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by Glenatacme＠aol.com

In a message dated 06/14/2000 7:32:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes: > >This unit looks okay but is untested. If anyone has any interest I'll fire > >it up. You can have it for the cost of shipping. It came with a monitor > >(probably mono or CGA), but I doubt anyone wants to pay the freight on it. > > From where? Oops -- forgot to mention I'm in Florida. Glen 0/0

25 years, 10 months

OT: mechanical computer monitor

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

We already had the "mechanical fax machine" thread... here's a (partly) mechanical computer monitor. It uses classic technology (the Nipkov, or I think also Nipkow, disk) but it shows a computer-generated digital signal rather than an analog signal. So it's computer-related! :) http://www.media.mit.edu/~rehmi/rotoscope/ The creator wants to make a "wind-up browser" in the same way you can get wind-up radios and flashlights. -- Derek

25 years, 10 months

Tandy 1000 EX free to good home

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

This unit looks okay but is untested. If anyone has any interest I'll fire it up. You can have it for the cost of shipping. It came with a monitor (probably mono or CGA), but I doubt anyone wants to pay the freight on it. Let me know. Glen 0/0

25 years, 10 months

Fw: New find: HP 1000 E series

by west＠tseinc.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Jay West <west(a)tseinc.com> To: Carlos Murillo-Sanchez <cem14(a)cornell.edu> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: New find: HP 1000 E series > You wrote.... > You wrote... > > Slot > > # card description > > ----------------------- > > 25 -empty- > > 24 BACI 12966A > > 23 Jumper > > 22 Jumper > > 21 BACI 12966A > > 20 BACI 12966A > > 17 BACI 12966A (note: no slots are labeled 19 or 18) > > That's because the slot numbering is octal. > > > 16 Jumper > > 15 Jumper > > 14 -empty- > > 13 -empty- > > 12 DISK INTFC 12821A (HPIB; why a second one?) > > 11 DISK INTFC 12821A (HPIB) > > 10 TIMEBASE GEN > > Very likely there is a two board controller missing - did you say you have a > separate 7970 tape drive? If it's non-HP-IB, then those two missing boards > are tape-1 and tape-2. You'd want those :) > > > Slot > > # card description > > ----------------------- > > DCPC D.C.P.C. | Ribbon connector from front fingerpad to bckpln > > 111 MEMORY PROTECT 22-7931 > > 112 MEM 22-2127 > > 113 -empty- > > 114 -empty- > > . . > > . . > > 120 -empty- > > 121 256KW HSM 12749M | these three cards have their left front > > fingerpads > > 122 256KW HSM 12749M | joined by ribbon cable. Right front finger > > pads > > 123 MEM CNTLR 2102E | not connected. > > Memory options - DMA (DCPC), Memory Protect, and Extended Memory ( > 32KW). > > > I did not move the cards around, but again, maybe some cards are > > missing. > > I don't know what OS the system was running. > > RTE, DOS, BCS? I dunno - I'd make a wild stab at what you've said so far > about the machine that it was RTE. > > > I guess that the first thing that I have to do now that I tested the > > power supply and verified that the machine (seems to) turn on, > > is to build a serial console cable for this. I have several cables > > that will fit the BACI boards, but the connectors at the other > > end have been cut off. Does anybody have the pin out for the > > finger pads in the front of the BACI boards? > > I use 12531 controllers. I do have a few baci boards, but I'm not sure what > docs I have on them. I'll look, but anyone else have this handy? > > Jay West >

25 years, 10 months

Anyone interested in VAX tapes

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I'd suggest either giving them away (post a "who wants these" sort of message here, for example) or putting them up on eBay. Throwing things in the trash, especially things which...well, aren't trash, is never a good solution. -Dave McGuire On June 14, Mark Champion wrote: > I have 30 small (6" dia) VAX tapes (Opus 6250) and 12 large (7" dia) VAX tapes (Scotch 700). > > I believe the small tapes are 600' x 1/2" and the large tapes are 700' x 1/2". > > I think they have all been written on once. > > Are these worth anything to anyone? > > What should I do with them? Throw them away? Give them away? List on Ebay? > > Mark Champion > Sony Electronics > 206-524-0014 > mark.champion(a)am.sony.com > > > >

25 years, 10 months

New find: HP 1000 E series

by cem14＠cornell.edu

Well, today I walked by the auto labs in mech engr and found that they had finally finished dismantling this very old combustion/emissions test rig, and the HP1000 computer that ran the whole show had not been hauled away yet. Somebody had laid a claim on it two weeks ago, but since it's so long already and they haven't showed up, the person who handled the decomissioning gave it to me. I have not been able to open the front panel latch because I do not have the key, so I don't know what's in the front card cage; all I know is that there are seven cards, four at the botton and three at the top. In the back cage there are three jumper cards, two 12821A disk interfaces,one "time base generator card", and four cards marked "BACI 12966A" where most of the control I/O was apparently done. There are two big cards below the main card cage, but I haven't got to them yet. I also got several cables; two of them obviously connected the disk interface cards to an HPIB device (an HP 7946 tape drive also came in the lot), while others went to the test rig, and yet another seemed to go to a PC being used as a terminal. Unfortunately, I don't know where the cables were originally connected, as somebody had already pulled all cables off the computer. The machine is very, very dirty; not surprising considering where it came from (a car shop). The fans are full of oil-impregnated dust. I don't plan to power it up until I know more about it. They tell me that it was still functional about three years ago. Apparently nobody has touched it since. So, does anybody have any info on the power supply of this thing so I can test it before applying power to the cards? And, where did the console go in this machine? Best regards, carlos.

25 years, 10 months

You think you can't find anything! (Was: Ohmygosh... A *few* finds...)

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

>>2) This is the "believe it or not" catagory for this >>area: I found a >>copy of Digital Research's Concurrent >>DOS 386, with all docs, slightly >>beat up box but >>otherwise in very good shape, marked $1.00. I >>say: >>"Will ya take 50 >>cents?" They say "sure." Bargain of the day! ;-) > >I have a CCdos 386 kit (release 3)and I've run it. DRI >was on the right >track and it was quite a bit better >than MS-DOS. > >>Usually the landscape is littered with '286s for >>$300.00 (firm). > >I bet the reason there are a lot of them around is the >price! Here thats >a decent 486DX/66(or faster) that can >run winders complete with tube. > >Allison You think you people can't find anything! Pickin's are so slim out here, last time I picked up anything interesting was right about early March or so. My point is simply this: If there is anything I have learned in this long, strange trip that is life, it is to never complain about anything, there is always someone who has it worse than you do. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. ____________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

25 years, 10 months

Lexmark Lexbook MB10 power suppply question

by ss＠allegro.com

Hi, I recently found a Lexmark "Lexbook MB10" ... with no docs, no power supply. The back of the computer says the power supply should be 12 V DC, but has no mention of the polarity! Does anyone have this oddball computer, and can they tell me the polarity of the adapter, please? BTW, this Lexbook looks like IBM's answer to the HP Omnibook 425. In web searching, I found several references to other Lexbook models (including the SE10), but none to the MB10. Lexmark's web site was an example of corporate stonewalling (not quite the word I want): since it's obsolete, they have no information on it, and don't even admit (via their search engine) that it might have once existed! Altavista found a single Lexmark.com web page about "Y2K compliance" ...which basically says: hey, it's obsolete, we didn't test it, buy something newer. thanks, Stan Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

25 years, 10 months

OT Vast amounts of NASA data in weird formats (Long)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Now that the subject line somewhat matches the topic. NASA and other unnamed government agencies collect "LOTS" of data. They have lots of tapes, some ASCII card images on tape, and other raw formats. Now when a project is winding down do you think anyone "cares"/spends money to transfer any data into newer formats. The original software that was written probably handles the data and works OK. I understand that lots of LANDSAT data has cloud cover obscuring it. Do you save even the "apparently" worthless stuff? The first thing any engineer/programmer tries is to pack the data onto the tape as efficiently as possible. 12 bit pixels get stored 2 pixels in every 3 bytes. Everybody used different methods to handle uneven numbers of pixels, including padding, and truncation. How do you decide how the data was stored. I'm sure the paper that documents the data format is detached from the physical tape. The short answer is that when data is collected no one has any idea of what eventually may be done with the data. They only expend as much time, energy, and money as the initial project seems to justify. I will try and find my copy of a GAO report that I purchased on the magnitude of the data storage/retention problem. They had pictures of doors in the data vault being held open by stacks of tapes. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu Data Hound extraordinary, I'm burying my floppy disks for posterity. Maybe we should use gold floppy disks will not oxidize and absorb moisture in any short term interval.

25 years, 10 months

ASCII e-mail vs iso-8859-1

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 10, R. D. Davis wrote: > Can certain list members who aren't sending standard ASCII text kindly > fix their e-mail software so that they stop sending messagse that > could possibly cause problems for some people using older systems? > > Doesn't it seem a little strange that people who are interested in > computer preservation are sending iso-8859-1 character set messages > instead of normal ASCII to a mailing list where others are likely to > be using older systems to read their e-mail? Once ASCII goes away, > then we've all got problems that would make our older systems very > much incompatible with everything else and less useful. Is not plain > old ASCII one standard that we should value and do our best to keep > from going out of use? I agree 100%. Though I must point out that it has nothing at all to do with "older" or "newer" systems...it's primarily a "windows" or "non-windows" issue. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 10 months

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