subsequently swallowed by HP. In which case - yes. Got a few too, but all HP branded ;-) -Rik -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh

tell me more :) --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. <rescue at hawkmountain.net> wrote: I just picked up a Domain 3500. Sadly no keyboard, which I believe is proprietary (?) 3W3 video, too, but that one I can figure out. Is DomainOS unobtainable?

Simon Fryer wrote: Hmm, I can't remember if that works. I have a feeling that Domain won't boot without a proper Domain keyboard, at least on the 4xx series machines - maybe the earlier systems are more forgiving. It would probably be beneficial to the world at large if someone were to reverse-engineer the Domain keyboard protocol and come up with a PIC-based solution that would allow the use of a PC keyboard; Apollo systems seem at least ten times more available than the Domain keyboards that should go with them! :-( <aol>me too</aol> Mine were kindly sent by a list member, so there's at least another set floating around, too. cheers Jules

-------------- Original message from "Simon Fryer" <fryers at gmail.com>: -------------- Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. The DN-3xxx where also used as headless servers and used the serial port to load and set it up. only problem the connector has 3 ports in one. they used a special 1>3 cable to break it out. Just remove the video card. - jerry

2008/9/10 Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>: It should be a simple case of not having a keyboard. I don't think removing the graphics card is necessary. I don't recall it being anything special, so 9600 baud, 8 data bits no parity should work just fine. The 1 > 3 serial cable is pretty trivial to make if you have a soldering iron. The first serial port - the one that does console action - is at all the usual pins for PC crippled 25 pin RS232. At least pins 2,3 and 7! Later versions are on tape. O/S is DomainOS. Latest version of DomainOS needs the November 1997 date patches. I am guessing close to abandonware - but not quite. As I understand it, HP is still the copyright holder. I seem to remember reading something that effectively states that the license goes with the hardware - so by owning the hardware you effectively have a license to run DomainOS on that hardware. I'll recheck this next time I can get at a booting DomainOS machine. Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh

Hi All I should have one or two brochures around I will scan and post them this week, I have some press release stuff I was not planning to scan yet but I will check it and see if there is any thing of interest Regards mark ________________________________________________________________________________________ Mark Brennan, System Engineer, Fujitsu Services, Airside Business Park, Swords, County Dublin, Ireland Mobile: +353-87-222-2326 Telephone: +353-1-813 6000 Facsimile: +353-1-813 6600 email: mark.brennan at ie.fujitsu.com Web: ie.fujitsu.com This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents are subject to a duty of confidence and may be privileged. Fujitsu Services does not guarantee that this e-mail has not been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jochen Kunz Sent: 14 September 2008 07:19 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: any Apollo fans out yonder? On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:34:25 -0500 "Jason T" <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote: The DN3[05]00 machines have two switches at the back. A reset switch and a service mode switch. If the later is in the upper position the machine will go to serial console. IIRC. -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

could someone kindly give us a break down of their earlier models. I've just become the proud owner of a 3500/3550 mobo. 25mhz 68030, math chip or memory manageer right next to it (ok it's probably a coprocessor, barely looked at the thing). Big black piece of custom logic, otherwse all ttl and simple programmable logic. I have a picture if anyone wants to help me identify it (and what memory it needs, what ISA cards it can use, p/s, etc). --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. <rescue at hawkmountain.net> wrote:

G'Day, On 12/09/2008, Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com> wrote: [early models] There is an Apollo FAQ out there somewhere. I *should* have a copy but I don't seem to have with me at the moment. It seemed to go into the different hardware models and supported hardware in reasonable detail. As far as I know, the 3500 was a 3000 with some minor improvements. Opening the box - nothing stood out as being different between them. Internally there could be a couple of minor differences. In terms of memory and hardware, unless you have a complete unit, things are a little difficult. Running from memory here. * Memory is custom Apollo memory. There is nothing on board. You need the memory cards. * The etherenet network card is a 3com model - exact model escapes me at the moment. You will probably need Apollo ROMs to use the card. * Graphics - custom frame buffers. Nothing PC will work. Although I stand to be corrected here. * Hard Disk Controller - was a Western Digital ESDI model. Model escapes me at the moment. I am not sure if there is a ROM issue - assuming you could find a controller. * Hard Disk. There was only a couple of ESDI hard disks that are supported. Good luck finding some. * SCSI. Yes. It was supported and you could hang a larger HDD off the Apollo if you had a SCSI controller. I have no idea about booting or the model of SCSI controller that worked. * Adaptec Tape Controller - I think this was a generic PC unit with nothing special ROM wise. Again, find the right model. * Power Supply. A standard PC power supply could be grafted in to replace the Apollo supply. This was in the days of AT power supplies. ATX is doable, but at more risk and with the assumption you know how to jerry-rig the ATX supply. * PC parallel and serial cards were reported to just work and the DomainOS/Aegis documentation gave instructions on how to set it up. In short. It is a M68K big endian system with a bus for a 80286/80386 little endian bus. Anything with smarts generally had custom ROMs but most of the cards themselves were also seen within PCs. [chomp] Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh

2008/9/12 r.stricklin <bear at typewritten.org>: Is that the 16-bit ISA Etherlink 16? If so, I think I have 2 or 3 of those in my bits pile. Free if anybody wants 'em. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat: liamproven at aol.com ? MSN/Messenger: lproven at hotmail.com Yahoo: liamproven at yahoo.co.uk ? Skype: liamproven ? ICQ: 73187508

On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Liam Proven wrote: It isn't. The Etherlink 16 is 3C507. ok bear