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How do you finance/afford your computer collection?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 22, 12:38, R. D. Davis wrote: > Why are you sending Luzedoze e-mail to this list? Please either find > a way to send plain ASCII or delete Luzedoze from your system and > install something more useful that can send messages properly. Well, much as I dislike Outlook (depressed or otherwise), it actually is capable of sending plain text. You just need to make sure it's set to generate plain text (not HTML, RTF, or multipart/mixed) in some reasonable character set, for new messages, AND override the use of HTML/RTF/whatnot when replying. Besides, there are plenty of other Windows mailers besides Outlook; it's not a reason to go off the deep end. > However, you need to remember that not everyone here uses that Microsoft > rubbish, so you shouldn't be sending e-mail that requires the recipient > to do anything other than read it. True, in fact the Merrill Lynch survey I saw on CNN a little earlier today showed that less than three-quarters of people using Windows use Microsoft email software. Since only about 2/3 of PCs (in the loosest sense) run Windows, that means only about half use Outlook etc. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years

Tapes

by sring＠uslink.net

Does anyone know where I can locate blank computer cassette tapes for the Commodore, etc.? Music tapes are usually too long. From: "Stephanie Ring" sring(a)uslink.net

26 years

How do you finance/afford your computer collection?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 22, 8:18, Marvin wrote: > Geoff Roberts wrote: > > > > I see your msgs in a stretched font. Quite different from all the > > others. > > > > In the headers of your msg, we see:- > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined > > > > In the top toolbar when you are writing or replying to a msg. > > It will be set to user-defined. > > Set it to Western European (Windows) and it will revert to ISO-8859-1 > > which seems to be straight ASCII. > > Okay, I just changed it from user-defined to Western. Is this message coming > through okay? FWIW, I've been using Netscape for years with no problems that > *I* am aware of :). Yes. The headers in Marvin's message said "charset=us-ascii". But you ought to realise that ISO-8859-x is not ASCII; the lower 128 characters are the same but the remaining 128 (top bit set) are foreign-language characters and additional symbols -- ASCII is a 7-bit character code while the ISO 8859 ones are all 8-bit. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years

Should I add a "Micro" PDP11/73 to the Herd?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Well, as long as the machine comes with a complete version of the > software installed, then there's no problem. The whole licensing > issue is pure lunacy. Someone initially paid a vast quantity of money > to Some Random Computer Manufacturer for the machine, then, got > charged another large sum of money for the software - the OS - needed > to use the machine. Both were products that have already been paid > for. Let's say you bought one of those newfangled automobiles that's > infested with lots of electronic circuitry, including computers with > firmware. Now, let's say you sell the car. If that firmware was > licensed like computer software, the person who bought the car from > you wouldn't be able to use it without being bilked out of a licencing > fee from the auto's manufacturer. What if books were treated like > software? This is just a way of extorting money from people; it > amounts to no more than legalized theft. Together, democracy and free enterprise constituted a severe paradigm shift for the robber barons, but eventually, they figured it out. So, if they're going to stand behind every tree on the highway, ready to exact from us a toll for any thing we want to do, then we have to figure out how to travel without using that highway, rendering their strong-arm tactics moot. -doug q

26 years

IBM System/38 Availible (Again)

by mrdos＠swbell.net

There is still a System/38 available in San Francisco. If anyone is interested, please contact Rbatist(a)aol.com . It works and comes with a tape drive and several disk drives.

26 years

Legal Question

by mrdos＠swbell.net

All this talk about RT-11, RSX-11M,RSTS/E licensing details is making me wonder. If I acquired a PDP-11 of some kind, and it came with RSX-11M and/or RT-11 and or/ RSTS/E, would I have to have a license? I know a license is legally required, but is it essential in running the OS? Does the OS have any way of checking for one? What is required for running the OS? I really don't know anything about the PDP-11 family. Thanks, Owen

26 years

Thinker Toys (was: KFC (was: Mark your calendars for VCF 4.0

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I am the proud owner of two Thinker Toys products, the Wunderbus, and > > the EconoRAM IV (hope that's the right model, this was one of those > > really EARLY dynamic RAM boards; the ceramic gold-topped versions of > > these chips worked fine, the but the plastic ones had trouble forgetting > > things when they got hit by cosmic rays). > > It was the gold eutectic weld that was the source of alpha particles > that were the concern at the time. The later problem was Dram timing > problems and there were fixes. Ah, I stand corrected... and that would explain why the system was always flaky with that board in, and stable without it (I was blaming the bus). So, knowing nothing about the half-life of the welding material, can you tell me, has the material in the welds decayed enough now that the board should operate in a more stable fashion? -dq

26 years

How do you finance/afford your computer collection?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 22, Sellam Ismail wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > You have an Intel box? Eeew. > > It's OK. It's running Linux. Ahh. *whew* -Dave McGuire

26 years

Should I add a "Micro" PDP11/73 to the Herd?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>At 12:40 PM 6/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >>It isn't, but Mentec will soon (I hope) have a hobbyist licensing program for >>RT-11, RSX-11M, RSX-11M+, and RSTS/E. Watch the "Hobbyist licensing" >>link on their "PDP-11"/"legacy systems" webpage at >> http://www.mentec.com/ >> Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com >If they do this then the market for PDP-11's will go up by a large amount. >--Chuck IMHO it's not a matter of "If" but "When". There are some pots remaining to be stirred but the brew is *almost* done. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years

NCR model 3401 class 5451

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 21, Tony Duell wrote: > > > ps margin: +5%/normal/-5% > > > > What's a ps margin switch for? > > Power Supply Margin testing, I guess. Basically it runs the PSU (+5V > line, probably) at 5% over or under the 'right' value. If you have an > intermittant fault to trace, this may make it appear permanently so you > can track it down. Similarly, a machine that fails on either of the > margin settings is likely to _become_ unreliable even at the normal > voltage, so you can catch errors during preventive maintenance. Interestingly, both the Cray J90 and the YMP-EL (and possibly other models as well) have +- margin switches for their power regulators accessible on their front panels. -Dave McGuire

26 years

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