I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take one too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* huge. Regards Rob

Well I suppose the important thing is that they have been spoken for. Hopefully I will get to see Dave's in action.

Just found the specs. "Typical" installed weight 75kg, max 100kg. Minus power supplies and drives I think two fairly strong people could lift into a car as long as the tailgate is fairly low. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Martin Reilly via cctalk Sent: 22 July 2020 15:49 To: antonio at acarlini.com; 'Antonio Carlini' <a.carlini at ntlworld.com>; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available I'd be very interested in one of these. Depending where in Oxfordshire I'm probably within 90 minutes drive. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Antonio Carlini via cctalk Sent: 21 July 2020 20:58 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: AlphaServer 2100s available I have three AlphaServer 2100 systems in storage in the UK (Oxfordshire). The storage, however, is due to be demolished (soon, but no fixed date). I won't have room to store these three systems, so if anyone would be interested in offering them a home, then please get in touch! I can probably get some pictures in the next day or two. These systems were SMP Alphas and could sport as many as 4 CPUs. I'm not sure of the configuration of these systems but I can probably find that out soon. They have not been run since ~2003 so they may be in need of some TLC. OTOH they are not rusted to death so you have a chance of getting them back to life. Just so you know what you might be dealing with these systems are about: 700mm H x 430mm W x 810mm L. I can't find the weight in any of my references right now but they are very heavy. Three people can move them up a slight slope with some effort but you would not successfully lift it into a car (assuming that it would fit). I'm planning to dismantle them to move them (i.e. remove PSU/PSUs etc. until they are light enough to move). A tail-lift would probably be the sane way to go (and is, indeed, how they got to their current location. I'm hoping that someone can step forward and offer one or more of these machines a new home. Please contact me off-list (once you're sure you understand what you are getting into :-)). Antonio -- Antonio Carlini antonio at acarlini.com

That reminds me of the time I was transporting a Dodge box (Alpha 4100) between customer sites in a London borough. There were 3 machines, a pair of 4100s and a 2100. 3 of us got the 2100 and a 4100 into the van we had for this task but the 3rd machine wouldn?t fit. No problem, I have a big estate car (station wagon) so could put it in the back of that. I strapped it in with occy straps (the elasticated type) and put the brakes on the front wheels but the thing was so heavy that when the car moved forwards the machine didn?t and burst through the back window. A small girl out on the street said ?look Mum, that man?s broken his window!? Fun times. At the other end we got out the Henry Hoover to suck up the glass and switched on, machine worked fine and didn?t hiccup until it was decommissioned a few years later. -- Adrian Graham Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection? t: @binarydinosaurs f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Not DEC-related, but I once had an IBM 1800 shipped from where we'd purchased it to a storage locker in a different city, where I lived. All was fine until it was unloaded, and the wheels sank into the pavement. [That summer was a bit hotter than normal...] From: "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> To: "Adrian Graham" <binarydinosaurs at gmail.com>, "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:56:56 AM Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available Those straps are nice for holding packages weighing up to maybe 10 pounds or so. Something non-stretchy, like cargo webbing ratchet straps, well-tied ropes, or in extreme cases chains, are for heavy stuff. I had some fun years ago moving a lathe, in pieces the heaviest of which was around 800 pounds. That's a quick course in how to secure stuff well. Your story reminds me of the -- perhaps apocryphal -- story of the RP04 (RP03?) that was being air-freighted out of Boston airport. It wasn't correctly tied down, so when the takeoff roll started, it stayed put. Same sort of consequence as yours except that it left out the back of the airplane, through the fuselage, bouncing off the runway. The story says that it was taken back to Maynard, uncrated, set up with a couple of bricks underneath one of the corners that was pushed in 6 inches or so, and tested. It still worked. I guess DEC built sturdy, and from your experience they kept doing that for a long time. paul