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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> A complete Prime 2850 system is for sale on E-Bay, > starting at one dollar. Reserve price in effect, > amount (as always) unknown. > > Here's a shortcut to the beast: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=364711731 > > -dq BTW, if you go there, look at tge picture carefully... there is what appears to be a 1200 ft reel of tape in a tape seal either lying on the floor under the 2850, or, God forbid, holding up the 2850 in lieu of a missing caster. Probably a Primos release tape. :-(

26 years

Prime 2850 for Sale on E-Bay

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

A complete Prime 2850 system is for sale on E-Bay, starting at one dollar. Reserve price in effect, amount (as always) unknown. Here's a shortcut to the beast: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=364711731 -dq

26 years

How do you finance/afford your computer collection?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 22, Sellam Ismail wrote: > YEAH! And while you're at it, throw that shitty Intel box out the window > and in the trash! DO IT NOW! You freaking losers! How dare you use any > Microcschlock products in my presence! You have an Intel box? Eeew. -Dave McGuire

26 years

Tapes

by mgregory＠vantageresearch.com

-----Original Message----- From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Tapes > >Too long? Sure you waste a lot of tape, but any new audio tape is going to >be in better shape than any old Computer Cassettes you might find. I aways >used audio tapes with my VIC20, usually the absolute cheapest I could get >my hands on. IIRC, I usually used something like 60 minute tapes. > The shorter the tape length, the better. Modern extended-play tapes use a thinner nylon tape (to fit more tape in the standard cassette), which is more prone to stretching and breaking with repeated rewind/play cycles. Some older answering machines used very short standard cassettes, I'd estimate about C10 length. If you can find a store that still sells those (even a liquidator selling off those awful novelty "celebrity answering machine messages") they might be suitable. They would also be newer than the 15+ year old computer cassette tapes. Another option would be to shop for a cheap disk drive for your system. In my experience old 5.25" floppies in good condition are much easier to find than cassettes. Regards, Mark.

26 years

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Even though the reply had a funny touch to it how else do you expect to have your collection survive you? Or don't you care about it? The main point was that there will allways (I hope) be other collectors willing to take on some else's collection there can even be a public distribution/sale or other for people interested. The thing I'm worried about is about my stuff ending in the trash (160 or so machines with peripherals and documentation) and I've specifically told my wife that if I die she should post a note on this very list and ask for help in disposing of it. She does consider my collection as a pile of junk but she also knows that this is not the opinion of everyone. Actually I am thinking of adding something to that nature in my will. I allways tink that I have time to think about it (I'm 34) but you never know... If you worry and value the conservation of your machines you should take the same dispositions and make sure that none is lost. Francois > This is amusing I suppose, until the first list members start to die. The > topic deserves serious discussion. >

26 years

Software Licensing (Was: RE: Should I add a "Micro" PDP11/73 to t he Herd?)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Do you have any understanding of the computer industry? Do you have any > understanding of computers larger than your Windows box? Do you even look > at the licenses of any software you have purchased? I'm fairly sure you > don't remember the days when you didn't even own the computer, you rented > it, or rented time on one. I have owned a computer continuously since 1976, when I built a SOL (and I helped finish building an IMSAI the next year that was botched by a physics professor). Of the dozen or so computers I own, two are Windows boxen. My physician told me to stop reading the licences, or I'd have a stroke. The first computer I used was a CDC6500 running DualMACE at Purdue in 1974. I checked- Purdue OWNED the computer, they did not RENT it. >From there I went to a CDC6600 running Kronos 2.1 at Indiana University; I had a computer account for each of my classes, and one given me for donating my services as s student consultant. Additionally, I PAID $$$ for a commercial account so that I could print large-format lineprinter posters and sell them. > Kindly take your free software whine elsewhere. If you want to write > software and give it away that's your business. If someone else wants to > write software and sell right to use licenses that's their business. > Personally I both sell and give away the software I write, depending on the > program. I wrote nothing stating that I was looking for free software. How is it that you take not wanting to be ripped of to mean that I want something for free? The problem isn't that I don't understand the computer industry, it's that the computer industry has been taken over by robber barons. It happened during the 1980s; I recall it distinctly. Dang, I know I'm a prima donna, but if all the prima donnas stay off this list, I think it will get might darned quiet. respectfully submitted, -doug quebbeman

26 years

Free: Apollo DOMAIN/OS Software Distribution Tapes

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Actually, Domain/OS is one of Apollo's 3 operating systems... Apollo started back when AT&T wasn't licensing UNIX for commercial use, so they had to create their own UNIX clone, which was actually better than UNIX. This was called Aegis, later changed to be called Domain/OS. Later, when AT&T did start licensing UNIX, Apollo was smart enough to know that even though Aegis or Domain/OS, depending on what you called it, was better than UNIX, the AT&T standard was what mattered to people, so they licensed UNIX, and that became Domain/IX, and shortly afterward, HP bought Apollo and killed basically everything other than Prism (PA-Risc). Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

26 years

Thinker Toys (was: KFC (was: Mark your calendars for VCF 4.0

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> It was the timing problem... the failure rate (soft) for the alpha > particle thing was so low you'd see power hits and other gremlins > first. > > S100 system were prone to bus noise (even with wonderbus) so where a > card was installed could litterally mean fail/flakey/works for the same > card! Bus termination schemes were used to help but the 22 slot bus was > too long and a more modest 18 or 12 slot was always more reliable. > > Dram cards were by and large trouble as they were most sensitive to timing > problems. I always ran static for testing and some systems for that > reason. I never had the opportunity to work with a machine that was IEEE-696 compliant. I'm assuming you did (Danger Will Robinson!)... were compliant boards reliable? Do you know of any attempts to retrofit compliance onto existing S-100 designs? -dq

26 years

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

I think your sister has the right answer. Tell her to notify me of the tragic event and I'll bring a dumpster over. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:57 AM Subject: RE: Yo >> >> Every collector should have a will, and it should direct the >> disposition of their collection. Maybe the disposition is "sell it on >> eBay", maybe it's offer it on ClassicCmp", maybe it's "give it to >> Stanford"...or ? > >Since my only family is my sister, I told her "Just think, one day all of >this will be yours". To which she replied "Great... Which dumpster should I >put it in?" > >Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> >

26 years

Legal Question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 22, 12:46, Owen Robertson wrote: > All this talk about RT-11, RSX-11M,RSTS/E licensing details is making me > wonder. If I acquired a PDP-11 of some kind, and it came with RSX-11M and/or > RT-11 and or/ RSTS/E, would I have to have a license? Legally, strictly, yes. However, I've been told off the record by two senior DEC staff in the UK that if I acquire a machine with the OS and don't use it for commercial purposs, they would turn a blind eye. > but is it essential in running the OS? Does the OS have > any way of checking for one? Nope. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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