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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I forget the actual words, and who said it, but there is a > saying that goes > something like this. "Those who are willing to trade thier > freedom for a > little safety deserve neither freedom OR safety." Ben Franklin: The man who would trade a bit of liberty for a bit of security deserves neither liberty nor security Probably still not exactly correct, it may have been "a little" instead of "a bit". Only certain source I can think of is the musical "1776" and they probably mangled the original line to make it more stage-worthy. -doug q (who would trade all the security he has for more liberty)

25 years, 10 months

Part datasheets try 2

by djg＠drs-esg.com

The former pay IHS Caps datasheet service is now available for free from http://www.freetradezone.com. It has a good collection of datasheets for obsolete components not available from manufacturer sites. You do have to register and enter a company name. I used the pay CD based system when my work had it but have not done much with the online version. David Gesswein

25 years, 10 months

Part datasheets

by djg＠drs-esg.com

25 years, 10 months

VAX 6540 (?) available in Cork, Ireland

by kenn＠bluetree.ie

I just heard about this: > It's a 6540 I think. About 4ft wide, 3ft deep and 6ft high. 3-phase > power, plus tape unit, console, etc. BIG motherfucker. You'd need > to find transport... If you're interested, I'll give you this guy's email address off-list. Later, Kenn

25 years, 10 months

TI Professional Computer

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

Good Lord, Joe, where do you store it all??? Joe Rigdon wrote: > Here's a list of just SOME of the stuff that I've picked up in the last > two weeks: SIX Cromemco Z2-D S-100 systems with dual floppy drives and > hard drives, HP 9825B (loaded), FIVE various HP 9825 interfaces, HP 1000 > A600 computer, HP 1000 E series computer, TWO HP 9895 dual 8" floppy > drives, TWO HP 9885 single 8" floppy drives, two HP 987? printers, HP 7906 > fixed drive, TWO HP 6940 Multiprogrammers (loaded) and a HP ?? > Multiprogrammer Interface, TI Professional computer in like new condition > with original monitor and keyboard and a National Instruments HP-IB card, > and last night, a IBM AT with an 8" floppy drive controller card. That's > in addition to OVER 320 memory SIMMS, numerous cards, keyboards and other > bits and pieces. Does that sound like the kind of stuff that should be > left as scrap because I can't test it first? > > Joe

25 years, 10 months

OT Now: Re: TI Professional Computer

by mgregory＠vantageresearch.com

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Strickland <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 3:10 PM Subject: Re: OT Now: Re: TI Professional Computer > >*heh* I think it was the marketing department at the Cirrus Cybernetics >company who were a bunch of mindless jerks who would be first up against the >wall when the revolution comes. Although I believe a later edition of the Guide that fell through a temporal vortex described the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who _were_ the first up against the wall when the revolution came". Now where did I leave my Peril Sensitive Sunglasses? Mark "Ford Prefect" Gregory

25 years, 10 months

Semi-OT: Mac IIsi and Open Transport

by ckaiser＠oa.ptloma.edu

This is semi-OT, since the IIsi has two years to go before it's on topic :-) For a Commodore nut, I sure seem to be doing a steady traffic in Apples. >From the same place I got the SE/30 and the IIgs ROM 3, I also picked up a IIsi. After some cursing because it was set up with At UnEase, I rigged a boot disk, trashed AE and started poking around. It's an '030 with 5MB RAM running System 7.1. I'm finally seeing value in the tuition I pay to Loma Linda University, since I basically went to the System Folder on all their System 7 Macs and grabbed all the extensions and control panels. Surprisingly, at least to me (the systems in question were 7.5 or later), this seemed to work EXCEPT for OpenTransport. PC Exchange purrs like a kitten and I'm able to handle ProDOS and DOS like a pro. (By the way, what files does ProDOS 8 need to have on the disk for it to be bootable?) But the IIsi simply refuses to mount OT. I downloaded 1.0.8 from the Apple support site and tried that, but it simply said it could not be installed on this particular model and gave no further explanation. The readme asserts that it will run on '030s and 7.1, though, for all the versions available from asu.info.apple.com. However, they appear to be updates, not installs (except for 1.0.8, the 1.1.x versions say that 1.1 must be installed already). Simply copying the libraries and the Shared Library Manager into the Extensions folder doesn't work. It just ignores them, and when I try to start the TCP/IP or AppleTalk control panels, it whines that OT is not running. Copying fresh ones from the "uninstallable" install disk doesn't do any good either. Any suggestions? I'm really hoping to avoid having to make the monster (for this poor thing) download of 7.5+ from the Apple support site if I can avoid it. I don't mind System 7.1 at all, really. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)ptloma.edu -- Dalai Lama to hotdog vendor: "Make me one with everything." ----------------

25 years, 10 months

AppleTalk on the hoof

by paulrsm＠ameritech.net

---------- > From: Cameron Kaiser <ckaiser(a)oa.ptloma.edu> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: AppleTalk on the hoof > Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:01 PM > > Think the SE/30 itself could handle it? If I downloaded the software to > another Mac and took the disks over to the SE/30, would it be able to do > the ProDOS transfer? It is old enough :-) I don't have DD disks here, but > I can get some. The SE/30 can handle 800K disks with no problems (unless someone changed the drive...). You will need Disk Copy 4.2 to create the disks. > Can ProDOS speak AppleTalk? That's the main reason for my interest in > GS/OS. If ProDOS can access an AppleTalk server, then I don't really care > about GS/OS. How much memory does v6 require? I have an Apple II Workstation Card that will let my Apple IIe, using ProDOS 8, talk to ASFS. It is possible, but I have not done it yet myself. Someday I will set up an AppleShare server for my Apple IIs but I simply have not done it yet. > This is ASFS v2. Where can I get v3? (Yup, it does take over the whole > machine :-) See the following site for information on ASFS v3: http://lowendmac.com/tech/appleshare3.shtml. I do not know where to get it. I just missed it once on Usenet; by the time I contacted the owner it was already gone. It had version 2 and 3 with all the disks and manuals, too. For more help, try Usenet at comp.sys.apple2. That's where I learned most of what I know about networking Apple IIs. Paul R. Santa-Maria Ann Arbor, Michigan USA paulrsm(a)ameritech.net

25 years, 10 months

If classic computers were cars...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 13, 13:31, Lawrence LeMay wrote: > The Indy series had CPU upgrades available several times during its lifespan. > We replaced CPU's in our Indys at least twice, becuase SGI gave us a great > bargain on the upgrade price. I know the first time we upgraded was > shortly after we purchased the units, so I wouldnt be surprised if the > original CPU was extremely slow. Yes, I think the first upgrade was very soon after the launch. Ours all came with 4400's or 4600's. Anyway, if you still have any R5000's going spare, I can find homes for a couple.... :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 10 months

If classic computers were cars...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 13, 15:07, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > It's a nice story, but unfortunately, only a story. I should know: I have > > three Indigos and two Indys of my own, and manage about a hundred more at > > work. An (blue) Indy is faster than an (purple) Indigo. > > Perhaps slightly more than a story. To bring the cost down on the Indy, > they were available with or without secondary cache. All R4000 Indigos > have secondary cache (1 MB of it, IIRC), and this resulted in the older > R4000 Indigo being noticeably quicker than most of the least expensive > Indys. Only the very first Indys; SGI very quickly (a few months) moved from R4000 to 4400 and then 4600, which are the same speed as, or slightly faster than, the R4K Indigo. But yes, I'd forgotten about the original R4000PC Indy, and that would account for the story. > Certainly the Indy was available in configurations which are a good deal > quicker than the fastest Indigo (150 MHz R4400), though there are > operations for which the Indigo's Elan graphics are quicker than the > Indy's top-of-the-line XZ graphics... That's certainly true, so I'm glad that one of mine is an XS24 and another is an Elan, although the R5K might make a difference even then, or so I hear on comp.sys.sgi. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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