>SCSI replacements (was Re: Data General computer)
>Jim Brain brain at jbrain.com
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>Reading the vcforum thread mentioned earlier, Andrew noted there was a
>previous cctalk SCSI->SD discussion here, but that it died out. What
>happened there?
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Hi Jim! Thanks! Although the SCSI to IDE/SD project is going slowly I did get about 20 PCBs earlier this year. So far we've gotten some builds underway and at least one builder has gotten the board to run Zapple as a debug monitor as a "proof of life".
The project is quite a ways and is nearly complete. All it needs is some community involvement to push it to completion. In particular, it needs verification of the IDE, SD, and SCSI interfaces. Then it will need some firmware to handle the conversion.
The main advantage of the project is that it is completely open and free. If there is sufficient interest, I will order another batch of PCBs or try to get those builders with incomplete PCBs to swap them out.
In my opinion, this project is nearly complete and the shortest path to a working SCSI to IDE/SD converter. All it needs is some TLC and push from the community. As per the usual N8VEM guidelines this board uses all commonly available parts and is designed to be simple to assemble using basic tools.
Please help finish this project. I sincerely think it will be valuable for years to come and it would be nice to discuss an actual converter during this frequent topic on CCTALK.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
PS, I recognise the microcontroller/FPGA/CPLD approach is valid but they never seem to get off the drawing board.
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?22906-SCSI-1-to-from…http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?25989-Another-round-…http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder¶m=MINI%20SCSI%20…
I want to play with a russian K1801BM2 CPU (K1801VM2).
My russian from the school is very very rusty and so I have problems to
understand what's going on with this CPU while startup.
There is some "besadresnoe tschtanie", a read from the bus w/o
sending out an address before w/o active SYNC.
It is right, that this read is building the upper 8 bits from the start
address in the rom area with Systemu Mode (Halt Mode) = 1?
Can anyone please confirm this?
BTW: how is this external register to be done in HW?
Does anyone know if there are schematics of SBCs existing w/o special
support ICs like The K1801VP1-55 or so?
Kind Regards and thanks in advance,
Holm
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>Here's something I was thinking about the other day. I *know* for a fact that SCSI interface hard drives existed with 8" platters. I've never seen one, however. Does anyone know of any specific model numbers, or have any product information or pictures of such devices?
I just looked in my collection of 8" drives. I have two 8"
Imprimis/CDC 97201-12G PA8P1A ST81236N Sabre drives with the original
style SCSI connectors on the back. There are manuals for the drive on
Bitsavers at: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/discs/sabre/83325700N_PA8xx_736-1230mb_Par…,
and http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/discs/sabre/83325720F_PA8xx_736-1230mb_Mai….
The manuals say that the drives are 1.2G, 512 byte/sector drives with
an HP SCSI differential interface. I can post pictures if you are
interested.
--
Michael Thompson
I know I kind of touched on this in my earlier diagnostic query, but I
thought I'd send out a more obvious request:
Anyone have a memory expansion for a Vaxstation 3100 (model 30) they're
willing to part with? Something 8MB or larger would be wonderful. I
have a wide variety of DEC (and other) hardware to trade.
Thanks as always,
Josh
I have received a few requests for the Donner 3500 instruction manual,
which I have posted on my site, with related docs
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread_record.cfm?id=421&tid=9
It appears a few of these are popping out of the woodwork lately. There
are now at least 8 now known to exist, maybe more.
Bill Degnan
Tonight I finished reading Walter Isaacson's book about Jobs. It is very good, and I highly recommend it.
I urge cctalk'ers to read it and constantly keep in mind * the big picture * instead of being your usual nit-picky selves about tech details.
Hey everyone!
I need to raise some money for gifts this year so I'm cleaning out some of
the systems I don't play with any more.
Terms:
* I'm in Bloomington, IN (47408)
* Everything works as of the last time I turned them on
* Things that are shipped: Payment via paypal + actual costs for shipping
* Things that aren't shipped: Cash only, and I can meet within a 50 mile
radius or so. That means the south side of Indy, Terre Haute, etc.
* If it seems too high, make me an offer. Of course, if it seems to low you
can offer too :)
* Sun Ultra 5 ($40, will ship)
333 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 256M RAM, CDROM, Floppy, Needs ATA HD
* IBM RS/6000 43p 7248 ($20, will ship)
133 MHz PPC 604, 96M RAM, 2.2G SCSI Disk, CDROM
* DEC VT-420 ($25)
Amber, Keyboard, 2 MMJ Ports
* DEC VT-220 ($25)
Green, Keyboard, DB25 Port
* DECserver 200/MC ($25, will ship)
8 db25 ports
* AUI 10BaseT Tranceivers ($1 each, will ship)
10 available, 12" cable
* 21" NeXT MegaPixel Color ($25)
Model N4005A, 13w3 connector
* Kaypro 4/84 ($150)
a: 5.25", b: 3.5", original disks for: cp/m 2.2g, basic-80, microplan,
c-basic, datastar, reportstar, calcstar, wordstar, mailmerge, s-basic,
suprterm,dbase ii; looks like a pretty full set of manuals. I have the
2nd 5.25" drive if you want it as well. Broken right hand keyboard latch.
* Amiga 1000 System ($350)
In original box with manuals. 256K expansion, 1M side expansion,
kickstart/workbench 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 (originals and copies, some disks fail
due to age, but I could boot 1.1 and 1.3). Zenith color composite monitor,
and misc software.
* Apple IIgs System ($100)
3.5" and 5.25" drives. System 5.0.4 software plus lots of educational stuff.
12" color monitor. Owner's reference and getting started guide.
* 22 8" floppies ($10, will ship)
If they weren't so big they'd make great stocking stuffers. Maybe they can
be hung outside the stocking?
I suspect many of use have this sort of problem, and I'd be interested in
hearing any solutions to it.
Moat classic computers have various little bits that go with them, in
particular cables and connector adaptors. In some cases these are
specific to one particular type of machine (e.g. the user prot adaptor
for the Acor Cabridge Workstation), others are rather more generic (the
same cassette lead fits all TRS-80 M1, M3, M4 and M100 machins, along
with the IBM 5150), and still others are totally generic (HPIB cables,
'kettle leads', etc).
I find storing thes parts, partircularly the 'somewhat generic' ones is a
problem, and I can never find what I need. You cna't categorise them by
machine (becase, for example, a TRS-80 M1 RS232 cable is specific to that
machine (it plugs into an esdge conenctor on the EI), the pritner cable
also fits the M3 and M4 machines, the cassette lead also fits the IBM
PC), you vcan;'t realy do it by function (a DBd25-DB25 lead could be used
for several purposes, not only RS232), and so on.
Any ideas? I am getting fed up with having to re-make a cable which I know I
made a couple years earlier, but for a different machine, and which I now
can't find.
-tony
I believe they have multiple (6? More?) Pentium or Pentium Pro processors.
At 07:20 PM 11/30/2011, you wrote:
>Do you know if these are Intel AViiON computers or Motorola 88k based
>machines?
>
>-Matt
>
>On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Tom <a50mhzham at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I might be soon coming into possession of some Data General stuff. Maybe
> > an Aviion 66. There's a second one, maybe a model 37? I'm not sure. No
> > drives. I'm going to see what's there and post the inventory in the next
> > few weeks. I've never heard of any demand for these; anyone know if there
> > would be any interest? I realize my question is based on pretty sketchy
> > information so far, but that's all I know.
> >
> > -T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 434 . [Humor] My school colors were clear. --Steven Wright
> > NEW: a50mhzham at gmail.com ? N9QQB (amateur radio)
> > "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) ? Second Tops (Set Dancing) ? FIND ME ON FACEBOOK
> > 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W ? Elevation 815' ? Grid Square EN53wc
> > LAN/Telecom Analyst ? Open-source Dude ? Musician ? Registered Linux User
> > 385531
> >
140 . [Philosophy] Faith means not _wanting_ to know the truth. --Nietzsche
NEW: a50mhzham at gmail.com ? N9QQB (amateur radio)
"HEY YOU" (loud shouting) ? Second Tops (Set Dancing) ? FIND ME ON FACEBOOK
43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W ? Elevation 815' ? Grid Square EN53wc
LAN/Telecom Analyst ? Open-source Dude ? Musician
? Registered Linux User 385531
I might be soon coming into possession of some
Data General stuff. Maybe an Aviion 66. There's
a second one, maybe a model 37? I'm not sure. No
drives. I'm going to see what's there and post
the inventory in the next few weeks. I've never
heard of any demand for these; anyone know if
there would be any interest? I realize my
question is based on pretty sketchy information so far, but that's all I know.
-T
434 . [Humor] My school colors were clear. --Steven Wright
NEW: a50mhzham at gmail.com ? N9QQB (amateur radio)
"HEY YOU" (loud shouting) ? Second Tops (Set Dancing) ? FIND ME ON FACEBOOK
43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W ? Elevation 815' ? Grid Square EN53wc
LAN/Telecom Analyst ? Open-source Dude ? Musician
? Registered Linux User 385531
As a follow up to Richard's question, does anyone have any experience
archiving an Xebec S1410 / S1410A SASI controlled drive from a
relatively modern system? If the SASI controller doesn't support the
standard SCSI Inquiry and Read Capacity commands I wouldn't expect
that you could simply connect it to a SCSI host controller on a Linux
box and "dd" the drive contents to a disk image file.
-Glen
A friend mentioned that he knew of someone who was selling off some
items he had including a Teletype. I told him I'd pass it along to the
list, as I thought there would be people interested here.
I have no direct connection to this sale, just passing it on. He is
local to me in Orange County, Ca.
Jim
320803364119
Hello everybody,
I came across some MCS-48 SW project which I have to get into active
maintenance again. I have assembly source and listings. And some DOS
batch files wich run commands like C:\ISIS\ASM80\HEXOBJ. And there are
strange .CSD files which seem to contain some kind of build rules
similar to a makefile.
In the listings there's mentioned an ISIS-II ASM48 assembler. And an
ISIS-II linker as well. I *have* to get that stuff up and working again.
What I assume:
- ISIS-II is an Intel Intellec's OS.
- The Tools from ISIS-II have been ported to MS-DOS but still call
themselves "ISIS-II" in the listings they produce.
Am I right?
Does anybody have the software?
Heeeelp, I'm lost!
It would be very nice if one of this list could help me out. Any input
welcome!
Kind regards,
Philipp
This Atari stuff falls outside my areas of interest. I would like to
find loving new homes for the following:
(4) Atari 1040ST computers w/SM124 monitor and mouse. One has the
original box. Some docs.
(1) Atari Mega ST2
See: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jja572/sets/72157624529916313/ for pictures.
Location: Madison, WI 53714
I will consider offers of money or items from my want list below:
Zilog Zeus distribution tape
VAXStation 2000 (so I can format drives for my MicroVAX IIs)
Drive sled for SGI 4D/25
Compact 6U VME chassis & power supply
Internal SCSI hard drive for IBM Thinkpad Power 850
PC532 motherboard or complete system
Hewlett Packard 700 series VME computer
Interesting VME & Multibus SBCs and cards
Sun Microsystems 386i - preferably a /250
IBM PC/RT system
AT&T {3B2/300,3B2/310,3B2/400}
-Jon
Hi all --
Picked up a Vaxstation 3100 today at the SRCS meeting. There is some
minor corrosion on the memory and motherboard PCBs, some due to
prolonged exposure to moisture, and some due to a leaking clock
battery. I've cleaned up the corrosion and it doesn't appear to have
done any serious damage.
At POST it identifies itself as a KA42-A, which I believe makes it a
Model 30.
I'm getting error messages from the POST and I'm unsure how to interpret
them -- the manuals have not been 100% clear. Here's what I get:
KA42-A V1.3
F...E...D...C...B...A...9...8...7...6...5...4...3_..2_..1?..
? E 0040 0000.0005
? C 0080 0000.4001
? B 0010 000C.0081
?? 1 00C0 0011.700E
The (E) error I expect since there's no clock battery. The (C) is also
expected since I don't have a keyboard/mouse plugged in (just using the
serial console). Similarly, (1) is also expected since I don't
currently have the ethernet interface hooked up to anything.
(B) is what's confusing me -- my understanding is that a single question
mark indicates a "soft" error, described in the manual thus: "Usually, a
question mark (?) in the power-up summary indicates a soft error and the
system may be usable without replacing any FRUs." OK. What does that
mean for memory, and how do I interpret the error code? I know that the
"000C" part indicates the amount of memory installed -- what does "0081"
mean in this context, and should I be concerned?
For further reference, "test 50" gives the following for memory:
? MEM 000C.0081
00400000
The machine does boot (VMS 6.0 off of two very noisy 104MB drives) and
it seems to work OK, though I haven't stressed it much yet.
Any suggestions here would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Josh
hello every one,
is the a tool to make proms from *.bin output from compilers?
that is to say a program that divides the 16 bits into two slices of 8
bits to make proms?thanks
best regards
Alain Nierveze
nierveze at radio-astronomie.comwww.radio-astronomie.com
SUN collectors,
This announcement below just came out on the SwRI internal
email. I don't know how they'd feel about buying an outside machine;
pretty sure they'd be OK with borrowing it if you are.
Let me know if you have a suitable machine to lend/rent/sell,
and I'll talk to the Division 9 folks to see whether they are
interested.
We are in San Antonio Texas, 78238
Division 09 is in need of a couple of Sun Ultrasparc 2 systems. An
Ultra 60 or better is preferable. The following system specs are
preferred, but all offers would be appreciated:
1GB of RAM or more
30GB HDD
10baseT, 10mbps Ethernet or better.
Solaris 8.
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- Mark 210-379-4635
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
Hi all,
I have a pile of Mac serial cables that I have no use for. See:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jja572/sets/72157628189994073/
If you want to save them from the recycle bin, make me an offer.
Shipping from Madison, WI 53714.
Thanks,
-Jon
I was wondering if any of you who are running gopher servers might be
interested in hosting a mirror of the Interactive Fiction Archive. See
http://www.if-archive.org/.
I got back into the Frotz codebase and this thought popped up.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Today, 11-11-11, seems like a nice day to announce the availability of
yet another PDP-11 implementation in VHDL.
I have created a website for my project, PDP2011 ? a re-creation of
the well known series of PDP-11 computer systems in VHDL. After nearly
four years of work, the project is almost finished; you can run a
complete Unibus PDP-11 system with console, disks and other
peripherals on a simple low cost FPGA development board. Original
operating system software, like V5-V7 versions of Unix and BSD 2.11
work.
I would like to invite you to come to
http://pdp2011.sytse.net/<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://pdp2011.sytse.net/&usg=AFQjCNHsCke6…>
Regards
Sytse
Ignore the half-baked stuff.
Fully baked seems to still be in progress. (I think Buck Henry was responsible for that line in The Graduate).
Progress is very slow and what progress there is, isn't really due to any of my efforts (don't have nearly enough time to play with -11's anymore) but to others.
Apache here is doing weird-ass stuff and serving up random alphabetical URL's as stuff that just happens to be in various public_html directories on my servers (apparently sometimes from other virtual domains...???) but which was never intended to be public in that sense. My fault for not understanding what Apache is doing.
Good evening to all DEC-Enthusiasts,
stumbling around the internet and my own archive I wondered about the
RSTS/E Distributions later than 9.6. I'd like to play with one of the last
versions but nothing seems to be available. Somewhere I had read about
licensing issues and the Mentec Discussion here. Does anyone know more of
the current RSTS/E Licensing status? Or even has a
distribution/documentation scanned? Any help with this questions would be
greatly appreciated!
Regards,
Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL
Operating System Collector
Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com
Homepage: www.eichberger.org
Hi,
Does anyone have a schematic for the Rhino Mark III Controller? I acquired
a Rhino robot arm and the B motor encoder channel seems to not be working
properly and I'd like to try to isolate which parts of the controller board
are unique to the B channel. Alternatively, if there are any Rhino
experts that could help point me in the right direction, that would also be
appreciated.
I think I've isolated it to a problem with the controller and not the
motor/encoder or the teach pendant. Using a scope, the output from the B
channel is very different than the other 7 channels.
Thanks...Win
>
>Picked up a Vaxstation 3100 today at the SRCS meeting. There is some
>minor corrosion on the memory and motherboard PCBs, some due to
>prolonged exposure to moisture, and some due to a leaking clock
>battery. I've cleaned up the corrosion and it doesn't appear to have
>done any serious damage.
>
>At POST it identifies itself as a KA42-A, which I believe makes it a
>Model 30.
>
Presumably it says VS42-A on the back of the box?
>
>I'm getting error messages from the POST and I'm unsure how to interpret
>them -- the manuals have not been 100% clear. Here's what I get:
>
>KA42-A V1.3
>
>F...E...D...C...B...A...9...8...7...6...5...4...3_..2_..1?..
>
>
> ? E 0040 0000.0005
> ? C 0080 0000.4001
> ? B 0010 000C.0081
>?? 1 00C0 0011.700E
>
>The (E) error I expect since there's no clock battery. The (C) is also
>expected since I don't have a keyboard/mouse plugged in (just using the
>serial console). Similarly, (1) is also expected since I don't
>currently have the ethernet interface hooked up to anything.
>
>(B) is what's confusing me -- my understanding is that a single question
>mark indicates a "soft" error, described in the manual thus: "Usually, a
>question mark (?) in the power-up summary indicates a soft error and the
>system may be usable without replacing any FRUs." OK. What does that
>mean for memory, and how do I interpret the error code? I know that the
>"000C" part indicates the amount of memory installed -- what does "0081"
>mean in this context, and should I be concerned?
>
Perhaps it is complaining about an error which is correctable by ECC?
>
>For further reference, "test 50" gives the following for memory:
>
> ? MEM 000C.0081
> 00400000
>
I've had a quick look in Vaxstation 3100 Maintenance Guide (EK-285AA-MG-001)
and it doesn't seem particularly clear to me either. It doesn't seem to
mention 0081 at all.
>
>The machine does boot (VMS 6.0 off of two very noisy 104MB drives) and
>it seems to work OK, though I haven't stressed it much yet.
>
Under VMS, does SHOW ERROR or ANALYSE /ERROR (given an early enough version
of VMS) shed any light?
>
>Any suggestions here would be much appreciated.
>
The manual does suggest running the field service system exerciser
(TEST 80000106 B) with a loopback connector on the serial port. Assuming this
is an MMJ socket, you just need to loop DSR to DTR (ie the two outer pins),
RXD to TXD and the two grounds in the middle to each other.
If any of the memory is on an expansion board, try removing it and repeating
the test to see if the problem is on the system board.
(I've had some battery corrosion problems in a VS3100. It doesn't look too
severe but test B seems to fail in the middle and go back to the start, repeating
over and over. I must get around to making a better attempt to clean it and
check the traces.)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.