31 Jan
2001
31 Jan
'01
12:01 a.m.
Hello, all:
I got the following message from someone. Can we help him out??
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas J Leon [mailto:nicholas@binary9.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32 AM
To: rcini(a)msn.com
Subject: TRS-80 Magazines
Greetings!
I am currently trying to prove that I am the author of an old TRS-80
program that someone else has taken credit for, Bullet-80.
At one point, in the early 80's, I was written up in a small magazine (not
Compute, not Byte, something smaller) for this. Unfortunately it was 20
years ago and I can't remember what the magazine was.
When you are looking through all your old stuff, could you do me a favor
and keep an eye out for my name? (And the name of Joe Simon, too). At the
time I was 13-years-old and living in Wilton, CT.
Your help in this would be much appreciative.
Thank you!!
--------------------------------------------------------- nicholas j leon
[personal web] http://nicholasjleon.com
[email ] sig(a)nicholasjleon.com
[work ] Eagle Design & Management
[work web ] http://www.aerie.com
[work email ] nicholas(a)aerie.com
[pgp ] http://nicholasjleon.com/plan.txt
[top secret
messenger ] http://nicholasjleon.com/mypublic.tsm
--------------------------------------------------------- elegance through
Proud resident of Greensboro, NC simplicity
31 Jan
31 Jan
3:25 p.m.
Hi. Wasn't the Bullet a CP/M bbs program from the early 80's and late
70's?
At any rate, try Kilobaud Microcomputing magazine to find your credit.
I don't know if the article you are looking for is in Kilobaud, but I
worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In fact,
I think it Became Byte.
Best of luck, and thanks for the kicks (even if you don't get credit for
it today),
Jeff
In <497A9E0467D2D2119B760090271EB8E53E36E2@MAIL10>, on 02/01/01
at 12:25 AM, "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> said:
Hello, all:
I got the following message from someone. Can we help
him out??
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas J Leon [mailto:nicholas@binary9.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32 AM
> To: rcini(a)msn.com
> Subject: TRS-80 Magazines
>
> Greetings!
>
> I am currently trying to prove that I am the author of an old TRS-80
> program that someone else has taken credit for, Bullet-80.
>
> At one point, in the early 80's, I was written up in a small magazine (not
> Compute, not Byte, something smaller) for this. Unfortunately it was 20
> years ago and I can't remember what the magazine was.
>
> When you are looking through all your old stuff, could you do me a favor
> and keep an eye out for my name? (And the name of Joe Simon, too). At the
> time I was 13-years-old and living in Wilton, CT.
>
> Your help in this would be much appreciative.
>
> Thank you!!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------- nicholas j leon
> [personal web] http://nicholasjleon.com
> [email ] sig(a)nicholasjleon.com
> [work ] Eagle Design & Management
> [work web ] http://www.aerie.com
> [work email ] nicholas(a)aerie.com
> [pgp ] http://nicholasjleon.com/plan.txt
> [top secret
> messenger ] http://nicholasjleon.com/mypublic.tsm
> --------------------------------------------------------- elegance through
> Proud resident of Greensboro, NC simplicity
>
>
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey S. Worley
President
Complete Computer Services, Inc.
30 Greenwood Rd.
Asheville, NC 28803
828-277-5959
Visit our website at HTTP://www.Real-Techs.com
THETechnoid(a)home.com
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5:19 p.m.
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
I don't know if the article you are looking for is
in Kilobaud, but I
worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In fact,
I think it Became Byte.
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I believe this is
where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and Microcomputing were
seperate mags that merged at some point.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
5:20 p.m.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in
September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
^^^^
Sorry, make that 1977.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
10:32 p.m.
Kilobaud and Microcomputing were two separate magazines from different
publishers, but they never merged. "Kilobaud Microcomputing" was always the
title of the publication. I worked for the publisher, Wayne Green, who was
one of the people who started BYTE. When his ex-wife took over BYTE, Wayne
started Kilobaud.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Festival
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> I don't know if the article you are looking for is in Kilobaud, but I
> worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In
fact,
I think it
Became Byte.
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I believe this is
where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and Microcomputing were
seperate mags that merged at some point.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
11:37 p.m.
What is Wayne Green doing today? I really enjoyed reading Byte, 80-Micro and
a few of his other magazines. I had email contact with David Ahl (publisher
of Creative Computing) several years ago and he is now a financial planner
in NJ.
-Chandra
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Michael Nadeau
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:33 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Kilobaud and Microcomputing were two separate magazines from different
publishers, but they never merged. "Kilobaud Microcomputing" was always the
title of the publication. I worked for the publisher, Wayne Green, who was
one of the people who started BYTE. When his ex-wife took over BYTE, Wayne
started Kilobaud.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Festival
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> I don't know if the article you are looking for is in Kilobaud, but I
> worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In
fact,
I think it
Became Byte.
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I believe this is
where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and Microcomputing were
seperate mags that merged at some point.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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----
International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
1 Feb
1 Feb
12:44 a.m.
Wayne still publishes 73 magazine for ham radio operators, but he's slowed
down quite a bit--he must be pushing 80 by now.
There's a Web site for his former employees that you might want to check
out: http://www.detray.com/ww/
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chandra Bajpai" <cbajpai(a)mediaone.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
What is Wayne Green doing today? I really enjoyed
reading Byte, 80-Micro
and
a few of his other magazines. I had email contact
with David Ahl
(publisher
of Creative Computing) several years ago and he is now
a financial planner
in NJ.
-Chandra
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Michael Nadeau
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:33 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Kilobaud and Microcomputing were two separate magazines from different
publishers, but they never merged. "Kilobaud Microcomputing" was always
the
title of the publication. I worked for the publisher,
Wayne Green, who was
one of the people who started BYTE. When his ex-wife took over BYTE, Wayne
started Kilobaud.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Festival
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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> I don't know if the article you are looking for is in Kilobaud, but I
> worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In
fact,
I think
it Became Byte.
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I believe this is
where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and Microcomputing were
seperate mags that merged at some point.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
3:46 a.m.
Michael Nadeau wrote:
Wayne still publishes 73 magazine for ham radio operators, but he's slowed
down quite a bit--he must be pushing 80 by now.
There's a Web site for his former employees that you might want to check
out: http://www.detray.com/ww/
And of course, Wayne has his own web site at http://www.waynegreen.com/ and
he is as opinionated as ever :). I must admit though, some of his editorials
in 73 Magazine are pretty interesting.
4:39 a.m.
One of my first jobs working for Wayne was editing those editorials--a task
the rest of the staff was happy to hand off. You should have seen some of
the stuff that never saw print.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin" <marvin(a)rain.org>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
and
Michael Nadeau wrote:
>
> Wayne still publishes 73 magazine for ham radio operators, but he's
slowed
down quite a
bit--he must be pushing 80 by now.
There's a Web site for his former employees that you might want to check
out: http://www.detray.com/ww/
And of course, Wayne has his own web site at http://www.waynegreen.com/ he is as opinionated as ever :). I must admit though,
some of his
editorials
in 73 Magazine are pretty interesting.
3:51 a.m.
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
One of my first jobs working for Wayne was editing
those editorials--a task
the rest of the staff was happy to hand off. You should have seen some of
the stuff that never saw print.
Such as...?
:)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
5:32 a.m.
Well, the last editorial he ever wrote for the IDG publications was pulled
entirely. He was quite bitter at the time because by then he had become
associated with the magazines he founded in name only. He sent the same
editorial to all the magazines, and it managed to insult every class of
computer user--Commodore, Radio Shack, Apple, etc. I don't recall the
specifics, but I think I still have a copy somewhere.
Wayne never complained about us pulling the more inflammatory stuff. I think
it became a sport for him to see what he could get by his editors.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Festival
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
> One of my first jobs working for Wayne was editing those editorials--a
task
> the rest of the staff was happy to hand off. You
should have seen some
of
the stuff that
never saw print.
Such as...?
:)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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----
International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
2:04 p.m.
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
Well, the last editorial he ever wrote for the IDG
publications was pulled
entirely. He was quite bitter at the time because by then he had become
associated with the magazines he founded in name only. He sent the same
editorial to all the magazines, and it managed to insult every class of
computer user--Commodore, Radio Shack, Apple, etc. I don't recall the
specifics, but I think I still have a copy somewhere.
Post it!
:)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
2 Feb
2 Feb
2:33 a.m.
I will if I can find it--stashed in a box somewhere in my basement.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Festival
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
> Well, the last editorial he ever wrote for the IDG publications was
pulled
entirely. He
was quite bitter at the time because by then he had become
associated with the magazines he founded in name only. He sent the same
editorial to all the magazines, and it managed to insult every class of
computer user--Commodore, Radio Shack, Apple, etc. I don't recall the
specifics, but I think I still have a copy somewhere.
Post it!
:)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
1 Feb
1 Feb
12:40 a.m.
At 11:19 PM 1/31/01 -0800, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
Kilobaud and Byte were both started by Wayne Green. IIRC Kilobaud grew out
of another Green publication for Hams called 73. 1976 might be right but
it was started before 79.
I don't recall a mag called Microcomputing that merged with Kilobaud but at
some point it changed it's name to Kilobaud Microcomputing and later 80
Microcomputing.
Regards,
Bob
--------------------------------------------------------
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous,
he will not bite you. This is the principal difference
between a dog and a man."
-- Mark Twain
I don't know if the article you are looking
for is in Kilobaud, but I
worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In fact,
I think it Became Byte.
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I believe this is
where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and Microcomputing were
seperate mags that merged at some point.
1:19 a.m.
I stand corrected. The "Kilobaud" was dropped around 1982; I thought that it
remained in small letters, but I just checked my back issues and it's gone.
However, 80 Microcomputing was a separate sister publication to Kilobaud
devoted to TRS-80 systems. It did change its name to 80 Micro in the 80s.
Sorry for the confusion.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Withers" <bwit(a)pobox.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
Kilobaud and Byte were both started by Wayne Green. IIRC Kilobaud grew out
At 11:19 PM 1/31/01 -0800, Sellam Ismail wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
>
> > I don't know if the article you are looking for is in Kilobaud, but I
> > worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a few years. In
fact,
I think it Became Byte.
Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in September, 1975.
Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or beginning of 1979.
I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I believe this is
where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and Microcomputing were
seperate mags that merged at some point. of another Green publication for Hams called 73. 1976
might be right but
it was started before 79.
I don't recall a mag called Microcomputing that merged with Kilobaud but
at
some point it changed it's name to Kilobaud
Microcomputing and later 80
Microcomputing.
Regards,
Bob
--------------------------------------------------------
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous,
he will not bite you. This is the principal difference
between a dog and a man."
-- Mark Twain
3:54 a.m.
New subject: Magazines
Where the hell were you guys at the time???????
Kilobaud did not become Byte, nor vice-versa. Wayne Green started
Kilobaud after his ex got Byte in a divorce settlement.
He also had a Ham magazine.
Later, he started 80 Microcomputing (a TRS-80 mag) as a spin-off from
Kilobaud.
The way that computer magazines work:
I bought issues at newsstands (DeLauer), and at computer stores.
A given magazine would become stable, and offer a substantial amount of
technical information. When I was sure that it was stable, and not about
to change, I would subscribe. The FIRST issue of my subscription would
ALWAYS carry the "GOOD NEWS" that either the technical material was
discontinued, or was being spun-off to be in a separate journal, or
closing down.
For example:
MY subscription to Kilobaud (for TRS-80 stuff) after years of single
issues, caused the creation of 80 Microcomputing.
MY subscription to 80 Microcomputing closed it.
My subscription to Dr. Dobb's led to focus shift to management.
(I have subscribed and lapsed DDJ many times. Notice the everchanging
subtitltes!)
MY subscription to PC Magazine caused PC Tech Journal.
MY subscription to PC Tech Journal closed it.
MY re-subscription to PC magazine caused the cessation of program
listings.
MY subscription to MicroCornucopia closed it.
I got comps of Bytes for MANY years. When I subscribed, . . .
I FINALLY got reliable source for MicroTimes and Computer Currents (Once
"Computer Classifieds"), . . .
My subscription to Programmer's Journal, . . .
My subscription to MS Systems Journal, . . .
Interface Age, , , ,
Creative Computing, . . .
My [free] subscription to PC-Week has lapsed because I just wouldn't
escalate the lies high enough ("Purchase authority for $45M per year,
...")
I'm getting InfoWorld again, . . .
What should I subscribe to next?
BTW, for looking for personal mentions, etc.(the origin of THIS thread),
for ~1988 on, use Computer Select/Computer Library. BTW2, guess why it
isn't what it once was.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
1:32 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
Where the hell were you guys at the time???????
Kilobaud did not become Byte, nor vice-versa. Wayne Green started
Kilobaud after his ex got Byte in a divorce settlement.
Where did you get this from?? Wayne Green was never involved
with Byte. Kilobaud (actually the ham magaize) and Byte were
competitors from the very beginning. I worked with a number
of the Byte people in the early years and I never heard this
story (I heard a lot of other interesting ones).
He also had a Ham magazine.
Number of early computer articles appeared in that magazine, but
for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. Wayne Green
was quite a controversial character (no relation) at the time. He
was well known for slaming other magazines for real or imagined
slights.
--
Dr. Mark Green mark(a)cs.ualberta.ca
McCalla Professor (780) 492-4584
Department of Computing Science (780) 492-1071 (FAX)
University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2H1, Canada
1:49 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
Hmmm...
Is it coincidence that we have a "Mark GREEN" here who didn't
look up the original sources?
Byte, Issue #1: Copyright 1975 by Green Publishing, Inc.
Page 9: from the Publisher...
how BYTE started
continued to
Page 96: (signed) Wayne Green
Better brush up on your family history!
Dave
Mark Green wrote:
Where the hell were you guys at the time???????
Kilobaud did not become Byte, nor vice-versa. Wayne Green started
Kilobaud after his ex got Byte in a divorce settlement.
Where did you get this from?? Wayne Green was never involved
with Byte. Kilobaud (actually the ham magaize) and Byte were
competitors from the very beginning. I worked with a number
of the Byte people in the early years and I never heard this
story (I heard a lot of other interesting ones).
He also had a Ham magazine.
Number of early computer articles appeared in that magazine, but
for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. Wayne Green
was quite a controversial character (no relation) at the time. He
was well known for slaming other magazines for real or imagined
slights.
--
Dr. Mark Green mark(a)cs.ualberta.ca
McCalla Professor (780) 492-4584
Department of Computing Science (780) 492-1071 (FAX)
University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2H1, Canada
2:18 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
Hmmm...
Is it coincidence that we have a "Mark GREEN" here who didn't
look up the original sources?
Unfortunately my early issues of Byte are about 10,000 miles
away, couldn't afford to move them (as it was the air freight
to Hong Kong was a killer, but did manage to bring a SUN
and SGI with me, the PDP11s were too heavy).
Byte, Issue #1: Copyright 1975 by Green Publishing, Inc.
Page 9: from the Publisher...
how BYTE started
continued to
Page 96: (signed) Wayne Green
I stand corrected on this, sorry.
His involvement must have been very short lived and quickly forgotten.
By the time I got involved (second or third year, I don't
quite remember, I think it was 1977), Byte was run by a single (as
in unmarried) guy (again I forget the name and have no way of looking
it up). If I remember correctly he did end up marrying someone
involved with the magazine, but that was quite a few years later.
Better brush up on your family history!
As I said, he was no relation of mine.
--
Dr. Mark Green mark(a)cs.ualberta.ca
McCalla Professor (780) 492-4584
Department of Computing Science (780) 492-1071 (FAX)
University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2H1, Canada
2:43 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
Having been interested in the "kill-a-broad" mag back in the '70's, I
heard
the same stories about Mark Green and his ex taking BYTE away from him, and
he then starting Kilobaud. I always though Kilobaud was a bit better than
Byte, having fewer of the superficial "it's great and wonderful!" reviews
than BYTE.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Green" <mark(a)cs.ualberta.ca>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Magazines
Hmmm...
Is it coincidence that we have a "Mark GREEN" here who didn't
look up the original sources?
Unfortunately my early issues of Byte are about 10,000 miles
away, couldn't afford to move them (as it was the air freight
to Hong Kong was a killer, but did manage to bring a SUN
and SGI with me, the PDP11s were too heavy).
Byte, Issue #1: Copyright 1975 by Green Publishing, Inc.
Page 9: from the Publisher...
how BYTE started
continued to
Page 96: (signed) Wayne Green
I stand corrected on this, sorry.
His involvement must have been very short lived and quickly forgotten.
By the time I got involved (second or third year, I don't
quite remember, I think it was 1977), Byte was run by a single (as
in unmarried) guy (again I forget the name and have no way of looking
it up). If I remember correctly he did end up marrying someone
involved with the magazine, but that was quite a few years later.
Better brush up on your family history!
As I said, he was no relation of mine.
--
Dr. Mark Green mark(a)cs.ualberta.ca
McCalla Professor (780) 492-4584
Department of Computing Science (780) 492-1071 (FAX)
University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2H1, Canada
1:51 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
Mark Green wrote:
Wayne Green was involved with Byte Magazine at the beginning although I
don't know for how long. His name was listed IIRC the publisher on at least
the first issue of Byte.
Where the hell were you guys at the time???????
Kilobaud did not become Byte, nor vice-versa. Wayne Green started
Kilobaud after his ex got Byte in a divorce settlement.
Where did you get this from?? Wayne Green was never involved
with Byte. Kilobaud (actually the ham magaize) and Byte were 
8:38 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
Where did you
get this from?? Wayne Green was never involved
with Byte. Kilobaud (actually the ham magaize) and Byte were
Wayne Green was involved with Byte Magazine at the beginning although I
don't know for how long. His name was listed IIRC the publisher on at least
the first issue of Byte.
10:17 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
I've worked for both BYTE and Wayne, and Wayne was the original publisher of
BYTE. He will tell you he founded it, but the real story is a bit murkier.
After years of claiming to have been the sole founder of BYTE and slamming
his ex-wife, Virginia Londoner, for taking the magazine away from him in
print, Wayne was sued by Virginia for slander. The key witness in the case
was Carl Helmers, the first editor of BYTE and former publisher of the ECS
Journal. When asked whether Wayne or Virginia started the magazine, he
replied, "Well, actually *I* started BYTE."
The upshot: The judge ruled that neither Wayne nor Virginia could claim to
be sole founders of BYTE; I don't believe there was any cash settlement, but
I could be wrong.
Carl, BTW, now publishes ID Systems and Desktop Engineering magazines. He
still uses Robert Tinney, the artist who did a lot of the great early BYTE
covers, from time to time.
--Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin" <marvin(a)rain.org>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Magazines
Mark Green wrote:
Wayne Green was involved with Byte Magazine at the beginning although I
don't know for how long. His name was listed IIRC the publisher on at
least
Where the hell were you guys at the time???????
Kilobaud did not become Byte, nor vice-versa. Wayne Green started
Kilobaud after his ex got Byte in a divorce settlement.
Where did you get this from?? Wayne Green was never involved
with Byte. Kilobaud (actually the ham magaize) and Byte were the first issue of Byte.
2 Feb
2 Feb
8:43 a.m.
New subject: Magazines
This may be a good time to ask while we're on the subject of old
magazines:
I'm looking for Datamation magazines. I am willing to trade really cool
stuff (or $$$) for complete runs.
Please let me know if you've got any you wouldn't mind letting go and what
you're looking for in return.
<sellam(a)vintage.org>
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8:44 a.m.
New subject: Magazines
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
Carl, BTW, now publishes ID Systems and Desktop
Engineering magazines.
He still uses Robert Tinney, the artist who did a lot of the great
early BYTE covers, from time to time.
Michael, might you know how to contact Mr. Tinney? He would make a great
speaker for the VCF.
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New subject: Magazines
No, but I know someone who does. I'll get back to you.
--Mike
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Subject: Re: Magazines
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
Festival
Carl, BTW, now publishes ID Systems and Desktop
Engineering magazines.
He still uses Robert Tinney, the artist who did a lot of the great
early BYTE covers, from time to time.
Michael, might you know how to contact Mr. Tinney? He would make a great
speaker for the VCF.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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New subject: Magazines
Just remembered he has a Web site. It's at: http://www.tinney.net/.
--Mike
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From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Magazines
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
Festival
Carl, BTW, now publishes ID Systems and Desktop
Engineering magazines.
He still uses Robert Tinney, the artist who did a lot of the great
early BYTE covers, from time to time.
Michael, might you know how to contact Mr. Tinney? He would make a great
speaker for the VCF.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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3 Feb
3 Feb
12:44 a.m.
New subject: Magazines
At 02:44 PM 2/2/01 -0800, you wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
http://www.tinney.net/ should b the first place that turns
up in a web search, if you take the time to do it. I met him
at a COMDEX or maybe a West Coast Computer Fair once upon a
time. I suspect his home address is below.
- John
Robert Tinney Graphics
1864 North Pamela Drive
Baton Rouge, LA 70815
(504) 272-7266
Carl, BTW, now publishes ID Systems and Desktop
Engineering magazines.
He still uses Robert Tinney, the artist who did a lot of the great
early BYTE covers, from time to time.
Michael, might you know how to contact Mr. Tinney? He would make a great
speaker for the VCF.
1 Feb
1 Feb
2:10 p.m.
New subject: Magazines
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Mark Green wrote:
73 ;)
I have a good collection of 73, though not yet complete. It does have
some pretty good computer articles, generally one per issue starting from
the mid-70s.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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He also had a
Ham magazine.
Number of early computer articles appeared in that magazine, but
for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. Wayne Green
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