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by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Could this indeed be useful, especially when sites like Bitsavers are indexed? I've been watching this fairly closely, since I started to see the content being OCRed on the mirrors.

17 years, 6 months

Somewhat OT: Google Indexing OCR'd PDFs

by josefcub＠gmail.com

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/picture-of-thousand-words.html Could this indeed be useful, especially when sites like Bitsavers are indexed? Josef -- "I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke." -- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs, "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein

17 years, 6 months

Old Heath Software - New In Box - Query

by n6ki＠sbcglobal.net

I have come acquired a Heathkit Box of an RTTY Software program, unopened and I do not want to open the box and ruin it's value to collectors The only number on the box are there SF-9006 00108 In the estate sale there was a unbuilt kit with an 8 inch disk drive that a ham friend of mine bought The box size is about 12" X 12" X 3" thick I expect it is full of Floppy disks and a manual or instruction sheet I expect there may be 8 inch floppies in it as if they were 5 inch, why would teh box be so big ??? Any info on contents and value appreciated Thanks 73, Dennis N6KI

17 years, 6 months

any Apollo fans out yonder?

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

I know I posted this before. But there's been so little feedback...

17 years, 6 months

anyone utilizing early Macs to access the internet?

by jvdg＠sparcpark.net

2008/10/31 Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com>: > Can any pre-Mac OS X system run a browser that supports modern websites? Not really. > This was the problem that caused my Mom to upgrade a couple years ago. > Besides now that they've been selling Intel-based Mac's for a few years, > doesn't the G5 2x2 I'm using count as an "early" Mac? :-) Considering "the Mac" as a family of computer systems celebrates its twenty-fifth anniversary next year, and the PowerMac G5, which was cancelled merely three years ago, certainly doesn't qualify as an "early Mac". IMHO, of course. :-P .tsooJ

17 years, 6 months

Looking for a ST419

by dm561＠torfree.net

-----------Original Message: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:48:21 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a ST419 On 30 Oct 2008 at 10:45, Chris Elmquist wrote: > I realize that the operating system had individual sector write-ability > but was that accomplished by read-modify-write of that individual sector > in a controller buffer and then the entire track rewritten? or did the > controller sync to the beginning of the specific sector and write it > in place? Just that way--like a floppy--there are address marks and sector headers that mark the beginning of each sector. At least that's the way most controllers work. Of course, since the data stream from an ST412 interface is just a raw bunch of pulses, one could record anything on a track that one wanted, within the electrical limits of the drive. Cheers, Chuck ----------------Reply: The Cromemco STDC ST506-type controllers are an example of a controller that *did* format/read/write entire 10K tracks (no physical sectors), with a four-track cache. m

17 years, 6 months

Drivetec Floppy Drives

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

-- "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote: On 30 Oct 2008 at 7:44, Jules Richardson wrote: >Reminds me of the old Drivetec floppies--formatted with an embedded >servo, so you didn't dare pick up used ones--they could be erased or >have errors that would render them useless. I've still got some of >the old Drivetec/Kodak drives and some media, but I'm not aware of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Whoa, hold the phone here. Okay, I'm trying to solve a twenty-year- old mystery. So, you say the media for these drives were made by Kodak? Did they, per chance, have *triangular* notches in place of the traditional rectangular ones? I'm asking, because in 1985 or '86 I was at an electronics scrap yard in L.A., and saw a *very* large heap of these kinda strange looking floppy drives. I don't remember too much about them, but I just remember they looked *weird*. The media was made by Kodak (something I had never seen before), and the notch on the edge of the floppy disk was *triangular*. I figured it was some special media for bio-medical equipment, or for some bizarre photographic process, or something. Anyways, I never saw drives (or floppies) like that ever again, and always wondered about it. They looked brand-new, and the whole incident sticks out in my mind because I remember the owner was mad as hell-- apparently he spent a small fortune on these things, but nobody wanted them because they weren't 'standard'. _____________________________________________________________ Live the good life! Click now for great retirement planning assistance! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mK7BUhrxexcthLC9q3BBc6Go…

17 years, 6 months

FrameMaker for SunOS

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I have ten (yes ten) boxes of FrameMaker v5 for SunOS. Includes manuals, CDROM, I think even license keys. I only opened one box, but I assume they're all the same. If anyone wants all of them, they are free for the cost of shipping, probably $40 or so. Let me know soon or they hit the trash. I'm not really interested in breaking them up. Contact me off-list if interested. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

17 years, 6 months

Help with Sun video

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

I'm hoping someone can shed light on this. For the past week, I've been battling to get my Sun Ultra-60 video switchable through a Belkin 8-port KVM switch. The monitor is a Samsung 214T 20" LCD. - Connect monitor directly to workstation with a 13W3 Sync-On-Green adapter (no passthrough of sync signals): Works fine. - Connect monitor directly to workstation with a 13W3 adapter that brings out H+V sync: Works fine. - Connect either of the above to a port on the KVM switch: Switch does not recognize that anything is connected and refuses to pull in the relay (I can hear an audible click from any channel with recognized video). The status LED on the KVM keeps flashing to say "no one there!". Obviously no video. - Purchase Belkin Sun adapter box from eBay and connect it between the U60 and the KVM: KVM recognizes that video is there and pulls in the relay. The monitor _seems_ to believe that something is there, as the blinking green "nothing attached to me" LED goes solid on. However, nothing ever appears on the screen. I tried all DIP switch settings on the adapter (connected to Sun monitor sense lines). - In desperation, connect monitor directly to HD15 port on the Belkin adapter: Same thing. Solid green LED, no display. The same machine worked perfectly through an older 4-port Belkin unit (that I've outgrown, thus the 8-port). What on earth am I missing here? I don't even see a common denominator, but am hoping that someone more familiar with the details of Sun video can give me a nudge in the right direction. On the subject of the Belkin KVM: Is it possible that their "detection" is simply looking for a grounded pin or a pair of pins looped back by virtue of the computer being connected? Maybe expecting a voltage? If I could trick it into activating the port, I could just feed through from the 13W3 adapter and be done with it. Naturally Belkin's site has no information at this low level of detail... Steve --

17 years, 6 months

Osborne and unusual TI Terminal in Weirdstuff Bid Sale...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I dropped by Weirdstuff today and found a clean Osborne and a dusty (but unusual) TI Terminal in their Bid Sale. You can see pictures of them via: ftp://bickleywest.com/ws/ or ftp bickleywest.com User: anonymous Password: your email address cd ws Here's the info on the WS bid sale: http://www.weirdstuff.com/sunnyvale/html/bid_sale.htm Note that you can FAX you bids to WS. The webpage doesn't say it - but they will ship items won in the bid sale. I have no monetary interest in the auction or sale of these items. I am a "regular" bidder at WS - but will not be bidding on either of these items (otherwise I wouldn't be posting them to the list, would I ;-) Cheers, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA 94040 http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

17 years, 6 months

Seeking manual for Farallon Ether10-T Starlet/16 hub ($$$)

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

I'm seeking the manual for a Farallon Ether10-T Starlet/16 hub (circa 1994-1995). I'm willing to pay $50 for it. If you have one, please contact me directly (and immediately). Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

17 years, 6 months

DG Tapes: Nova Fortran IV

by julianskidmore＠yahoo.com

Hi folks, It seems to me that self-hosting 16-bit compilers for old minicomputers are very thin on the ground. Yet from my viewpoint they are interesting and worth preserving, because they are a good demonstration of what could be achieved using fairly limited hardware. Recently, I've been looking at the Data General RDOS Fortran IV compiler manual. It seems a very comprehensive version of the language, and it's actually Fortran '66 with some extensions, and looks very practical. However, the standard RDOS images for SIMH don't come with the Fortran compiler, only assembler. Here are the only two references I've found on the net for the Fortran IV tapes: http://www.chookfest.net/nova3/paper-tapes.html http://www.ludd.luth.se/~ragge/nova/swdocs.html How easy would it be to get these tapes transcribed; dumped onto an RDOS disk and made available for SIMH? -cheers from julz @P __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

17 years, 6 months

Looking for a ST419

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

I am in the market for a known working ST419 MFM disk System software forces me to the 306 Cyl / 6 Heads format (@ 32 256-byte sectors ) Location : Switzerland . Jos Dreesen

17 years, 6 months

DEC AlphaServer 8400 for Trade

by hoelscher-kirchbrak＠freenet.de

I will trade off my AlphaServer 8400 for a VAX-11/750. This is the AlphaServer 8400 current configuration: 8 CPUs = 4*Dual-CPU 300 MHz E2056-DA 4GB Memory = 2*2GB MS7CC-FA 2 KFTIA I/O Modules (4*SCSI / 2*Network) E2054-AA 1 Bus-Terminator E2034-AA 3 48V DC Power Supplies 303379602 3 BA356 StorageWorks SCSI-Boxes 12 DEC SCSI-Drives (RZs) 1 AlphaServer 8400 PCI Box There are some AlphaServer 8400 spares that will go together with the computer: 1 48V DC Power Supply 303379602 2 CPUs = 1*Dual-CPU 300 MHz E2056-DA 2GB Memory = 1*2GB MS7CC-FA 1 Bus-Terminator E2034-AA 1 Box BA655-AA The AlphaServer 8400 is in working condition, but without software and licenses. The only known deficiency is that the console CDROM drive (RRD45) does not open properly, but is nevertheless usable. The condition of the spares is unknown. The AlphaServer 8400 system is located in Northern Germany. What do I expect in return: - A VAX-11/750 in working order - 1MB VAX-11/750 memory - A working VAX-11/750 disk subsystem (controller & drive, any model) - A DEUNA or DELUA UNIBUS ethernet adapter All items are negotiable. The VAX-11/750 will become part of my private collection of VAX computers and will be used to run VMS version 2, 3 & 4, ULTRIX-32 and some old UNIX versions. Regards, Ulli (The VAXorcist)

17 years, 6 months

QUME DT/8 - current progress

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

**On /Wed Oct 29 20:33:08 CST 2008/ Glen Slick wrote: //> >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Jonathan Gevaryahu <jzg22 at drexel.edu <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>> wrote: >>/ Secondly, I cannot source one of those ?locking? Shugart DC power plugs to />>/ fit into the connector, the connector which looks like (paste in notepad): />>/ _________ />>/ | | />>/ | 0 0 0 | />>/ |__ ____| />>/ __| |____ />>/ | | />>/ | 0 0 0 | />>/ |_________| />>/ /> >http://www.mouser.com/ > >Housing: 1-480270-0 >Contact: 60619-1 Thanks! I was looking in the completely wrong place for this part, and I had NO idea what it was called. "Mate-N-Lok" -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(@t)hotmail(d0t)com jzg22(@t)drexel(d0t)edu

17 years, 6 months

HP9133D disk replacement.

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

Closely related to the previous post : I actually have an ST419, but is in use inside a HP9133D. Looking back to old classiccmp articles indicate that it is not easy to replace the ST419 by other MFM drives of different geometries. Has this changed ? i.e can somebody report a success in replacing the internal drive of an HP9133 ? Jos

17 years, 6 months

QUME DT/8 - current progress

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

Ok, thanks to many people calling my foul on terms of how the drive works, I have figured out what I need to get it up and running for the most part. I wired up a power connector for the spindle motor and verified (first with a meter, then by applying power) that indeed the spindle motor works properly. Now: I could use verification that the diagram for wiring the 50 pin 8" shugart connector to the 36 pin 5.25" shugart connector which is in the cp/m faq (http://www.faqs.org/faqs/CPM-faq/) is correct. Secondly, I cannot source one of those ?locking? Shugart DC power plugs to fit into the connector, the connector which looks like (paste in notepad): _________ | | | 0 0 0 | |__ ____| __| |____ | | | 0 0 0 | |_________| I'm wondering if I should just solder wires to the pcb to supply gnd, 5v and 24v, or does someone know where I can get one of those plugs which mates with that connector, or perhaps has one spare? Thirdly, what should I set the jumpers and fuse-block to, to allow this to work properly with a catweasel or anadisk? Thanks for all the help so far! -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(@t)hotmail(d0t)com jzg22(@t)drexel(d0t)edu

17 years, 6 months

Looking for a ST419

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

-- ethan.dicks at usap.gov wrote: >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:13PM +0000, jeff.kaneko at juno.com wrote: >> Geez, the 419 was uncommon, even in it's own time. > >Indeed. I don't ever recall running across one. > >> There's some difference (which I have been unable to quantify) >> between different models of MFM drives (of equal or similar >> geometry) that allows some drives to work in some applications, >> but not others. >> >> If there's anyone out there intimately familiar with the >> ST-506/412 interface, now would be a good time to offer >> some suggestions as to why this is so. > >If you had to play with MFM and RLL drives back in the day, >there were *four* drive geometry parameters you had to match >up with what your controller/firmware was expecting: > >Cylinders >Heads >Write Precomp >Reduced Write Current > >RWC was important with the ST-506 standard, but, IIRC, it fell >away with the ST-412 standard, and the pin that the controller >used to tell the drive to reduce the write current was recycled >as another head-select line, allowing an ST-412-compatible drive >to have 9-16 heads. More modern drives kept track of which track >they were on and handled RWC internally, sometimes based on the >Write Precomp value, I think. A-HA! I think you nailed it! That explains why you could use an older drive that could be used with an XT controller, on an AT comntroller, but *NOT* vice-versa! I was totally unaware that the fourth head-select line on the bigger drives had been previously used for RWC. > >I don't know anything about the HP9133D, but I did fiddle with >plenty of MFM and RLL drives on ISA controllers and non-PC >controllers (DEC RQDXn, Commodore D9060/D9090, Dialog DQ614, etc., >etc.) There was no hard and fast rule that X drive could always >be replaced by Y drive of a larger size, but there were many >specific cases where it worked - one I've done is replacing a >Tandon TM602S with a Seagate ST225 in a Commodore D9060. They >have the same number of heads (4), and although the ST225 is 20MB >and the TM602S is 5MB, what you end up with is a 75%-unused >ST225, and there's no conflict between the Write Precomp and the >RWC parameters. OKay, looks like the 9133 wants a drive that supports RWC (or, at least, does not have a fourth head select bit!). Looks like the write precomp has to match also. Wow, I must have led a sheltered life: This is the first instance I've seen where the RWC and precomp actually have a discernable effect. I'll have to consult my drive guide to confirm this . . . . Thanks Ethan! _____________________________________________________________ Find the apartment of your dreams by clicking here now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3miigqNmkWe4aQzJukOnbX02v…

17 years, 6 months

last call for free-for-shipping stuff

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I offered some stuff here as free for shipping. They were claimed, but the claiments seem to have disappeared. This is your last call. All of this stuff is packed and ready to go. I'm starting a "Free For Shipping" page at http://frotz.homeunix.org/freestuff/ beginning with the below-listed items. Does anyone have a cleaner idea for doing this? Is the classic computer marketplace back up? * Morrow MicroDecision 3 with two extra motherboards. When turned on, the power supply hums but nothing else happens. Maybe with the two spares boards you can fix it. Two floppy drives are present. I never got a reply from the one who wanted this. Weight 25 pounds. * UniPlus UNIX manual set. It seems complete. This one was offered in March. Claiment was contacted a couple weeks ago who still expressed interest (you know who you are). Weight 11 pounds. * Empty 8-inch floppy drive cabinet with power supply. I forgot who wanted this one, so I'm tossing it to you. First email gets it. Weight 13 pounds. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 6 months

VAXstation keyboard on a Wyse terminal?

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

On Ebay auction number 110304716214 is what is claimed to be a keyboard for assorted Wyse terminals with an RJ-9 jack. However the keyboard shown looks more like a VAXstation / vt220 keyboard. I'm not talking just about the layout, but the case too. I have some VAXstation keyboards already. Dare I try them with my Wyse 99GT? -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 6 months

DIGITAL 5 1/4 Floppies

by trebor72＠execpc.com

I have a package containing five DIGITAL 5 1/4 Floppies as follows BJ-P598-RV SELECT/V2.30 MASTER BIN RX18 LIC. TO DIGITAL EQUIP. CORP. DIGITAL TESTED 1981 SELECT INFO. SYS. INC. RJ-P599B-RV SELECT/V2.30 SUPERSPL BINRX18 LIC. TO DIGITAL EQUIP. CORP. DIGITAL TESTED 1981 SELECT INFO. SYS. INC. BJ-P600B-RV SELECT/V2.30 INST/TCH BINRX18 LIC. TO DIGITAL EQUIP. CORP. DIGITAL TESTED 1981 SELECT INFO. SYS. INC. Copy Working Installed Select Master Copy Working Select Install/Teach If any one is interested E-Mail me and we can discuss them Bob in Wisconsin

17 years, 6 months

ADDS VP90 terminal info

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone here know anything about the ADDS VP90 serial terminal? I'd like to somehow find a keyboard for it and get rid of it. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 6 months

QUME DT/8 - anyone have a manual/schematic for this?

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

I have a Qume DT-8 8" DS drive here which I'm trying to restore/repair to dump a number of 8" floppies, but I lack the manual and schematic for it, and I have no idea what the pinout for the data/power/spindle drive/etc connectors is. It doesn't use a standard shugart connector for data at least, its a 50-pin thing, so I'll need to make some sort of pinout converter once I know the proper pinout. The 2 terminators are both installed. I do know the drive needs 5v and 24v to run, and I'm not about to power it up without checking EVERYTHING first. I'm also missing the funny 3-pin and 6-pin molex-like connectors used to supply power to the pcb and the spindle motor, if anyone has any spares. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(@t)hotmail(d0t)com jzg22(@t)drexel(d0t)edu

17 years, 6 months

STR LINK IIa

by robert.galipeau＠ge.com

It's old post but if you are still looking for a STR-LINK II let me know. STR LINK IIa Jack Gershon jgershon at steelindustriesinc.com <mailto:cctech%40classiccmp.org?Subject=STR%20LINK%20IIa&In-Reply-To=> Fri Aug 8 09:40:42 CDT 2003 * Previous message: Retro printer ribbons still up for grabs <017922.html> * Next message: Interesting Burroughs Photo Site <017905.html> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] <date.html> [ thread ] <thread.html> [ subject ] <subject.html> [ author ] <author.html> I saw a post of yours from last year. I have a manual for this item if you still require it. I am actually looking for a replacement for our STR LINK IIa, or at the very least, the belt for the tape drive on it. Jack * Previous message: Retro printer ribbons still up for grabs <017922.html> * Next message: Interesting Burroughs Photo Site <017905.html> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] <date.html> [ thread ] <thread.html> [ subject ] <subject.html> [ author ] <author.html> More information about the cctech mailing list <http://dewey.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech> GE Aviation ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ b Bob Galipeau Cell Support Leader Plant IV Maintenance General Electric Company 1000 Western Ave MD 164M1 Lynn, MA 01910 * Phone: (781) 594-6426 dial comm 263-6426 * Mobile: (781) 858-5998 * Fax: (781) 594-7815 dial comm 263-7815 * E-mail: robert.galipeau at ge.com

17 years, 6 months

Manual for MS780-E/F?

by IanK＠vulcan.com

Does anyone have documentation for the later MS780-E, based on the M8375/76 modules? I have the engineering drawings (thanks, Bitsavers!), but I'd like to find documentation similar to what exists online for the earlier subsystems (the 1978 docs). I'm troubleshooting a MS780-E in a VAX-11/785, and I'd like to understand just what I'm supposed to do about that glaring red LED (it's a misconfiguration indicator of some sort). I'm getting SBI errors while trying to run the diagnostics, and the memory subsystem seems the likely culprit. Thanks! -- Ian

17 years, 6 months

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