27 Jan
2001
27 Jan
'01
9:44 p.m.
I think a better question would be "How hard is it to find the goddamned
monitor and keyboard for the bastard?" As the owner of a Terak, I can say
its cute, but pretty useless sans monitor and keyboard... grrr..
Will J
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28 Jan
28 Jan
2:10 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
Would anyone by chance have 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
available? I'd like to finish filling out the RAM in my
NeXTstation. Unfortunately, the 4meg SIMM is the largest that I can
use even though it has 8 SIMM slots.
Thanks
Jeff
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12:21 p.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
Jeff Hellige skrev:
Would anyone by chance have 4 - 4meg 72pin
non-parity SIMMs
available? I'd like to finish filling out the RAM in my
NeXTstation. Unfortunately, the 4meg SIMM is the largest that I can
use even though it has 8 SIMM slots.
I'm actually surprised you can't find any. They, if any kind of SIMM, are as
common as dirt. OTOH, I'll gladly trade for 4 MB 30-pin SIMMs, parity or not.
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29 Jan
29 Jan
7:18 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
I'm actually surprised you can't find any.
They, if any kind of SIMM, are as
common as dirt. OTOH, I'll gladly trade for 4 MB 30-pin SIMMs, parity or not.
It's just that I ran out of that size in the RAM that I have
stashed here. In fact, with rebuilding various older Mac's and stuff
for people, I've pretty much used up most of what I did have.
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10:33 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
Jeff Hellige skrev:
>I'm actually surprised you can't find any.
They, if any kind of SIMM, are as
>common as dirt. OTOH, I'll gladly trade for 4 MB 30-pin SIMMs, parity or
>not.
It's just that I ran out of that size in the RAM
that I have
stashed here. In fact, with rebuilding various older Mac's and stuff
for people, I've pretty much used up most of what I did have.
I disagree - if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they surely can't be older Macs. Older
Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
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11:20 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
I disagree - if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they surely
can't be older Macs. Older
Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
At this stage, I consider the likes of a Quadra 605 to be an
older Mac. The 605 I put together for my sister-in-law who wanted a
system for email because I could do it for nearly zero cost. I do
have some of the Mac IIFX 64pin SIMMs around as well, though don't
recall what size they are. Of course, what would be nice is if I
came across a couple of 36meg 72pin SIMMs to stick in my PM 6100 <g>
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11:40 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
I disagree - if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they surely
can't be older Macs. Older
Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
No, there are some 72-pin SIMM Macs. The 7100 comes to mind.
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6:59 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
From: Cameron Kaiser
<spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu>
Subject: Re: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:40:52 -0800 (PST)
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
I disagree -
if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they surely can't be older Macs. Older
Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
No, there are some 72-pin SIMM Macs. The 7100 comes to mind.
30 Jan
30 Jan
10:44 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
jpero skrev:
> > I disagree - if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they
surely can't be older Macs.
> > Older Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
>
> No, there are some 72-pin SIMM Macs. The 7100 comes to mind.
Actually that's later Macs. The earliest that do
have 72 pin simms I
can think of is LC III w/ 8MB which I have learning against TV stand
to be used w/ BSD if I can not find 68882 rated for 25mhz FPU to use
68k-linux because I don't wish to buy apple's 7.1 for it.
But why exactly OS 7.1? After all, you may download 7.5 for free from Apple,
as well as earlier versions. All save for 7.1.
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31 Jan
31 Jan
5:39 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
Actually
that's later Macs. The earliest that do have 72 pin simms I
can think of is LC III w/ 8MB which I have learning against TV stand
to be used w/ BSD if I can not find 68882 rated for 25mhz FPU to use
68k-linux because I don't wish to buy apple's 7.1 for it.
But why exactly OS 7.1? After all, you may download 7.5 for free from Apple,
as well as earlier versions. All save for 7.1.
1 Feb
1 Feb
9:03 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
Cameron Kaiser skrev:
> >Actually that's later Macs. The earliest
that do have 72 pin simms I
> >can think of is LC III w/ 8MB which I have learning against TV stand
> >to be used w/ BSD if I can not find 68882 rated for 25mhz FPU to use
> >68k-linux because I don't wish to buy apple's 7.1 for it.
>
> But why exactly OS 7.1? After all, you may download 7.5 for free from
> Apple, as well as earlier versions. All save for 7.1.
Because 7.1 is probably the best of the System 7
versions (save 7.6), IMHO.
It's small and lacks much of the garbage that was in 7.5.x.
True, but if you haven't got it, you haven't, and it shouldn't really be the
decisive factor whether you choose MacOS or NetBSD.
7.6 is good but you need a correspondingly buffer
system to run it. All of
my 68Ks run 7.1 except the SE/30 and the Plus, which run 6.0.8 -- even the
NetBSD IIci :-)
Run 7.1 on the SE/30, it deserves it.
I've got a Centris with version 8, but then again I only run what comes on the
hard drive. I don't really feel like installing 7.5.3 on every Mac I've got.
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11:20 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
7.6 is good but
you need a correspondingly buffer system to run it. All of
my 68Ks run 7.1 except the SE/30 and the Plus, which run 6.0.8 -- even the
NetBSD IIci :-)
Run 7.1 on the SE/30, it deserves it.
29 Jan
29 Jan
12:36 p.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Yes, but these aren't old. I've got some 72-pinners, too, namely a Centris
and some LCs, but they are far from old. Less than ten years, even. =)
I disagree -
if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they surely can't be older Macs. Older
Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
No, there are some 72-pin SIMM Macs. The 7100 comes to mind.
3:38 p.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
> > I disagree - if they use 72-pin SIMMs, they
surely can't be older Macs.
> > Older Macs use 30-pin or 64-pin modules. =)
> No, there are some 72-pin SIMM Macs. The 7100
comes to mind.
Yes, but these aren't old. I've got some
72-pinners, too, namely a Centris
and some LCs, but they are far from old. Less than ten years, even. =)
Pedant. :-P
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28 Jan
28 Jan
5:32 p.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
Would anyone by chance have 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity
SIMMs
available? I'd like to finish filling out the RAM in my
NeXTstation. Unfortunately, the 4meg SIMM is the largest that I can
use even though it has 8 SIMM slots.
Um.
If it uses 72-pin SIMMs, it has only 2 banks (4 slots) and there's no
reason you can't use larger SIMMs.
Now, if it uses _30-pin_ SIMMs, your request makes more sense.
In either case, I don't have any spare RAM to fit this machine. Sorry. (:
ok
r.
8:33 p.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
Trust me, it's 8 slots of 72pin SIMMs. The early non-Turbo
Color slabs had 8 slots while the later Turbo slabs had 4 slots.
Also, I tried using standard non-parity double sided 8meg SIMMs in
the machine and it didn't work. The only NeXT I've seen listed as
supporting more than 32meg is the '040 Cube. Otherwise, as far as I
know, 8meg 72pin SIMMs will only work in the Turbo's.
Jeff
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Would anyone by chance have 4 - 4meg 72pin
non-parity SIMMs
available? I'd like to finish filling out the RAM in my
NeXTstation. Unfortunately, the 4meg SIMM is the largest that I can
use even though it has 8 SIMM slots.
If it uses 72-pin SIMMs, it has only 2 banks
(4 slots) and there's no
reason you can't use larger SIMMs. 
10:34 p.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
My Turbo Color (ADB model) NeXTstation has 4 72 pinn simm slots filled
with 32mb FPM simms for 128mb total. I think I saw some earlier NeXT
machines that took 8 30pin simms.
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote:
Trust me, it's 8 slots of 72pin SIMMs. The early non-Turbo
Color slabs had 8 slots while the later Turbo slabs had 4 slots.
Also, I tried using standard non-parity double sided 8meg SIMMs in
the machine and it didn't work. The only NeXT I've seen listed as
supporting more than 32meg is the '040 Cube. Otherwise, as far as I
know, 8meg 72pin SIMMs will only work in the Turbo's.
Jeff
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http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 Would anyone by chance have 4 - 4meg 72pin
non-parity SIMMs
available? I'd like to finish filling out the RAM in my
NeXTstation. Unfortunately, the 4meg SIMM is the largest that I can
use even though it has 8 SIMM slots.
If it uses 72-pin SIMMs, it has only 2 banks
(4 slots) and there's no
reason you can't use larger SIMMs.
29 Jan
29 Jan
7:22 a.m.
New subject: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
My Turbo Color (ADB model) NeXTstation has 4 72 pinn
simm slots filled
with 32mb FPM simms for 128mb total. I think I saw some earlier NeXT
machines that took 8 30pin simms.
I've never had any of the ADB model Turbo's. That's cool
that you can use more RAM in them though. Don't the official specs
still list the max at 32meg? I've had two non-turbo Color slabs,
both with 8 72pin SIMM slots and neither one would take any of the
SIMMs above 4meg that I tried in them. Non-Turbo mono slabs used 30
pin SIMMs if i remember correctly.
Jeff
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28 Jan
28 Jan
8:37 p.m.
New subject: Mystery Nubus quad SCSI card
I have a full length Nubus card with a bunch of neat looking stuff on it.
NCR 53C720 Quad SCSI chip
(4) SCSI connectors, internal (1 25 pin SE, 1 25 pin differential, plus one
long weird, and 2 small pin connectors), and external a tiny centronics
looking thing, plus a Din8.
Looks to be about 1994, and says Fuji interface nubus board.
I guess I will know more when I plug it into something, but it sure has me
curious. I'm guessing something prepress.
2:53 a.m.
At 04:44 AM 1/28/01 -0700, you wrote:
I think a better question would be "How hard is it
to find the goddamned monitor and keyboard for the bastard?" As the owner of a Terak,
I can say its cute, but pretty useless sans monitor and keyboard... grrr..
The monitor is a generic RS-170 video, so that's easy to recreate.
The keyboard's parallel output is well-documented, I imagine
it could be recreated in several ways. The docs are online.
- John
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