Hi to everyone.
I'm no longer a member of the list, but some of you will remember me :))
For personal reasons, I'm currenlty offering my entire collection of
collections for sale. I have some quite interesting vintage computers -
including the beautiful Datanumerics DL-8A (a front-panel switch 8080 beast)
and a homebrew S100 system with a Signetics 2650 processor emulating 8080.
Also, rare home computers such as the Hanimex Pencil II.
I am also selling my entire collection of Soviet Calculators (some 100
units), but only as a whole collection.
I will be delighted to do photographs for any interested purchasers.
Thanks for your interest - the URL is in my signature, below.
Cheers
A
--
Andrew Davie adavie(a)taswegian.com or adavie(a)mad.scientist.com
I'm selling my vintage computers, calculators, and video games...
list at http://www.taswegian.com/TwoHeaded/forsale.html
see my award-winning Museum of Soviet Calculators
http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/soviet.html
I just aquired and IMS inc multiuser S100 system the suize of a coffe
table. To restore it I need docs/info. It appears to be a complete
system.
It has 4 Commercial Dynamics Z80 slaves {SCPU MK4cr ISS 1}
1 IMS cpu card {A644}
1 IMS 64k dynamic ram card with parity. {c00464}
1 floppy card 8" 765/8257 based, S8000 floppy control {c00401}
1 WD controller for 8" wini (IMS) {A821 2562-1}
1 IMS I/O board, 2 serial using 8250, parallel using 8255 {A631}
Anyone with docs for any of the boards I'd like to talk to them.
Allison
>> I tried swapping my M8186 (11/23) for M8192 (11/73) but it doesn't run.
>> Maybe I need to rebuild the kernel (I've got an original distribution, not
>> one of the images from PUPS), but perhaps it would work with more memory or
>> by swapping RLV11 for RLV12.
>Cpu doesn't run or doesn't run V7? The image I have only wants some 256k
>of ram out of all teh installed ram. I get the impression it was
>configured for an 11/34 or similar and that is mostly a 11/23 save for the
>11/23 mmu can go to 22 bits.
The V6 and V7 images currently available have device drivers that
were built for Unibus systems. They expect a Unibus Map to be present
for accessing memory above 256Kbytes (many of the drivers were built to
always expect a Unibus map). The "safe" thing to do on a Q-bus system
(or an emulated Q-bus system, like Supnik's emulator) is to run with 256Kbytes
or less.
(Even that isn't perfectly safe, some of the tape drivers simply refuse to
work with a Unibus map no matter how much/little memory is there.)
(And yes, I know there are Q-bus systems with Unibus maps, but I'm ignoring
those right now.)
Tim.
On Mar 5, 18:11, Allison J Parent wrote:
> I forget if V7 needed I&D space or 2.11 meaning the 11/23 was not enough.
> The 11/73 has the added I&D bits where 11/23 only has user registers and
> MMU.
BSD2.11 does need separate I&D, but V7 doesn't. If you don't have separate
I&D, ISTR you need to build it for "small machine", and it runs a bit
slower.
> Got it onto a RL02 pack. It's the supnick emulator V7 binary image for
> RL02 and it will run from RL02 IF the pack is a RL02k-DC (no defects).
> The reason for that is the image is for a theoretical perfect disk and
> it's bad block map is zero defects.
>
> The hardware is 11/73(KA11J-A), 2MB ram, DLV11-F, DLV11J, RLV21/RL02,
> RXV12/RX02, RQDX3/RD52(x2)/RX33, TQK50. It's a very stuffed BA11N box
> with a CD/CD (18 slots) backplane.
I tried swapping my M8186 (11/23) for M8192 (11/73) but it doesn't run.
Maybe I need to rebuild the kernel (I've got an original distribution, not
one of the images from PUPS), but perhaps it would work with more memory or
by swapping RLV11 for RLV12.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
While moving and sorting through the last of the books and magazines from
our old house, I found my long-lost copy of "Finite State Fantasies", a
semi-educational computer cartoon book that I bought in a Byte Shoppe about
25 years ago. It's kind of cool and funny, and I would like to scan it and
put it up on my web site for others to enjoy, but I don't want to whiz in
anyone's Cheerios in terms of copyrights. I have done some web searching,
but couldn't find any current contact information for Richard Didday (is he
still around?), Matrix Publications (whose name appears on the copyright
statement), or Dilithium Press (who, based on my searches, seems to either
have been the precursor or the successor of Matrix). Does anyone have any
information on any of these folks, so I can try to get their permission to
scan and share this strange book?
-Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com)
Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r
Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with
Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.
<Cool! I've got an 11/23 that is very close to that config (swap the RXV11
<for a pair of LPV11's and you have my config), I think I might have to see
LPV11s??? driving a LN01 or LP2x? ;) You need a RLV11 or RLV21 for a RL02
as that is what the V7 binary image is for.
Allison
On Mar 5, 13:48, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> Peter Turnbull wrote:
> >it. Present setup is 11/23, 256KW, 2 x DLV11J, RLV11 + 2 x RL02, RXV11
> >workalike, IBV11, BDV11.
> >
> >Allison, can you remind me what you did to make it work on an 11/73?
>
> Cool! I've got an 11/23 that is very close to that config (swap the
RXV11
> for a pair of LPV11's and you have my config), I think I might have to
see
> about getting it into a state where it will boot something and then see
> about getting the SCO license.
I'm pretty sure one of the binary images at PUPS is suitable for an 11/23
with RL02s. Warren has some notes on how to download an image and copy it
to a real drive.
> It would be nice to finally have a use for the system besides a rack
shelf :^)
that's exactly what one of my 11/73s was being used for when I first saw it
:-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
<> >V7 runs nice on E-11. Runs nice on my 11/73 too.
<> >
<> >Allison.
<>
<> REALLY?!?! What are the hardware requirements for V7? I thought they
<>were a lot more restrictive than that. I'm assuming that it does not
<>support MSCP disks.
No MSCP, RL02. ;) I'd need to run 2.11 to get MSCP.
<No, it doesn't, but it does run on any Q-bus machine with an MMU and
<suitable disks. I've had it running on an 11/23 for the best part of ten
I forget if V7 needed I&D space or 2.11 meaning the 11/23 was not enough.
The 11/73 has the added I&D bits where 11/23 only has user registers and
MMU.
<years, and it was installed on the same machine almost as long before I go
<it. Present setup is 11/23, 256KW, 2 x DLV11J, RLV11 + 2 x RL02, RXV11
<workalike, IBV11, BDV11.
<Allison, can you remind me what you did to make it work on an 11/73?
You and Tim Both helped get it going as I could not make at that time the
pack needed. I don't run it often as Unix is less than really interesting
to me but being an RL02 pack I can run it on a whim.
Got it onto a RL02 pack. It's the supnick emulator V7 binary image for
RL02 and it will run from RL02 IF the pack is a RL02k-DC (no defects).
The reason for that is the image is for a theoretical perfect disk and
it's bad block map is zero defects.
The hardware is 11/73(KA11J-A), 2MB ram, DLV11-F, DLV11J, RLV21/RL02,
RXV12/RX02, RQDX3/RD52(x2)/RX33, TQK50. It's a very stuffed BA11N box
with a CD/CD (18 slots) backplane.
Allison
On Mar 5, 10:56, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> >V7 runs nice on E-11. Runs nice on my 11/73 too.
> >
> >Allison.
>
> REALLY?!?! What are the hardware requirements for V7? I thought they
were
> a lot more restrictive than that. I'm assuming that it does not support
> MSCP disks.
No, it doesn't, but it does run on any Q-bus machine with an MMU and
suitable disks. I've had it running on an 11/23 for the best part of ten
years, and it was installed on the same machine almost as long before I got
it. Present setup is 11/23, 256KW, 2 x DLV11J, RLV11 + 2 x RL02, RXV11
workalike, IBV11, BDV11.
Allison, can you remind me what you did to make it work on an 11/73?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
