13 Oct
2008
13 Oct
'08
4:05 p.m.
Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
120314777595
transputer maybe? I hope the bidder isn't really going
to reclaim the obvious "pounds" of gold on it.
13 Oct
13 Oct
4:11 p.m.
In article <LPEHKKCIACOOJPMHFCNLEEPFCMAA.wh.sudbrink at verizon.net>,
"Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> writes:
Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
[ebay item #] 120314777595
transputer maybe?
I've never seen any transputer packaging that looks like that.
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4:22 p.m.
Richard wrote:
"Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at
verizon.net> writes:
That was just a wild-ass guess on my part. Very unusual, heat
sinked chips in a 6 x 7 grid, custom wired on the back. I just
noticed the Fairchild glyph on the tops of the heat sinks. In
the photos where you can read the numbers on the chips, each one
has a different set of numbers.
Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
[ebay item #] 120314777595
transputer maybe?
I've never seen any transputer packaging that looks like that. 
4:26 p.m.
Bill Sudbrink wrote:
Richard wrote:
I does look like an IBM package. If it does contain Fairchild devices
on it, it would still be feasible, since IBM used to buy a lot of parts
"Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at
verizon.net> writes:
That was just a wild-ass guess on my part. Very unusual, heat
sinked chips in a 6 x 7 grid, custom wired on the back. I just
noticed the Fairchild glyph on the tops of the heat sinks. In
the photos where you can read the numbers on the chips, each one
has a different set of numbers. Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
[ebay item #] 120314777595
transputer maybe?
I've never seen any transputer packaging that looks like
that. from Fairchild.
Peace... Sridhar
4:23 p.m.
> Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
>
> [ebay item #] 120314777595
>
> transputer maybe?
Not a transputer. I think the date codes, if they are that, indicate
the chips were made in 1978 (7840, 7846, 7847...)
The mounting structure looks like IBM Mainframe to me.
Paxton
--
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
4:28 p.m.
Paxton Hoag wrote:
S/370/158 maybe?
Peace... Sridhar
> Anybody
recognize the board in this lot:
>
> [ebay item #] 120314777595
>
> transputer maybe?
Not a transputer. I think the date codes, if they are that, indicate
the chips were made in 1978 (7840, 7846, 7847...)
The mounting structure looks like IBM Mainframe to me. 
5:07 p.m.
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "scrap" auction...
To: "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:28 PM
Paxton Hoag wrote:
S/370/158 maybe?
Peace... Sridhar
Amdhal? Looks like they might be Fujitsu chips.
Bob
> Anybody
recognize the board in this lot:
>
> [ebay item #] 120314777595
>
> transputer maybe?
Not a transputer. I think the date codes, if they are that, indicate
the chips were made in 1978 (7840, 7846, 7847...)
The mounting structure looks like IBM Mainframe to me. 
4:15 p.m.
Some sort of IBM mainframe board? The 78nn numbers are possible date codes, 1978 is a
plausible year for chip packaging like that.
paul
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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:05 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: "scrap" auction...
Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
120314777595
transputer maybe? I hope the bidder isn't really going
to reclaim the obvious "pounds" of gold on it.
4:18 p.m.
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:35:07 am Bill Sudbrink wrote:
Anybody recognize the board in this lot:
120314777595
transputer maybe? I hope the bidder isn't really going
to reclaim the obvious "pounds" of gold on it.
The logo on top of each post looks like the Fairchild logo. The numbers
suggest a date of 1976, but it looks *very* high tech for something of that
vintage.
Alexis.
6:38 p.m.
The logo on top of each post looks like the Fairchild
logo.
Looks more like the Fujitsu logo. Also, the chip part numbers are of the form
"MB....", which is a Fujitsu format.
Fujitsu was into producing memory chips in that era I believe. They also
produced entire 370 plug-compatible mainframes didn't they?
6:06 p.m.
Brent Hilpert wrote:
More like they financed Amdahl.
When Gene Amdahl left IBM to start Amdahl Corp, he started up with
capital from Fujitsu. Eventually, Fujitsu bought the remaining
outstanding shares of Amdahl, which has operated as a subsidiary of
Fujitsu since 1997.
Peace... Sridhar
The logo on
top of each post looks like the Fairchild logo.
Looks more like the Fujitsu logo. Also, the chip part numbers are of the form
"MB....", which is a Fujitsu format.
Fujitsu was into producing memory chips in that era I believe. They also
produced entire 370 plug-compatible mainframes didn't they? 
8:54 p.m.
On 13 Oct 2008 at 18:06, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
When Gene Amdahl left IBM to start Amdahl Corp, he
started up with
capital from Fujitsu. Eventually, Fujitsu bought the remaining
outstanding shares of Amdahl, which has operated as a subsidiary of
Fujitsu since 1997.
Whatever happened to Gene's "next" venture--what was it, "Waferscale
Technology" or some such thing. I recall that he received what was
then an almost unheard-of first-round VC financing--something like 27
million.
Cheers,
Chuck
14 Oct
14 Oct
4 a.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
It was called Trilogy. More like $200 million.
Unfortunately, it imploded spectacularly.
Peace... Sridhar
When Gene
Amdahl left IBM to start Amdahl Corp, he started up with
capital from Fujitsu. Eventually, Fujitsu bought the remaining
outstanding shares of Amdahl, which has operated as a subsidiary of
Fujitsu since 1997.
Whatever happened to Gene's "next" venture--what was it, "Waferscale
Technology" or some such thing. I recall that he received what was
then an almost unheard-of first-round VC financing--something like 27
million. 
12:42 p.m.
On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Waferscale was his company? I didn't know that. I have quite a
few of their chips. I think (but am not certain) that they got
swallowed up by STMicro.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
When Gene
Amdahl left IBM to start Amdahl Corp, he started up with
capital from Fujitsu. Eventually, Fujitsu bought the remaining
outstanding shares of Amdahl, which has operated as a subsidiary of
Fujitsu since 1997.
Whatever happened to Gene's "next" venture--what was it, "Waferscale
Technology" or some such thing. I recall that he received what was
then an almost unheard-of first-round VC financing--something like 27
million.
1:14 p.m.
On 14 Oct 2008 at 12:42, Dave McGuire wrote:
Waferscale was his company? I didn't know
that. I have quite a
few of their chips. I think (but am not certain) that they got
swallowed up by STMicro.
No, it was Trilogy that I was thinking of. Trilogy was among the
first to try to build a system-on-a-wafer, burning through a huge
amount of capital, eventually abandoning the effort and changing
focus to build VAX-compatible systems by taking the remaining VC and
merging with Elxsi. A lesser-known personality would have been
forced to shut down by the venture partners before being allowed to
change direction so drastically.
Amdahl is the perfect argument for the notion of success in a startup
having a very large component of luck involved--and an argument
against the notion of a "Midas touch" in innovators.
Does anyone have one of the Elxsi systems in their collection?
Cheers,
Chuck
13 Oct
13 Oct
9:02 p.m.
That fits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl -- it talks about ECL ASICs with cooling
fins on the package.
paul
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Sridhar Ayengar
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:06 PM
To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: "scrap" auction...
Brent Hilpert wrote:
More like they financed Amdahl.
When Gene Amdahl left IBM to start Amdahl Corp, he started up with
capital from Fujitsu. Eventually, Fujitsu bought the remaining
outstanding shares of Amdahl, which has operated as a subsidiary of
Fujitsu since 1997.
Peace... Sridhar
The logo on
top of each post looks like the Fairchild logo.
Looks more like the Fujitsu logo. Also, the chip part numbers are of the form
"MB....", which is a Fujitsu format.
Fujitsu was into producing memory chips in that era I believe. They also
produced entire 370 plug-compatible mainframes didn't they?
14 Oct
14 Oct
1:21 a.m.
Well it closed at $79.90. I checked the feedback of the person who
bought it and I believe they are a scrapper so it is on the way to
melt.
Paxton
--
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
8:37 a.m.
Paxton Hoag wrote:
Well it closed at $79.90. I checked the feedback of
the person who
bought it and I believe they are a scrapper so it is on the way to
melt.
Sad. I remember talking to an ex-Amdahl chap a year or two ago who said that
some of their earlier systems were works of art inside - I believe he might
still have some boards which are currently being held for sentimental reasons
(but which shouldn't therefore end up in the hands of gold scrappers). I'm not
sure if anyone anywhere has a complete system, though...
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