- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

Well, I myself an a fellow shipmate stationed at Groton, Connecticut. As hard as it seems to believe, I have only been in since August the 10th. > At the moment, I have a bit of an identity crisis going on. >I'm Navy working on an Air Force base and am supposed to be working >supply but currently work for the IS Dept. because they needed >another person, especially one with Mac skills. Just 3 more years >and I can 'retire' from Navy life and move on! I know i've seen at >least one other .MIL address post to this list at some point though. > > Jeff > >P.S. what's your background since you obviously know something about >Navy rates? >-- > Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems: > Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File > http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. "Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82 ____________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Anyone ever heard of...

by vcf＠siconic.com

Anyone ever heard of a Data General machine from the 70s with the model designation CS-20 or CS-30? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Brag Brag Brag

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Hi all I went back to the place where I got the HX-40 and got... An HP 150 II a PET 4016 a Kaypro 2X a busted TRS8- 100 but with a good screen so I can fix the one from yesterday a printer for the TI 59 Books Books and more books a number of sextan magazine An IBM AT Keyboard with unusual color (Brown and the IBM logo is Black) Various Atari Joysticks and softwares an ET 3300 unbuilt (not quite the 3400 but good anyway) Lots of miscelaneous odds and ends like a sperry univac front pannel I'm going back for a few Z100 and MAC stuff that I have not yet started to look at They also had a Compaq portable II with the cloth carrying bag, load of printers and monitors What looks like a PDP 11 clone, bunch od apple II cales new in the box and super serial cards never opened. Terminals, VAX 3100, some SUN stuff. That's all I can remember for now. Francois

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uVAX II Memory Board

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>Anyone have any idea how hard it would be to build a box with a DIMM in it >that looked like an RL02? > > Zane I know how but it would take at least three more rounds with the flu to convince me of the sanity of doing it.. Consider this both RL02 and ESDI both use a SERIAL data path with a FORMAT defined but standard and the media. Thats a hell of a lot of trouble to go to when disks in the 32mb and smaller range are easy to find. Sure you get to use existing drivers but you have put a immense amount of time in the emulating of the disk so it interfaces. To ing it right, and simpler would be sothing like a DRV11 and a couple of simms add to that the glue to do refresh and battery back up and you done. Then you need a driver. Allison

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transfer HD disk to DD

by Miniminstrels＠aol.com

Can you tell me hoe to copy a HD disk tp a DD disk so that I can use it in my PSR6000 ? Marlene.

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Can anyone identify this board?

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

At the top right under 2 red toggles, and LED's is Model no. MPC-75 675001 issue a serial no. 055 date 10 82 on the bottom right are AIR LAND SYSTEMS and 2 pins labelled spkr terms. The bottom is 2 groups of 22 pins the first group has a break between pins 7-8 and the second group between 13-14 A PROM1 is labelled NTRKBD .101-1-1.2683 in pencil on the top left below a 25 pin connector with 2 missing in the centre. On the left edge is CCA 94V0 8-82 card is about 10" by 7" the pins groups are 3.5" with a 1.25" gap

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CS/20 and CS/30

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

The CS/20 and CS/30 are microNOVA based machines, I can't speak for the CS/30 but the CS/20 dates to 1978... I'm not at all surprised that he would have bought it through Intel, during the late 70's and early 80's Intel was making memory boards for DG machines and also for PDP-11's, both Qbus and Unibus. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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uVAX II Memory Board

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Actually you've got me thinking there. Considering that RAM is dirt >cheap these days. I'm wondering what it would take to build a RL02 drive >that is actually a RAM disk (of course you'd be able to fit several disks >on one stick of RAM), and what kind of performance you'd get. Off course >I'm not a hardware type, so I don't know how hard that would be. Hmmm... don't the MS630/MS650 boards simply get power from the bus, and memory transactions are over the PMI cable? If so, then what about some sort of Qbus option which looks like a disk, but has a connector on it so that it connects to the MS6xx board... ready-made memory farm which could be used as a disk... (And don't some of the boards come in 16mb and 32mb flavors?) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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uVAX II Memory Board

by mbg＠world.std.com

No, it won't show up on the bus. All transactions on that board occur over the cable interconnect. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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FS: IBM PS/2 model 55SX with Procom IDE interface

by russ＠rbcs.8m.com

A friend of mine paid out $15 for a PS/2 8555, or model 55SX thinking it was PCI interfaces (newby, doesn't know what microchannel is). Anyway I told him that it was microchannel and NOT to put any PCI's in it, which he was smart enough to heed. I looked the unit over and it has a Procom IDE hard drive interface and is a complte main unit. Of course it doesn't have the monitor, keyboard or mouse but is otherwise a complete main unit with hard drive, floppy, token ring card and memory and (of course) has built-in serial, parallel, video, mouse and keyboard ports. I believe it runs a 386SX-16 processor and has a coprocessor socket as well. It uses 72 pin SIMMs as well, has 2mb in it now. Cosmetically it's in really good condition as well. Now that he knows it isn't suitable for his needs he wants to get what he has into it - the $15 (plus shipping of about 18-20 lbs). Anyone out there want a 55SX that you can adapt more than the standard 55SX? I'll be cleaning and testing it this weekend and if there are no firm repsonses by next Friday I'll toss it on eBay to see what it gets. Email me direct at rhblake(a)bigfoot.com if you have questions or wish to put a firm hold on it for yourself. First come, first served.

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>If I remember correctly, the Pentium came out around 1993, about four >years after the 486 came out around 1989. If the engineering, design and >technical capability that led to the Pentium had been around in 1980, the >technical superiority that the PDP-11 enjoyed over the PC might have >pushed DEC hard enough to upgrade the PDP-11 systems. Ah, is that hit on the head healing or is the ethanol talking... DEC did improve the PDP-11. Back in the 70s they created the VAX and just when pentium getting remotely close there was Alpha. >For commercial systems, operation at the high end can also be >compared in favour of E11. With a fast Pentium III and E11, >running PDP-11 software is less expensive and faster than with >the fastest PDP-11 hardware. E11 may be good and all but it runs on PCs and their record for reliability is not that of a native PDP-11... yet! >But back to my original question and Zane's response plus the low >price of memory. Might it be possible to design and produce a >Qbus board which uses memory as the disk and have an interface >like the HD: on E11 rather than MSCP? Considering that from >the lack of a response on my original question in regard to the >use of the 8 MByte of memory, it may be just as easy to start >from scratch. By the way, on the "Full" commercial E11, the >command is: "MOUNT HD0: RAM:/SIZE:bytes" >and HD0: can be replaced by any of the emulated drives as well. Nonrotataing didks for PDP-11s are really old news, seems EMC and AMPEX were names I remember. Allison

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EPSON HC-41 mystery solved...

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Hi all, I got today an EPSON HX-40. it looks exactly like the HC-41 that I've been wondering about. It seems like the hc-41 is a OEM'd version of the HX-40 with a different keyboard. The HC-41 I have was used to control a CNC machine of some sort. Pretty cool.... Francois PS: I also scored a TRS80 100, a pair of COCO joystics a lisa mouse new in the box and a bunch of magazines: popular electronics Nov 1975 with an article about the Altair 680 and a bunch of Remark (one with the introduction of the hero 2000) Oh and a diagnostic cart for the COCO too.

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> Isn't the max memory in a MicroVAX II 13 MB? Mine has 1 MB >on the CPU board, an 8 MB board, and a 4 MB board and it is my >understanding that this is maxed out. No, 16mb If you use two 8mb boards it disables the onboard 1mb. Allison

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Al Gross RIP

by lgwalker＠look.ca

Al Gross, the Toronto-born man many call the "father of wireless communication," has died at age 82. "If you have a cordless telephone or a cellular telephone or a walkie talkie or beeper," Gross once said, "you've got one of my patents." He added that if his patents on those technologies hadn't run out in 1971, "Bill Gates would have to stand aside for me." http://canadacomputes.com/v3/story/1,1017,5603,00.html Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

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Oops! Almost forgot...

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

In addition to the books I posted earlier: Make it an even $10.00, and I'll throw in a reference manual and product data book for the Nmos 'Transputer.' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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VAX Books available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

First person to send me $8.50 (that's $5 for the books and $3.50 Priority Mail) gets the following. 1986: VAX Architecture Handbook. 1982: Programming in VAX-11 'C' PayPal works great. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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Shugart SA850/851 8" floppy drive

by dan.kuse＠lmco.com

We have a collection of test programs stored on 8" floppies which were part of a Fairchild F70 PCB tester. We're trying to convert them to be read by a PC. A field Eng. from Schumberger (who took over the Fairchild tester line) tells me the 8" drive was a Shugart SA850/851. We need to know the format information. We have a couple of old 8" drives, but can't seem to make out the format. I noticed in one of the emails that you mentioned a SA850 manual. Does the manual contain information regarding the disk format? If so, is there anyway we could get a copy of the manual? Any information you could give would appreciated. Thanks Dan Kuse Lockheed Martin NE & SS - Mitchel Field Mail Station C3-002 55 Charles Lindbergh Blvd. Uniondale, NY 11553 Voice: 516-228-2809 Fax: 516-228-3040

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Posted on E-pay...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 3, Bruce Lane wrote: > Sound for the day: Sploog. Hey, I made that sound earlier today! -Dave McGuire

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Posted on E-pay...

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Ok... I've taken the "Toss it to the Wolves" approach, and posted an HP 88780 SCSI 9-tracker on E-pay. If anyone's even remotely interested, it's at this link. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212301804 Don't have a clue if this will help find it a home, but I started it off at $25.00, no reserve, with the caveat that it is heavy and that shipping would probably be costly. It's also a Diff-SCSI interface, which may cause grief for some folks. Sound for the day: Sploog. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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Old SGI's?!

by LFessen106＠aol.com

Can anyone on the list help me out with my SGI's? I made a trade a trade for 2 Personal Iris 4D/35's. Cool lookin' computers, however, I have a few problems..... Neither one has a KB, Mouse or Monitor, and although a decent SVGA works fine, I can't for the life of me find the KB/Mouse for these anywhere (they have the ps2 style connector, but are *not* ps2 compatable). After hooking them up to a Dumb Terminal I find that they both work (at least up to the prom) and 1 actually will boot into Irix 4.0.2... The other has no detectable OS. The one that *does* boot to Irix has a root password that I don't have (of course). Is there any way to gain root access on that machine other than removing the drive and mounting it on another box to change the passwd / crack it? After I do actually get the one box running can I somehow transfer the OS >from one to the other? I read somewhere there was a prom command to duplicate hard drives??? Is there someone on the list willing to part with an old copy of Irix? These machines will only run up to 5.0.3 I think.. Anyone have a spare KB/Mouse for these machines? I can run them (when I get them working) from a Dumb Terminal, but would rather experience the famous SGI GUI. Any other hints / tips / suggestions would be greatly appreciated! -Linc F.

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FW: TRS-80 Magazines

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I got the following message from someone. Can we help him out?? Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas J Leon [mailto:nicholas@binary9.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32 AM > To: rcini(a)msn.com > Subject: TRS-80 Magazines > > Greetings! > > I am currently trying to prove that I am the author of an old TRS-80 > program that someone else has taken credit for, Bullet-80. > > At one point, in the early 80's, I was written up in a small magazine (not > Compute, not Byte, something smaller) for this. Unfortunately it was 20 > years ago and I can't remember what the magazine was. > > When you are looking through all your old stuff, could you do me a favor > and keep an eye out for my name? (And the name of Joe Simon, too). At the > time I was 13-years-old and living in Wilton, CT. > > Your help in this would be much appreciative. > > Thank you!! > > --------------------------------------------------------- nicholas j leon > [personal web] http://nicholasjleon.com > [email ] sig(a)nicholasjleon.com > [work ] Eagle Design & Management > [work web ] http://www.aerie.com > [work email ] nicholas(a)aerie.com > [pgp ] http://nicholasjleon.com/plan.txt > [top secret > messenger ] http://nicholasjleon.com/mypublic.tsm > --------------------------------------------------------- elegance through > Proud resident of Greensboro, NC simplicity > >

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Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >There are *updates* to 7.5 (like 7.5.1, etc) that are freely > >available from Apple's sites, but I've never seen 7.5 itself > >freely available for download. > > I only have a direct link to the Swedish version of 7.5.3, but there are a lot > of English versions. Let me have a look. > Hmm, here is a truncated link to version 7.0.1: > ftp://ftp.apple.com ... > /System/Older_System/System_7.0.x/System_7.0.1.smi.bin > Ah yes, here is 7.5.3: > http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11346 > > It's just a matter of looking around, or perhaps reading > Pickle's classic Mac > FAQ. Try to have a look at http://www.lowendmac.com/. I think you're missing my point. System 7.5 was a retail-boxed version of MacOS, as was System 7.1, and NEITHER of them are available for free download. The last version of MacOS that was available for free download was OS 7.0.1. Everything else that's available is an UPDATE, and CAN NOT be used for a fresh install. You can't, for example, install System 7.5.3 on a Macintosh UNLESS it already has 7.5 or 7.5.1. Respectfully, -doug quebbeman

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uVAX II Memory Board

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, Jeff Hellige wrote: > Isn't the max memory in a MicroVAX II 13 MB? Mine has 1 MB > on the CPU board, an 8 MB board, and a 4 MB board and it is my > understanding that this is maxed out. No, the MicroVAX-II maxes out at 16mb (two 8mb boards). In that configuration, the 1mb of onboard memory is disabled. -Dave McGuire

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uVAX II Memory Board

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote: > Aren't the 4MB MicroVAX I boards the same as a 4MB MicroVAX II board? I've > never even seen a MicroVAX I, so I really don't have a clue on this. Nope, not even close. -Dave McGuire

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uVAX II Memory Board

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I have an interesting question. Can this board be used as additional ram in a PDP-11? If so, how might it be done? I have a Qbus Memory board that must be from a uVAX II - M7609-AP with 288 (I hope I counted correctly) memory chips 4256L-15 8726255 A 21-22422-42 R with the standard male 50 pin header at the top to be connected to a uVAX CPU. If my arithmetic is normal, does this make it an 8 MByte memory? Now, I am no hardware expect, in fact about all I can do with a soldering iron is to plug it in and unplug it - before it gets too hot and I burn something. But, is there any way that a regular PDP-11/73 could see this memory and use it in some manner? Otherwise... I don't expect that anyone will want it, but if so, can I swap it for a regular PDP-11 Qbus memory of 4 MBytes? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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FYI: Byte #1-6 on Amazon Auctions

by vcf＠siconic.com

Someone is auctioning Byte #1-6 on Amazon's Auctions: http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/glance-browse/Y03X2790387X5434809/ix=aucti… Minimum bid is $40 (decent value) or buy it now for $125 (oi!) FYI Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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OT question: Military collectors?

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

How many people on this board are in the military? I already know that Jeff Helliage is a (no offense!) "Box Kicker" Second Class, but are there any others? ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/ Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. "Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82 ____________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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uVAX II Memory Board

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>I have an interesting question. Can this board be used as additional ram >in a PDP-11? If so, how might it be done? > >I have a Qbus Memory board that must be from a uVAX II - M7609-AP >with 288 (I hope I counted correctly) memory chips >4256L-15 8726255 A 21-22422-42 R with the >a standard male 50 pin header at the top to be connected to a uVAX >CPU. >If my arithmetic is normal, does this make it an 8 MByte memory? It's a microvax memory most likely. PDP-11 can address a maximum of 4mb. >But, is there any way that a regular PDP-11/73 could see this memory >and use it in some manner? No, it's not compatable. >I don't expect that anyone will want it, but if so, can I swap it for a regular >PDP-11 Qbus memory of 4 MBytes? That should be possible but I think the largest common memory board for PDP-11 Q-bus is 1MB. Allison

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uVAX II Memory Board

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, Jerome Fine wrote: > I have an interesting question. Can this board be used as additional ram > in a PDP-11? If so, how might it be done? > > I have a Qbus Memory board that must be from a uVAX II - M7609-AP > with 288 (I hope I counted correctly) memory chips > 4256L-15 8726255 > A 21-22422-42 R > with the standard male 50 pin header at the top to be connected to a uVAX > CPU. > > If my arithmetic is normal, does this make it an 8 MByte memory? It's an 8mb board, yes. And no, it won't work on a pdp11...the PMI (Private Memory Interconnect) connector at the top of the board is how it talks to the MicroVAX-II CPU, while [most] qbus pdp11 systems talk to their memory via Qbus. > I don't expect that anyone will want it, but if so, can I swap it for a regular > PDP-11 Qbus memory of 4 MBytes? I doubt you'll have much luck with this idea...MicroVAX-II memory boards are all over the place, while 4mb Qbus pdp11 memory bards are getting hard to find. Sorry if I busted your bubble... -Dave McGuire

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Umm. My ftp server (Wedding)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/2/01 8:40:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, THETechnoid(a)home.com writes: << Please FTP to 24.15.74.214 and try again with our thanks and my personal assurance that this problem is not likely to recur. >> i presume there's a classic computer involved somewhere to make this on topic? heh

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fw: classic answering machines

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> Hi folks, (2nd go - this time I won't press whatever I pressed last time > :) > > The following is a message from Julian Richardson > (JRichardson(a)softwright.co.uk) - he'd post it himself but for some reason > the list is bouncing his messages......any replies to him please. > > <cough> > <clears throat> > > ------------------------------------- subject: Any classic telecoms fanatics on the list? Not quite computing, but it hits the ten-year mark. Just think of it as a big tape drive ;) I've got an old reel-to-reel answering machine made by Ansafone which I'm trying to locate more information on (web searches turn up nothing useful and there don't seem to be any "classic" telecoms groups which I can find - if someone knows of one, let me know) I did come across a uk.telecom newsgroup which turned up one person who'd heard of the machine - he was quite helpful with connector info. Apparently the phone socket on the back of the machine (a big 6-pin round socket) is known as a "96a" type jack. It's the pin-outs for this which I'm really after... (plan is to try to hook this thing up to the phone network if I can; the phone system hasn't changed much - outwardly anyway - in years so hopefully it's still possible, providing our exchange still supports pulse as well as tone dialling) cheers, Jules ------------------------ > -- > Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP > C CAT Limited > Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) > <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) > <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum) "Ready" - a MTX500, yesterday.

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Fwd: Naked Mini Broke

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Sellam Ismail wrote: > Holy crap. Why is an aerospace company still using such an old-assed > computer? Anyway, I may be able to help them. ...after all, everybody knows "old" means "incapable of performing useful work"! *poke poke* -Dave McGuire

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Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Everything else that's available is an UPDATE, and CAN NOT > > be used for a fresh install. You can't, for example, install > > System 7.5.3 on a Macintosh UNLESS it already has 7.5 or 7.5.1. > > Not true, you can use it for 7.1 systems, *or* download the Network Access > disk to bring up a system with *no* System Folder on the HD, and then > start the installation. Since 7.1 was also a commercial release, that's not a surprise, but in that scenario, we're back to having to start with a purchased product and then upgrade it. But I confess I know nothing about this Network Access disk, and find it strange that Apple would let that one slip out the door... Or is this Network Access disk a third-party thing? =dq

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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > I think you're missing my point. > > > > System 7.5 was a retail-boxed version of MacOS, as was > > System 7.1, and NEITHER of them are available for free > > download. > > Two years ago, you would've been correct. Apple has released 7.5, for free > download, to their ftp site. This is the same FTP site that has all their > updates. Well, well, well... the first thing that his Steveness has done that I can agree with. That's what I get for losing interest two years ago... -dq

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AppleTalk On NeXT Cube

by mtapley＠swri.edu

>Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:29:08 -0600 >From: Owen Robertson <univac(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: > >I just got my NeXT Cube (Yeah!!!). It's running NeXTStep 3.3, and I am >trying to connect it to my AppleTalk network, via LocalTalk or Ethernet. >Could anyone help me? > >Thanks, >Owen http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html I've run the older version and the v.10 Beta with no problems, but YMMV. For me it works on my office's net and with just a crossover RJ-45 ethernet cable to my Mac Laptop. I'm also running NS 3.3 on an 040 Cube. - Mark

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Misc hardware avail

by oliv555＠arrl.net

Any listmembers interested in the following items which are about to be heaved as part of the annual cleanup at my workplace: (free; pickup only in the Houston area unless otherwise noted) - DEC BA23 enclosure, unpopulated, with RX50; badged MicroPDP11 - T.I. silent 700 mini data terminal w/plug-in cart (works) - VT100 logic boards (6) were spares for our VT100 fleet being scrapped - pickup or you-pay-shipping - I'm still trying to free up a SGI 1400 system (kbd mouse manuals and 19" industrial monitor). This is about the size of a BA123. If anyone is interested in this, let me know, I will try harder. Last years cleanup saw 8 cartons of PDP1145 core mem get heaved (I was on vacation and thought I had them safely stshed out-of-sight) Thats over 200 boards! Still pains me when I think about it. Any other interesting items that surface will be added to list. Email me your wants; shipping for single logic board, $4.20. Thanks. nick oliviero

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What is this system? [LONG]

by yoda＠isr.ist.utl.pt

Can anyone identify the system in the following picture?

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Goodies Available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

More stuff found while digging through the piles: HP88780 SCSI 9-track front-loading tape drive, with rack slides, DIFFERENTIAL SCSI interface. Tandem-badged, working when pulled out of service. NVRAM got cleared during checkout, so the front panel controls are now HP default instead of the Tandem labeling -- I can include a page from the 88780 manual describing the correct layout. One person can lift it if they're strong (it's slightly heavier than a Cipher F880 front-loader), but it would be -expensive- to ship. Prefer local pickup in Kent, WA, southeast of Seattle. $50.00 takes it. Three SysKonnect dual-port FDDI cards for EISA bus systems. Two are NOS/in their box, one is loose. $10.00 each, $25 for all three. Shippable. Condition: Probably work just fine, but I don't have any FDDI hardware to test them with. More to come as the swap meet draws close. Whatever I don't move here will be taken out to said swap. Remember the date and place: March 10th, Puyallup (Western Washington) Fairgrounds, Puyallup, WA (southeast of Tacoma). Enter through the Gold gate, and get there early! This is WA's biggest electronics/ham swap meet, and we usually see quite a line, people-wise. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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Fwd: Naked Mini Broke

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > >I'm a tech at United Space Alliance in Cape Canaveral Florida. I have a > > >Computer Automation LSI 2 computer that doesn't boot up and I'm not sure > > >why. We use this computer to run automated tests on the space shuttle Ku > > >band comm systems and need to get it fixed fairly quickly. Can you help? if > > >so, drop me a line and we'll see if we can work something out. > > Holy crap. Why is an aerospace company still using such an old-assed > computer? Anyway, I may be able to help them. Because most fiscal conservatives don't see the point of a space program. Regards, -dq

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[SunRescue] PDP 11/34 in Twin Cities <fwd>

by John.Honniball＠uwe.ac.uk

Here's a note that I spotted on the Sun Rescue mailing list: --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:47:07 -0600 From: Steve Hatle <shatle(a)vue.com> Subject: [SunRescue] PDP 11/34 in Twin Cities Sender: rescue-admin(a)sunhelp.org To: rescue(a)sunhelp.org Reply-To: rescue(a)sunhelp.org Message-ID: <000001c08cba$0d1883d0$3201a8c0@thor> All who are interested in DEC, The local Lockheed/Unisys surplus store has a PDP 11/34 available. It's part of a "Dicomed" system that was apparently used to create microfiche film/prints- there's a bunch of stuff like cameras, etc that are with it. I don't know much about this vintage of DEC, but there's an 11/34, 3 DEC disk packs (19" by approx 12") a DecWriter, a 9 track tape drive and all the film crap, housed in approx 3-4 5 foot racks. Apparently it was all in working order when it was pulled- they outsourced the film biz. The guy at the warehouse knows nothing about it beyond that. When I asked him what he wanted for it, he just said it would go "cheap". I would guess a couple hundred bucks would get you the whole shootin' match. The more you take, I'm sure the cheaper it would get. <grin> If anyone wants more info, let me know, and I can pass on contact info. Steve shatle(a)vue.com _______________________________________________ Rescue maillist - Rescue(a)sunhelp.org http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue --- End Forwarded Message --- -- John Honniball Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk University of the West of England

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fw: classic answering machines

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

Hi folks, The following is a message from Julian Richardson () - he'd post it himself but for some reason the list is bouncing his messages...... <cough> <clears throat> ------------------------------------- -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum) 0/0

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OT: Put Down Engineers" Week

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I thought most of you could relate to this! :-) Joe >Subject: Put Down Engineers" Week > >Q: When does a person decide to become an engineer? >A: When he realizes he doesn't have the charisma to be an undertaker. > >Q: What do engineers use for birth control? >A: Their personalities. > >Q: How can you tell an extroverted engineer? >A: When he talks to you, he looks at your shoes instead of his own. > >Q: Why did the engineers cross the road? >A: Because they looked in the file, and that's what they did last year. > >Q: How do you drive an engineer completely insane? >A: Tie him to a chair, stand in front of him, and fold up a road map the >wrong way. > >And you might be an engineer if: > >Choosing between buying flowers for your wife and upgrading your RAM is a >problem. (This is a no-brainer - RAM all the way.) > >You still own a slide rule and know how to use it. > >You take a cruise so you can go on a personal tour of the engine room. > >In college, you thought Spring Break was metal fatigue failure. (We had >Spring Break in college ? I didn't know that - I must have missed it.) > >The salespeople at the local computer store can't answer any of your >questions. (Yeah - some knowledgeable salespeople they are.) > >At an air show, you know how fast the skydivers are falling. >For your wife's birthday you gave her a new CD-ROM drive or a Palm Pilot. >(Look at it this way - she's very lucky I even remembered her birthday with >all the important things going on in my mind.) > >You can quote scenes from any Monte Python movie. > >You can type 70 words per minute but you can't read your own handwriting. >(It's a code, fool !!) > >You comment to your wife that her straight hair is nice and parallel. (You >forgot the humorous followup question: "What'd you do - stick your finger >in the wall outlet ?" Hahahahaha !!!!!) > >You sit backwards on Disney rides so you can see how they do the special >effects. > >You have saved every power cord from all your broken appliances. > >You have more friends on the Internet than in real life. (What's a >"friend"?) > >You know what http:// stands for. (Damn right, and what's more, I'm not >going to tell you.) > >You look forward to Christmas so you can put together the kids toys. (Damn >right again - that's why I had kids - so I'd have toys to assemble on >Christmas Eve - why else and so what ?) > >You see a good design, and have to change it. (Hey, I can always make a >good thing better.) > >You spent more on your calculator than you did on your wedding ring. > >You think that people yawning around you are sleep deprived. (I'm really >not sure why they are yawning, but I know it's not due to my vibrant >personality.) > >You window shop at Radio Shack. (I hate the drool left on the windows by >the previous engineer window shoppers.) > >Your laptop computer cost more than your car. > >Your wife hasn't the foggiest idea of what you do at work. (My wife hasn't >the foggiest idea about a lot of things.) > >You've already calculated how much you make per second. > >You've tried to repair a $5 radio. (It seemed like a good idea when I >started.) >

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Lost my mailbox and some of your email addresses!

by william.webb＠juno.com

Apologies in advance. I rolled back from Juno 5 (bug-ridden memory hog) to Juno 4 and although I used the backup option in 5, 4 doesn't have any way to read the backup file. I was in the middle of a sale (core memory frame) to one individual, haven't gotten fundage from him yet, and don't know how to let him know. I was discussing VAXstation 4000 VLC options with somebody else, also lost. Thanks for your forebearance. William W. Webb Owner of: ----------------------------- VAXstation 4000 VLC VAXstation 3100 Model 38 VAXstation 3100 Model 76 DEC Multia UDB (VMS 7.2 Hobbyist-licenses) DEC PC XL590 (Win NT4/Linux 6.0) and numerous quality firearms, but that's another mailing list. ;-) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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What is this system? [LONG]

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Uh, DPS-6's and 8's were made by Honeywell, not GE, and it doesn't really look like either of them, from the one I own and the pictures I've seen... It really looks more like some kind of huge printer or something... and there's what looks like an LSI ADM terminal of some sort too, and the Honeywell terminals don't look like those... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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IBM APL for PC help: missing VM232___.AIO

by sieler＠allegro.com

hi, I just got an unopened copy of IBM's APL for the PC, from 1988 (apparently). There's a 5.25" floppy disk in it, and one file is unreadable: VM232___.AIO. Does anyone have a copy I can borrow? thanks! -- Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.sieler.com

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ALERT! Major Purge in progress

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

This needs immediate action everyone, Compaq is in the process of removing ALL of the old "Digital Equipment Corp" information from the Web. We've already lost the DEC Technical Journal articles that were on-line, and the Digital Timeline pages. This is a major blow to archivists and preservationists. EVERYONE needs to contect Compaq/DEC and ask that they restore those pages to the web. Please! --Chuck

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Raytheon 704

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Anyone out there have a Raytheon 704 computer, circa 1977. I just found a copy of the Users Manual at Goodwill. No computer unfortunately. If anyone is interested in it contact me offline, otherwise it will show up on eBay. Paxton Portland, Oregon

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WTB: MicroAce, CTM magazines

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I think a better question would be "How hard is it to find the goddamned monitor and keyboard for the bastard?" As the owner of a Terak, I can say its cute, but pretty useless sans monitor and keyboard... grrr.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Actually that's later Macs. The earliest that do have 72 pin simms I > >can think of is LC III w/ 8MB which I have learning against TV stand > >to be used w/ BSD if I can not find 68882 rated for 25mhz FPU to use > >68k-linux because I don't wish to buy apple's 7.1 for it. > > But why exactly OS 7.1? After all, you may download 7.5 for free from Apple, > as well as earlier versions. All save for 7.1. There are *updates* to 7.5 (like 7.5.1, etc) that are freely available from Apple's sites, but I've never seen 7.5 itself freely available for download. Care to share a link? -dq

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FW: TRS-80 Magazines

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote: > > > One of my first jobs working for Wayne was editing those editorials--a task > > the rest of the staff was happy to hand off. You should have seen some of > > the stuff that never saw print. > > Such as...? The ads for ??? that featured "Lil' Ample Annie" were something I looked forward to every month... -dq

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