Well, I myself an a fellow shipmate stationed at Groton, Connecticut. As
hard as it seems to believe, I have only been in since August the 10th.
> At the moment, I have a bit of an identity crisis going on.
>I'm Navy working on an Air Force base and am supposed to be working
>supply but currently work for the IS Dept. because they needed
>another person, especially one with Mac skills. Just 3 more years
>and I can 'retire' from Navy life and move on! I know i've seen at
>least one other .MIL address post to this list at some point though.
>
> Jeff
>
>P.S. what's your background since you obviously know something about
>Navy rates?
>--
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> Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
> http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
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Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/
Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
"Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82
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Anyone ever heard of a Data General machine from the 70s with the model
designation CS-20 or CS-30?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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Hi all
I went back to the place where I got the HX-40 and got...
An HP 150 II
a PET 4016
a Kaypro 2X
a busted TRS8- 100 but with a good screen so I can fix the one from
yesterday
a printer for the TI 59
Books Books and more books
a number of sextan magazine
An IBM AT Keyboard with unusual color (Brown and the IBM logo is Black)
Various Atari Joysticks and softwares
an ET 3300 unbuilt (not quite the 3400 but good anyway)
Lots of miscelaneous odds and ends like a sperry univac front pannel
I'm going back for a few Z100 and MAC stuff that I have not yet started to
look at
They also had a Compaq portable II with the cloth carrying bag, load of
printers and monitors
What looks like a PDP 11 clone, bunch od apple II cales new in the box and
super serial cards never opened. Terminals, VAX 3100, some SUN stuff.
That's all I can remember for now.
Francois
>Anyone have any idea how hard it would be to build a box with a DIMM in
it
>that looked like an RL02?
>
> Zane
I know how but it would take at least three more rounds with the flu to
convince
me of the sanity of doing it..
Consider this both RL02 and ESDI both use a SERIAL data path with a
FORMAT
defined but standard and the media. Thats a hell of a lot of trouble to
go to when disks
in the 32mb and smaller range are easy to find. Sure you get to use
existing drivers
but you have put a immense amount of time in the emulating of the disk so
it interfaces.
To ing it right, and simpler would be sothing like a DRV11 and a couple
of simms
add to that the glue to do refresh and battery back up and you done.
Then you need
a driver.
Allison
At the top right under 2 red toggles, and LED's is
Model no. MPC-75
675001
issue a
serial no. 055
date 10 82
on the bottom right are AIR LAND SYSTEMS and 2 pins
labelled spkr terms.
The bottom is 2 groups of 22 pins
the first group has a break between pins 7-8 and the
second group between 13-14
A PROM1 is labelled NTRKBD .101-1-1.2683 in pencil
on the top left below a 25 pin connector with 2 missing in
the centre.
On the left edge is CCA 94V0 8-82
card is about 10" by 7"
the pins groups are 3.5" with a 1.25" gap
The CS/20 and CS/30 are microNOVA based machines, I can't speak for the
CS/30 but the CS/20 dates to 1978... I'm not at all surprised that he would
have bought it through Intel, during the late 70's and early 80's Intel was
making memory boards for DG machines and also for PDP-11's, both Qbus and
Unibus.
Will J
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>Actually you've got me thinking there. Considering that RAM is dirt
>cheap these days. I'm wondering what it would take to build a RL02 drive
>that is actually a RAM disk (of course you'd be able to fit several disks
>on one stick of RAM), and what kind of performance you'd get. Off course
>I'm not a hardware type, so I don't know how hard that would be.
Hmmm... don't the MS630/MS650 boards simply get power from the bus,
and memory transactions are over the PMI cable? If so, then what
about some sort of Qbus option which looks like a disk, but has a
connector on it so that it connects to the MS6xx board... ready-made
memory farm which could be used as a disk... (And don't some of the
boards come in 16mb and 32mb flavors?)
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
No, it won't show up on the bus. All transactions on that board occur
over the cable interconnect.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
A friend of mine paid out $15 for a PS/2 8555, or model 55SX thinking it was
PCI interfaces (newby, doesn't know what microchannel is). Anyway I told him
that it was microchannel and NOT to put any PCI's in it, which he was smart
enough to heed. I looked the unit over and it has a Procom IDE hard drive
interface and is a complte main unit. Of course it doesn't have the monitor,
keyboard or mouse but is otherwise a complete main unit with hard drive,
floppy, token ring card and memory and (of course) has built-in serial,
parallel, video, mouse and keyboard ports. I believe it runs a 386SX-16
processor and has a coprocessor socket as well. It uses 72 pin SIMMs as
well, has 2mb in it now. Cosmetically it's in really good condition as well.
Now that he knows it isn't suitable for his needs he wants to get what he
has into it - the $15 (plus shipping of about 18-20 lbs). Anyone out there
want a 55SX that you can adapt more than the standard 55SX? I'll be cleaning
and testing it this weekend and if there are no firm repsonses by next
Friday I'll toss it on eBay to see what it gets. Email me direct at
rhblake(a)bigfoot.com if you have questions or wish to put a firm hold on it
for yourself. First come, first served.
>If I remember correctly, the Pentium came out around 1993, about four
>years after the 486 came out around 1989. If the engineering, design
and
>technical capability that led to the Pentium had been around in 1980,
the
>technical superiority that the PDP-11 enjoyed over the PC might have
>pushed DEC hard enough to upgrade the PDP-11 systems.
Ah, is that hit on the head healing or is the ethanol talking... DEC did
improve the PDP-11. Back in the 70s they created the VAX and just
when pentium getting remotely close there was Alpha.
>For commercial systems, operation at the high end can also be
>compared in favour of E11. With a fast Pentium III and E11,
>running PDP-11 software is less expensive and faster than with
>the fastest PDP-11 hardware.
E11 may be good and all but it runs on PCs and their record for
reliability
is not that of a native PDP-11... yet!
>But back to my original question and Zane's response plus the low
>price of memory. Might it be possible to design and produce a
>Qbus board which uses memory as the disk and have an interface
>like the HD: on E11 rather than MSCP? Considering that from
>the lack of a response on my original question in regard to the
>use of the 8 MByte of memory, it may be just as easy to start
>from scratch. By the way, on the "Full" commercial E11, the
>command is: "MOUNT HD0: RAM:/SIZE:bytes"
>and HD0: can be replaced by any of the emulated drives as well.
Nonrotataing didks for PDP-11s are really old news, seems EMC
and AMPEX were names I remember.
Allison
Hi all,
I got today an EPSON HX-40. it looks exactly like the HC-41 that I've been
wondering about.
It seems like the hc-41 is a OEM'd version of the HX-40 with a different
keyboard.
The HC-41 I have was used to control a CNC machine of some sort.
Pretty cool....
Francois
PS: I also scored a TRS80 100, a pair of COCO joystics a lisa mouse new in
the box and a bunch of magazines: popular electronics Nov 1975 with an
article about the Altair 680 and a bunch of Remark (one with the
introduction of the hero 2000)
Oh and a diagnostic cart for the COCO too.
> Isn't the max memory in a MicroVAX II 13 MB? Mine has 1 MB
>on the CPU board, an 8 MB board, and a 4 MB board and it is my
>understanding that this is maxed out.
No, 16mb If you use two 8mb boards it disables the onboard 1mb.
Allison
Al Gross, the Toronto-born man many call the "father of wireless
communication," has died at age 82.
"If you have a cordless telephone or a cellular telephone or a walkie
talkie or beeper," Gross once said, "you've got one of my patents." He
added that if his patents on those technologies hadn't run out in 1971,
"Bill Gates would have to stand aside for me."
http://canadacomputes.com/v3/story/1,1017,5603,00.html
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
In addition to the books I posted earlier: Make it an even $10.00, and
I'll throw in a reference manual and product data book for the Nmos
'Transputer.'
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
First person to send me $8.50 (that's $5 for the books and $3.50 Priority
Mail) gets the following.
1986: VAX Architecture Handbook.
1982: Programming in VAX-11 'C'
PayPal works great. Thanks much.
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
We have a collection of test programs stored on 8" floppies which were part
of a Fairchild F70
PCB tester. We're trying to convert them to be read by a PC.
A field Eng. from Schumberger (who took over the Fairchild tester
line) tells me the
8" drive was a Shugart SA850/851.
We need to know the format information. We have a couple of old 8"
drives, but can't seem to make out the format. I noticed in one of the
emails that you mentioned a SA850 manual.
Does the manual contain information regarding the disk format? If
so, is there anyway
we could get a copy of the manual?
Any information you could give would appreciated.
Thanks
Dan Kuse
Lockheed Martin NE & SS - Mitchel Field
Mail Station C3-002
55 Charles Lindbergh Blvd.
Uniondale, NY 11553
Voice: 516-228-2809
Fax: 516-228-3040
Ok... I've taken the "Toss it to the Wolves" approach, and posted an HP
88780 SCSI 9-tracker on E-pay. If anyone's even remotely interested, it's
at this link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212301804
Don't have a clue if this will help find it a home, but I started it off
at $25.00, no reserve, with the caveat that it is heavy and that shipping
would probably be costly. It's also a Diff-SCSI interface, which may cause
grief for some folks.
Sound for the day: Sploog.
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http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
Can anyone on the list help me out with my SGI's?
I made a trade a trade for 2 Personal Iris 4D/35's. Cool lookin' computers,
however, I have a few problems.....
Neither one has a KB, Mouse or Monitor, and although a decent SVGA works
fine, I can't for the life of me find the KB/Mouse for these anywhere (they
have the ps2 style connector, but are *not* ps2 compatable).
After hooking them up to a Dumb Terminal I find that they both work (at least
up to the prom) and 1 actually will boot into Irix 4.0.2... The other has no
detectable OS.
The one that *does* boot to Irix has a root password that I don't have (of
course).
Is there any way to gain root access on that machine other than removing the
drive and mounting it on another box to change the passwd / crack it?
After I do actually get the one box running can I somehow transfer the OS
>from one to the other? I read somewhere there was a prom command to
duplicate hard drives???
Is there someone on the list willing to part with an old copy of Irix? These
machines will only run up to 5.0.3 I think.. Anyone have a spare KB/Mouse
for these machines? I can run them (when I get them working) from a Dumb
Terminal, but would rather experience the famous SGI GUI.
Any other hints / tips / suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
-Linc F.
Hello, all:
I got the following message from someone. Can we help him out??
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas J Leon [mailto:nicholas@binary9.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32 AM
> To: rcini(a)msn.com
> Subject: TRS-80 Magazines
>
> Greetings!
>
> I am currently trying to prove that I am the author of an old TRS-80
> program that someone else has taken credit for, Bullet-80.
>
> At one point, in the early 80's, I was written up in a small magazine (not
> Compute, not Byte, something smaller) for this. Unfortunately it was 20
> years ago and I can't remember what the magazine was.
>
> When you are looking through all your old stuff, could you do me a favor
> and keep an eye out for my name? (And the name of Joe Simon, too). At the
> time I was 13-years-old and living in Wilton, CT.
>
> Your help in this would be much appreciative.
>
> Thank you!!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------- nicholas j leon
> [personal web] http://nicholasjleon.com
> [email ] sig(a)nicholasjleon.com
> [work ] Eagle Design & Management
> [work web ] http://www.aerie.com
> [work email ] nicholas(a)aerie.com
> [pgp ] http://nicholasjleon.com/plan.txt
> [top secret
> messenger ] http://nicholasjleon.com/mypublic.tsm
> --------------------------------------------------------- elegance through
> Proud resident of Greensboro, NC simplicity
>
>
> >There are *updates* to 7.5 (like 7.5.1, etc) that are freely
> >available from Apple's sites, but I've never seen 7.5 itself
> >freely available for download.
>
> I only have a direct link to the Swedish version of 7.5.3, but there are a
lot
> of English versions. Let me have a look.
> Hmm, here is a truncated link to version 7.0.1:
> ftp://ftp.apple.com ...
> /System/Older_System/System_7.0.x/System_7.0.1.smi.bin
> Ah yes, here is 7.5.3:
> http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11346
>
> It's just a matter of looking around, or perhaps reading
> Pickle's classic Mac
> FAQ. Try to have a look at http://www.lowendmac.com/.
I think you're missing my point.
System 7.5 was a retail-boxed version of MacOS, as was
System 7.1, and NEITHER of them are available for free
download.
The last version of MacOS that was available for free
download was OS 7.0.1.
Everything else that's available is an UPDATE, and CAN NOT
be used for a fresh install. You can't, for example, install
System 7.5.3 on a Macintosh UNLESS it already has 7.5 or 7.5.1.
Respectfully,
-doug quebbeman
On February 2, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> Isn't the max memory in a MicroVAX II 13 MB? Mine has 1 MB
> on the CPU board, an 8 MB board, and a 4 MB board and it is my
> understanding that this is maxed out.
No, the MicroVAX-II maxes out at 16mb (two 8mb boards). In that
configuration, the 1mb of onboard memory is disabled.
-Dave McGuire
On February 2, healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote:
> Aren't the 4MB MicroVAX I boards the same as a 4MB MicroVAX II board? I've
> never even seen a MicroVAX I, so I really don't have a clue on this.
Nope, not even close.
-Dave McGuire
I have an interesting question. Can this board be used as additional ram
in a PDP-11? If so, how might it be done?
I have a Qbus Memory board that must be from a uVAX II - M7609-AP
with 288 (I hope I counted correctly) memory chips
4256L-15 8726255
A 21-22422-42 R
with the standard male 50 pin header at the top to be connected to a uVAX
CPU.
If my arithmetic is normal, does this make it an 8 MByte memory?
Now, I am no hardware expect, in fact about all I can do with a soldering
iron is to plug it in and unplug it - before it gets too hot and I burn something.
But, is there any way that a regular PDP-11/73 could see this memory
and use it in some manner?
Otherwise...
I don't expect that anyone will want it, but if so, can I swap it for a regular
PDP-11 Qbus memory of 4 MBytes?
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
How many people on this board are in the military? I already know that Jeff
Helliage is a (no offense!) "Box Kicker" Second Class, but are there any
others?
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Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/
Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
"Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82
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>I have an interesting question. Can this board be used as additional
ram
>in a PDP-11? If so, how might it be done?
>
>I have a Qbus Memory board that must be from a uVAX II - M7609-AP
>with 288 (I hope I counted correctly) memory chips
>4256L-15 8726255 A 21-22422-42 R with the
>a standard male 50 pin header at the top to be connected to a uVAX
>CPU.
>If my arithmetic is normal, does this make it an 8 MByte memory?
It's a microvax memory most likely. PDP-11 can address a maximum of
4mb.
>But, is there any way that a regular PDP-11/73 could see this memory
>and use it in some manner?
No, it's not compatable.
>I don't expect that anyone will want it, but if so, can I swap it for a
regular
>PDP-11 Qbus memory of 4 MBytes?
That should be possible but I think the largest common memory board
for PDP-11 Q-bus is 1MB.
Allison
On February 2, Jerome Fine wrote:
> I have an interesting question. Can this board be used as additional ram
> in a PDP-11? If so, how might it be done?
>
> I have a Qbus Memory board that must be from a uVAX II - M7609-AP
> with 288 (I hope I counted correctly) memory chips
> 4256L-15 8726255
> A 21-22422-42 R
> with the standard male 50 pin header at the top to be connected to a uVAX
> CPU.
>
> If my arithmetic is normal, does this make it an 8 MByte memory?
It's an 8mb board, yes. And no, it won't work on a pdp11...the PMI
(Private Memory Interconnect) connector at the top of the board is how
it talks to the MicroVAX-II CPU, while [most] qbus pdp11 systems talk
to their memory via Qbus.
> I don't expect that anyone will want it, but if so, can I swap it for a regular
> PDP-11 Qbus memory of 4 MBytes?
I doubt you'll have much luck with this idea...MicroVAX-II memory
boards are all over the place, while 4mb Qbus pdp11 memory bards are
getting hard to find.
Sorry if I busted your bubble...
-Dave McGuire
In a message dated 2/2/01 8:40:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
THETechnoid(a)home.com writes:
<< Please FTP to 24.15.74.214 and try again with our thanks and my personal
assurance that this problem is not likely to recur.
>>
i presume there's a classic computer involved somewhere to make this on
topic? heh
> Hi folks, (2nd go - this time I won't press whatever I pressed last time
> :)
>
> The following is a message from Julian Richardson
> (JRichardson(a)softwright.co.uk) - he'd post it himself but for some reason
> the list is bouncing his messages......any replies to him please.
>
> <cough>
> <clears throat>
>
> -------------------------------------
subject: Any classic telecoms fanatics on the list?
Not quite computing, but it hits the ten-year mark. Just think of it as a
big tape drive ;)
I've got an old reel-to-reel answering machine made by Ansafone which I'm
trying to locate more information on (web searches turn up nothing useful
and there don't seem to be any "classic" telecoms groups which I can find -
if someone knows of one, let me know)
I did come across a uk.telecom newsgroup which turned up one person who'd
heard of the machine - he was quite helpful with connector info. Apparently
the phone socket on the back of the machine (a big 6-pin round socket) is
known as a "96a" type jack. It's the pin-outs for this which I'm really
after...
(plan is to try to hook this thing up to the phone network if I can; the
phone system hasn't changed much - outwardly anyway - in years so hopefully
it's still possible, providing our exchange still supports pulse as well as
tone dialling)
cheers,
Jules
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> C CAT Limited
> Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work)
> <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home)
> <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum)
"Ready" - a MTX500, yesterday.
On February 1, Sellam Ismail wrote:
> Holy crap. Why is an aerospace company still using such an old-assed
> computer? Anyway, I may be able to help them.
...after all, everybody knows "old" means "incapable of performing
useful work"!
*poke poke*
-Dave McGuire
> > Everything else that's available is an UPDATE, and CAN NOT
> > be used for a fresh install. You can't, for example, install
> > System 7.5.3 on a Macintosh UNLESS it already has 7.5 or 7.5.1.
>
> Not true, you can use it for 7.1 systems, *or* download the Network Access
> disk to bring up a system with *no* System Folder on the HD, and then
> start the installation.
Since 7.1 was also a commercial release, that's not a surprise, but
in that scenario, we're back to having to start with a purchased
product and then upgrade it.
But I confess I know nothing about this Network Access disk,
and find it strange that Apple would let that one slip out
the door...
Or is this Network Access disk a third-party thing?
=dq
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
>
> > I think you're missing my point.
> >
> > System 7.5 was a retail-boxed version of MacOS, as was
> > System 7.1, and NEITHER of them are available for free
> > download.
>
> Two years ago, you would've been correct. Apple has released 7.5, for free
> download, to their ftp site. This is the same FTP site that has all their
> updates.
Well, well, well... the first thing that his Steveness has done that
I can agree with. That's what I get for losing interest two years ago...
-dq
>Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:29:08 -0600
>From: Owen Robertson <univac(a)earthlink.net>
>Subject:
>
>I just got my NeXT Cube (Yeah!!!). It's running NeXTStep 3.3, and I am
>trying to connect it to my AppleTalk network, via LocalTalk or Ethernet.
>Could anyone help me?
>
>Thanks,
>Owen
http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html
I've run the older version and the v.10 Beta with no problems, but YMMV.
For me it works on my office's net and with just a crossover RJ-45 ethernet
cable to my Mac Laptop. I'm also running NS 3.3 on an 040 Cube.
- Mark
Any listmembers interested in the following items which are about
to be heaved as part of the annual cleanup at my workplace:
(free; pickup only in the Houston area unless otherwise noted)
- DEC BA23 enclosure, unpopulated, with RX50; badged MicroPDP11
- T.I. silent 700 mini data terminal w/plug-in cart (works)
- VT100 logic boards (6) were spares for our VT100 fleet being
scrapped - pickup or you-pay-shipping
- I'm still trying to free up a SGI 1400 system (kbd mouse manuals
and 19" industrial monitor). This is about the size of a BA123.
If anyone is interested in this, let me know, I will try harder.
Last years cleanup saw 8 cartons of PDP1145 core mem get heaved (I was
on vacation and thought I had them safely stshed out-of-sight) Thats
over 200 boards! Still pains me when I think about it.
Any other interesting items that surface will be added to list.
Email me your wants; shipping for single logic board, $4.20. Thanks.
nick oliviero
More stuff found while digging through the piles:
HP88780 SCSI 9-track front-loading tape drive, with rack slides,
DIFFERENTIAL SCSI interface. Tandem-badged, working when pulled out of
service. NVRAM got cleared during checkout, so the front panel controls are
now HP default instead of the Tandem labeling -- I can include a page from
the 88780 manual describing the correct layout.
One person can lift it if they're strong (it's slightly heavier than a
Cipher F880 front-loader), but it would be -expensive- to ship. Prefer
local pickup in Kent, WA, southeast of Seattle. $50.00 takes it.
Three SysKonnect dual-port FDDI cards for EISA bus systems. Two are NOS/in
their box, one is loose. $10.00 each, $25 for all three. Shippable.
Condition: Probably work just fine, but I don't have any FDDI hardware to
test them with.
More to come as the swap meet draws close. Whatever I don't move here will
be taken out to said swap. Remember the date and place: March 10th,
Puyallup (Western Washington) Fairgrounds, Puyallup, WA (southeast of
Tacoma). Enter through the Gold gate, and get there early! This is WA's
biggest electronics/ham swap meet, and we usually see quite a line,
people-wise.
Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
> > >I'm a tech at United Space Alliance in Cape Canaveral Florida. I have a
> > >Computer Automation LSI 2 computer that doesn't boot up and I'm not
sure
> > >why. We use this computer to run automated tests on the space shuttle
Ku
> > >band comm systems and need to get it fixed fairly quickly. Can you
help? if
> > >so, drop me a line and we'll see if we can work something out.
>
> Holy crap. Why is an aerospace company still using such an old-assed
> computer? Anyway, I may be able to help them.
Because most fiscal conservatives don't see the point of a space program.
Regards,
-dq
Here's a note that I spotted on the Sun Rescue mailing list:
--- Begin Forwarded Message ---
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:47:07 -0600
From: Steve Hatle <shatle(a)vue.com>
Subject: [SunRescue] PDP 11/34 in Twin Cities
Sender: rescue-admin(a)sunhelp.org
To: rescue(a)sunhelp.org
Reply-To: rescue(a)sunhelp.org
Message-ID: <000001c08cba$0d1883d0$3201a8c0@thor>
All who are interested in DEC,
The local Lockheed/Unisys surplus store has a PDP 11/34 available. It's part
of a "Dicomed" system that was apparently used to create microfiche
film/prints- there's a bunch of stuff like cameras, etc that are with it.
I don't know much about this vintage of DEC, but there's an 11/34, 3 DEC
disk packs (19" by approx 12") a DecWriter, a 9 track tape drive and all the
film crap, housed in approx 3-4 5 foot racks.
Apparently it was all in working order when it was pulled- they outsourced
the film biz. The guy at the warehouse knows nothing about it beyond that.
When I asked him what he wanted for it, he just said it would go "cheap". I
would guess a couple hundred bucks would get you the whole shootin' match.
The more you take, I'm sure the cheaper it would get. <grin>
If anyone wants more info, let me know, and I can pass on contact info.
Steve
shatle(a)vue.com
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http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
--- End Forwarded Message ---
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Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk
University of the West of England
Hi folks,
The following is a message from Julian Richardson () - he'd post it himself
but for some reason the list is bouncing his messages......
<cough>
<clears throat>
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C CAT Limited
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<http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home)
<http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum)
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I thought most of you could relate to this! :-)
Joe
>Subject: Put Down Engineers" Week
>
>Q: When does a person decide to become an engineer?
>A: When he realizes he doesn't have the charisma to be an undertaker.
>
>Q: What do engineers use for birth control?
>A: Their personalities.
>
>Q: How can you tell an extroverted engineer?
>A: When he talks to you, he looks at your shoes instead of his own.
>
>Q: Why did the engineers cross the road?
>A: Because they looked in the file, and that's what they did last year.
>
>Q: How do you drive an engineer completely insane?
>A: Tie him to a chair, stand in front of him, and fold up a road map the
>wrong way.
>
>And you might be an engineer if:
>
>Choosing between buying flowers for your wife and upgrading your RAM is a
>problem. (This is a no-brainer - RAM all the way.)
>
>You still own a slide rule and know how to use it.
>
>You take a cruise so you can go on a personal tour of the engine room.
>
>In college, you thought Spring Break was metal fatigue failure. (We had
>Spring Break in college ? I didn't know that - I must have missed it.)
>
>The salespeople at the local computer store can't answer any of your
>questions. (Yeah - some knowledgeable salespeople they are.)
>
>At an air show, you know how fast the skydivers are falling.
>For your wife's birthday you gave her a new CD-ROM drive or a Palm Pilot.
>(Look at it this way - she's very lucky I even remembered her birthday with
>all the important things going on in my mind.)
>
>You can quote scenes from any Monte Python movie.
>
>You can type 70 words per minute but you can't read your own handwriting.
>(It's a code, fool !!)
>
>You comment to your wife that her straight hair is nice and parallel. (You
>forgot the humorous followup question: "What'd you do - stick your finger
>in the wall outlet ?" Hahahahaha !!!!!)
>
>You sit backwards on Disney rides so you can see how they do the special
>effects.
>
>You have saved every power cord from all your broken appliances.
>
>You have more friends on the Internet than in real life. (What's a
>"friend"?)
>
>You know what http:// stands for. (Damn right, and what's more, I'm not
>going to tell you.)
>
>You look forward to Christmas so you can put together the kids toys. (Damn
>right again - that's why I had kids - so I'd have toys to assemble on
>Christmas Eve - why else and so what ?)
>
>You see a good design, and have to change it. (Hey, I can always make a
>good thing better.)
>
>You spent more on your calculator than you did on your wedding ring.
>
>You think that people yawning around you are sleep deprived. (I'm really
>not sure why they are yawning, but I know it's not due to my vibrant
>personality.)
>
>You window shop at Radio Shack. (I hate the drool left on the windows by
>the previous engineer window shoppers.)
>
>Your laptop computer cost more than your car.
>
>Your wife hasn't the foggiest idea of what you do at work. (My wife hasn't
>the foggiest idea about a lot of things.)
>
>You've already calculated how much you make per second.
>
>You've tried to repair a $5 radio. (It seemed like a good idea when I
>started.)
>
Apologies in advance.
I rolled back from Juno 5 (bug-ridden memory hog) to Juno 4 and although
I used the backup option in 5, 4 doesn't have any way to read the backup
file.
I was in the middle of a sale (core memory frame) to one individual,
haven't gotten fundage from him yet, and don't know how to let him know.
I was discussing VAXstation 4000 VLC options with somebody else, also
lost.
Thanks for your forebearance.
William W. Webb
Owner of:
-----------------------------
VAXstation 4000 VLC
VAXstation 3100 Model 38
VAXstation 3100 Model 76
DEC Multia UDB (VMS 7.2 Hobbyist-licenses)
DEC PC XL590 (Win NT4/Linux 6.0)
and numerous quality firearms, but that's another mailing list. ;-)
________________________________________________________________
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Uh, DPS-6's and 8's were made by Honeywell, not GE, and it doesn't really
look like either of them, from the one I own and the pictures I've seen...
It really looks more like some kind of huge printer or something... and
there's what looks like an LSI ADM terminal of some sort too, and the
Honeywell terminals don't look like those...
Will J
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hi,
I just got an unopened copy of IBM's APL for the PC, from 1988 (apparently).
There's a 5.25" floppy disk in it, and one file is unreadable:
VM232___.AIO.
Does anyone have a copy I can borrow?
thanks!
--
Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.htmlwww.sieler.com
This needs immediate action everyone, Compaq is in the process of removing
ALL of the old "Digital Equipment Corp" information from the Web. We've
already lost the DEC Technical Journal articles that were on-line, and the
Digital Timeline pages. This is a major blow to archivists and
preservationists. EVERYONE needs to contect Compaq/DEC and ask that they
restore those pages to the web. Please!
--Chuck
Anyone out there have a Raytheon 704 computer, circa 1977. I just found a
copy of the Users Manual at Goodwill. No computer unfortunately.
If anyone is interested in it contact me offline, otherwise it will show up
on eBay.
Paxton
Portland, Oregon
I think a better question would be "How hard is it to find the goddamned
monitor and keyboard for the bastard?" As the owner of a Terak, I can say
its cute, but pretty useless sans monitor and keyboard... grrr..
Will J
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> >Actually that's later Macs. The earliest that do have 72 pin simms I
> >can think of is LC III w/ 8MB which I have learning against TV stand
> >to be used w/ BSD if I can not find 68882 rated for 25mhz FPU to use
> >68k-linux because I don't wish to buy apple's 7.1 for it.
>
> But why exactly OS 7.1? After all, you may download 7.5 for free from
Apple,
> as well as earlier versions. All save for 7.1.
There are *updates* to 7.5 (like 7.5.1, etc) that are freely
available from Apple's sites, but I've never seen 7.5 itself
freely available for download.
Care to share a link?
-dq
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Nadeau wrote:
>
> > One of my first jobs working for Wayne was editing those editorials--a
task
> > the rest of the staff was happy to hand off. You should have seen some
of
> > the stuff that never saw print.
>
> Such as...?
The ads for ??? that featured "Lil' Ample Annie" were something
I looked forward to every month...
-dq
Were you there at the end? The last issue I got had a
different masthead, and IIRC, the internal format had
changed.
regards,
-dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Nadeau [mailto:menadeau@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:33 AM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
>
>
> Kilobaud and Microcomputing were two separate magazines from different
> publishers, but they never merged. "Kilobaud Microcomputing"
> was always the
> title of the publication. I worked for the publisher, Wayne
> Green, who was
> one of the people who started BYTE. When his ex-wife took
> over BYTE, Wayne
> started Kilobaud.
>
> --Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:19 AM
> Subject: Re: FW: TRS-80 Magazines
>
>
> > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know if the article you are looking for is in
> Kilobaud, but I
> > > worshiped that mag back then and it predates Byte by a
> few years. In
> fact,
> > > I think it Became Byte.
> >
> > Not true on either count. Byte started at issue #1 in
> September, 1975.
> > Kilobaud Microcomputing started at the end of 1976 or
> beginning of 1979.
> > I don't have the issues in front of me to check but I
> believe this is
> > where you got it mixed up with Byte. Kilobaud and
> Microcomputing were
> > seperate mags that merged at some point.
> >
> > Sellam Ismail
> Vintage Computer
> Festival
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> ----
> > International Man of Intrigue and Danger
> http://www.vintage.org
> >
> >
>
Please ignore. Thanks...
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:01:26 -0000
> From: "Gareth Knight" <gareth.knight(a)btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: Spectrums, Ultrix, feeling old :)
>
> You can tell the difference by the colour of the machine. The
> +2A was grey, while the +2B was black.
Nope, the +2 (vanilla) was grey and both the +2A and +2B are black. There
were 3 models, all increasing in bug-ness. I was going to say check the
Sinclair page in the Museum but I've just noticed the +2B isn't
there.....hmm....
--
Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP
C CAT Limited
Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work)
<http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home)
<http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum)
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One of scrappers has got in a Nova 3 that he is interested in selling. it
appears to be a 12 slot card cage with the following cards.
Nova 3 CPU D4864
Nova 3 Triple option 8534
2 16K SCMEM 1638 & 0659
DGC nova Cassette I/O 4F-0334
DGC Nova Compatable wiring board 005-000-449-04
Disk Cartridge Control 4134
another DGC Nova Cassette I/o 5075
There is also a DG removable pack disk drive 4234
I have not seen it yet but I think it is missing the plastic front covers.
If anyone is interested please contact me off list and I will try to find
more about it.
I suspect it is heavy but I have considerable experience in shipping this
type of hardware. It has been about 9 years since I have seen a Nova 3.
Paxton
Portland, OR
Yeah, I'd be interested in it, especially for the cassette controller board,
I have a friend who is trying to repair his cassette control board.
Will J
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I also found two Micropolis 1203-I disk drives in the loft.
They are 8-inch hard disks, +24V, -12V and +5V power
requirements and connected to an ICL "formatter" dated
1989. The formatter has various chips from the 8X300
bit-slice system all over it.
They're in Bristol, UK, if anyone wants them.
--
John Honniball
Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk
University of the West of England
I finally dug out the VAX PSU that's been in my loft for a
while. It's a 5Volt, 100Amp power supply dated 21st Feb
1980. Model H7100B, with 240V 6A 50/60Hz input. No idea
what model VAX it's for, but it was most likely a big 'un.
The PSU is in Bristol, UK. It's very heavy, and 240V, so
it's probably only useful to someone in this country.
Anybody want it?
--
John Honniball
Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk
University of the West of England
On January 31, Ross Archer wrote:
> Am I the only one who thinks mechanical design cost-cutting has
> finally gone too far? I almost forgot that stuff was once
> this well put-together.
I'm with you there. Fairly recently I was moving stuff around in
the basement; I stood on a PC chassis to reach over some stuff. It
was a recent chassis, maybe a year old.
It collapsed under my weight. The "sheet metal" was like foil. Now,
I'm not a small guy, but I'm not hugely fat either.
-Dave McGuire
I always thought the TMS9900 was a neat chip (having a PDP-10
background may have influenced me :-) Having the register set
show up in memory gave me a nice warm nostalgic feeling. I
wouldn't blame the poor performance of the 99/4A on the CPU. The
architecture had a lot of nifty things in it. Most of the blame
for the poor performance of the 99/4A falls on the low-end
save-every-penny-you-can design criteria for the machine. I
ordered the technical manual on the 99/4A from TI... What
I saw in the manual made me gag... aside from a very small amount
of memory actually on the system bus, any add-on RAM was
accessed _serially_ (i.e. 1 bit at a time) via what TI called
a "CRU" interface (basically a high speed serial port) I
believe we can all appreciate the crippling effect on any
machine's performance when the bulk of it's memory is only
available through a 1-bit serial interface.
BTW, I also had the technico board... a really neat product that
never quite took off. :-(
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajp166 [mailto:ajp166@bellatlantic.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:30 AM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: TI-99/4A
>
>
> From: Ross Archer <archer(a)topnow.com>
> >
> >Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard the 99/4A suffered
> something of
> >an unfair rap for being slow due to the fact that its TI BASIC was
> >dreadfully inefficient and sloppy, and that little or no
> blame for its
> >slowness rested on the actual CPU or hardware. (Windoze
> >users may spot a parallel here.) >;)
>
> Partially correct. there were many issues. One the 9900 is
> 16bit wide
> data bus demuxed to 8bit (costs a lot of cycles!, penalty 1),
> it's run at
> less than maximum speed for the time and BASIC {internal} was
> interpreted as an end language {penalty 2} and the BASIC interpreter
> was interpreted {penalty 3}.
>
> Those things really hurt speed. The other side was it did have one of
> the better from a capability standpoint Basics in the
> standard console.
>
> >The TMS 9900 CPU actually used a "window" in RAM as its
> register space,
> >with an internal pointer register to locate its base
> address. This was
> >actually a great idea at the time, because CPU cycles were
> long enough
> >back then it made no difference whether you stored temporary
> values in
> >internal registers or external RAM, as either could get you
> your data in
> >the 1 cycle time available.
>
>
> Actually many of the older DEC hardware also used part fo ram to
> implement the registers including early PDP11, DEC-10s and previous
> machines. The idea was not new and was to save logic in the CPU
> as FlipFlops (memory) were costly in hardware back then and even in
> late 70s were costly on silicon. The other factor is the 9900 was
> a single chip recreation of the TI990 mini (not unlike like the
> 6100{pdp-8}, LSI-11 and DG MicroNova).
>
> >(And interrupt latency can be really short if you can make a "fresh"
> >register bank with one register load!)
>
> The ability to context switch fast was one of the strong points.
> Compared
> to Z80 or 8086 it was a nicer cpu to program save for the 32KW memory
> limitation. In many respects it was more similar to the minis like
> PDP-11
> or Nova than the micros of the time. It was rich in general
> registers,
> Addressing modes and IO.
>
> I have a Technico Super starter board and it runs the TI9900 at 4mhz
> with 16bit wide memeory and rom really fast compared to the Z80
> (comparison made on both machines I still have from 1979!).
> I picked up
> the TI99/4a and was sadly disappointed save for the bundle of
> really good and inexpensive software for it. Still, it plays
> a mean game
> of
> Parsec!!!
>
> Allison
>
Manual transfer of data was the only way to go in the "old days".
There was bike-net also. I used to take my 800 bpi tapes over to the
computer room and knock on the back door, they would sneak them in. The
official way was they logged in tapes twice a day, slow turn around. There
was a slight risk of bike accident especially if I was not looking, perhaps
distracted by scenery :)
The risk with Beetle-Net was that if you left the top down some wacko would
walk off with your tape. One of my fellow students came back to his car to
find the tape unspooled down the hill, somebody stood on one end and rolled
the reel down the hill. We tried manually re-rolling the tape and decided
there was to much dirt and grime on it.
Later in the 80's I held the local record for awhile, I carried 10 LMSI 12"
2GB optical disks from one end of the hospital to the other, they had
planned on doing a network transfer via ftp. The sneaker was faster.
20GB/10 minutes = 2 GB/minute in 1985.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
> What kind of stuff do you run on it if not any of the TI stuff?
>
> Jeff
The stuff I have for the technico mostly. Save for I have a complete
99/4a
so I can run edtasm.
Allison
From: Ross Archer <archer(a)topnow.com>
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard the 99/4A suffered something of
>an unfair rap for being slow due to the fact that its TI BASIC was
>dreadfully inefficient and sloppy, and that little or no blame for its
>slowness rested on the actual CPU or hardware. (Windoze
>users may spot a parallel here.) >;)
Partially correct. there were many issues. One the 9900 is 16bit wide
data bus demuxed to 8bit (costs a lot of cycles!, penalty 1), it's run at
less than maximum speed for the time and BASIC {internal} was
interpreted as an end language {penalty 2} and the BASIC interpreter
was interpreted {penalty 3}.
Those things really hurt speed. The other side was it did have one of
the better from a capability standpoint Basics in the standard console.
>The TMS 9900 CPU actually used a "window" in RAM as its register space,
>with an internal pointer register to locate its base address. This was
>actually a great idea at the time, because CPU cycles were long enough
>back then it made no difference whether you stored temporary values in
>internal registers or external RAM, as either could get you your data in
>the 1 cycle time available.
Actually many of the older DEC hardware also used part fo ram to
implement the registers including early PDP11, DEC-10s and previous
machines. The idea was not new and was to save logic in the CPU
as FlipFlops (memory) were costly in hardware back then and even in
late 70s were costly on silicon. The other factor is the 9900 was
a single chip recreation of the TI990 mini (not unlike like the
6100{pdp-8}, LSI-11 and DG MicroNova).
>(And interrupt latency can be really short if you can make a "fresh"
>register bank with one register load!)
The ability to context switch fast was one of the strong points.
Compared
to Z80 or 8086 it was a nicer cpu to program save for the 32KW memory
limitation. In many respects it was more similar to the minis like
PDP-11
or Nova than the micros of the time. It was rich in general registers,
Addressing modes and IO.
I have a Technico Super starter board and it runs the TI9900 at 4mhz
with 16bit wide memeory and rom really fast compared to the Z80
(comparison made on both machines I still have from 1979!). I picked up
the TI99/4a and was sadly disappointed save for the bundle of
really good and inexpensive software for it. Still, it plays a mean game
of
Parsec!!!
Allison
From: Corda Albert J DLVA <CordaAJ(a)nswc.navy.mil>
>I saw in the manual made me gag... aside from a very small amount
>of memory actually on the system bus, any add-on RAM was
>accessed _serially_ (i.e. 1 bit at a time) via what TI called
>a "CRU" interface (basically a high speed serial port) I
>believe we can all appreciate the crippling effect on any
>machine's performance when the bulk of it's memory is only
>available through a 1-bit serial interface.
???? I still have 4 of them. HAving hacked one rather severely the CRU
interface was IO only. Ram was either accessed as:
128 words on the 16bit bus (pair of 6810s) this was fast ram
relative to all other.
32KW in the Expansion box, this was slower due to the word to byte
wide conversion logic (adds at least 2 waits for every access!)
Grom, byte parallel, sequential access, you wrote to a register
in the GROM to set the starting address and every byte read
would increment an internal counter. This was slow at times
being both on the byte wide bus and the higher software
maintenance. Mostly used for internal Basic and the plug in
carts.
Vram.... 16k or 4116 Dram on the video refresh bus. This was also
used as general storage for the internal BASIC and was a byte wide
access via the 9918 VTAC and also CRU IO (setting a pointer).
Horribly slow, cool graphics for the time!
I have a severely hacked one with 32KW of 61256(32kx8) and 32KW
of Eprom both 16bits wide and clocked to 4mhz... it screams. Nothing
standard and doesnt run any of the TI stuff. Nice package though.
The CRU interface for IO was actually pretty fast in practice and had
flexibility that was not available on most of the 8bitters.
>BTW, I also had the technico board... a really neat product that
>never quite took off. :-(
IT's interesting that it was one of the first 16bit cpus and was not
well supported by TI at that time. Good programmers CPU.
Allison
Hey folks, who's got one of the above subject machines? I found one over
at the Salvation Army store.
Looks very clean and complete: has the Operator's manual in a slipcase,
MSDOS manual (DOS v.2.1), keyboard, printer, vinyl slipcover, cables, some
floppies of s/w. They want $50 for it which is probably a little high.
Maybe I can negotiate it down to something better.
Found several hits on a NorthernLight search. One good photo to help show
what I'm talking about is at:
http://home.plex.nl/~hwrsoft/11.htm
Some list members' collections show as hits too, but no descriptive info
was to be found in those links.
Anybody have any comments about this machine? How was the screen clarity?
Regards, Chris
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>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:46:43 -0500
>From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
>Subject: NeXT question
>
> Ok...I'm having a bit of trouble networking my NeXT with
>other machines, specifically my Mac-clone....
>Unfortunately, I can't get the NeXT and Mac to talk
>to each other over the 10base-T ethernet link, using a twisted patch
>cable so I don't have to have a hub installed. ...
>I'm also using a CD
>called 'NeXTstep Objectware, Summer 1995', which is full of 3rd party
>product demos, internet tools and drivers, which is where Omniweb
>came from. Does anyone have any ideas?
Jeff,
I've got a very similar setup. NeXT '040 cube, NS3.3 w/Y2k patches,
crossover ethernet cable to a Mac Powerbook 3400 running MacOS 8.1. The
NeXT will respond the Mac *if* the Mac is already connected and running
when the NeXT boots. Of course the Mac has to be set up for TCP/IP to the
ethernet port, etc. I usually hit the NeXT with Fetch 3.0.3 from the Mac
first, but I have also succeeded by firing up CAPer on the NeXT first then
looking in Chooser..Appleshare on the Mac.
The NeXT setup is the same as it was in my office, on an ethernet
internet hookup, so it's possible there are some settings in there not the
same as yours. For example, during the NeXT boot process, I get some
message about "not being able to find a server ... hit c to continue or see
my administrator" (or similar) and have to hit c to continue. If that's the
problem, email me direct and I'll post the NeXT Networking setup.
http://www.peak.org/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/ for a more
recent version? But one step at a time, I guess.
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:33:53 -0500
>From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
>
>....
>The only NeXT I've seen listed as
>supporting more than 32meg is the '040 Cube. Otherwise, as far as I
>know, 8meg 72pin SIMMs will only work in the Turbo's.
True as far as I know. My 040 non-turbo Cube has 16 30-pin slots, all
currently stuffed with 4M simms for a total of 64M.
>Date: 29 Jan 01 03:21:04 +0100
>From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se>
>Subject: Re: Needed: 4 - 4meg 72pin non-parity SIMMs
>
>...OTOH, I'll gladly trade for 4 MB 30-pin SIMMs, parity or not.
http://www.sur-tech.com/cgi/page?menu,missim
I don't know if this is the best price, but I've dealt with
Christian before and it was a delight. "Will this drive work in my NeXT?"
"Probably, but hang on a second - I'll just pull another NeXT off the
shelf, open it up, plug in the drive, format it, write to and read from it
... yep, seems to work. You want it?" *That's* what I call service!
>Date: 29 Jan 01 03:26:47 +0100
>From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se>
>Subject: Re: Altaircomputers.org down??
>
>Okay, so now I'm thinking about a threesome between ChibiChibi,
>Jar-Jar and Pikachu. You bastard.
> A. Jones
How can one put a price on jewels like this?
- Mark
At 08:41 AM 1/30/01 -0500, Doug wrote:
>
>> Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Obviously you've never dealt with the IRS!!!!! They
>may
>> not "enter" your residence but they'll sure as hell padlock it shut until
>> they get what THEY want! As far as they're concerned you have about the
>> same rights that the Jews did in Nazi Germany!
>
>Actually, I have.
>
>In 1986, when I filed for Chapter 13, they sent me a letter saying
>I hadn't filed for 1985 and 1986 and owed an estimated $11,000 in
>back taxes.
>
>I wrote back saying, it was true, I hadn't filed for 1985, *yet*, but
>would do so now as I expected a refund. Additionally, I sent them
>photocopies of the 1986 filing & refund check they didn't seem to
>know about.
>
>And human engeineering has yet to create the lock
>that can keep me out of my house.
It's not the locks as much as it's the US Marshall's Service that backs
it up!
Joe
>
>
Hi,
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 Jason McBrien wrote:
> I've seen these things around, a local advertising firm had stacks of them
> they were throwing away. These are basically Macintosh IIfx's clock chipped
> from 40MHz to 50MHz, in a gigantic metal tower case with power and frame key
> locks. An interesting machine, but remember before buying...
>
> 1 - The IIfx uses wacko 64-Bit (I think) SIMMs that aren't compatable with
> anything except a particular LaserWriter. These are VERY hard to find and
> expensive.
Some time ago, a seller on eBay mentioned in the item listing for some IIfx
SIMMs that they also work with Amiga accelerator cards made by GVP (Great
Valley Products).
Has anyone tried using IIfx SIMMs with a GVP card? (One which takes 64-pin
SIMMs, obviously.)
While the connector may be the same, I'm sceptical that they are compatible; a
few years ago I tried an AST 64-pin SIMM in my GVP card unsuccessfully.
-- Mark
One of the 'toys' I recently purchased is an eval board with the Xilinx
Spartan II 200K gate FPGA on it. My plans for this are classic computer
emulation. (there is already a PDP-8 VHDL description floating around and
I'm looking at doing one for the PDP-5, PDP-11, and PDP-12). But this board
includes bits that let you drive a VGA display with it if you choose and it
has PS/2 ports etc that you can also use. So I figured wouldn't it be cool
to actually try doing "new" Atari 2600 hardware or something like that? It
should be pretty easy to design a PONG equivalent game, the original was
all TTL gates anyway. All I need it another hobby I don't have time for but
it helps motivate me to learn the tools if I've got a project to work on.
--Chuck
> From: Alex Holden <alex(a)linuxhacker.org>
> Subject: Re: Machines I'm looking for...
>
> (Speccy +2A)
> Oh, the first machine I bought was one of those (before that I used my
> brother's VIC 20). It had the ROMs from a +3 (which had a
> disk drive) but
> the hardware of a +2 (which had a tape drive).
That was the +2B wasn't it? I know my +2B does things my +2A doesn't, like
have a RAM drive and the like.
> I still have a +3 in a drawer somewhere, but absolutely no
> disks for it...
Would you like a Vic-20 to play with again then? :)
--------------
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:02:57 +0000 (GMT)
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> Subject: Re: Machines I'm looking for...
>
> I can see the point in having one of each type of machine,
> having spares,
> having examples of all the major revisions, etc. But there has to be
> _some_ difference between them in general.
*grin*. My ZX81 stack wins on this point because they're all in different
packaging, except the 2 kits! Can't say the same for Spectrums though, but
when someone's got a mint boxed one for a fiver I can never say no! Plus
they're good for trades.
> But in my case the first disk-based micro I ever used was an
> RML380Z at
> school. So when I saw such a machine at a radio rally, I bought it,
> partly for nostalgic reasons.
Heh. Me too, which makes you the same age as me. I hope you don't *feel* as
old as me though :o)
---------------------
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:23:17 -0500 (EST)
> From: Lincoln Fessenden <linc.fessenden(a)juno.com>
> Subject: DecStation Help please!
>
> boot 3/rz6/vmunix
> both without luck.. After each command the response is
> identical. The
> cdrom spins up for a minute and then stops. No further
> prompts, action,
> etc..
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
You need to put it in quotes - "3/rz6/vmunix" as it's uppercasing it for
you.
-----------
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:37:49 -0500
> From: Tony Eros <tony.eros(a)machm.org>
> Subject: RE: Collecting and taxes
>
> Interesting question though -- "should the tax people visit
> my site they
> might think I'm making a living from buying and selling
> machines" -- what
> if the "site" in question is a web site? Can the revenooers
> use what they
> see on a web site against the owner? :-)
It was the website I meant actually - they'll see a list of the collection
and also some machines for sale or trade and think 'aha'.....
------------
--
Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP
C CAT Limited
Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work)
<http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home)
<http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum)
0/0
>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:38:03 -0500
>From: "Jason McBrien" <jbmcb(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: eBay Dash30fx
>
...
>1 - The IIfx uses wacko 64-Bit (I think) SIMMs that aren't compatable with
>anything except a particular LaserWriter. These are VERY hard to find and
>expensive.
http://www.sur-tech.com/cgi/page?menu,macsim Same comments as my
last post, where I forgot to get the subject line right, about the
proprietor - he's great.
- Mark
Please reply to the original sender.
Reply-to: Jjentrps(a)aol.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:55:14 EST
From: Jjentrps(a)aol.com
Subject: (no subject)
i have a ibm personal computer 5150 with monitor and keyboard and disks in
mint condition, how would i donate this computer without any shipping costs?
---
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
Hello all,
I just obtained three S-100 boards that I thought were floppy controllers,
but on inspection, may be something altogether different. I have no
documentation on these boards, so here's the description:
All three are marked "DYSAN (c) 1982"
Two are marked "Wear Tester Cert. Bd."
One is marked "Model V TrackWriter Certifier Sub."
All three have 34-pin and 50-pin connectors, and all three look to be the
same PCB layout, but with different components present or absent, and
slightly different silkscreenings. For example, the two "Wear Tester"
boards have ByteDAC chips in two sockets, but the "Model V" has those
sockets empty. Most of the other chips on the boards are either standard
"74" logic, or Op-Amps, or the aforementioned ByteDAC chips. All three also
have a National LH0032CG in a can (don't know if that's significant or not).
If anyone can identify these boards, or more importantly provide
documentation (including schematics), I would surely appreciate it! I am
willing to trade $$$ for information...
Thanks!
Rich B.
P.S. I'm a digest subscriber, so I will not reply immediately if you send to
the list....
> Interesting question though -- "should the tax people visit my site they
> might think I'm making a living from buying and selling machines" -- what
> if the "site" in question is a web site? Can the revenooers use what they
> see on a web site against the owner? :-)
Web sites currently don't enjoy the protection they should.
If you painted a picture of Superman on your bedroom wall,
because you like Superman and want people who come to your
bedroom to know you like Superman, that's fair use doctrine.
If you put a picture of Superman on your web site, and DC
Comics sees it, you'll get a cease-and-desist letter from
DC lawyers. And if you don't comply, you're in court. That's
because the law isn't making distinctions between corporate
and personal/private web sites, but it should. My personal
home page is a virtual bedroom wall.
Enough of that, we're swinging way off topic again.
-dq
> > Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Obviously you've never dealt with the IRS!!!!! They
may
> > not "enter" your residence but they'll sure as hell padlock it shut
until
> > they get what THEY want! As far as they're concerned you have about
the
> > same rights that the Jews did in Nazi Germany!
>
> This is no malarkey. An IRS data-entry error credited our tax payment to
> someone else's account, and the IRS immediately froze our bank accounts.
If
> not for the kind intervention of our Congresswoman, Corrine Brown, we
> probably would have had to close up shop.
>
> Warrant? Who needs one?
This is very quickly getting out of hand.
My comments were intended to deal with the issue of entry into my
home, and nothing more.
Regards to all,
-dq
> Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Obviously you've never dealt with the IRS!!!!! They
may
> not "enter" your residence but they'll sure as hell padlock it shut until
> they get what THEY want! As far as they're concerned you have about the
> same rights that the Jews did in Nazi Germany!
Actually, I have.
In 1986, when I filed for Chapter 13, they sent me a letter saying
I hadn't filed for 1985 and 1986 and owed an estimated $11,000 in
back taxes.
I wrote back saying, it was true, I hadn't filed for 1985, *yet*, but
would do so now as I expected a refund. Additionally, I sent them
photocopies of the 1986 filing & refund check they didn't seem to
know about.
And human engeineering has yet to create the lock
that can keep me out of my house.
Regards,
-dq
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu>
>If the TI uses a DSUB-9 connector (I must be the only one here who
doesn't
>have one), I wonder if the Tomy Tutor joysticks would work. I know TT
>joysticks are definitely not Atari compatible -- I nearly killed my C64
with
>one (remember that the joystick lines go right into the PLA, the glass
jaw
>of the C64).
Atari joysticks may work with the TI save for connector. The ti joystick
is only an array of contacts in PARALLEL with the keyboard contacts
and there is no logic inside.
A common problem is the TI version of the joysticks have a poor contact
life so bad ones are good for the plugs and wires.
Allison
From: Claude.W <claudew(a)videotron.ca>
>
>A fast 16 bit CPU but a weird way of accessing memory made the thing
really
>slow IIRC
It had the potential of being a significant first 16 bitter. The muxing
of the bus
down to 8bits and really cost in speed.
>I think it was a costly & painfull venture for TI...
Ti was infamous for that.
>I am still looking for the expansion box / floppies for these...these
are
>rarer because so expensive back then...
Yes, but there was an aftermarket that was significant historically.
>I have accumulated too many and some will go in garbage at next
>inventory/cleaning...Ill keep the "inbox" ones...
NOTE: the video chip is extinct and same for a few other bits like the
GROMS so even if you strip them for the boards there are people
that might want them just for that.
Allison
>
>My 2 cents...
>
>Claude
>Canuk Computer Collector
>http://computer_collector.tripod.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <liste(a)artware.qc.ca>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:09 PM
>Subject: TI-99/4A
>
>
>> I was given a TI-99/4A this week end. Has clean and has power and
teevee
>> cables. Only has the Number Madness cartridge, however. Haven't
>> turned it on yet, but i've played with the keyboard. It has a nice
>> tactile feel, especially compared to the dross that passes as a
keyboard
>> nowadays
>>
>> Is this thing compatible w/ "period" joysticks (like the atari's
used)?
>> Any other interesting info on this model?
>>
>> -Philip
>
I was given a TI-99/4A this week end. Has clean and has power and teevee
cables. Only has the Number Madness cartridge, however. Haven't
turned it on yet, but i've played with the keyboard. It has a nice
tactile feel, especially compared to the dross that passes as a keyboard
nowadays
Is this thing compatible w/ "period" joysticks (like the atari's used)?
Any other interesting info on this model?
-Philip
Considering all of the chat about SIMMs, this may be of interest.
- don
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This is a stack of stuff I have collecting dust. Prices are negotiable on
everything,
no REASONABLE offers will be ignored and I will guarantee anything you get
works. If
you want everything, its yours for the right price.
Memory
-----------------------
Stack of 30 pin simms
Stack of 4MB 72 pin simms
Stack of 486 Cache chips
Pair of 8MB (16MB) HP Apollo Memory
Pair of 32MB (64MB) IBM 60ns EDO SDRAM
stick of 64MB IBM ECC PC100
Hard Drives
-----------------------
Maxtot 3.6GB IDE HDD
Conner 200MB IDE HDD
Western Digital 4.2GB IDE HDD
Sound Cards
-----------------------
Diamond SonicImpact A3D PCI sound card
Aztech 16 bit ISA Sound Card
Systems
-----------------------
Unisys DX2-66 w/ 1MB Video, Sound, Floppy, NIC, HDD
Unisys DX2-66 w/ 1MB Video, Sound, Floppy, NIC, Scsi HDD, Scsi CDROM
Printers
-----------------------
HP DeskJet 400 Color Inkjet
HP DeskJet 500 Color Inkjet
Canon BJC-2000 Color Inkjet
HP color and B&W Catridges
Mouse
-----------------------
Genius NetMouse Serial
MicroInnovations 4D (2 wheels) Scroll Mouse PS/2
Memorex PS/2
PB PS/2
Misc
-----------------------
Dead (?) Ricoh Scsi CDRW
Dead (?) PII-400MHz CPUs
PB ISA FM Radio Card
NCR 53C400 ISA Scsi Card
Symbios SYM20403 ISA Scsi Card
Smart N Friendly CDROM Caddy
Umax Astra 1220P flatbed scanner
Zenith Serial Terminal w/ Keyboard
Pentium 75MHz CPU
Socket 370 <--> Slot 1 Adapter
ATX Backplates
Floppy adapters
Active EXT. Terminator
Cent<-->DB25 scsi cable
Centronics F <--> HD50 adapter
4 connector internal scsi cable
DB25M <--> DB25F cable
DB25M <--> DB25M cable
DB25M <--> DB9F Modem cable
15' CrossoverCable
50' Cat5 Cabling
3 ps/2 mouse adapters
10baseT T connectors
10baseT terminators
DB25F <--> DB9M adapter
serial port and parallel port internal ribbon cable
PS/2 mouse internal cable (5 pin)
Sun Sparc Lunchbox stand
PJC
-- end of forwarded message --
> >All kidding aside, the 4th amendment to our Constitution elucidates
> >our intrinsic right to be safe and secure in our persons and property
> >from unwarranted intrusion. In other words, a U.S. citizen is never
> >required to admit a government agent unless the agent has a warrant,
> >and while it may happen from time to time, I don't think that revenue
> >agents typically ask for and receive warrants to enter a private
residence.
>
> Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Obviously you've never dealt with the IRS!!!!! They may
> not "enter" your residence but they'll sure as hell padlock it shut until
> they get what THEY want! As far as they're concerned you have about the
> same rights that the Jews did in Nazi Germany!
This is no malarkey. An IRS data-entry error credited our tax payment to
someone else's account, and the IRS immediately froze our bank accounts. If
not for the kind intervention of our Congresswoman, Corrine Brown, we
probably would have had to close up shop.
Warrant? Who needs one?
Glen
0/0
At 10:45 AM 1/29/01 -0500, you Doug Q:
>> On a different tack, what's the group's thoughts about taxes etc? Should
>the
>> tax people visit my site they might think I'm making a living from buying
>> and selling machines and may want a little extra cash out of me despite
>the
>> fact I can probably prove it's impossible to make real money out of this
>AND
>> have a full time job and it really is a hobby....
>
>There is a long-established tradition here in America wherein we
>take great difference with a revenuer's (taxman's) attempt to
>enter the premises. The tradition involves guns and dead taxmen.
>
>All kidding aside, the 4th amendment to our Constitution elucidates
>our intrinsic right to be safe and secure in our persons and property
>from unwarranted intrusion. In other words, a U.S. citizen is never
>required to admit a government agent unless the agent has a warrant,
>and while it may happen from time to time, I don't think that revenue
>agents typically ask for and receive warrants to enter a private residence.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Obviously you've never dealt with the IRS!!!!! They may
not "enter" your residence but they'll sure as hell padlock it shut until
they get what THEY want! As far as they're concerned you have about the
same rights that the Jews did in Nazi Germany!
Joe
I have a small selection of WANG VS manuals that my
employer has decided to pitch. If you're looking for
one, drop me a note and I'll see if it's in the collection.
If there's interest, I'll take the time sometime to get a
list of titles together.
- Stacy
--
Stacy & Becky Morang, scmNOSPAM(a)ctel.net
In a message dated 1/29/01 9:23:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
liste(a)artware.qc.ca writes:
<< I was given a TI-99/4A this week end. Has clean and has power and teevee
cables. Only has the Number Madness cartridge, however. Haven't
turned it on yet, but i've played with the keyboard. It has a nice
tactile feel, especially compared to the dross that passes as a keyboard
nowadays
Is this thing compatible w/ "period" joysticks (like the atari's used)?
Any other interesting info on this model? >>
i think everyone has a ti computer. they were so popular when they could be
had for <$100. even though an atari joystick plugs in, it will not work
right. There is an adaptor that lets atari joysticks plug in, but not sure
what it did, probably just changed a few pinouts.
I seem to remember from the dark ages that the Atari cartridges could be
made using a standard EPROM and ZIF socket and that there was an inverter on
one leg of the EPROM. The guys that I knew who programmed EPROM's for
missiles also made Atari cartridge copies. Somewhere I have a cigar box
full of EPROM's of all of the common Atari 2600 games. I also have a piece
of circuit board with a ZIF socket on it.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
I'm looking for the original list prices for the following equipment.
Does anybody happen to know any of them?
Platinum Apple IIe
Extened 80/comun text card
Apple 5.25" drive (I think that's all it was called. A Unidisk price
would be good enough)
Apple 5.25" interface card
Platinum Monitor IIe
AppleColor Composite Monitor IIe
Super Serial Card
Apple Mouse IIe w/interface
ImageWriter II
Thanks!
Tom
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
Sure, you could kludge something together, but I have no interest in doing
so... Since I truly do intend to have a museum at some point, I wouldn't
consider a kludged-together Terak to be something of museum quality.. Hell,
if I just wanted it to work, I'd try to find out how standard the qbus
backplane in it is, and from there you could perhaps make it into a normal
11/23, which would be useful since it has an 8" floppy. Thanks for the
advice on the monitor and keyboard though, maybe it will help someone with
different goals : )
Will J
_________________________________________________________________
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Interesting question though -- "should the tax people visit my site they
might think I'm making a living from buying and selling machines" -- what
if the "site" in question is a web site? Can the revenooers use what they
see on a web site against the owner? :-)
-- Tony
At 10:45 AM 1/29/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > On a different tack, what's the group's thoughts about taxes etc? Should
>the
> > tax people visit my site they might think I'm making a living from buying
> > and selling machines and may want a little extra cash out of me despite
>the
> > fact I can probably prove it's impossible to make real money out of this
>AND
> > have a full time job and it really is a hobby....
>
>There is a long-established tradition here in America wherein we
>take great difference with a revenuer's (taxman's) attempt to
>enter the premises. The tradition involves guns and dead taxmen.
>
>All kidding aside, the 4th amendment to our Constitution elucidates
>our intrinsic right to be safe and secure in our persons and property
>from unwarranted intrusion. In other words, a U.S. citizen is never
>required to admit a government agent unless the agent has a warrant,
>and while it may happen from time to time, I don't think that revenue
>agents typically ask for and receive warrants to enter a private residence.
>
>There are, however, some horror stories I could tell involving the
>U.S. Marshalls' Service who are able to perform warrantless searches,
>but they're looking for pirated software, not old iron.
>
>Regards,
>-dq
> On a different tack, what's the group's thoughts about taxes etc? Should
the
> tax people visit my site they might think I'm making a living from buying
> and selling machines and may want a little extra cash out of me despite
the
> fact I can probably prove it's impossible to make real money out of this
AND
> have a full time job and it really is a hobby....
There is a long-established tradition here in America wherein we
take great difference with a revenuer's (taxman's) attempt to
enter the premises. The tradition involves guns and dead taxmen.
All kidding aside, the 4th amendment to our Constitution elucidates
our intrinsic right to be safe and secure in our persons and property
>from unwarranted intrusion. In other words, a U.S. citizen is never
required to admit a government agent unless the agent has a warrant,
and while it may happen from time to time, I don't think that revenue
agents typically ask for and receive warrants to enter a private residence.
There are, however, some horror stories I could tell involving the
U.S. Marshalls' Service who are able to perform warrantless searches,
but they're looking for pirated software, not old iron.
Regards,
-dq
I have a couple DEC Maxines (5000/33's) and I am desperately trying to
install a virgin Ultrix 4.2 on them without any luck. Someone please help!
I have the CD media for Ultrix 4.2 using a scsi drive that works to install
on old Sparcstations so I am assuming it handles 512 sectoring.
The cdrom drive works fine. The Ultrix 4.2 cd looks fine (an original).
If you watch the boot messages on the machine it finds the cdrom drive on
rz6, so....
I rebooted and at the prom, I try
boot 3/rz6
and then
boot 3/rz6/vmunix
both without luck.. After each command the response is identical. The
cdrom spins up for a minute and then stops. No further prompts, action,
etc..
Anyone have any suggestions?
-Linc
I know that this is a shameless plug, but here are a few machines I'm
looking for:
Dynalogic Hyperion
Epson QX-10
Otrona Attache
Acorn A4 (w/ American voltage power supply)
Commodore Hyperion (Good luck, I know!)
____________________________________________________________
David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian.
Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/
Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
"Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82
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> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:07:39 +0000 (GMT)
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> Subject: Re: Machines I'm looking for...
>
> Perhaps somebody could expain the aims of this hobby of ours.
> Is it to :
>
> Obtain as many machines as possible without caring what they are
Nope.
> Obtain as many of particular types of 'interesting' (to you) machines
Yup.
> Getting (again) the machine that you 'used as a kid' and
> enjoying those ancinet games again (say)
Not really, since I was doing that anyway with emulators.
> Getting machines that you dreamed of owning many years ago and could
> never aford back then
Definitely.
> Getting machines that have particular hardware (or software) features
> that you find interesting, whether or not you've ever heard of the
> machine before
Not originally, but that's happened over time once I've discovered that I
*could*. I'm supposed to be sticking to home machines but I'm deviating from
that path I think.
> Preserving a piece of computer history
100%
For me, at the end of the day cost isn't as important as saving a machine
>from whatever fate will befall it. Of course, I want that boxed Jupiter Ace
or Lisa 1 as cheaply as possible, but if I have the funds and something like
that becomes available then I'll buy it anyway. While its fab to have a
collection like this I still want to turn it into a proper museum and
educational facility once I get my head round the 'this might get stolen or
damaged and its the only one I've got' thoughts.
And find somewhere secure to put it all of course. There's bastards round
here who'll steal anything that isn't bolted down regardless of whether
there's anyone in the house because crims have more rights than victims, but
that's another story.
On a different tack, what's the group's thoughts about taxes etc? Should the
tax people visit my site they might think I'm making a living from buying
and selling machines and may want a little extra cash out of me despite the
fact I can probably prove it's impossible to make real money out of this AND
have a full time job and it really is a hobby....
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Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP
C CAT Limited
Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work)
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<http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum)
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If any of you are using HP plotters, I came into a large stash of the
long pens used on the Draftmaster 759x, Draftpro 757x, HP 758x and HP
7550 plotters. I've got sizes ranging from .25mm to .50mm and Black,
Blue and Green inks (Just a few Red...) Most are for paper or vellum
and are new in sealed (but well outdated) packages.
$.75 ea + actual postage.
Jim
Hello, all:
I know that I posted this once before, but I'll make the offer again. I
have a partially-working Datamaster for sale or trade. It consists of the
Datamaster unit, lots of spare parts (including power supply, keyboard, and
miscellaneous boards) and a few disks. There are no manuals or other
paperwork.
There's only one condition: pick-up only in northeastern Nassau County, New
York (Long Island). This is large and very heavy, so I'm not inclined to
ship it.
I also have a few random items available that are shippable: Two 3Com PCI
network cards (spares), a Zilog Z8 ICE/evaluation board, and NuBus graphics
card and TokenRing cards.
Anyone interested, contact me off list. Thanks.
Rich
ClubWin! Group 1
Collector of Classic Computers
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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>Anybody have any comments about this machine? How was the screen >clarity?
Well, as far as the screen goes, it's not anything to write home about, but
I'm sure that there are worse looking screens out there.
Then again, that could be just mine.
Hope this helps.
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Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/
Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
"Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82
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> > >
> > > On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with spending money
> > on a machine
> > > if you will then enjoy programming/using/repairing it. I
> > don't regard
> > > that as not 'sporting'.
> >
> > It's like the difference between the quaterback of the team
> > saying he won the superblow because he was on the field and
> > the owner saying he won the game because he paid the players
> > to do it.
>
>
> Perhaps somebody could expain the aims of this hobby of ours. Is it to :
>
> Obtain as many machines as possible without caring what they are
Probably not.
> Obtain as many of particular types of 'interesting' (to you) machines
Almost certainly.
> Getting (again) the machine that you 'used as a kid' and enjoying those
> ancinet games again (say)
Still got the machine I learned to program on (a Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A).
Still works, too :-)
> Getting machines that you dreamed of owning many years ago and could
> never aford back then
Don't think that applies to me.
> Getting machines that have particular hardware (or software) features
> that you find interesting, whether or not you've ever heard of the
> machine before
Hmm... Depends on whether I've got enough place to store the thing.
> Preserving a piece of computer history
Yes.
> Programming a machine that is really simple enough to fully understand
Definetly.
> Repairing a machine that's built from parts you can get and understand
When it breaks :-)
> Learning about the operation of a computer by understanding a processor
> at gate level
Yup.
> I guess for me it's many of the above and more besides.
Same here.
> OK, I know most of us (myself included) can't afford to spend as much
> money as we'd like on this hobby, and we'd love it if the machines were
> free... However, it wouldn't bother me to spend say \pounds 100.00 on a
> machine of particular interest to me, knowing that I would get at least
> that much enjoyment/education from programming it, repairing it, learning
> about it, etc. And I don't thing that's against the aims of the hobby.
I wouldn't mind spending about ?50 on a machine if it was in decent (read:
working) condition. I've successfully restored a reel to reel tape deck and
I'm going to get myself a few MOS KIM-1s (one to keep going, the rest become
parts donors if need be) and keep at least one running. I'm going to test
and reform/replace the capacitors if necessary, and make sure the CPU/clock
circuits/LED display/keyboard still work. And if the keyboard fails I'll get
myself a Protolab membrane keypad kit and build a new one!
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Phil.
http://www.philpem.f9.co.uk/
philpem(a)bigfoot.com
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