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From: martin_asa_1960 <martin_asa_1960 at yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 24 Feb 2008 16:18
Subject: [FreeCycleLondon] Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound SW1
To: freecyclelondon at yahoogroups.com
Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound SW11
I'm offering these as far and wide because I'm not sure many people
will be interested as the MACs are that old.
On Offer:
x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225
Http adrress to image:
http://img.wiki.excite.co.jp/upload/apple/4b/4bf6409b62f70f0e112b03757
90a1bc3_600x528.jpg
x1 Power Macintosh 700/225
x1 Power Macintosh 7200/90
x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225
x1 Macintosh Performa 5500
x1 Apple MultiScan Display (Monitor) 15"(I think)
x2 old MAC keyboards
x1Pack of 10 MAC formatted diskettes(floppies?)
x1 Packard Bell Logitech 15" monitor. Good looking beast but heavy!
Model No: 5480E. Made '98
x1 Samsung Samtron 15" monitor. Model name: 55E
Also an assortment of cables that came withthe MACs
All have been in a dusty cupboard for years. I was told they all
worked...? I've used the last two monitors recently so I can verify
they work. As for the rest I assume it's only good for enthusiasts or
tinkerers or students who are desperate for machines/parts to set up
a network. This stuff is bulky and heavy; if you don't have a car or
van it's not worth your while getting in touch- I don't deliver.
--
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Hi all,
Available for pick-up now from Worthing, West Sussex, England are
twelve overfilled 34x24x25cm boxes of orange wall - VAX/VMS v3 and v4
era manuals. Or I can ship anywhere at your expense after 10 March.
Detail below (era-vol-title). Condition is reasonable - some cover
pages are less than pristine, while other manuals are still in their
shrink wrap.
Also for auction, shipping worldwide:
one VAXstation 4000/60 32MB+RZ25
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZtagq2
The equipment has been used for the VMS hobbyist programme,
and now awaits your hobbyist licenses :-).
More stuff probably available next month (a VT240+VR201 and a DECmate
III?), but for now you are welcome to walk off with / pay shipping
for:
- TCPware 5.4 printed docset: netcu command ref, management guide,
user's guide, programmer's guide, install/config guide;
- a VT520 with apparently stuck-full brightness;
- an HP A2094A CRT that has nothing to do with DEC but has been
sitting taunting me.
(1)
4-8-system messages and recovery procedures
VAX-11 Fortran u/g, ref manual, installation guide
4-2A-command language, system messages
4-7-MACRO and instruction set
(2)
3-8-Compatibility mode RSX-11M
3-3B-Text processing: TPU/EVE
4-8-as in (1)
3-3B-Text processing: VAX TPU ref.
(3)
MicroVMS 4.4 programming support manual
4-replacement binder-intro to sys routines, utility routines
4-" "-RMS manual, ana/rms, FDL
4-Guide to writing device driver for VAX/VMS
(4)
3-4A-utils ref, magnetic tape u/g, SORT/MERGE u/g
4-8-as in (1) (again!)
4-4C-utilities PHONE-VERIFY
(5)
MicroVMS user manual part 2
MicroVMS programming support manual (again) + progarmmer pocket
reference
sealed-User's primer, FORTRAN primer, release notes
promotional (SPD?) booklets: BASIC, BLISS, CLE, FORTRAN, MMS, RPG II,
ADA, COBOL, performance + coverage analyser, APL, DEC/test manager
4-4A-ACL editor through LATCP
(6)
4-Guide to networking on VAX/VMS
DEQNA ethernet user's guide
4-2-Command language: DCL dictionary
MicroVMS 4.4 programmer's manual
4-Guide to programming on VAX/VMS (FORTRAN edition)
(7)
TK50 user's reference card
Booklets:
Installing VAX/VMS on 8600 from HSC-based tape, " from magnetic tape
Installing VAX/VMS on 11-780 from HSC-based tape, " from magnetic
tape
Installing VAX/VMS on UDA-based 11/730 from magnetic tape
Running the UETP after installation
4-Guide to VAX/VMS file applications
4-Introduction to VAX/VMS
DECNET-RSX guide to network management utilities (1985)
Programming in VAX C 2.0
(8)
3-5B-System services/IO: IO user's guide volumes 1,2
3-1-General info, SPD etc.
VAX-11 FORTRAN 3.0 reference manual, user's guide, installation guide
(9)
4-1-Introduction, glossary etc.
4-2-Command language: DCL dictionary
4-1B-Release notes: vv4.2, 4.1, 4.0
(10)
3-7-VAX-11 Record Management Services
DEC CBI course administrator's guide (1982)
4-8-as in 1 (yet again!)
(11)
4-Guide to VAX/VMS disk and magnetic tape operations
4-Guide to using DCL + command procedures on VAX/VMS
MicroVMS 4 programming support manual (again)
(12)
4-Guide to VAXclusters
MicroVMS 4.4 user's manual part 1
3-4B-prog. development tools
4-1A-general info etc.
Please feel free to mail me if you have any questions.
--
Tom Garcia | tgarcia at hivemind.org
>From a local Freecycle group here in the UK, I could collect and store /
ship if anybody is interested in the list of bits (others in the UK, or US
if really interested !)
Contact me or Liam or Martin direct.
Mike
mike at brickfieldspark.org
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From: "Liam Proven" <lproven at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:05 AM
Subject: [personal] Offered: Ancient Macs & Monitors landfill bound, London
SW1
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: martin_asa_1960 <martin_asa_1960 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: 24 Feb 2008 16:18
> Subject: [FreeCycleLondon] Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound
> SW1
> To: freecyclelondon at yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound SW11
>
> I'm offering these as far and wide because I'm not sure many people
> will be interested as the MACs are that old.
>
> On Offer:
>
> x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225
> Http adrress to image:
> http://img.wiki.excite.co.jp/upload/apple/4b/4bf6409b62f70f0e112b03757
> 90a1bc3_600x528.jpg
>
> x1 Power Macintosh 700/225
>
> x1 Power Macintosh 7200/90
>
> x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225
>
> x1 Macintosh Performa 5500
>
> x1 Apple MultiScan Display (Monitor) 15"(I think)
>
> x2 old MAC keyboards
>
> x1Pack of 10 MAC formatted diskettes(floppies?)
>
> x1 Packard Bell Logitech 15" monitor. Good looking beast but heavy!
> Model No: 5480E. Made '98
>
> x1 Samsung Samtron 15" monitor. Model name: 55E
>
> Also an assortment of cables that came withthe MACs
>
> All have been in a dusty cupboard for years. I was told they all
> worked...? I've used the last two monitors recently so I can verify
> they work. As for the rest I assume it's only good for enthusiasts or
> tinkerers or students who are desperate for machines/parts to set up
> a network. This stuff is bulky and heavy; if you don't have a car or
> van it's not worth your while getting in touch- I don't deliver.
>
> --
> Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven
> Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com
> Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419
> AOL/AIM/iChat: liamproven at aol.com ? MSN/Messenger: lproven at hotmail.com
> Yahoo: liamproven at yahoo.co.uk ? Skype: liamproven ? ICQ: 73187508
>
>
>
-----------Original Message:
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:16:04 -0700
From: Tim Riker <Tim at Rikers.org>
Subject: Re: Friden Flexowriter
There seem to be more decwriters around and they can often be had for
cheaper. No paper tape punch/reader there though.
On another topic, I have a "Motorized Tape Punch - Model 2" made by
"Commercial Controls Corporation - Rochester 2, New York" which I
believe became Friden. I have no docs on it whatsoever. The real thing I
need to know is how to interface to it. It seems to be in adequate
physical shape, except for the chad tube. It was made of plastic and has
long since been broken off.
http://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-tapepunch
I'm very interested to hear of any known documentation for this beast.
There's a picture there with the case off, perhaps the Flexowriter punch
is similar inside?
--------------
Can't help you on the interface; almost looks homebrew, considering
it's built on perfboard. Has some previous owner perhaps already built
an interface?
Shouldn't be too hard to figure out though; looks like 8 lines to select
the byte, and there should be another to "clock" it in, i.e., engage
the clutch that drives the perforator. Looks like it could use a little
cleaning & some lube.
I have a unit that uses the same perforator mechanism; the motor runs
constantly and there's a solenoid that trips a clutch to drive the punch
shaft one revolution. There should be some cam switches inside that
cast housing for timing, and 9 interposer solenoids inside the perforator
that free or lock the perforator pins, and the selected ones are then driven
through the tape. (These solenoids actually look like little relays without
contacts).
I doubt that you'd need any parts (these were pretty heavy duty units)
but if you do, I've scrapped a few of these and still have some of the
mechanical parts (no chad tubes though, alas).
mike
Can any of you guys verify one way or the other what that device with the
tubes is that Dave is referring to in my group here?
Feel free to stop on by if you like. :-)
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Subject: [roys-tech-chat] Really Old Computer Stuff
Date: Wednesday 27 February 2008 13:50
From: "D" <wa4qal at yahoo.com>
To: roys-tech-chat at yahoogroups.com
I just added some photos in the Photos section of some really old
computer hardware. These are photos I've taken from my personal
collection.
One is what I've been told is the peripheral I/O register for an
IBM 704 computer (Note the vacuum tubes!).
Another is a core storage (memory) plane from an IBM System/360,
most likely either a model 60 or 65. This particular core plane
was defective, and has been cut out, so it's missing the connection
fingers on the sides of the plane.
The remaining two are a really old computing device. ;-)
Dave
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
A quick question--can you hook a Friden Flexowriter to a modern
computer? I'm not afraid to put together some sort of
interface/converter, but I haven't really found any information about
that kind of thing... if anyone here has experience with one of these,
your input would be greatly appreciated.
John
--
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Finally saw it in the paper. I notice they talk about how the VAX is
"so old that the University of Washington has an early model (of the
VAX) on display as a museum piece".
Hmm - they probably have an early IBM 5150 and Mac 128K on display as
well. What does that mean for the desktops that the school district has?
>
> I came up with the following from another source. Assumes ascii byte in
> A, returns binary in lower nibble of A
sui 3ch ; subtract the ascii base
cpi 0ah ; check for 0-9
rc
sui 07h ; subtract further for A-F
ret
Jeff Erwin
pretty short and seems to work as long as valid ascii is being sent.
>
>
> > Really this is pretty easy (this does NO error checking, and only
> accepts upper
> > case characters):
>
> Okay, being a dumb ol' bit-twiddler, I couldn't resist:
>
> (input character in A)
>
> adi 0c0h
> mov b,a
> sbb a
> ani 09h
> add b
> ani 0fh
>
> Okay, folks--anyone got a shorter sans-jump one? One that perhaps
> doesn't require an extra register? How about one that uses a DAA to
> do something sneaky?
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
I didn't find a lot of information from IBM support on the 6094 - but
I did get some. I have uploaded a old copy of IBM's RS/6000 Graphics
Handbook which describes the IBM 6094 LPFK. The LPFK information is
found in section 4.5.
The good news - in can be attached to a serial port on an RS/6000 or
PC - which means that it shouldn't be difficult to find the protocol
for the critter.
Not a lot of info in the manual - but something is better than
nothing ;-)
You can download a PDF of the manual via anonymous FTP from my
website:
ftp://bickleywest.com/IBM6094
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
Mountain View, CA
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Does anyone know how comprehensive the pwer-on Floating
Point Unit test (9) is in the Vaxstation/uVAX 2000 ?
Does it actually verify that the FPU is functional, or
is it just looking to see if some basic indications are
the it is present?
The (9) FPU test is performed at power-on, and also by
>>> TEST 9
I'm trying to determine if the FPU in my VS2000 is actually
working.
Will the console ROM run (normally) without an FPU?
Unfortunately the (hopefully more comprehensive) system tests
don't appear to test the FPU (or perhaps they don't see mine
and therefore won't test it).
Can anyone with a VS/uVAX 2000 tell me if:
>>> TEST 80000106
>>> 9
Actually runs a test (mine just displays the testing header
and halts. Another thing to try which takes longer is to run
>>> TEST 102
And note which tests it runs.
Mine runs:
F (video) - Only if set to VS2000
C (Serial)
B (memory)
7 (Hdc)
6 (TPC)
Noteably missing are:
E (clock)
D (nvram)
A (mmu)
9 (FPU)
8 (Timer)
5 (Interrupt controller)
4 (color FB) - I've got it removed
1 (Ethernet interface) - I've got it removed as well.
All of these pass during power-up and TEST n tests (if
I have them installed).
Problem is, I don't know if the system tests are supposed
to test these or not - I don't have a known good Vax2000
to compare with.
BTW: To run TEST 102 and 80000106 you need to have the system
test "hardware key" installed - this is just a DB-25 connector
on the serial-port with pins 12 and 18 connected together.
Thanks,
Dave
--
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dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Collector of vintage computing equipment:
http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html
I just checked this out at Weirdstuff - Two brand new MINDSET systems
with what looks like every accessory ever made for the critter,
including O/S, development software, documentation, the original
boxes, etc.
See: http://images.weirdstuff.com/full/Bay2.jpg
Here's information on how to bid (sealed bid auction):
1. The auction closes on 2/25/2008 at 6PM.
2. The Minimum bid is $26 per lot.
3. Winning bidders will be notified on following day by 12:00 PM.
4. Material must be paid for and picked up the same week.
5. Pickup times are 9:30 AM to 6PM, Monday through Saturday. 11AM-5PM
on Sunday. If you are not local to the S.F. Bay Area, shipping is
available.
6. Lots are sold AS-IS.
The Lot number for the MINDSETs is: #23
You can FAX your Bid to: 408-743-5655
NOTE: I am associated with Weirdstuff only as a client (someone who
buys stuff from them). I am not a collector of MINDSET gear, but
after seeing it in the bid sale, I felt that some folks on the list
would probably find this an interesting lot.
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
Mountain View, CA
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
> I happened to stumble over a posting that you made on the web about a
> year ago talking about installing some "Metaphor" computers. I am a
> former Metaphor engineer.
Is he talking about a different Metaphor?
Metaphor Computer was started by ex Xerox people (Dave Liddle) in
Silicon Valley.
> I have a slide show on my web site that they developed to
> celebrate the death of the company.
not obvious on the site.
Is there an implementation of Sun nd(4) (Network Disk) server other
than the one in NetBSD, by Matt Fredette?
Long story: Few days ago I fried SCSI controller on Indigo 2, and I'm
not gonna risk the same with my Sun 3/60. Few months ago I got SunOS
3.5 kernel to netboot using modified NetBSD ndbootd(8); it goes as far
as mounting rootfs. Then, just after printing the following line...
using 95 buffers containing 778240 bytes of main memory
... it just retries reading block number 16 over and over. I guess
the ND protocol implementation is wrong somehow. The whole transaction
goes like this; the only thing that changes is the "seq" field.
RECV: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 0 currcount 0 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 0 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 1024 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 2048 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 3072 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 4096 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 5120 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 6144 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ >
XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 7168 currcount 1024 op 0x11<READ DONE >
Any ideas?
--
If you cut off my head, what would I say? Me and my head, or me and my body?
Really this is pretty easy (this does NO error checking, and only accepts upper
case characters):
int hex (char ascii)
{
int value;
value = ascii - '0';
if (value > 9)
value += '0' - 'A' + 0x0A;
return value;
}
Improvements are left as an exercise for the reader/student.
--
Sorry,
No signature at the moment.
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Curt,
I happened to stumble over a posting that you made on the web about a
year
ago talking about installing some "Metaphor" computers. I am a
former Metaphor
engineer. I have a slide show on my web site that they developed to
celebrate
the death of the company. The software is still around, now called
"Meta5".
I don't want to invest too much in a note that I don't know will ever
be delivered,
but if it does make it to you, let me know, and I can fill you in.
-john-
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Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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Hello Rob,
I am interested to know if you still have any of your
Apple computers. Thank you.
Clay Cummins
alaskacc at yahoo.com
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I could be wrong, but there's something fishy going on over at eBay.
First an IMSAI and an Altair 680 being bid up to astronomical prices
and now a less than stellar SOL-20 goes for $7100.00 to someone who's
last couple of purchases were cell phones. This all this activity is
in fact some type of a scam, it is going to seriously hurt legitimate
buyers and sellers.
-Mardy
To Whom It May Concern
I'd like to know the E-Mail-Adress from Bob Maxwell. He wrote an article
in your forum about HP64000-floppys in the year 2004. I need more
Information about these floppys. I have the same problem. I want to get
the information out of 5.1/4"-hp64000-floppys. I'd like to store the files
at a windows95 or windowsXP-computer(or maybe dos). Can you please help
me?
With best regards S?nke Backhaus
(from Germany)
I remember the discussion about bringing classic computers across the
border from Canada to the USA, but, has anyone got any experiences going
the other way? Any issues since many of these systems are USA country of
origin? Especially with big iron, where you'd have a trailer or big truck...
Devon
---------------------------Original Message-----------------------------------
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:06:08 -0700
From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
Subject: Fwd: [alt.sys.pdp11] Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:38:28 +0100 (CET)
Groups: alt.sys.pdp11
From: Jeff Davis <jdaviscl2 at soupwizard.com>
Org: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Subject: Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff
Id: <Xns9A4BE64E9F5D4jdaviscl2soupwizardc at 194.177.96.78>
========
Just fyi, it's not my auction, but there's a pdp-11/34 in two racks, a tape
drive and large hard drives on ebay. Two days left, I figure somebody with
a big truck wants to save it.
I normally wouldn't post about an ebay auction, but this one doesn't
mention pdp-11 in the auction title and seems to have been overlooked.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120223434668
jdavis