Subjet: line says it really, but I think I should explain...
Are the HP9100 and HP9810 calcualtors really RPN machines? I think not.
You ahve 3 registers, called X(Keyboard), Y(Accumulator) and Z(Temporary)
which appear to be a stack. But it;s not really as stack IMHO.
Entereing a number form the keyboard puts it in X, leaving the other 2
registers unaltered. At no time is there an automatic stack lift (AFAIK).
THere are functions to effectively push and drop the stack (if it is
one:-)) and to roll it round.
Arthmetic operations perfrome something like Y:=Y(OP)X. Again, there is
no lift or drop, there is no change to any register other than Y.
1-number operations normally do X:=f(X), at least one does Y:=f(Y),
though. Again nothing else is changed, no lift or drop.
You can get the user manuals from the Austalian museum site if you want
ot read up on this...
My (considered?) opinion is that it's certainly a postfix machine in that
you enter both numbers into Y and X before doing an arithmetic operation.
But becuase of the lack of automatic stack operation, it's not an RPN
machine?
What about the other 'RPN' desktop machines (friden, etc)
Any thoughts?
-tony
I have the following on eBay, ending this weekend
VT330 Item # 330613186993
LK250 keyboards: # 330607337643, 330607337630
Hmmm... have to go fix the photos.
I am cleaning the basement, I will have a bunch of DEC ephemera and
random databooks from the late 1970s, for the cost of shipping.
Will list a link some time when I can put together a list.
Dave.
(I am passing this along for a friend who restores and sells teletypes)
"..It has been serviced, tested in local and line mode and is in
excellent operating condition. Only the motor gears, belt, oil pad
and rubber hammer were replaced to bring it up to like new operating
condition. It has an even parity keyboard. This is the nicest 33 I
have seen in many years. The only thing that keeps it from being
perfect is a few minor nicks on the cover and some scratches on the
pedestal. No copyholder is included, but a source for them is
available if one is desired. This 33 has a rare lighted lid w/window
Teletype option. If this option is not desired, the lid will be
replaced with another very nice one. .."
Pictures:
http://vintagecomputer.net/wayne/Description_and_pics_of_Sept_2001_33.pdf
$1200
Please email teletypeparts-at-aol.com if you have any questions.
Does anyone have the specs for the JPN DS-53A half-height 5.25"
floppy drive? Apparently it was used on some Digital equipment, as
units with DEC branding exist.
The web is conflicted--either it's a 360K or a 1.2M drive. I'm
wondering if it's just an RX50 clone in a half-height package and SS
96 tpi double-density.
Does anyone know for certain?
Thanks,
Chuck
Does anyone know where I can find replacement case screws for an IBM Model
M keyboard?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> On 9/12/2011 10:42 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
> > The machine is in fantastic condition. -Dave
>
> Umh, it is badly yellowed, water damaged, and has a big crack in the
> case. I guess I just have a different idea of 'fantastic'. The
> original boxes is the only cool thing I see at all and they are messed
> up from water damage.
>
> They all came with manual sets. They are super common with complete
> systems. No other way to read the docs back then. All scanned online now
> along with all the software. The extra packages too. All on bitsavers.
>
> $500 for this is nuts. People give them away all the time and the few
> I've seen pass through ebay go for maybe $150 or so in much better
shape.
>
I have to agree, the condition is not good enough to pay $500. Also there
is no DOS card included. I am of course biased, I got my system for free.
Bill
Hello.
I have an ASR 33 teletype that I am trying to clean up and make it run
well. It does work. I plan to have it hooked up to a PC via a current
loop to RS232 adapter and have HeavyMetal feeding it text. It is very
dirty. I replaced the ribbon. Basically, here's what I'd like to know:
What parts need to be cleaned and/or lubricated?
How do I clean out the paper tape punch scrap container?
Can I use compressed air to remove dust, or would that cause damage?
Thanks much
Joe
For my first 4 years with E-mail I was only on DECNET/HEPNET.
So DECNET style E-mail addresses for me (TDS222 at IOWA
and TSHOPPA at FNALF).
Later on, some of my BITNET E-mail addresses from
the 80's and early 90's are found when I google
myself. Some of these were on the same VAXes
via BITNET gateways, others were on
PRIMOS machines on BITNET, a couple were
genuinely on IBM hardware and then later
Amdahl hardware. I really struggled with
the IBM user interfaces :-).
I did use UUCP forwarding on several occasions
but I never thought of the bang-path
as "my E-mail address".
Amazingly enough several of the
LISTSERV's that I subscribed to/posted to
back in the 80's still exist today in one form
or another. Some were surprisingly hard
to find but they're still there.
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:49:50 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
Duell) wrote:
>> I then put the pliers down and lift the IC with my fingers.
>>
>> If you can't lift the IC with your fingers you have not release all the
>> legs, don't try prying - this only leads to tears and swearing...
> I find that uyou can prise (pry) the IC looks after breaking the bond
> between each pin and the CPB, but the trick is to know jsut how much
> force you can safely apply without damaging either the IC (it is possible
> to crack the DIL package and rip pins out) or the PCB. Prising can be
> very useful to sdee which part of a large DIL pakacge seems ot be free
> wnas whcih pios might still be holding it (and thus need resolderign and
> desoldering again). Just take great care!
>
>
I find that one needs to be very careful when prising, it is all too
easy to rip out the through-hole plating. It may not be a disaster but
sometimes it is very hard to solder the new IC on the component side.
/Jonas
[forwarded on behalf of SRCS]
Come one, come all, to the Seattle Retro-Computing Society's monthly
meeting, on Saturday, September 17th, 2011!
Do you do any of the following with old computers near Seattle?
+ Use, collect, and/or restore them
+ Play games on them
+ Write programs for them
+ Develop new hardware for them
+ Help other people do any of the above
If your answer was "yes," as I expect it will be if you're reading this
near Seattle, then the SRCS is for you! We exist so you can show off
your awesome stuff, bounce ideas off of fellow enthusiasts, and be
inspired by one another's achievements, plans and aspirations.
No idea is too big or too small, and we're not picky about what flavor
of vintage machine you prefer! Come on down and tell us about it!
The meetings are graciously hosted by the Living Computer Museum, a
relatively new organization which is building a computer museum in
Seattle's SODO neighborhood. There will be refreshments, a Buy-Sell-
Free-Trade table, and enough table space & power to set up anything you
may want to show off!
For further details, please see our newly improved web page at
http://www.seattleretrocomputing.com/ and our mailing list at
http://groups.google.com/group/seattle-retrocomp . Hope to see you
there!
(Please note, we usually meet on the fourth Saturday of each month; we
had to move it up a week this month because of schedule conflicts with
retrocomputing events in other cities.)
Gordon "gsteemso" Steemson
SRCS agitator-in-chief
Hi
I was just offered two "extender boards" which looks to fit QBus. They
look like this:
http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/IMG_5090.JPG
My own theory is that they fit the UNIBUS -> QBus converter I got with
my GAMMA-11 from the same souce.
Regards,
Pontus
(resending from a different account, apologies if this is a duplicate)
I have a 16-pin IC to desolder and I am struggling.
Since I last asked about desoldering I have got a lot better with a
de-soldering pump and can now clear the hole in the sense that I see a black
hole rather than solder, and I can see daylight through all the holes (but
for most of the holes this is only if I angle the board the right way).
However, in this case the solder seems to be going all the way through and
slightly onto the component side surface where I can't get at it with the
pump. I have jiggled the pins to try to break any last bits of solder, but
the chip is still very solidly attached.
Any advice?
Thanks
Rob
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:42:42 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
Duell) wrote:
> Sure, it;s the HP9866A
>
> ...
Amazing what can be done in 32 bytes...
>>> You know full well that financial value is not a reason for collecting
>>> something.
>> Unfortunately that is not the case for those transatlantic gentlemen who
>> spend their time on eBay buying "rare gold computer chips" for insane
>> amounts of money, driving up the prices for the rest of us :-(
> Yes, you're right, there are some people who appear to collect as an
> investment. Personally I think there arre safer things to invest your
> money in, and I think that classic computer hardware is much more
> interesting when it is put into operation.
>
Oh, absolutely, why can't they just collect gold or something and leave
the old cameras, computers and so on to those who actually take an
interest in the things.
/Jonas
Anyone interested in an AT&T 6300?
Got one with monitor, keyboard and printer. Did have a full set of
manuals, but someone bought those.
If no response by tomorrow, I'll consider it e-junk.
--Chuck
Hello,
Before discarding my good ol' Nixdorf laptop I thought I would check if
anyone would like to have it. I is pretty heavy (18 lb), so mailing it would
not be cheap, but I live in the Dallas area should there be a collector
nearby.
Please let me know what you think.
Thank you,
Tiina Fallini, MA
ATA Certified
Translator and Interpreter
English <> Finnish
<mailto:tiina at finntrans.com> tiina at finntrans.com
<http://www.finntrans.com/> www.FinnTrans.com
817.399.0246 (CST)
On 9/11/11 5:46 PM, "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> wrote:
> Philip Pemberton wrote:
>> - Pace ST50 + TD100. Seems about the same as the WJS100, but will
>> run the tweezer handpiece and a wider variety of bits. Catch is, I'd
>> have to special-order this from Pace UK if I wanted the ISB option
>> (Farnell don't stock the ISB "cubby" / iron stand).
>
> Well, I can't say enough good things about the second hand Pace ST45 that
> I use. A real joy.
>
> Bill
I'm pleased with the Hakko 936 I use for most of my soldering. The temp
control has been very accurate and I've been using the heck out of it for
the last few years. It is better in some ways than the $500+ hot air and
iron rework station that I have.
Clearing out; a few items for sale. Remainders posted on ebay next week.
Photos at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31439100 at N05/sets/72157627525411857/
Location: Metro-west Boston, MA US, ship from 01888
Check/MO preferred, ppal if most convenient
- DEC SCSI Y cable BN21V-0B Rev A02
No dings, dents, bent pins
$25 + ship (~14 oz)
- Book, new condition: Alpha Implementations and Architecture
1996 Digital Press
ISBN: 1-55558-130-7
39.95 sticker on the back, probably from SoftPro MA if they weren't closed
by then
$15 + ship (~1.5 lb padded envelope or box, std or media mail--your call)
- Konexx Koupler, Acoustic Coupler
Works, great cosmetic shape: functional or for collector
This is the early blue unit--"patent pending"
Used to use this when traveling in odd spots, worked well at a speedy 2400
These are apparently still made by Konexx
http://www.konexx.com/
$30 + ship (~14 oz)
- Adaptec 1740A EISA SCSI card
Worked when shelved long ago, manual may be around
eisa descriptor files--on your own
$0 + shipping costs (<1 lb)
- HP 1630D Logic Analyzer
Used (really), working, old critter so I won't guaranty a lifespan
This was two different units--last of the spares. The power supply was
repaired at some point--usual fuse holder wall bang among other things.
The
new fuse holder is mounted to the chassis rather than the power board, but
is connected with insulated terminals allowing easy removal of the board.
Has the most recent ROMs I had in stock.
One set of flying leads, full row so you can use as either state or timing
The leads are passive, thus you can make additional sets.
I really am not interested in shipping this--getting larges boxes, etc.
$20 local pickup, or possibly delivery for nominal $.
- Sony SDT-S9000 External DAT DDS3 12/24 Tape unit
Excellent shape. No spare media--shredder, have a cleaning tape or two.
Same unit posted a few months ago that a few interested folks never
followed up on.
AMP ends, includes a terminator, let me know if you need a cable and what
ends (nominal$)
$25 + shipping (~6 lb)
--Jim
Lately I've been wanting to do RS232 stuff with my laptop instead of
desktop machine. Would someone please recommend a good USB-to-RS232
converter?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Hi guys,
I've just acquired a HP 7470A in a lot with some other gear, and it
seems the rubber paper feed rollers have deteriorated somewhat. They've
acquired a gummy consistency, and are covered in flat spots...
Has anyone managed to find a source of replacement rollers, or a way to
repair those installed in the plotter?
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
I'm having a clear out, so before this goes to the recycling, does
anyone want any of it? Free for collection!
All in the UK (South Northants / North Oxon, nr Banbury OX17) or could
get them to London in the next week, or York/Manchester next month.
As far as I know everything worked, but it's been a long time since I
used most things so no warranty. If you want to know anything more,
just ask and I'll do my best.
Serial I/O
Advantech PCL841 Dual-port CAN card ISA16
Dual RS232 (DB25) ISA8
Dual RSRSR (DE9) ISA8
Analog-Digital
Arcom PCAD12/17H ADC ISA8 (RS P/N 255610)
NICs
Intel PRO/100 NIC PCI
Intel PRO/100S NIC PCI
3Com 3C900 NIC PCI
3Com 3C905 NIC PCI
Sound
Creative Soundblaster 128 PCI
Soundblaster MIDI cable w/ Sequencer Plus software (5.25"+3.5")
CPU
ASUS P2B-S ATX Slot 1 motherboard w/ U2 SCSI
+ Slot 1 / Socket 370 adapter + Celeron 900MHz + fan
+ RAM
Thermaltake fan for Socket 370
Celeron 366MHz
Arctic Alpine64 fan for Socket 939
Video
Matrox Millennium G200 8MB AGP
Elephant EC-DS3-4 S3 Virge VGA PCI
Newer gadgets
BudgeTone-100 SIP phone
iRiver H320 20GB player
USB-to-IDE44 adapter incl power supply
Software
AutoCad R10 incl manuals, dongle & tablet overlay
Autodesk Autosketch V1.02 (5.25")
Drives
IBM Ultrastar IC35L018UWPR15-0 U3SCSI 18GB 15krpm
2 x IBM DDRS-34560 U2SCSI 4.5GB 10krpm
OS/2
OS/2 2.1
OS/2 Warp 3
OS/2 Warp 4
C/Set++ 2.1
KASE:Set
Novaback
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
I have Timeworks Desktop Publisher for Atari ST (docs and disks) and Amiga
Textcraft (docs only) that I need to get rid of. Free for shipping from
93306. Weighs 5 pounds.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
It looks like the power supply to my decstation 5000/120 is shot. The
storage expansion, which is connected to the the switched C13 on the
power supply, powered up as expected but nothing on the box itself.
There was a bit of a smell, but no magic smoke :) So how hard is it to
repair a power supply for this? My soldering skills are mediocre at
best. Should I bite the bullet and turn it into this monstrosity:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041210172801/http://www.xanthos.se/~joachim/DS…
Its really not been my week with my DEC equipment. I almost hesitate to
power up my vaxes!
Brian
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:03:24 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
Duell) wrote:
> That/'s why, incidentally, in a couple of days time I am demonstating
> a printer that's almost 40 years old, taking it apart to show the
> internals, nnd describing the intricacies of the control system (it's
> beautiful, and to think the ROM is only 32 bytes long...)
Please tell us which one :-)
> You know full well that financial value is not a reason for collecting
> something.
Unfortunately that is not the case for those transatlantic gentlemen who
spend their time on eBay buying "rare gold computer chips" for insane
amounts of money, driving up the prices for the rest of us :-(
/Jonas
>>> I definitely have the Percom LFD-400, still working, in my SWTPC 6800. Nice to see another fan/user here. Chris
Hi Chris. Sorry if this is redundant, but, are you new to our list? If so, then please introduce yourself. Interests, how you found out about us, location, etc. -- thanks.
On Friday (09/09/2011 at 02:00PM -0400), Bill Sudbrink wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody have a copies of the October and November 1979 issues
> of Kilobaud Microcomputing that they would be willing to scan an
> article from? I can't seem to find on the net anywhere. I would
> like to read:
>
> Thoughts on the SWTP computer system. Part 6. A close look at three
> of the six disk systems that are available for the SWTP. They are:
> LFD-400 from Percom, BFD-68 from Smoke Signal Broadcasting and MF-68
> from SWTP.
> KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #34 Oct 1979 pg. 30
>
> Thoughts on the SWTP computer system. Part 6 (continued). An in-depth
> look at the Percom LFD-400 disk system.
> KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #35 Nov 1979 pg. 86
>
> Maybe also, this if you are feeling generous:
>
> Product review of Percom's LFD-400 floppy disk system for the SS-50 bus.
> KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #26 Feb 1979 pg. 80
I'm not sure if I have the KILOBAUD issues-- I will check-- but I
definitely have the Percom LFD-400, still working, in my SWTPC 6800.
Nice to see another fan/user here.
Chris
--
Chris Elmquist
I'm sure most of you are probably aware of my DiscFerret disc analyser
project:
http://www.discferret.com
The Cliff Notes: it's an enhanced, ground-up-re-engineered
Catweasel-type disc analyser, with a USB interface, more accurate data
sampling, and ST-506 disc support (with an adapter board). All the
design files and source code can be downloaded freely from the website
above, and are licensed under OSI-Compliant open-source licenses.
I'm doing another hardware production run in the next week or so. I have
25 blank PCBs ready to assemble, and parts arriving on Monday to
assemble them.
For extra bonus points, I managed to get a good deal on the power
supplies -- these are now ?5 cheaper while stocks last!
Prices are:
- Fully assembled and tested unit, no cables or PSU: ?139
- Cable kit -- supports up to two drives, 3.5 or 5.25-inch, PC- or
Shugart-style (34 pin edge connector or pin header). Power is supplied
>from the DiscFerret. Add ?10
- Power supply - add ?22.50
- Shipping -- fully tracked and insured!
UK mainland -- ?7.50
Europe -- ?15
USA -- ?17.50
Unfortunately there's not a lot I can do about the international
shipping charges... I'm looking into alternatives...
To order -- email me at philpem at philpem.me.uk, and I'll send you an
invoice for the total. Payment is via PayPal, or BACS / Faster Payments
transfer (the latter for UK customers only).
Thanks!
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
On 9/9/2011 11:00 AM, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody have a copies of the October and November 1979 issues
> of Kilobaud Microcomputing that they would be willing to scan an
> article from? I can't seem to find on the net anywhere. I would
> like to read:
>
> Thoughts on the SWTP computer system. Part 6. A close look at three
> of the six disk systems that are available for the SWTP. They are:
> LFD-400 from Percom, BFD-68 from Smoke Signal Broadcasting and MF-68
> from SWTP.
> KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #34 Oct 1979 pg. 30
>
> Thoughts on the SWTP computer system. Part 6 (continued). An in-depth
> look at the Percom LFD-400 disk system.
> KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #35 Nov 1979 pg. 86
>
> Maybe also, this if you are feeling generous:
>
> Product review of Percom's LFD-400 floppy disk system for the SS-50 bus.
> KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #26 Feb 1979 pg. 80
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
>
scanning now. I'll send direct when done.
steve
Hi,
Does anybody have a copies of the October and November 1979 issues
of Kilobaud Microcomputing that they would be willing to scan an
article from? I can't seem to find on the net anywhere. I would
like to read:
Thoughts on the SWTP computer system. Part 6. A close look at three
of the six disk systems that are available for the SWTP. They are:
LFD-400 from Percom, BFD-68 from Smoke Signal Broadcasting and MF-68
>from SWTP.
KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #34 Oct 1979 pg. 30
Thoughts on the SWTP computer system. Part 6 (continued). An in-depth
look at the Percom LFD-400 disk system.
KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #35 Nov 1979 pg. 86
Maybe also, this if you are feeling generous:
Product review of Percom's LFD-400 floppy disk system for the SS-50 bus.
KILOBAUD MICROCOMPUTING #26 Feb 1979 pg. 80
Thanks,
Bill
I AM FORWARDING A MESSAGE FROM A GUY WHO HAS SOME PROJECT WORK. I
BELIEVE HE WILL BE WILLING TO PAY FOR SERVICE. IF INTERESTED CONTACT
ME DIRECTLY AND I WILL FORWARD REPLIES TO JOHN
"..I have a TELEX from the 70s (it was used when I bought it) that I
last used in business in 1993. The motor runs but I can't get it to
work. So, I need someone who can get it back into working order;
although I won't be hooking it up to a Western Union line (if that is
even possible today).
I also want to be able to use it as a printer for my laptop. In
addition, I have a Swiss NEMA machine (the Swiss update of the German
Enigma crypto machine). It has output to a teletypewriter and I would
love to see if my TELEX could be hooked up to it.
I live in Ojai, CA, which is 36 miles South of Santa Barbara.
Thanks, John Fickewirth .."
END FORWARDED MESSAGE
thanks
Bill
I'll just leave this here.
--Toby
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Original Lisa 1 for sale
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Shapiro <eric at shapiro.org>
Reply-To: lisalist at googlegroups.com
To: LisaList <lisalist at googlegroups.com>
Just finished restoring my Lisa 1. Comes with original software...
most still shrink wrapped! Boots, runs, works. Updated with
refurbished power supply, logic board, hard drive (X/Profile in
addition, so it will run from flash drive, if desired). Twiggy drives,
of course.
Just trying to gauge if this is of interest to anyone. Last one sold
on eBay in January for $15,000.
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>
>I went to fire up my DEC Personal Workstation 500au the other day and it
>doesn't boot up any more :(
>
>I don't get anything out of video or the serial console and the
>diagnostic lights all go out (00) rather than displaying an error or
>booting message. The battery in it was dead and I replaced it but to no
>avail.
>
>Anybody come across this before and know how to fix it?
>
I don't know much about the DEC Personal Workstation 500au but...
Did the battery leak? I have a VAXStation 2000 which had a leaky battery
which did some damage on the system board. (Fortunately, it was not severe
and it is now repaired.) Check around the battery and near where the battery
is connected to the system board as electrolyte can wick along the leads.
Does it beep? I'm not sure about this one but some alphas will emit beep
codes, if they fail before being able to access the console and some of the
codes may be explained in the manual.
Presumably there are some signs of life such as fans running and/or lights
lighting? The next step is probably to check that the power supply is producing
all the required voltages. Maybe there is a label specifying what they should
be :-) Maybe not :-(
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I have a pair of Olivetti Underwood 288s (10-key 7 digit input, 8 digit
output adding machines), one of which I got from list member Patrick
Finnegan a couple of years ago, and one which I found in a local thrift
store this summer. Finding the second one inspired me to try to get them
working... and I am rather out of my depth.
The only electrical part (the AC induction motor that powers the
mechanism) works fine in both, but both have other, mechanical issues.
I've run them some under electrical power and spent a lot more time slowly
turning the mechanism by hand, trying to work out what it's doing.
Both have 'sticky digits', i.e. the mechanism that both rotates the type
wheels into the correct position during the print part of the cycle and
then is added to the accumulator in the accumulate part of the cycle
doesn't move freely and thus doesn't print and doesn't accumulate the
correct totals. One also has sticky pins in the input register and the
other doesn't seem to carry at all and has a sticky 'leading zero
suppression' mechanism.
First and foremost, the oil in both machines has congealed into a sticky
mess. I clearly need to replace it, but I have no idea what to replace it
with. I suspect that it's something similar to what's used to lube
typewriters, given that they were built by typewriter companies using
typewriter-inspired mechanisms?
Second, I have no idea how to take them apart correctly. I've successfully
gotten the covers off, but I can't even get the ribbon holder/winding
assembly off since it's linked to a mechanism that's supposed to lift it
to switch from black to red ink, and I can't find a way to safely
disengage them... I've also tried to remove the platen cylinder, but the
ribbon holder is in the way of the retaining screws. The only other things
I can obviously remove at this point are return springs that hold various
levers/cams in place, but I can't see how that would help me remove
anything behind them, and all of the cams seem to be maually aligned on
their axles, held in the correct position by the same screws that would
need to be removed to take the axles out. Ease of service does not seem to
have been a design goal in these machines :-/
My inability to disassemble them is doubly problematic since parts of the
mechanism are buried behind so much other stuff that I can't see what
they're doing, and there are parts that I can't seem to get to move using
any combination of front panel inputs... there's one bit that I've found a
way to reset (subtracting) but not a way to set using normal inputs... and
I don't see any way of actuating the ink-color-swithcing mechanism.
Does anyone have experience with anything similar that would be able to
offer advice? I'd be glad to make photos and my reverse-engineering notes
available...
They are fascinating machines (the whole accumulator rotates around
backwards to subtract!), but I am afraid of damaging them with my clumsy
attempts at repair. Since I have two, I guess I can muddle along by trial
and error, but I would really love to hear from someone that's worked on a
similar device before.
Alexey
For the Memorex at 50 events next month we are looking for a few old Memorex
or Memorex-Telex terminals from the middle 1980s; in particular, the Model
1377 and/or any Model in the 2000 series.
We can pay for packaging and shipping.
We would then like to offer them to the Computer History Museum for its
permanent collection or we can return them after the events
Tom
+1 650.941.5324
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 18:55:44 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
Duell) wrote:
>> >> > An AR88 (RCA communcations receiver)
>> >> You *carried* an AR88 on a train??? They weigh, what, 45 kgs? You
>> >> must
>> >
>> > Well, I didn't hold it for the netire journey, if that's what you
>> > mean.
>> > It sat on the luggage rack between Bristol and London...
>>
>> I hope not the overhead rack? I certainly wouldn't like to take an
>
> No, fortuanely not. It was one of those '125' trains, with the
> luggage
> racks at the ends of the carriages. it went there, on a shelf of a
> suitable height.
>
*Phew*
>> AR-88 down from an overhead luggage rack, let alone putting it up
>> there,
>> and certainly not having it fall out if something happened...
>> Brrr...
>
> Knowing the cosntruction of modern trains, an AR88 would prboably go
> straight through the flooe :-)
>
I bet. There is interesting reading at www.raib.gov.uk
>> > I am insulted! I have spent my entire life avoiding exercise, and
>> I
>> > don't
>> > intend changing that. I have never done any uncnessary exercise.
>> >
>>
>> No offence meant! :-)
>
> Actually, I assuemd you'd seen at last one photo of me on the web
> (thre's
> one on the HPCC wrbsite in last year's confernce photos [1]), which
> should indicate that I am truely a high mass hobbyist :-)
>
Yes, I have seen your photo, which is why I wondered about the
"carrying" bit... ;-)
However I might have done something as crazy as actually carry an AR88
onto a train myself, even though I have never worked out myself either
previously (I have to now, my back is too painful otherwise owing to
many years of working at a computer in badly conceived workplaces. A
herniated disc and a doctor finally convinced me exercise was the
only way to not be in constant severe pain).
45 kg is really heavy...
/Jonas
Howdy,
Anybody happen to have (or know where) I can find documentation on a Clearpoint SNXRAM VME board?
I've tried Googling for it, but no luck. I've got one and would like to add it to my Sun 3/110.
(which I finally got booting after a lot of work finding all of the bad ram on the motherboard)
Wondered if anybody happened to have info, esp. for the configuration jumpers (I can get it to "add" 6MB, but
suspect it might be overlapped with the motherboard ram... that, or it has a bad chip or two... [which are sadly soldered on...] )
Want to make sure I've got it set up right before I EVEN BEGIN to think about attempting to debug the chips on it... :-)
Earl
Incredible opportunity here for someone. Wish I could take it.
--T
> Hello All,
>
> I have an 11/730 with the following bits:
>
> Out by themselves:
> * H7140 (power supply?)
> * RL02
> * a faceplate with two tape/cart drives
>
> In the cabinet:
> * RL02
> * CPU (it also says "DMF32 distribution panel" on the back)
> * R80
>
> I also have a VT220 terminal.
>
> I don't know anything about VAXes but it was running when last powered
> down about 15 years ago. I was given it by a friend I helped with
> some IT consulting.
>
> I have pictures I can make available. The system is in Greenville SC
> and will be given away to the first person who can come pick it all
> up.
>
> It has to go ASAP so don't waste time thinking I will still have it in
> a month. It will be scrapped. :-(
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Peter.
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.sys.dec/YhM5idkpF9U/discussion
From today's (August 24) Wall Street Journal front page:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903596904576516552161014410.h…
Written as a bit of a puff piece, but interesting nonetheless, given
the national reach of the WSJ. It might (though I doubt it) spur a
few Wall Street types to take a keener interest in retro gear, making
things dearer and harder for us homie hobbyists to acquire. :)
Kudo's to Ian (King) and Rich (Alderson), et al.
-- Jared
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:21:32 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
Duell) wrote:
>> > An AR88 (RCA communcations receiver)
>> You *carried* an AR88 on a train??? They weigh, what, 45 kgs? You
>> must
>
> Well, I didn't hold it for the netire journey, if that's what you
> mean.
> It sat on the luggage rack between Bristol and London...
I hope not the overhead rack? I certainly wouldn't like to take an
AR-88 down from an overhead luggage rack, let alone putting it up there,
and certainly not having it fall out if something happened... Brrr...
But even carrying it *to* the train wouldn't be particularly fun, with
a cart or trolley I might consider it.
>
>> work out a lot...
>
> I am insulted! I have spent my entire life avoiding exercise, and I
> don't
> intend changing that. I have never done any uncnessary exercise.
>
No offence meant! :-)
> The only 'working out' I do is how to fix classic computers (etc),
> how to
> design bits of electronics, and so on.
>
>
>> I used to have a BC-312M. I really regret having got rid of it. That
>> was
>> a nice piece of equipment.Not quite as heavy as the AR88 but quite
>> heavy
>> enough to break your foot if you dropped it on one of them. The foot
>> would be severely damaged but not the BC-312M...
>
> And that's the way it should be. You foot will mend itself, the
> receiver
> will not
>
Hmm, I'm not sure there would be a lot left of my foot to mend if a
BC-312 fell on it from any height...
/Jonas
I am moving (locally) in a few weeks. I've just started packing and,
with much less success, trying to figure out what doesn't need to move
with me. First off the pile are two large,
old CRTs:
Sun GDM1962B (http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/sun/gdm1962b.html)
SGI CM2086A3SG
The Sun has a 13W3 connector and is probably contemporary to the first
Sparcstation line. The SGI has 3 BNCs and the *old* logo, which
probably means it went with the Personal Iris era of SGI. That almost
makes it collectable to me but...no. No CRTs for me. At least not
for machines that can me made to work with an LCD.
They're free for pickup if you happen to be in the area (60074.) No
way I will ship these.
--
jht
Finally pulled out the TRS-80 Model II tonight with the intention of
actually working on it for once (shocker!) and trying to get it operational.
It powers up, drive spins, screen comes on, lights glow, etc. Insert
any one of about 20 8" floppies that I have that are specifically for
the Model Ii and.....
Nothing. Well. BOOT ERROR RS, which is translated as, "Disk not in
RadioShack format."
I'd believe it for one or two, but all of them? It seems unlikely,
although I could blame bit-rot perhaps. I'm hoping it has something to
do with the hardware instead.
Popping it open, the unit powers on and the drive head is dropped to the
spinning disk, then lifted, then dropped, then lifted, and the error
occurs. I cannot see if the head is close enough to the disk or not
(and I have *no* idea of the tolerances anyway) and am not sure how I'd
adjust it -- or drive speed, etc. if that's an issue.
So, anyone got ideas? There *is* a remote possibility that all the
disks I got were wiped either by the previous owner or in some sort of
magnetic disaster, but they're well-labeled and came from a working
haul, so I have to imagine that they're still good. Or at least, I'm
hoping they are. (The bits are damned near visible on these things,
after all.)
Your ideas and good guesses welcome and very much appreciated.
Nathan
--
*Nathan E. Pralle*
Computer Geek
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