6514 1kx4 20 pin
4060 4kx1 22pin dynamic
upd411 4kx1 semistatic 85ns 22pin
4104 4kx1 static
d414 4kx1 dynamic ras/ cas/ 16pin
2167 16kx1 70ns 18 pin
4116 16kx1 16 pin dynamic
And a few other oddballs. You never know when you need a ram... ;)
Allison
OK... I know that Windows 1.x/2.x was horibbly unsuccessful... but I
remember reading about some platforms that Windows was ported to that seemed
pretty strange... (IE non-x86).
Anyone???
Tim D. Hotze
<When did Intel (if ever) discontinue the 4000 series???
< Ciao,
The 4004 hit the endangerred species list in 76, with not recommended for
new designs. I think last buy production was in 79.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 19 May 1998 12:56
Subject: Finds and questions
>This weekend (despite iminent death due to a stomach virus) I managed to
>add a few interesting things to my collection:
>
>Toshiba T1000
>HP 110
>GRiD GRiDCase 2
>GRiD GridCase 1520
>Grid GridCase 1535
>Grid Battery (spare)
>Grid P/S (spare, replaces battery)
>Two external Grid Disk Drives
>
>Now for the questions.
>
>The GridCase 2 seems to have an internal 10MB hard drive (gotta be a 3.5"),
>but it also has a DB25 sticking out the side where the HD is. Has anyone
>else seen this? Is it a GRiD option? Is the DB25 for an external floppy,
>since the HD seems to be where the floppy should be? The HD makes some
>rather unhappy noises, though it seems to work fine; anyone have any
>suggestions for the best way to get the data/OS off the hard drive in case
>of failure? (Just copy to floppies?) It comes up in something called
>(iirc) InteGRiD; anyone know anything about this?
>
>Haddock claims the T1100 was Toshiba's first laptop; just by looking at the
>numbers, one would think the T1000 would have come first. According to
>Toshiba's spec files, both machines ran Toshiba MS-DOS 2.11, had 512K RAM
>(but the T1000 could go up to 1.2MB), both had a 4.77mhz 80c88, etc. So,
>anyone know for sure what came first?
>
>I guess that's it for now. Of course, if anyone has any further info,
>anecdotes, or specs on any of these machines...
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
>
>Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
>roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
>Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
>San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
>
email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au
desieh(a)bigfoot.com
museum_curator(a)hotmail.com
Apple Lisa Web Page:
http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm
Im 99.999% sure the T1000 was first...............
when i purchased mine around 10 years ago im almost sure that it was the
only one they where offering that
was IBM compat
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 19 May 1998 5:30
Subject: Re: North Star Horizon [Rare systems]
>At 11:25 AM 5/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 May 1998, Desie Hay wrote:
>>
>>> this is getting abit of track here but nobody seems to mind:
>>> well im in australia and ive got some mechines that i bet you guys have
>>> never heard of:
>>>
>>> Dick Smith System 80
>>> (TRS-80 model 1 clone)
>
> Well if you like that kind of stuff, there's a LNW 80 for sale in a
>surplus store here (Skycraft, in Orlando, Florida) for $25. It's another
>TRS clone but it's supposed to have the interfaces and extra memory
>built-in. Comes complete with a couple of manuals. I know very little
>about the TRS stuff and nothing about this clone so if you have questions
>post them to the list and see if someone else can answer them.
>
> Joe
>
>
>>
>>Sure we've heard of this. You Aussie blokes have been talking about the
>>Dick Smith systems for a while now.
>>
>>> UNIVAC
>>> (CPM box, looks like a terminal)
>>
>>Believe it or not I have heard of this. I think some other feller from
>>down under mentioned it at some point.
>>
>>> OSI C4P
>>> (looks like a SOL termianl computer, dont know anything else about it?
>>> anybody else know anything about it??)
>>
>>Ohio Scientific Challengers are no secret.
>>
>>Sam Alternate e-mail:
>dastar(a)siconic.com
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>----
>>Ever onward.
>>
>> September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2
>> See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
>> [Last web page update: 05/11/98]
>>
>>
>
Well this UNIVAC I have, I acutally got it imported or what that be
exported:>
>from the states.............
This weekend (despite iminent death due to a stomach virus) I managed to
add a few interesting things to my collection:
Toshiba T1000
HP 110
GRiD GRiDCase 2
GRiD GridCase 1520
Grid GridCase 1535
Grid Battery (spare)
Grid P/S (spare, replaces battery)
Two external Grid Disk Drives
Now for the questions.
The GridCase 2 seems to have an internal 10MB hard drive (gotta be a 3.5"),
but it also has a DB25 sticking out the side where the HD is. Has anyone
else seen this? Is it a GRiD option? Is the DB25 for an external floppy,
since the HD seems to be where the floppy should be? The HD makes some
rather unhappy noises, though it seems to work fine; anyone have any
suggestions for the best way to get the data/OS off the hard drive in case
of failure? (Just copy to floppies?) It comes up in something called
(iirc) InteGRiD; anyone know anything about this?
Haddock claims the T1100 was Toshiba's first laptop; just by looking at the
numbers, one would think the T1000 would have come first. According to
Toshiba's spec files, both machines ran Toshiba MS-DOS 2.11, had 512K RAM
(but the T1000 could go up to 1.2MB), both had a 4.77mhz 80c88, etc. So,
anyone know for sure what came first?
I guess that's it for now. Of course, if anyone has any further info,
anecdotes, or specs on any of these machines...
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
I went to the big (650 booths) antique show at the Cow Palace this weekend
and saw exactly zero (0) computers. (Other than laptops and such in use by
dealers.) Dunno how long it will be, though, before they start to show up.
Did overhear one dealer tell another "ebay is great -- you can go on there
and sell stuff for *way* more than it's worth." 8^)
P.S., Did manage to find 6 or 7 Donald Ducks that Rachel didn't have, and
got me a couple of Land Rovers too.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
At 03:25 PM 5/17/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Some sick variations on the concept of a laptop, mostly from compaq.
>I don't know why the docks outnumbered the laptops by such an extent.
Because docking stations sit on desks, nice and safe beneath their
monitors, while laptops go out to play with the Samsonite Gorilla,
automobile firewalls, toddlers, etc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
