At 07:35 PM 1/28/98 GMT, you wrote:
>A friend is heavily into classic cars; he says a car depreciates
>typically until it hits a low at about 13 years, after which its'
>value rises. Computers probably do the same pattern although the time
>probably varies. The trick is to know when the machine hits bottom and
>which will go up from there. (If it climbs slowly, there's no hurry)
Not anymore. There's no way all these Pentium systems out today will ever
be worth anything, at least not in 13 years, IMHO. Maybe in about 30 years,
when most have been destroyed will they be truly worth something as an
classic.
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
Please, someone help me!
I have acquired, free of charge, a Sage Iv microcomputer circa 1983.
Specification is : 512K RAM, 12MB hard drive, 1 x 5 1/4 inch floppy
drive.
I need help with : Group A/B microswitch settings, cable to connect to
the serial port of an Amiga A600, serial comms settings, and what I am
likely to find on the Sage IV once it's up and running.
So far, it appears sane (Processor light blinks meaningfully) but
without a terminal connection, I'm completely in the dark.
I really would like to get this machine up and running because it was my
dream machine circa 1982/1983, and I lusted after one of these for
years. Unfortunately I couldn't afford the £7,000 price tag
(U.K./British prices - always worse than American prices!) so it
remained a dream - until now!
Anyone with the relevant technical expertise please e-mail me at:
d_w_edwards(a)hotmail.com.
HELP!!!!
Thank you for your time and consideration.
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< Actually, though, building a Transputer system is pretty easy. I did so
<back in 1989 (so it's not quite a classic). The time from opening the
<data book to having the machine boot was about 30 minutes!. That was
<using bare chips, not TRAMs as well.
Now the transputer is one that I never got to play with but would have
liked to.
Allison
At 21:06 28/01/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I have a Computone 4(?) port card. long 16 bit ISA bus with 4 RJ11
>ports and 2 RJ45 ports.
>Need info on real purpose and uses, jumpers and switches, thanks
I have several Computone still in use.
What I can say:
They are Multiport card used mainly to hook several tty-devices to a
xenix/unix box.
Usually these cards have an external multiport (DB25) small box connected.
In latest version I thnk they used space-saving RJ's
Are you shure they are true RJ11? (or they are DEC RJ with side ?)
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From: "HeVi@rTi" <heviarti(a)cyberhighway.net>
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Subject: wanted. PDP 8 or 11/45 /50 /65
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 12:48:20 -0800
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looking for pdp-11's in idaho. also after pdp-8's my uncle needs a
smallmainframe, and i figure an 8 or 11 will do the trick...mebbe pop a
few vt-100s on..
heviarti(a)cyberhighway.net
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"...No matter how hard we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe
an object, event, or living creature, in our own human terms. It cannot possibly
define any of them!..."
I'd like to find a copy of metal or modem MGR. anyone have copies of either?
david
In a message dated 98-01-31 15:54:59 EST, you write:
<< Some things that I would like to find are an Apple //e system, a copy of
Networks II BBS, and a copy of Nexus BBS. I'm pretty sure that along my
travels I will eventually find the Apple //e but I don't know if I have a
chance of finding either piece of software. >>
i ran version 3.0 on a 386dx40 and wasnt bad, although it took almost 10
minutes to restore an archive! i had it running on a dx2-80 with 8 meg, and
was pretty snappy. it was interesting to place the swap file on the second
hard drive, so you could hear when vm was being used. Ive experimented with
version 4.0 but setting up my nic and a pnp soundblaster was difficult.
thankfully, there are plenty of os2 advocates out there in comp.sys.os2.* that
can help out.
os2 trivia: os2 had a START command way before BILLGe thought of it!
david
In a message dated 98-01-31 10:36:27 EST, you write:
<< I ran OS/2 v. 2 on a friends system (and helped him with the memory upgrade
from 16 to 32 meg). I also ran the Rexx gopher server on version 3 (Warp)
on a system with 16 Megs of RAM. I never ran Windows 3.1 or Windows 95
on either machine so I cannot make a direct comparison (Win NT 3.51 was
running on the latter machine long enough to allow setting up the OS/2
installation). We also played around with the Voice control on a beta
release of Merlin (thanks for reminding me of the code name) but that machine
was eventually pressed into service running NT (I never saw it after that).
The advice of "you should have more than 4 MB RAM" was taken from my friend
(who is still quite the OS/2 zealot) and I thought that I had read it in the
paperback version of the OS/2 FAQ as well - but I could easily be mistaken
about that latter source. I am quite glad to hear that your performance
was so good with only 4 MB - great OS isn't it? >>
The "i" (intel) prefix is an intel copyright. It has been used, afaik
since the beginning, esp the 80x86 series, as this is the iAXP series of
microprocessor. Many took to using "x86" notation to avoid the
copyright issues of "i86"
-Mike Allison
>BTW What is Warp? Is it the OS/2 windowing system? If so, why would I
>want to use it at all, let alone on a 286? ;-)
Yes, it is. Actually, if I remember, it came out in 1994, but it could have
been early 1995, but definately PRE WINDOWS '95! You might want to use it
for several reasons: If you've got software for it. There's WordPerfect for
Warp, Netscape Navigator for Warp, amongst others. Actually, if you ask me,
Warp's more of a competitor to NT than '95, as it's definately not
consumer-oriented. It features a *nice* plug and play system. Actually,
the interface on the older Warp's looks AMAZINGLY like Windows '95, which
makes me wonder if it was copied, and who copied who.
Theoretically, IBM's designing a completely new version of OS/2 Warp,
called 'Bluebird' or something. This is a guess, but it's probably going to
be NT as well as '95 compatible, plus rock-solid stability, much better than
NT.
The reason that we're using Windows as opposed to OS/2 is (in my
opinion) because IBM did two things: With Windows 3.0 and 3.1, they waited
until AFTER the MS release, and made it Windows compatible. They had
relatively high success, but they weren't happy with it. So, with the 32
bit version, they released BEFORE Windows, but ruined all their success.
The advantage is that if you want to run Windows 3.x apps with the current
version of OS/2, you get 32 bit performance, compatiblity, and many of the
features of a "next-generation" operating system.
It's a good alternitive for people who want a Windows look and feel, but
without the "Microsoft" beofore the name.
I could be wrong on most/all of this, so please feel free to correct me.
Hope that his helps,
Tim D. Hotze
