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by allisonp＠world.std.com

<V7 doesn't run. More precisely, it boots and starts the kernel but it <immediately panics. I can't remember what the message was; it's a long <time since I tried it. Ill boot mine and see. I have to do a boot foreign from RT-11 as apparently there is no boot on the pack. A copy of your mail as a reminder.... ;) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:19:15 GMT From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com (Pete Turnbull) X-Beware: experimental sendmail.cf 940816.SGI.8.6.9/980207.PNT Message-Id: <9803170219.ZM17332(a)indy.dunnington.york.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) "Re: V7 startup" (Mar 16, 20:44) References: <199803170144.AA16350(a)world.std.com> Reply-To: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) Subject: Re: V7 startup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: R Hi, Allison. > >>>>>< @unix <<<<<<< > > THAT'S what I was trying to remember! > > Allison If you're running V7 on real hardware, could you do me a favour once you get it running, please? The normal boot sequence for V7 is to hardware boot the drive, which get the @ prompt, then type 'boot' which runs the 'boot' program, which has a ':' prompt, then specify the drive, partition, and kernel file: @boot boot :rl(0,0)unix Most systems then come up single-user, and you need to type CTRL-Z or CTRL-D to continue multi-user. That might involve also typing in the date/time, and often it's all in uppercase until the right tty driver is running. Lots of systems also do an icheck on the disks before actually starting -- this takes a while. In case you didn't know, to stop it you do # kill -1 1 which kills init and returns to single-user level; then you type # sync a couple of times to flush the disk buffers from memory to disk, and then you can halt it safely. What I want to know is, does that version respond to 'boot' and does it do the disk checks? ------------------------- Ok, it's doesn't boot from the pack so I need a RT-11 to act as primary boot to acess the device at some higher level. My 11/73 does know DL boot though. If I try to boot directly it says non-bootable. Invalid boot block I'd guess. Once I'm at the boot @ (looks just like odt!) either @unix or @boot boot :rl(0,0)unix Also works. I also have the advantage that I have RT-11 for my systems and if that runs it's a good head start as you know the hardware works. <It probably isn't memory, then. It's probably down to something (maybe a <driver) that checks for something like the presence of a register, finds i <on my 11/73, and makes an erroneous assumption. V7 predates the 11/73 by <quite a way, so that wouldn't be too surprising. The way I'm using it the assumption is that it's minimally 11/34 or better. Keep in mind the primary IO, DLV11, RL02 are all direct equivalent to the 11/34 and other unibus boards to the register level. Since it runs I must be doing something right. Allison

26 years, 1 month

PDP emulation

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 6, 9:01, CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote: > >> I tried swapping my M8186 (11/23) for M8192 (11/73) but it doesn't run. > >> Maybe I need to rebuild the kernel (I've got an original distribution, not > >> one of the images from PUPS), but perhaps it would work with more memory or > >> by swapping RLV11 for RLV12. > > >Cpu doesn't run or doesn't run V7? The image I have only wants some 256k > >of ram out of all teh installed ram. I get the impression it was > >configured for an 11/34 or similar and that is mostly a 11/23 save for the > >11/23 mmu can go to 22 bits. V7 doesn't run. More precisely, it boots and starts the kernel but it immediately panics. I can't remember what the message was; it's a long time since I tried it. > The V6 and V7 images currently available have device drivers that > were built for Unibus systems. They expect a Unibus Map to be present > for accessing memory above 256Kbytes (many of the drivers were built to > always expect a Unibus map). The "safe" thing to do on a Q-bus system > (or an emulated Q-bus system, like Supnik's emulator) is to run with 256Kbytes > or less. It probably isn't memory, then. It's probably down to something (maybe a driver) that checks for something like the presence of a register, finds it on my 11/73, and makes an erroneous assumption. V7 predates the 11/73 by quite a way, so that wouldn't be too surprising. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years, 1 month

old, old, old computer (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's what sounds like a Wang PC up for grabs. Please reply to the original sender. Reply-to: Wizzalbif(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:05:14 EST From: Wizzalbif(a)aol.com To: donate(a)vintage.org Subject: old, old, old computer I have an old computer at home that was probably made in the early 80's. It was made by Wang, and has 64K memory. I have a CPU, a monitor, and a dot matrix printer. Unfortunately, I am in Birmingham, Alabama with no plans to visit California anytime soon. If you do not want my computer, can you hook me up with anyone around here that might? All information is appreciated. Thanks. Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF Europe: April 29th & 30th, Munich, Germany VCF Los Angeles: Summer 2000 (*TENTATIVE*) VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

26 years, 1 month

Cromemco S-100 system. (Was: HUGE additions this last week!)

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

>Cromemco? (sp) S-100 system with manuals and software - 4 floppy >drives. I >know nothing about this unit other than it's heavy. It sounds like the system you have acquired is a Cromemco System 3. This (if I'm right) was the high-end model of Cromemco's original S-100 systems. It can run either the CP/M or C-DOS OS.This machine, as you've already found out, is quite heavy because the outer casing is 1/8" (!) thick! This thing could withstand a nuclear blast. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, Okimate 20. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3. ____________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

26 years, 1 month

HUGE additions this last week!

by dylanb＠sympatico.ca

Outside of the DEC warehouse stuff onroute I brought my uncle and aunt down with a 24' truck to the US to a prior DEC FE home and here is what was loaded up: DEC PDP -------------- 3 boxes of Straight PDP-8 manuals: maintenance, user, software and hardware, engineering, etc. a few "System Modules Books" Boxes of DECsystem 10 manuals many boxes of DEC manuals, prints, and paper tape software (really cool) Tri-data "File Cart" for the PDP-8 with 50 carts, boards, software , etc... TU56 tape drive parts and Astrotype DECtape units 60 trays of PDP-8, PDP-11 paper tape software 2 large boxes filled with DECTapes from PDP-8 and PDP-8 PDP-11 M8049 - many of them!!!!! :-) :-) :-) DRV-11J approx. 20 of them , probably more. TU45s PDP-11/05s PDP-11/03s PDP-11/35s PDP-11/40s RK07s TE16s Core memory systems (ME11, MM11, etc) RX02s AT least a hundred boxes of manuals Table top TU58 6 Decwriters S-100 --------- Altair 8800 , serial #80, all original MITS boards (15 boards), mostly rev 0, 6 4K RAM boards, 1 CPU, dual floppy controller (2 boards), PROM board, display board? serial/rs232 board, and others I can't identify yet. It came with 3 boxes of Manals, many early newsletters, engineering drawings, etc... and software from MITS. Dual Floppy 8" disk system. Amazingly, the 8800 is in mint condition, unmarked. I never really got into the 8800 hardware back then so I have no idea what some of the boards are... Cromemco? (sp) S-100 system with manuals and software - 4 floppy drives. I know nothing about this unit other than it's heavy. Victor/Vector? Graphics S-100 computer with dual external 5 1/4" floppies, books, etc.. I can't remember the manufacturer name but this board was used with an extender on an S100 system and has all the flip switches and lights to control the micro like an Altair 8800. It came with manuals, etc... HP ---- HP 1000 engineering, user, etc.. manuals HP 21MX system with papertape, mag tape, manuals, drawings, etc... Varian : (Al?) ------------------- Varian 620 user manuals and some others (about 7). Special thanks to Kevin Stumpf for finding emergency storage space. This load took up 400 FT^2. over 300 boxes of manuals, software and *many* PDP-11 unibus boards and 9 cabinets. There is still a few hundred boxes of manuals for old IBM, Burroughs prototype material left there for future pick up. A lot of hidden stuff in the load yet as we had *no* time to browse! This load was *very* difficult as it was located in a 2 story house with basement and garage :-( john PDP-8 and other rare mini computers http://www.pdp8.com

26 years, 1 month

SWC0166 transistor (HP9100B ROM assy)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<The original transistor has the following markings : < <Ti (Texas Instruments Logo) <SWC0166 HP/TI house number doesn't cross in any of my books and I have a pile of them(some very old). <6934A (Date code, I think). Most likely. <It's in a TO5 can, and is certainly NPN. There lie the next questions: SIlicone or GErmainium? (makes a difference) What is the collector to emitter voltage in circuit? What is the base/emitter voltage for the ON case and OFF case? How much current does it handle in circuit? Allison

26 years, 1 month

Informer terminal

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "McFadden, Mike" <mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu> wrote: > I came across two terminals that look like they are portable. Labeled > Informer model 207, I have an Informer portable terminal. I can't verify the model number because mine is in storage, but what _I_ have, emulates an IBM 3274 w/attached 3270. You can also daisy-chain several of these terminals together and only the first one acts as a terminal controller - the rest are dumb terminals. I got mine at the Dayton Hamvention about ten years ago when lots of them appeared at several booths simultaneously. It is _not_ an ASYNC ASCII terminal. It is _not_ VT100 compatible. It is a genuine IBM SNA PU Type 2. We used to compare its behavior on an HP Line Analyzer to our own SNA product. It helped us find a couple of bugs on our end during the BIND. Theoretically, you could aquire the Linux SNA package and attempt to use it there, but I know I'd have to have one compelling reason to try. If you happen to need to dial up a 4331 or 4381 Mainframe, *this* is the tool. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain goes away on 15 March. See http://www.infinet.com/ for details. Please update your address lists to reflect my new address: erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 1 month

HP3421A temperature measurements

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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26 years, 1 month

Need RS6K help

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Bill Pechter, quoting Peter Pachla: >> Hi, I've just gotten hold of an RS/6000 which appears to be a model 520 >> (7013?). >> >> Since the thing appears to be a server (POWERserver?), and thus has no >> display adapter, I need to get hold of at least one of the 10-pin to 25-pin >> serial port converter cables. >> >> Can anyone, preferably in the UK, help please? >> >> Also, does anyone know where I can track down a set of AIX 3.1.0 manuals - >> printed or electronic form? > Are you sure there's no video cable. The 7013's (5x0 models -- > 520/530/550/580/590) often had a video card for IBM fixed frequency > monitors--at least the one's I had did.) > > The serial ports weren't 10 pin on anythin IBM had that I saw. > They used 9 and 25 pin ports. I will say at the start that I have no experience with the 5XX (7013) - all this is based on the 320 and 375 machines (7012) we have at work. The serial ports on the 320s (can't remember about the 375) are indeed 10 pin. Physically it is the same as on the IBM 6150 but I haven't got around to testing the adaptor on my 6150 yet. If you want to try the expensive route, the part number printed on the adaptor I just pulled out of the draw is 00G0943, and you can try IBM. If you want a cheaper route, with luck we will be decommissioning and selling off the RS/6000 stuff within the next few months (only one piece of software left to be ported and that is almost finished) and I'll see what I can obtain for you. Video IIRC is a DA shell with three miniature coaxen in it, so I imagine Peter would have spotted it if it was there! The monitor is the IBM 6019. (My plan is: build one working 320 out of the two dead ones, and sell: a working 375, with monitor; a working 320, with monitor; a dead 320; a spare monitor. I have no idea how much the dead 320 will cost to repair, but if IBM are involved it is likely to be prohibitive, so perhaps I might get you the video card from the 320) BTW in case you wondered the keyboard is _not_ PS/2 compatible, but the mouse is and all the windows drivers think it's a Logitech (it's on my PC at the moment). HTH Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

26 years, 1 month

Informer terminal

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I came across two terminals that look like they are portable. Labeled Informer model 207, the keyboard is in the cover of the display and clips to it with two metal clips. There is a fold down handle on the back and it is covered by a canvas dust cover. There are connectors for a phone connection and external keyboard on the back. It looks like some sort of troubleshooting terminal. I have searched the Web and only found 1 reference. Most of the incorrect references are to French terminals. Does anybody know anything more about them? Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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