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by cgregory＠lrbcg.com

Load "*",8,1 loads the first program found on the disk; I'm not sure what load "$" does, if anything. To change the device number in a 1541 is not difficult, but it is a PITA because you must open the drive and cut through one or more connections. It is also semi-permanent in that you need to solder the connection back to reverse the procedure. There is a way to configure device numbers on a two drive system by way of a command, but that method escapes me at the moment. You should get the error messages immediately. I pulled out a Commodore and drive to try to recreate your problem, but could not (always got an error message of one kind or another). The only thing I could suggest is that one of the two serial ports on the drive is flakey. Either should work equally as well, but try the other one just in case. Then maybe there is something wrong with the C64 itself or its serial port. I'm just throwing out guesses now. Cliff Gregory cgregory(a)lrbcg.com -----Original Message----- From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> To: Cgregory <Cgregory> Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 11:38 AM Subject: Re: C-64c probs >>Assuming the drive's device number has not been changed from eight, then the >>correct command is LOAD "*", 8, 1 > >What's the differenct between "$" and "*"? I've seen both used in this >context. How does one change a device number? I'm not Commodore expert. The >only other Commodore product I've had is a C-16, and that seems like ages ago. > >>changed to 9, 10, or 11, then you will get a "device not found" error. Try >>the other numbers in place of 8 until you find the correct one. If the >>cable is bad or not connected properly, you should get a "device not >>present" error. > >I'll give it a try. How long should I wait for a device not present >message? It's just sitting there looking for the floppy. I've got both the >C-64 manual and the 1541 manual, but can't see anything that'll help me. > >>PS: I've got all kinds of 1541's if you really want/need one. > >I'd like to get a second drive if this one is good, or two drives if this >one is bad, but I think the problem is just me sitting in front of it, and >not the drive. > > >-John Higginbotham- >-limbo.netpath.net- >

28 years, 2 months

C-64c probs

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 02:16 AM 2/1/98 +0930, you wrote: >"$" loads the file directory from the disk, and you use "list" to see >what files are on it. "*" loads the first program on the disk, and I >assume the ,1 is to either load an assembly program, or to automatically >run the file once loaded. The ,8 is the device number - thus try, say, >,9. :) > >At least this is as far as my memory goes. I'll try it next time I get the system out to play with it. We've got an 19 month old running around now, and something like the Commodore with it's multiple cables and pieces is a prime target for her. -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

Future Services & Events from the Vintage Technology Cooperative

by francois.auradon＠worldnet.att.net

Just one thing to say: <big> <bigger> <bigest> <bigger than that> Thank you. </big> </bigger> <bigest> </bigger than that> -----Original Message----- From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 8:41 PM Subject: Future Services & Events from the Vintage Technology Cooperative > >I just thought I'd give yous guys a sneak peek of some of the things I am >working on... [Major snip] >ALL THIS AND SO MUCH MORE! A VERITABLE NERD EXTRAVAGANZA TO SATISFY YOUR >VINTAGE COMPUTER HUNGER! > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass > > Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! >

28 years, 2 months

C-64c probs

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 10:02 AM 2/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >Assuming the drive's device number has not been changed from eight, then the >correct command is LOAD "*", 8, 1 What's the differenct between "$" and "*"? I've seen both used in this context. How does one change a device number? I'm not Commodore expert. The only other Commodore product I've had is a C-16, and that seems like ages ago. >changed to 9, 10, or 11, then you will get a "device not found" error. Try >the other numbers in place of 8 until you find the correct one. If the >cable is bad or not connected properly, you should get a "device not >present" error. I'll give it a try. How long should I wait for a device not present message? It's just sitting there looking for the floppy. I've got both the C-64 manual and the 1541 manual, but can't see anything that'll help me. >PS: I've got all kinds of 1541's if you really want/need one. I'd like to get a second drive if this one is good, or two drives if this one is bad, but I think the problem is just me sitting in front of it, and not the drive. -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

C-64c probs

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 09:31 AM 2/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >I have my indos not by hand but I nelieve you must type > >type LOAD "$",8,1 Manual says ,8 but I also tried ,8,1 and nothing happened -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

C-64c probs

by cgregory＠lrbcg.com

John, Assuming the drive's device number has not been changed from eight, then the correct command is LOAD "*", 8, 1 The drive should light up and start spinning. If it is misaligned, you probably will get a "file not found" error. If the device number has been changed to 9, 10, or 11, then you will get a "device not found" error. Try the other numbers in place of 8 until you find the correct one. If the cable is bad or not connected properly, you should get a "device not present" error. I'm not sure how to advise you, if nothing happens and no error messages pop up. Cliff Gregory cgregory(a)lrbcg.com PS: I've got all kinds of 1541's if you really want/need one. -----Original Message----- From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> To: Cgregory <Cgregory> Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 2:15 AM Subject: C-64c probs > > > >I was playing around with the C-64c I picked up last month... It came with >a 1541 floppy... > >I think I have a problem: > >Turn on floppy >turn on C-64c >C-64c inits the drive (light blinks, then goes out) >insert disk >type LOAD "$",8 >nothing happens, no drive light, no response from the 64. > >What's going on here? Drive misalign? How do I realign? Bad drive? Bad cable? > >Anyone have one or two extra 1541 floppy drives they want to sell? > > >-John Higginbotham- >-limbo.netpath.net- >

28 years, 2 months

Are We Not Men? (& Women?)

by mallison＠konnections.com

The whole point is lists and newsgroups is that the majority are pertinent and one shouldn't have to sort through the impertinent. All of our email addresses are posted, if you want to have long discussions as a group there's no reason you can't do it off line... -Mike ---------- > From: Brett <danjo(a)xnet.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Are We Not Men? (& Women?) > Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 6:05 AM > > > > I personally enjoyed reading the posts. I usually pick and choose > anyway - something Sam could do as well. > > BC >

28 years, 2 months

C-64c probs

by higginbo＠netpath.net

I was playing around with the C-64c I picked up last month... It came with a 1541 floppy... I think I have a problem: Turn on floppy turn on C-64c C-64c inits the drive (light blinks, then goes out) insert disk type LOAD "$",8 nothing happens, no drive light, no response from the 64. What's going on here? Drive misalign? How do I realign? Bad drive? Bad cable? Anyone have one or two extra 1541 floppy drives they want to sell? -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

Apple ][+ OS

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I seem to recall a .3 limit in an early version of VMS that someone I spo <to who used to work for DEC recalls as well: was it as late as vms 2.0 pe <3.0 even? 4.x (memeory is fuzzy brought the loger file names. The earliest version of VMS I used was 3.4. The reason I was complianing is those long names can be horrid if you have to hand type them in and make an error with command editing not available. Allison

28 years, 2 months

Apple ][+ OS

by pvhp＠forte.com

classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Subj: Re: Apple ][+ OS Allison J Parent wrote: !<Well, a 15 character limit's not bad to me at all. Actually, I've gotte !<used to 8 with MS-DOS, which I still use when I want something DONE. ! !I'm spoiled with VMS that has had EIGHTEEN.EIGHTEEN, yes, 36 character !file and directory names. The problem is; ! !VMS_C_COMPILER_NEW.VERSION_TWENTY_ONE can be a pain to type in. ;) ! !Allison I seem to recall a .3 limit in an early version of VMS that someone I spoke to who used to work for DEC recalls as well: was it as late as vms 2.0 perhaps 3.0 even? At any rate under VMS 7.1 at least the limit has been further increased to 39.39 as this little log demonstrates (apologies to folks if this gets MIMEd beyond recognition): $ create 123456789012345678901234567890123456789.123456789012345678901234567890123456789 Hello from 39.39! ^Z Exit $ type 123456789012345678901234567890123456789.123456789012345678901234567890123456789 Hello from 39.39! $ create 1234567890123456789012345678901234567890.1234567890123456789012345678901234567890 %CREATE-E-OPENOUT, error opening 1234567890123456789012345678901234567890.1234567890123456789012345678901234567890 as output-RMS-F-FNM, error in file name Hmm - I just tried that same thing on a VAX running 5.5-2 and was able to create the 39.39 but not the 40.40 just as on the Alpha running 7.1. I am not at home now so I can't test that on the uVAX running 5.4. As for directories - the following was done on the VAX running 5.5-2: $ create/dir [.123456789012345678901234567890123456789] $ create/dir [.1234567890123456789012345678901234567890] %CREATE-E-DIRNOTCRE, [.1234567890123456789012345678901234567890] directory file not created -RMS-F-DIR, error in directory name Peter Prymmer

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