- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

I apologize, but I didn't save the email that told who was taking over while Jay took a sabatical... The questions: Is the email address obfuscation in the archive up and running, and if not, when will it be? I am preparing to switch to an new email address, and don't want to provide it to the spammers directly... I'll wait until the obfuscation is in place before switching. Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? Can it be made to? I'd like to be able to announce something (like the username/password for my private FTP site), but I don't want it to live forever in the archive. It's unlikely a spider would find the announcement and I'd get a hacker trying to break in, but why risc it... Best Regards, Clint

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Apple 3 Memory Upgrade

by aw288＠osfn.org

Remember those weird RAMs I asked about a week or so back? They are from an Apple 3 memory upgrade, and being that I don't have an Apple 3, I don't need them. So... The first person with a suitable trade*, bribe, barter, or pile of cash, gets them. 32 weird chips, in a bag labelled "Tested" (for whatever that is worth). Email me off list. *Trade? I like mainframe things - books, parts, software, etc. I also need R, B, and S series DEC Flip Chips. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Jeffrey Sharp > > On Tuesday, July 9, 2002, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > > > > > No. > > > > As Frank wrote, the normal form is "X-No-Archive: yes". > > Yes. That works. > > -- > - If that does prevent a message from being archived, I still think it's a good idea to send sensitive info directly to people, and _not_ through the lists. What if (as it does happen) someone accidentally replies to that message, unedited, to the list? It'll get archived anyway. Or does the "X-No-Archive" line stay in the reply? -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 8, 19:30, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > No. As Frank wrote, the normal form is "X-No-Archive: yes". > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to > cctalk? I could live with it, but I'd really prefer not to. It's not necessary for filtering, given that several headers already have th list name in them: >From cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Tue Jul 9 06:50:13 2002 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org X-BeenThere: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Sender: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org Errors-To: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org X-Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: Classic Computer Discussion - Unmoderated <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/> These are headers from your post, originally to CCTECH, but you can see that by the time it was crossposted to CCTALK, most had become CCTALK headers. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Memorex 9-track Drive Available - Act now!

by bill＠timeguy.com

I just found out my company is planning to scrap a Memorex tape drive, controller, and power supply, models 8222, 8224, and 8228 tomorrow (Wednesday, July 10th). It's huge and heavy and located in Lincoln, Nebraska. If you want it, speak now and I'll try to hold it for you - otherwise it's going to the scrapper tomorrow.

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

- My opinions and thoughts are inline... > From: Jeffrey Sharp > > This email contains answers to recent member questions, some new questions > for members, and news of recent changes. > > .. Many > people include email addresses in their sig blocks or introduce quoted > text > with "On mm/dd/yyyy, name <user@domain> wrote:" or similar lines. The > obfuscator doesn't obfuscate these things, so the whole feature seems > rather > worthless to me. The spam-conscious should definitely use a different > safety > method. > - Keep the obfuscator running anyway... > .... > > NEW QUESTIONS: > > Considering how vulnerable it is (see above), would anybody mind if I > turned > off the obfuscator? > - Yes. Heh, looks like I answered this before you even asked. ;) > Currently, "[CCTECH]" is prepended to all subject headers sent to cctech. > Would anyone mind if I lowercased that to "[cctech]"? The capital letters > seem to be screaming a little too much. > - Go ahead. Sounds fine to me. > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent > to > cctalk? > - Hmmm, I recall a bit of noise when it was used originally. Isn't that why it was killed before? Personally, I don't mind it, though. > What are our opinions on the two-lists solution? > - So far, so good. > Cctech isn't currently moderated. In fact, it never has been AFAIK. It > seems > to have stayed on-topic without moderation. Are we ready for moderation to > be turned on, or should we consider alternatives? > - Keep it as-is. The threat of moderation seems to be working okay. If it does get out of hand, then turn on the moderation. > RECENT CHANGES > > ... > > The date shown for archived posts has been changed from the 'sent' date > (what the author says the date is) to the 'resent' date (what the > classiccmp > server thinks the date is). This will protect our archive from the people > whose computers think it is 1970. > - Ahhh. Consistency is a good thing. :) Overall, many thanks to those who put in much time keeping these lists running smoothly. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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VS 4000vlc; Was Re: Goodwill Rulez!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> BTW, I can't get any response at the boot monitor. HELP, SHO DEV, ?, >all the stuff I'm used to gets ILL CMD. BOOT works - VMS 5.5 > Are the console commands different from the 4000/60? Since BOOT works and HELP does not, my guess is that the security password has been activated and you either need to type LOGIN followed by the correct 16 hex-digit code (which I assume you don't know) or you need to pop the lid and do the magic to circumvent the password (which I cannot remember but will look up tonight if you need it). Antonio

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Goodwill Rulez!

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. I was at the Goodwill Computer works today - big, big haul. Picked up: A Commodore cassette deck, in the box, for the Commodore 128D, with keyboard, that I grabbed Saturday to go with the Amiga 1080 display Bill gave me A 1541 floppy drive for same An Atari SF354 floppy, in the box, looks new. Tidbits and cables. I think one is the QuickTake-to-PC cable I needed. Will check pinouts later. Oh, Yeah! A TRS-80 trackpad. I think I gotta go back tomorrow for the Model 4 to go with it. Best of all. I was walking by the front counter, asked the guy "Are you holding that pile for someone?" He says "No, somebody just donated it. It's some kind of terminal. If you want it, you can take it all for $5." So I took the VT320, the LK402 (?!) keyboard and the VAXstation 4000vlc they were sitting on. WooHoo! Doc

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[CCTECH] Entering single-user mode on Pro/Venix?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

Still playing with my Professional 3xx boxes. Managed to clean one memory board of 8264 chips; will populate with 50256s when I locate my bag of 16 pin sockets. On the software side, I managed to get my RD51 with Pro/Venix 1.0 up and running on a 640KB Pro350. It was a gift some years ago; the donor even brought it by my house - no pickup! He didn't recall the root password, so I stuck it in the back of the basement and only recently dug it out. So... even though I have the manuals, it's not obvious how to get a Pro to enter single-user mode. Any suggestions? Barring that, I suppose I could wipe and re-install, but I'd like to poke around to see what's on the disk first. Thanks, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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OT: eBay to buy PayPal - yet another ruination of a good thing :(

by foo＠siconic.com

I just saw on the news that eBay is buying PayPal for US$1.5 billion. Good for the folks at PayPal, but this does not bode well for PayPal customers if eBay's history of trying to wring profits out of it's customers in creative ways is any indication. It also does nothing for competition. This sucks. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Wanted: TU10 brackets

by owad＠applefritter.com

I'm looking for the brackets/mechanisms to mount my TU10 in the rack. Having never seen them, I don't have much of an idea what they're like, but it looks like two hinges. I'll buy or trade. Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

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List Management Q/A

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Does the list archiver honor the 'X-NoArchive: Yes' line? > > No. Um, I think the canonical spelling is "X-No-Archive:". You might want to try another test with that. > Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to > cctalk? Appended or prepended? Either way, yes, I mind. I'll deal with it, but I'd rather not have to. And in contrast to Chris, I'm not at all sympathetic to people who say they need this to sort their received mail; the list provides other headers that are usable for selecting cctalk mail. For example, "Sender: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org". -Frank McConnell

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NOT paypal puns (VT-1200)

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I managed to pick up a couple of VT-1200's/VX10A-AA's (no kb/mouse/etc) today at Purdue Salvage. If anyone wants one, give me an offer. I'd like to keep at least one to use. Also, does anyone know what sync rate they use? I'd like to be able to use them with something besides my IBM POWERdisplay 20 if that's possible (and besides the 'real' monitor that goes with them. -- Pat

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Bernoulli drives was:Re: What is this?

by edick＠idcomm.com

One weakness that Iomega products in general, but the Bernoulli drives specifically, had, was that the media would develop defects which it was difficult to map out. The large drives of the early-mid '80's with FD media in their cartridges came with software that could, to limited extent, fix these defects or map them out. The later rigid media drives, which I don't believe IOMEGA manufactured, came with no such utility, and the still-current, though probably obsolete, JAZ drives come with a utility set that doesn't really do much. I've used nearly every version of these devices, from the 8" to the 3-1/2", and I have to say that I've never encountered a product line that was as disappointing. Every one of them had a set of features that looked good in the marketing literature but never met the mark. I've got a basement full of 'em. Dick -----Original Message----- From: no <oliv555(a)arrl.net> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Bernoulli drives was:Re: What is this? >Curt Vendel wrote: >> Sounds like the good old original Bournelli Box data cartridges.... first >> removal hard drives for PC's.... I remember working on those beasties.... >> the original design had an issue with the power board assembly and the >> capacitors used to explode. They were packaged into IBM XT type cases and >> when the caps blew it sounded like someone hit the case with the metal >> baseball bat... when the case was opened, underneath the cover would be the >> marks where the cap blew out.... of course this "feature" was fixed in later >> versions ;-) >> >> >> >> Curt >> > for those interested in this sort of thing... > ... there are 3 dual bournoulli 90 drives sitting at the >290/Goodwill here in NW houston. At least 4 of the drives had cartridges >in them > >-nick > > >

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Fw: equipment available (possibly!)

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Came across this a few minutes ago... Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gunshannon" <bill(a)triangle.cs.uofs.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: OT: equipment available (possibly!) > I realize this is kind of off topic, but I also figure the people > here are the ones most likely to be able to make use of this, so.... > > As part of a package deal I have come into possesion of some rather > large pieces of Compaq gear. I don't see us ever being able to use > it, much less actualy need it and I don't see the boss wanting to > store it as space is premium around here, That means I may be getting > rid of it at real bargain prices (especially being as I have no idea > what its value might be!) > > I am sure everyone is on the edge of their seats right now, so here > goes. > > I have two huge boxes labeled "StorageWorks". > One measures 31x35x67 and the other 23.5x35x44. > I have what I assume are chassis w/power supply that go into these. > There are no disks or sleds with these. :-( > > I also have a BA350 containing 2 HSJ40's. > > I also have two of the older style DEC racks labeled SC008-AC > each containing a pair of boxes labeled SC008-AB. > > And cables and terminators for said boxes galore!! > > If my boss says, "get rid of it." is there likely to be anyone > interested or should I be contacting a scrap yard?? > > This stuff was all in use until about a month ago. > > Do people like Island ever buy old stuff?? > > Sorry for bothering everybody, but maybe someone elses needs > will intersect with my good fortune. > > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

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[CCTECH] List Management Q/A

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Would anyone mind if "[cctalk]" was appended to all subject headers sent to >cctalk? As long as it doesn't cause replies to get into a battle over the prepending being before or after the Re: which rapidly turns into a subject line of "[cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk] Re: [cctalk]". Personally, I hate ALL list prepending for just this reason. I haven't seen one that works well with replies (probably because email clients battle how a reply is handled. I constantly see long threads turn into "RE: Re: RE: Re:"). Of course, I can live without the prepending just fine because my email client sorts the emails for me, so I don't need it to see in the subject where something is from. I do sympathize with those that are using clients that don't presort. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Versatec Board

by edick＠idcomm.com

The only context in which I've run into Versatec of that time frame is as a maker of electrostatic plotters. These were essentially big laser printers, albeit shaped a little differently than the desktop variety, much larger, and VERY costly. They're just a memory now, though. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Versatec Board >> This board is approximately 14" or 15" square and has two edge >> connectors on the bottom approximately 6' - 7" long; I don't recall what > >That does sound like a board from a DG Nova... > >> the Nova boards look like. While it has some test points on it, it does >> not have any connectors to the outside world. > >Hmmm... THat's strange. But didn't some Nova cards route the I/O >connections through the main backplane???? > >-tony >

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Test Message, Ignore

by lists＠subatomix.com

Testing 'X-NoArchive'.

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[CCTECH] Test Message, Ignore

by lists＠subatomix.com

Testing list configuration changes. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #76 - 40 msgs

by mtapley＠swri.edu

>From: "Bruce Ray" <bkr(a)WildHareComputers.com> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: eBay to buy PayPal - yet another ruination of a good thing :( >Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:41:07 -0600 > >...or sounds like an opportunity for an emerging new competitive business - >SellamPal. ;-) No, no. "PayToSellam!" - Mark

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Shameless Plug Alert

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Well, Lord knows I tried to subscribe. Several times. The classiccmp.org >mailer doesn't seem to want to recognize 'majordomo' as a valid user. >Anyway... Since this was the 2nd person to complain that majordomo isn't a valid address, I thought something might be amiss. Sure 'nuff, the subscribe info on www.classiccmp.org was never updated to reflect the new mailing list server info. It still tells you to send a message to majordomo(a)classiccmp.org. I know Jay in on 'vacation' right now, so there is probably nothing that can be done. Anyone else have the power to update the web site? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Shameless Plug Alert

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, gang, Well, Lord knows I tried to subscribe. Several times. The classiccmp.org mailer doesn't seem to want to recognize 'majordomo' as a valid user. Anyway... Shameless plug: I have an Intel MCS-85 development board with manual and schematics up for auction on E-pay. Here's the link if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036649143 The most recent bid is around $25.00. Thanks for putting up with me and my occasional ads. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Success story (VT1200)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Success story. Got the VT1200, took the mouse apart, fixed it, hooked up the VRE01 flatpanel, got it tweaked and working.. Got a MMJ and a DB9 adapter from Doc Shipley, they work fine (serial console). Went to Goodwill, got a 12port (gak!) 10baseT hub (old D-Link) with a 10base2 uplink on the back. Got cables. Got home. No 10b2 Ts and terminators. Called friends. Friend had a box of them, left four Ts and two terminators on my porch this morning. Hooked everything up... mrbill@chip:~> ping -s vt1200 PING vt1200: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=0. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=1. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=2. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=3. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=4. time=7. ms 64 bytes from 192.168.123.250: icmp_seq=5. time=7. ms ^C ----vt1200 PING Statistics---- 6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 7/7/7 mrbill@chip:~> xdpyinfo name of display: 192.168.123.250:0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: DECWINDOWS DigitalEquipmentCorp. vendor release number: 11 maximum request size: 16384 bytes motion buffer size: 0 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 1 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 86, maximum 251 focus: window 0x10000e, revert to None number of extensions: 1 ServerManagementExtension default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1024x864 pixels (260x219 millimeters) resolution: 100x100 dots per inch depths (1): 1 root window id: 0x8006b depth of root window: 1 plane number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x80066 default number of colormap cells: 2 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 1 options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor: 16x16 current input event mask: 0x0 number of visuals: 1 default visual id: 0x80065 visual: visual id: 0x80065 class: StaticGray depth: 1 plane available colormap entries: 2 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 1 bits Unfortunately: mrbill@chip:~> xterm Warning: Cannot convert string "5x7" to type FontStruct xterm: unable to locate a suitable font ugh. I did NOT want to have to mess with remote fonts, considering I have ZERO documentation for this thing... I just wish it had SSH built-in. Cool and useful, regardless.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Fw: It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

----- Original Message ----- From: Keys To: cctech@classiccmp Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ? Check out this Lisa 2 that went for $1500. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

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[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check out this Lisa 2 that went for $1500' http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

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WTB: MMJ cables and adapters

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I'm in need of a couple MMJ (to MMJ) cables and some MMJ-to-DB9 and MMJ-to-DB25 adapters. I'd like to avoid paying Blackbox $8/ea for the cables if possible Length is unimportant, heck, 3" or 6" will work, I just need to turn MMJ into DB9 or DB25. (I'm borrowing one from Doc for the VT1200 right now, and need to return his soon) The VT1200 and VRE01 is *beautiful*, but I also need a pair of 10b2 T-connectors and some terminators before I can get it on the network (picked up a D-Link hub with 10b2 on back today at Goodwill for $11). Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Note that the buyer is from Italy. After reading the feedback He is a collector. Paxton Astoria, OR Sorry for the blank email. My fingers were too quick.

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[CCTECH] It's getting Bad A Lisa 2 is now worth a lot ?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/7/02 9:15:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, celt(a)chisp.net writes: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034952824

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Sept. 85 BYTE article needed

by rcini＠optonline.net

> Hello, all: > > I'm looking for an article in the September 1985 issue of BYTE on > the EGO Homebrewed CPU (Part 1) by Clifford Kelley. I have part 2, but > not part 1. > > Please contact me off-list if someone has it and can scan it for me. > Thanks. > > Rich > > Rich Cini > Collector of classic computers > Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project > Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > /************************************************************/ > >

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Free: Sony NEWS workstation (Austin, TX)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a Sony NEWS workstation (keyboard, system unit, and external SCSI tape drive) free for pickup in Austin, TX. Its a NWS-841. I no longer have the monitor for the unit (has a 3W3 connector on the back; monitor was a GDM-1962B-style), but I do have the keyboard (in original box, no mouse) and external tape drive (uses a Centronics-style SCSI-I cable). Has a floppy drive (with yellow plastic drive protector) and even still has the red "caps" covering some of the I/O ports in back. It looks very unused, but its been years since I tried to power it up; I dont even remember anymore where I got it from. Best specs I've been able to find on it: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=NWS-841&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=24800002%… " There was a short blurb about the new Sony workstations in INFOWORLD (Feb 1, 1988 page 3, "AT DEADLINE"). ...Internally called the "Sun Killer," the NWS-841 will sport two 16-MHz 68020 microprocessors, a 68881 math coprocessor, 8M of RAM, a 286- MB floppy drive, six I/O ports, including an EtherNET interface, one rep. said. The machine will sell for about $19,900. Supported software will include BSD4.2, NFS, and X. " Anyway, if anybody is interested, let me know. I'd like to get this out of the way, but dont want to scrap it. It just must go to a good home. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Swap meet failure

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Tried a Swap meet in Ottawa today. Most people misunderstand the meaning of swap. There were more machines on my driveway after the event that when it started. Traded 2 small case fans for cash, and a partial HP 9000/715 for a Cromemco system 3, 2 apple II clones, a TI 99, 3 HP external disk drives, a few commodore 64's and a bunch of documentation . Left behind was a MAC PLUS, LC II, LC III, ACER ?? all with monitors, a few external scsi boxes, and socket 7 mobo's. On my door step last night was a TRS 80 model III and a Commodre 128, And the night before I picked up a SGI personal iris and a compaq contura aero. And my favorite scrapper has a commodore SX-64 in the back. All in all a good week, but the next swap will have to be on someone elses drive way I no longer have space to have another.

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Some Vacation Finds

by univac2＠earthlink.net

Well, I went to a glorified scrap yard today, and picked up some neat stuff, and left some neater stuff behind. Other than a VT100, I got only books. The neatest one being DEC's "Introduction To Minicomputer Networks". Being on vacation and having limited hauling capacity I had to leave behind: MicroVAX 3500 DECserver 500 Some kind of IBM RS/6000 thingy Quite a bit of Sun stuff, some SparcStation 1/2s, keyboards, monitors, etc... Some newer DEC stuff and some misc old equipment like printing terminals, a Magnetic Tape Selectric, and a ton of Apple stuff. IBM Office System 6 - I remember reading a little about this. It's like a small desk with two 8" floppy drives and a selectric keyboard, basically. I would really like to get this if possible. Anyone know anything about it? I hope to make it back over here in my truck someday. -- Owen Robertson

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Free: Amiga 1080 monitor (Austin)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got an Amiga 1080 RGB-or-Composite-input monitor, free for pickup in Austin, TX. Works great; I've been using it as the preview monitor (and to watch TV on) off a VCR for a few months now.. but its just too big and too bulky and puts out too much heat for what I use it for - so I'm gonna try to find a normal TV set to use for that stuff (or even one of the little 3" black and white models). Any leads on that appreciated 8-) Anyway, Amiga 1080. Works fine. Pick it up and its yours. (BTW, sticker on back says mfg. 01/96). Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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RS/6000 580

by pat＠purdueriots.com

YAY! I've got it partially IPLing off of the drives that came out of my 55L. It seems to halt with a message of '552' - IPL Varyon falied. Does anyone know enough IBM-speak to tell me what that means? Aparently, the problem it was having earlier with powering off automagically was caused by the power supply thinking a fan was broken - once I fixed that problem, it magically started doing stuff again. I'm about to try booting in service mode with a set of diagnostic disks and see if I can figure anything else out. One more thing -- I'm still getting just a black picture out of the video card, like I was with the 5%L. Does anyone know if that's what it should be doing, or if something there is amiss, too? I've got a 'real' rs/6000 keyboard and mouse hooked up to the system this time, and haven't tried booting with a serial terminal yet. Thanks for any help. -- Pat

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SGI's first MIPS workstation

by red＠bears.org

I recall this was the subject of some debate earlier. I dug up a primary source last night, and offer the following article from the Summer 1987 edition of IRIS Universe: "announcing the IRIS 4D/60 turbo option" In March, Silivon Graphics demonstrated its commitment to being the undisputed leader in the superworkstation market by introducing the IRIS 4D/60, the industry's first RISC-based superworkstation. This new product introduction generated more interest and excitement than any other single event in Silicon Graphics' history. Certainly a major reason for the industry's excitement is the IRIS 4D/60's premier graphics performance. Equally important, however, is the new RISC and floating point technology incorporated in the IRIS 4D/60. Users' response to this level of computing performance from the RIS 4D/60 continues to be very enthusiastic. Now, four months after the introduction of the IRIS 4D/60, Silicon Graphics once again leads the industry by introducint the IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option, a high-performance computing upgrade for the IRIS 4D/60 Superworkstation. By integrating the latest in RISC and floating point technoloyg, the IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option breaks both the 10 MIPS and 1 MFLOPS performance barriers! While the IRIS 4D/60 is already the best all-around performer in its price range, the integer and floating point performance of the new Turbo Option make this upgrade truly phenomenal. The IRIS 4D/60 Turbo Option incorporates a 12.5 MHz RISC CPU, 50 percent faster than the 8 MHz CPU introduced with the IRIS 4D/60. This CPU is tightly coupled with a new single-chip floating point coprocessor. By using custom VLSI technology, the the [sic]Turbo Option increases the floating point performance of the IRIS 4D/60 by a factor of three. The Turbo Option's new CPU board also includes cache memory, up to 16 Mbytes of on board CPU memory, and an interface to SCSI peripherals. By having all of the major components of the CPU architecture on a single board, the rate of data transfer between components is significantly improved, thereby maximizing system performance. The IRIS 4F/60 Turbo Option employs a dual-cache architecture incorporating 64 Kbytes of instruction cache plus 32 Kbytes of data cache. The dual cache architecture increases system performance byholding large portions of the application program in efficient cache memory, and ensures that instructions and data will not compete for the same cache locations. This architecture improves performance of large applications by reducint the time required to access instructions and data. How fast is fast? Using the Dhrystone benchmark, the industry standard for measuring integer computing performance, an IRIS 4D/60 with the Turbo Option leads the superworkstation pack at 10 MIPS (ten times a VAX 11/780). Using the Linpack benchmark to measure floating point performance, the Turbo Option performs 1.1 million double precision floating point operations per second (1.1 MFLOPS). In addition to theis significatn boost in computing performance, Silicon Graphics announces support for advanced lighting models on the IRIS 4D/60, with or without the Turbo Option. Both infinite and local light sources are supported, including attenuation of local light sources with distance >from the source. Diffuse and specular (Phong) lighting are also supported, and up to eight colored light sources may be modeled simultaneously. The Turbo Option may be purchased as a field installable upgrade for the IRIS 4D/60. Please contact your local sales representative. -- typos solely my responsibility. ok r.

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Scrap Hard Drive & PC Card Prices?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/6/02 7:31:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: > I was offered about $0.15 per pound for the hard drives a while ago and > $1.00 per pound for the circuit boards. Since I probably have about 500 > - 1000 pounds of drives and cards, it is something worth looking into > :). Right now, this excess is too much of a distraction and slows down > getting other stuff done. Additionally, I've been throwing out stuff > (non computer related) and saving the gold connectors, gold plated > boards, etc. without any idea of what it might be worth. Time to find > out :). > Those are good prices on your scrap. Aluminum Breakage (Hard Drives) is about 16 cents a pound and cards run from 40 cents to $2 per pound depending on the age and how heavy the gold plate it. Cut fingers go for more. HP gold plated boards go for $3 to $3.50 per pound. Ask your scrapper how to sort your cards for maximum value. Remove all Aluminum and Iron for maximum value. There are several chip recyclers out there also who will pay a premium if the cards have chips they want to pull for resale. Many scrappers will buy small quantities. I could direct you to one in Portland, OR but I think you can find one locally. Paxton Astoria, OR

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WTD: Microtan 65 info

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, I'm looking for a copy (scanned or otherwise) of the Microtan 65 mainboard schematic and a copy of the Microtan 65 parts list. I'm planning to adapt the video circuitry to a 6502-based computer I'm currently building. Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

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LSI-11/2

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I'm betting it's as small as QBUS comes. It's a Q/Q backplane, with 4 >quad-with slots. However, I could stick it into the backplane for my >VAXstation 3200, which should be 22-bit Q/Q for most of the backplane >(perhaps Q/CD for the top three quad-width slots). Doesn't make sense to put it in the 22-bit backplane if the processor and memory can't use it... The backplane you have is fine... >OK, well, I have an 11/2 CPU and not an 11/73 CPU. If you want to >donate an 11/73 CPU, I'd be happy to take it off your hands. :) :-) Fine... an 11/23 (KDF11-A) will work there as well... and if you don't have that or can't get it, the 11/2 is fine to get the machine going. >The 'MSCP ESDI' board, part # "SCD-RQD11/EC" (I guess it's not a DEC >part, even though it says "MFG UNDER LICENSE FROM DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP" >on the back, is in my VAXstation 3200, and runs a pair of 600MB-650MB >drives that appear to be ESDI. I've got a DECNA (i think) network >adaptor in my VS3200 I could try to use. Right now, I'm wanting to try >and re-use hardware I have instead of search for hardware that is hard to >find. Okay, it isn't DEC... and is ESDI... great... you have disks (do you have a floppy to attach to it so that you can install software?) The DECNA is for the PRO series of machines... you need a DEQNA or DELQA... since you are going to be running PDP-11 OSes, the DEQNA should be fine if you can get one. If you can't, you will still have a workable machine. >Also, is it possible/easy to change the M8044-BB board (8KW?) to have at >least 16KW if not 32KW of memory? That'd be a nice upgrade for the >machine if I can do it myself with 'stock' DRAMs. Yes, you can replace the M8044-B with an M8044-C (for 16kw) or M8044-D (for 32kw). The above parts are fine, but you still need a boot board (REV-11) and a serial line unit (DLV11 or, better, a DLV11-J). If you can find an MXV11-B, you can add its memory to that of the M8044-B you already have and get up to 24kw plus two serial lines and boot code which will boot from MSCP type disks (as well as code for DX, DY, and DL). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Qbus, ISA cards free plus shipping

by fernande＠internet1.net

Free plus the cost of shipping. -3 M8043 DLVJ1-M Q 4-Line Asynchronous Interface -1 M7504 DEQNA-M Q Qbus to ethernet adapter, Q22, obsolete for VMS 5.x and above (use DELQA). -1 M7165 KDA50-Q Q Qbus SDI disk adapter, Q22 (2 of 2) (QDA SDI) -1 M7602 VCB01, QVSS Q Qbus Video Sub System module for Q22 systems (uVAX I, II) -1 M8061 RLV12 Q RL01/RL02 disk control -1 Adaptec 1542B ISA SCSI card -1 Western Digital VGA 8/16 ISA card 256K -1 IBM serial/parallel card 8-bit ISA NS16450N UART -1 Maxtor MXT-540S scsi drive made for IBM FRU 92F0406 540mb -1 IBM WDS-380 scsi drive 80mb -1 generic PC floppy cable If I've promised you cards before, please accept my apologies for not shipping yet. I'll have things boxed soon. I was working a lot of hours, and got behind with everything else. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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11/70 in VA

by root＠parse.com

I've stumbled across a PDP-11/70 in VA (+1 540 area code). It has a tape associated with it. I'm not sure how much they want, but I believe that I'll be getting some 11/70's closer to home (which are already spoken for :-)). I currently have a person who is #1 on the list for the system, and his #1 priority expires on Monday. I'm looking for a #2 person to give the system to (if my #1 doesn't want it). Any takers? Also, anyone have any PDP stuff they're getting rid of (perhaps the novelty has worn off?) :-) Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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FREE STUFF in Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got some FREE STUFF in Austin, Texas. Only thing is, you *HAVE* to pick it up, *IN PERSON*. I"m tired of people saying they'll arrange something, have someone come by, etc. Its up for grabs for the first person who shows up and can actually put this stuff to use, or emails me with a *convincing* reason why I should hold/ship it for them and has something to trade for what they want. First batch, some Sun VME boards and a 4/6x0 memory board: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/ (pictures) (the DELNI and the GRiD laptops are spoken for) Some of the cards are FDDI: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/fddi/ (pictures) Second, a Toshiba T3100 orange-plasma-screen laptop. CMOS battery is dead, but it works fine if you have a DOS boot disk and put the time in manually. Makes a GREAT serial console for a *NIX machine: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/laptop/ (pictures) (well, its more of a "portable"; it only takes AC power and is rather heavy.. if you've seen "Medicine Man" with Sean Connery, one of these is the machine he's using in his "lab" IIRC...) Third, I have a pair of IBM P70 portable (486?) systems with orange plasma displays. When I got these, one powered up but gave a "bad HD" error code, one didnt power up at all. I attempted to swap out the hard drives between the two, but after I tried that, neither would power up. I beleive they are both missing the back system cover, but would be great for replacement parts to keep another P70 running. Fourth, I have an IBM PC Convertible laptop, with dual 720K floppy drives, LCD screen (of course), battery pack, and the I/O-port "pack", in original IBM canvas carry case. Last time I fired it up (early '99?) the backlight was intermittent, but otherwise everything worked fine. Great keyboard; might make a good serial console for something. Again, free, but you must pick these up in Austin, TX, at my house. I will NOT ship anything (unless you have a REALLY good trade offer, and pay for shipping). If you want something held, you will have to trade me something interesting for what you want. I'm tired of people telling me "oh, I'll pick those up soon" or "I'll have $relative who lives near there contact you", etc. First come, first serve. I need this stuff out of the way, but its too good to trash.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Trying to thin things out via Ebay

by fernande＠internet1.net

I've listed a few auctions on Ebay. If your anyplace besides the US or Canada please let me know ahead of time, if you'd like to bid. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=fernande&i… Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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FT: TI Silent 700 terminal

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a TI Silent 700 portable thermal printing terminal (has 300 baud modem, acoustic coupler cups, etc)... but this isnt just *any* Silent 700 (model 765): This has the bubble memory expansion (which from what I understand, is rather rare). On a sticker inside the paper compartment: DATA ACCESS SYSTEMS, INC - HOUSTON Servide 713-682-6820 Sales 713-682-5965 Model # TI 765 Serial # 04766-17603 DASI OPTION VENDOR 1B07 80 K. MEM KIT II 1B10 (CHAR MAP.) Last time I fired this up a couple of years ago, it worked, although the thermal print head either needed cleaning or replacing - a pin was "missing" in some of the output. I didnt have time, at the time, to take it apart and clean it or diagnose the problem. Has the "snap-on-top" cover with carrying handle, etc. Cover was the victim of some slight paint overspray (white) when we painted part of this room, but no paint got on the unit itself. The cover only got slightly dusted on one corner; it may come off with rubbing alcohol. Would like to swap for something else interesting. I had two of these (the other didnt have all the spiffy options), and gave the other away a year or so ago... I just dont have room for this anymore, and would like to see it go to a good home. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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[CCTECH] PC board storage

by edick＠idcomm.com

If you're talking assembled and working boards, you probably want to put them in static-dissipative (primary) packaging and put that in antistatic (secondary) packaging that's capable of protecting them mechanically. The totes aren't all they're cracked up to be unless you have a way of sealing them. The "nickel" bags as primary packaging with pink-poly (non-static-generating) secondary packaging to protect them from physical trauma and the whole thing in a sturdy box together with other similarly packaged and protected boards should do the trick. A little dessicant to prevent condensation inside the primary packaging is helpful as well. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: 'CCLTech' <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: [CCTECH] PC board storage >Hello, all: > > I'm seeking opinions on long-term PC board storage. Is it better for >longer term storage of "classic" boards to individually pack them in "metal >out" static bags and store them in conventional cardboard boxes or should I >buy a few static dissipative cardboard boxes or Bentron plastic totes and >store the boards there? > >Rich > >_______________________________________________ >cctech mailing list >cctech(a)classiccmp.org >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech >

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LSI-11/2

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got an embeded syatem based around an LSI-11/2 processor board, M8044-BB (8KW?) memory, pair of DRV-11's, a MDB eprom board and ADC board. What do I need to do to make this into a functional PDP-11? I've got a DEC MSCP ESDI controller (don't remeber the part #), DLV-11 (8-port version) serial card, TQK50, and drives from my VAXstation 3200 I can try to use in it. It's from my DPE 5000, the video part of which let out a bunch of magic smoke being powered on - can't find any obvious burned parts, but haven't checked the power supply yet. Still, it's worth more to me as a LSI(PDP)-11 than a video effects box that I can't fix. First, however, I'm sure I need DEC boot roms for it, or some other way to get boot code into it. Does anyone happen to have some laying around they could maybe send me an image of? Also, I'm on the lookout for a RLV12 and berg cable to connect to the RL02 I have sitting around here.. Any ideas/help would be appreciated, and thanks in advance. -- Pat

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IDT Screenmax System

by donm＠cts.com

Does anyone have any knowledge of a machine put out by Industrial Data Terminals back in the '80s that was called the IDT Screenmax System. It was a non-standard unit that utilized a hard drive, single 5" floppy, and bubble memory to be a custom video design package. The unit in question was used to create industrial process control screens. IDT was taken over by Cutler Hammer Automation and when the unit failed in service recently it was returned to them for repair. They replaced the hard drive, did not install CP/M-86 to make it bootable, and proceeded to lose the master diskettes that they had requested be sent with the unit.

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What is this item?

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036592395 Seller claims it's a "Hardware Service Unit". Looks like a 5161 expansion unit to me. I assume this is something else, since the expansion unit is clearly marked as such on the IBM logo. (?) Jeff

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Interesting adware PDF utilities

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Apropos the endless discussions about the best ways to convert docs to electronic form, http://www.pdf995.com/ . - John

24 years, 1 month

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DPE 5000

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up a Quantel Limited DPE-5000 video switcher. You ask how this relates to computers? The interface box is an LSI-11/02 with 4KW of RAM. Wahoo! Does anyone have more info on this thing? It has an 'interface unit' - the LSI-11/02 in a 2U 19" rack case, 4 Q/Q quad-wide slots, some control boxes, cables, and a big switcher unit that is about 14" tall and 19" wide (might be rack mount using slide rails that I didn't get because they were broken. Any info would be appreciated, thanks! Also, if anyone needs one of these, I might be willing to part with it for a decent amount of money - a bit more than a few tens of dollars. -- Pat

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big IBM on Ebay??

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Ethan Dicks > > --- g(a)kurico.com wrote: > > Looks like an AT&T logo on the front. Probably an NCR if it has MCA > > slots. > > > > George > > > > On 3 Jul 2002 at 2:37, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > > > Don't really know what it is, but it claims to have MCA slots?? > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036499330 > > ISTR "3555" is a model of NCR box. We used them when I was at Lucent > (they were bought before AT&T "trivested" into AT&T, NCR and Lucent). > > They typically run SYSVr4, but I was told that you _could_ boot them > to DOS and play DOOM on them (I didn't ask ;-) > > Big ones like that were MCA. Newer NCR servers were 1/3 the size and > PCI. I think most of ours were quad Pentium-90 boxes.... > > __________________________________________________ > Pretty neat box. Quad Pentium 133 with 256 MB of RAM? Just how much RAM could that beast take? It'd be quite the conversation piece as a workstation running NetBSD (or something) and XWindows... 8-) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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big IBM on Ebay??

by fernande＠internet1.net

Don't really know what it is, but it claims to have MCA slots?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2036499330 Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Lisa 1 Registry (WAS Re: And, the insanity continues)

by jd＠hq.sjaa.com.au

Hi Sellam, Well better count me in for my "frankenlisa" as you previously referred to it. You may remember it was upgraded to a Lisa 2/5 and I subsequently 'downgraded' (?) to a Lisa 1. Had to find the I/O ROM, twiggy drives and cage and the front panel, reconnect the two resisters etc,etc. I even managed to find a complete set of Lisa OS and Office v1 disks. Unfortunately, the Lisa OS disk 1 went bad before I could install the Profile. I now have a new (copied) set on the way. I have got it to boot the Lisa 1 version of BPI accounting though. I've also got a copy of Unix for Lisa 1 but the serialized ROM is causing me trouble. Anyone ever found a technician's video ROM with no serial number? If so I'd love to get a copy! I remember someone contacted me about an application they were writing to take images of twiggy floppies - a flurry of activity at first, then nothing. Anyone else heard from them? Kind regards, Justin Dunlop Melbourne, Australia >The reserve was met at $10,000, which is exactly the value that I would >place on a working Lisa 1 of this caliber, with the accessories included. >I know of around maybe a dozen in existence now (with you having two that >brings the total up :) >I need to start a Lisa 1 registry. Who's got one (or two)? > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Justin M. Dunlop email: jd(a)hq.sjaa.com.au ____________________________________________________________________________

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C8080A needed

by classiccmp＠mail.vintage-computer.com

Due to a small mishap I find myself in need of one or two C8080As or some other variant of that chip. Does anyone out there have any functional ones for sale or maybe for trade? Thanks, Erik

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Need IC Master Catalogs (1989-1991)

by foo＠siconic.com

I am in need of IC Master catalogs for the years 1989-1991. Anyone have any to part with or know where I can get them? Please reply directly to <sellam(a)vintagetech.com> Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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[maybe OT]: WTD: Panasonic KXP4400 RAM upgrade board

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, About a month ago, I bought myself a laser printer. Specifically, a Panasonic KX-P4400 (OK, so it's an LED printer, not a laser, big deal). Unfortunately, the thing only has 1MB of RAM onboard. Panasonic want $400 for a 4MB upgrade board ($100 per megabyte? WHAT?) and Kingston have discontinued their $40 clone. Sooo... Has anyone got a Panasonic "KX-PEM1", "KX-PEM2" or "KX-PEM3" module lying around somewhere? Alternatively, the Kingston Technology equivalents, "KT4400LP/2" or "KT4400LP/4" would be suitable. Anyone got one of these boards they feel like parting with? Printing out schematics on this thing is damn near impossible with only 1MB of RAM... Contact me off-list if you've got one of the aforementioned boards; I wouldn't want to end up pushing the signal-to-noise ratio on Classiccmp any higher :-) Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

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Fw: Good Finds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Can anyone help this guy out? I will have to look around and see if I have a manual for one of these but that will take awhile. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rasmus Djupedal To: jrkeys(a)concentric.net Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 6:36 AM Subject: Re: Good Finds hey i just saw your mail adress on an old messageboard on the net. im wondering if you have any info about the Sharp CE-150.. i mean list of available commands and how to use them. I would really appriciate if you could reply tot his message with some info or a link som get site on the net explaining all the commands and how to use the CE-150. thanks /Rasmus

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Philips Garage Sale and Auction, update

by class＠fliptronics.com

Hi, Philip's garage sale and auction, phase 1, is comming to an end. I have updated the web site with more details, and some new items. Please see this URL for auction details, and the new pics. http://www.fliptronics.com/garagesale/ Thanks for your interest, Philip Freidin

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Questions about Central Point Deluxe Option board

by aek＠spies.com

High resolution scans of both deluxe and non-deluxe boards will be up at www.spies.com/aek/c2opt for the next week or so, for the curious.

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And, the insanity continues

by celt＠chisp.net

Maybe it's time to drag my two Lisa 1's out of storage... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033627836 And the reserve isn't even met yet! /mpm

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Philips Garage Sale and Auction, update

by philip＠fliptronics.com

Hi, Philip's garage sale and auction, phase 1, is comming to an end. I have updated the web site with more details, and some new items. Please see this URL for auction details, and the new pics. http://www.fliptronics.com/garagesale/ Thanks for your interest, Philip Freidin

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non DEC drives (was: DEC 350)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 1, 13:42, Megan wrote: > Somewhere I have a set of the sources for the RQDX1/2 boards. They > were designed to recognize certain disks from certain vendors. The > code does not make much attempt to truly determine geometry, it > uses hard-wired values, which is why only certain ones work. > > I have no doubt that when the RQDX3 was done it was implemented in > the same way... that only certain disks from certain vendors would > be recognized. To have it recognize another disk, you would have > to add an entry to the disk characteristics table in the source > for the firmware and blast a new set of ROMs. Actually, you wouldn't, that's one of the big differences between the RQDX1/2 and RQDX3. The 1/2 perform various tricks to try to work out what disk is connected, especially when formatting. The tricks vary between versions of the firmware, so I have a 10MB Rodime disk which one RQDX2 version will "recognise" and format but other versions won't. Several years ago, I had an interesting email conversation with Chuck O'Toole who wrote the sniffer code (and most of the MSCP, geometry, and access code) for the RQDX1, which is part of the DUP utilities in the firmware. It was intended to autosize certain known drive types that DEC would/might sell, to differentiate between them, and it was known that the succesor (eventually, the RQDX3) would be along later, so there was no great incentive to make it fully general. However, the RQDX3 doesn't depend on the tricks. The formatter doesn't rely on DUP utilities built into the RQDX firmware but uses tables in the formatter software (XXDP ZRQC??.BIN). It only uses the DUP utilities to perform the actual track formatting. There's an option to force it to use a table entry of your choice (including entries for common drives like ST-251 and ST225) and even an option to bypass the tables and enter all the necessary values by hand, though it takes a bit of effort to work out what they all should be for any given drive. Tim Shoppa posted some information to the list in 1997 about the makeup of the various numbers, and I have some more in some manuals which I might be persuaded to dig out if anyone is really enthusiastic. It would still take a bit of exprimentation and guesswork, though. DEC's patent describes the basic ideas and the TLAs: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/ne…''4,434,487''.WKU.&OS=PN/"4,434,487"&RS=PN/"4,434,487" -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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VAX11/780 going further

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, today I received the PCS module replacement I needed for the 11/780. And it helped indeed. See the transcript below. I do get some timeout at step 54, please have a look. I don't know what the problem is. May be it was going to test the DW780 and I didn't have the UNIBUS cabinet powered? Thanks, -Gunther CPU HALTED,SOMM CLEAR,STEP=NONE,CLOCK=NORM RAD=HEX,ADD=PHYS,DAT=LONG,FILL=00,REL=00000000 INIT SEQ DONE HALTED AT 00000000 (RELOADING WCS) LOAD DONE, 0800 MICROWORDS LOADED VER: PCS=01 WCS=0E-10 FPLA=0F CON=V07-00-L ?WARNING-WCS & FPLA VER MISMATCH >>>TEST ZZ-ESKAB V14.0 ESKAD -- V13.1 01,02,03,04, NO. OF 1K BANKS OF WCS = 0002 05,06,07,08,09,0A,0B,0C,0D,0E,0F,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17, 18,19,1A,1B,1C,1D,1E,1F, ESKAH-V13.2 20, SYSTEM ID REGISTER = 0140B63E KE780 FPLA NOT PRESENT 21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,2A,2B,2C,2D,2E, 2F,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,3A,3B,3C, END PASS 0001 MOUNT FLOPPY ZZ-ESZAD & TYPE "DI" MIC>DI ESKAR-V2.0 3D,3E, CPU TR = 00000010 MS780H 256K CHIP AT TR 00000001 LOWER CNTRLLR MAX ADDRESS+1= 01000000 UPPER CNTRLLR MAX ADDRESS+1= 01000000 DW780 AT TR 00000003 RH780 AT TR 00000008 RH780 AT TR 00000009 3F,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,4A,4B,4C,4D,4E,4F,50,51,52, MS780-E/H IO BASE ADDRESS = 20002000 LOWER CONTROLLER MAX ADDR + 1 = 01000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000000 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000001 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000002 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000003 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 MS780-E/H IO BASE ADDRESS = 20002000 UPPER CONTROLLER MAX ADDR + 1 = 01000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000000 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000001 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000002 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 BOARD NUMBER = 00000003 NUMBER OF CRD ERRORS = 00000000 53, MS780-H 256K CHIP AT TR 00000001 M8376 ROMS OK 54, ?TIMEOUT IN TEST 01FF UPC= 1241 MIC> -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Apple ][ ignorance

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Okay, dug out the Apple ][e, DuoDisk, and ImageWriter II I was given some time back, got a SuperSerial card installed and configured and the ImageWriter II works fine. DuoDisk works too, but what is the command to select a specific drive? At this point all I can read/write to is the boot drive (left-most drive) TIA -- Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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[CCTECH] PC board storage

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I'm seeking opinions on long-term PC board storage. Is it better for longer term storage of "classic" boards to individually pack them in "metal out" static bags and store them in conventional cardboard boxes or should I buy a few static dissipative cardboard boxes or Bentron plastic totes and store the boards there? Rich _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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Classic Computer Spider

by blacklord＠telstra.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> Date: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:07 am Subject: Re: Classic Computer Spider > David Barnes wrote: > > and aren't brown recluse spiders VERY dangerous? > > Well not like the Sidney Funnel Web, but yes they are dangerous. SYDNEY!!!! They're *very* nasty, ranks up there as about the most deadly spider in the world, the females bite can kill within 2 hours, the males within 15 minutes. However, they generally don't lurk in old computers :-) Shoes, clothes & beds are better :-) Deaths are fairly rare though, anti venom has been available for some time. This thread recently came up in the Fidonet SF echo too, wonder if it's spreading..... Lance ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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help with majordomo

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Alex White <meltie(a)myrealbox.com> wrote: > Putting it in the headers is a nice touch but hardly the first place i'd > look for unsub info. It seems to be the wave of the present for automated mailing lists. Personally I miss the days when, given a list addressed "list@host", list-request@host could reasonably be assumed to be read by someone who understood words like "please", or at least didn't reply to such words with an error report. I like automated list-management software too, I just don't appreciate the change of the old convention. -Grumpy Ol' Frank

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Apple ][ ignorance

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Okay, dug out the Apple ][e, DuoDisk, and ImageWriter II I was given some >time back, got a SuperSerial card installed and configured and the >ImageWriter II works fine. DuoDisk works too, but what is the command to >select a specific drive? > >At this point all I can read/write to is the boot drive (left-most drive) I'm REALLY rusty on my Apple II stuff, but IIRC, you swap drives with the D command (D1 for drive one D2 for drive 2). So for a catalog, it is "catalog D2" to show what is on drive 2. And IIRC once it is issued, it stays on the last drive used, so from there, RUN and similar commands will effect drive 2. You would issue a new "catalog D1" to swap back to drive 1. Ok, that is my rusty as hell rememberance (I haven't done anything on an Apple II in YEARS other than boot them to see if they come on), so I am eager to see just how wrong my memory is. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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OT: Power Line Carrier communications ...

by edick＠idcomm.com

If anyone has some recent COTS-equipment experience with this technology, please contact me off-list. thanks, Dick

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And, the insanity continues

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I need to start a Lisa 1 registry. Who's got one (or two)? Who's got one (or two) and wants to give one to ME? And when is a working 128k going to pull 10 g's? I have two of those I could hock (and one dead one). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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help with majordomo

by hjagnew＠mba1.mba-consulting.com

I'm really sorry to post but I have no choice, there is no admin link on the web page that tells me where else to go for problem resolution. I want to unsubscribe from the list but huey.classiccmp.org is not accepting mail for majordomo. Here is a copy of my session with smtp. Thanks for any help! Jared hjagnew:mba1:~/mail > telnet huey.classiccmp.org 25 Trying 209.145.140.36... Connected to huey.classiccmp.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 huey.classiccmp.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:41:01 -0500 (CDT) HELO mba1.mba-consulting.com 250 huey.classiccmp.org Hello hjagnew(a)mba1.mba-consulting.com [207.154.57.74], pleased to meet you MAIL FROM: hjagnew(a)mba1.mba-consulting.com 250 2.1.0 hjagnew(a)mba1.mba-consulting.com... Sender ok RCPT To: majordomo(a)classiccmp.org 550 5.1.1 majordomo(a)classiccmp.org... User unknown quit 221 2.0.0 huey.classiccmp.org closing connection Connection closed by foreign host.

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Help booting CTOS/BTOS

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Doc I have 3 or 4 CTOS/BTOS machines, power supplies and cables. One of the machines has a hard disk and a floopy. I suspect there is an OS on the hard disk. I don't have a console terminal. I'll try and look at it this week. mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Fw: DEC Vax 6000-310

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Can anyone do something to help out this young lady? Her husband was aiming for a noble deed, and we should support him. Bob >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kate Olin" <blue(a)intrnet.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 08:00 PM >Subject: DEC Vax 6000-310 > >I have a DEC Vax 6000-310 I have to sell. If interested, please email... blue(a)intrnet.net > also >If he could get his expenses back, he'd be happy in that he'd feel he was >preserving it and sending it to a good home, but if he can't get that, I'm >sure the tax deduction [to a charitable, computer-preserving, organization] > might take the sting out of it. He didn't pay that much for it. With the >hauling and what it cost him, I think he's got a 100 dollars in it. > >Anyway, thanks so much. I hope we can get our money back on it. My husband >just couldn't imagine letting them scrap it and he loves DEC stuff. If >anyone is interested too, perhaps we should tell them that it is located >deep in Southern Illinois (almost the tip of the state). And if needing >shipping, freightquote is really cheap for that. We've been really happy >with them.

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help with majordomo

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"H. Jared Agnew" <hjagnew(a)mba1.mba-consulting.com> wrote: > I'm really sorry to post but I have no choice, there is no admin link > on the web page that tells me where else to go for problem resolution. > I want to unsubscribe from the list but huey.classiccmp.org is not > accepting mail for majordomo. Here is a copy of my session with smtp. In the header of every message sent to this list is the following: List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> -Frank McConnell

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Fwd: Teletype model 33 TBP in UK

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Return-Path: <chezzy.williams(a)virgin.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:31:37 +0100 From: Cheryl Williams <chezzy.williams(a)virgin.net> Reply-To: chezzy.williams(a)virgin.net Organization: Netscape Online member Subject: Teletype machine for preservation Hi, I have a Teletype model 33 TBP that I need to get rid of. I have had this for years and obtained it as part of a deal when I bought a Commodore VIC 20 many moons ago. The unit is (I believe) in full working order. Would you be aware of anyone in the UK who might be interested in preserving this unit. If so could you please forward details to me a.s.a.p. regards, Ed Williams please reply to ed.williams(a)virgin.net

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Question about DECservers

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I seem to remember someone saying that the DECservers are basically a Q-Bus PDP-11 system. Is this correct, or am I thinking of something else? Also, does anyone know what they're based off of and if it's possible to make them boot a 'conventional' os by changing their bootroms? Thanks -- Pat

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HP 9000/300 (And some Help Needed)

by tarsi＠binhost.com

Recent Acquire: HP 9000/300 in a rolling case, quite sexy. Below is a listing of cards and disks with it. I need some help identifying the cards marked with a star (*). If anyone has info on any of them, please let me know. I've tried to write down as many numbers on the cards as I could find to help in the identification. If anyone has docs for any of the below, please contact me. As well, I'm looking for an HP-HIL keyboard. HP 9000/300 in two cases that link together through a many-pinned connector. TOP CASE *Card 1 HP4BL REV C 49A Has an Intel 80286-8mHz CPU on it Card 2 HP 98658A SCSI Controller Card 3 Blank Slot Card 4 HP System Interface 88809L HP-HIL Keyboard Port *Subcard: 81712L A-2809-40 2827-2053 BOTTOM CASE Card 1 DI0-II 16M Memory Card 98264B *Card 2 CPU Card - Motorola M68030 A-2903-40 2922-6135 Card 3 98264-55520 16MB Memory Card Card 4 98550A/A1416A "Catseye" Framebuffer card 1280x1024 60Hz 8bit color Card Disk #1 HP 7958A Serial 2750A15146 SCSI ID: 0 Option: STD Disk: Micropolis ESDI 170MB Disk #2 HP 7945A Serial 2700A01117 X421 Address 0010 Option: STD/888 Disk: Vertex Peripherals Model V170 ESDI 170MB Display: Starts Up With: P2 Self-Test: P2 Display Results: U0 -- ------------------------------------------------- You'll often find me at The Forever Beyond, an all-ages chat room. Visit us at http://www.foreverbeyond.org My homepage is at http://tarsi.binhost.com Need Internet hosting? Try binHOST! http://www.binhost.com -------------------------------------------------

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anti-tamper seals was Re: [OT] Waddizzit??

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Does anyone have a good way to clean off that checkerboard pattern that >they leave behind? It's seems to be impervious to most solvents. A razor blade paint scraper has worked for me in the past. However... you must be VERY careful (and it takes some practice), or you will nick the case when scraping the label off. But it will work for most everything stuck on. If a few bits of glue are left behind, they can usually be rubbed off with Avon Skin So Soft, or Simple Green cleaning solvent (I usually use a combination, Skin So Soft does a great job of loosening the glue, but all it seems to do is reactivate it, you then need to use something to actually clean the now working glue off, or as the oil in the Skin So Soft dries, the glue will just come back, sticky as ever) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VCF Gazette Volume 1 Issue 2

by vcf＠siconic.com

VCF Gazette Volume 1, Issue 2 A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival June 12, 2002 Hello Vintage Computer Fans! We've got a lot of exciting news for you in this issue of the VCF Gazette, including: VCF Europa 3.0 Retrospective VCF 5.0 Update VCF Open House Update Latest Additions to the VCF Archives VCF Archives Now Searchable Online Upcoming Features VCF Europa 3.0 Restrospective ----------------------------- VCF Europa 3.0 was a smashing success. With about 300 attendees and 30 exhibits, the air was rife with vintage computing nostalgia. The Best of Show grand prize went to Thomas and Hendrik Falk for their exhibit of amazing analog computers. See photos from VCF Europa 3.0 here: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?title=VCF%20Europa%203.0&grouptag=VCFEUR… Gaby Chaudry, VCF Europa 3.0 Exhibitor and CP/M Archive maintainer, has more pictures of VCF Europa 3.0 exhibits here: http://www.gaby.de/vcfpics/vcf3gaby/index.htm VCF 5.0 Update -------------- The dates for VCF 5.0 have been finalized! Mark your calendar for September 21st and 22nd when the fifth Vintage Computer Festival will be held at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, California. We are very happy to be moving the event back to the Santa Clara Convention Center which has a nice facility, a convenient location, and ample (free!) parking. As you may recall from the last VCF Gazette, we were planning to hold the VCF in conjunction with a handful of other events, tentatively calling it GeekWeek. Unfortunately, we were unable to secure a common venue for all the events to run together on the same date. However, we plan to regroup for next year and try again. But for this year, we are still running side by side with the Xtreme Games Developers Conference and possibly the tentatively named San Francisco International Conference of Hackers. California Extreme and Superauctions will be held September 7-8 at the Parkside Hall complex of the San Jose Convention Center in San Jose, California. We have created a webpage to provide information on affiliated events here: http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/co-events.php We are currently in the process of putting together another top notch speaker program. As in past years, we will have two tracks running concurrently with 8-10 talks total across both days of the event. Stay tuned for future VCF updates which will inform you of added speakers. This year being the 30th anniversary of the founding of Atari, we plan to celebrate this event by featuring talks on Atari's history, and we will be giving away vintage Atari computers for door prizes. More details to come. Of course, all the usual attractions that you've come to expect from the Vintage Computer Festival will be featured, including the Vintage Computer Exhibition, the VCF Marketplace, and the Nerd Trivia Challenge. We also plan to host vintage computer programming contests in conjunction with the Xtreme Games Developers Conference, with the goal being to create, from scratch, a video game on one of several different vintage computer platforms including, but not limited to, the Apple ][, Commodore 64 and PET, Atari 800, TRS-80, and IBM PC. Rules and procedures are still being formulated so stay tuned for further VCF 5.0 updates. The VCF always features some of the most amazing computer exhibits as individual collectors bring out the pride and joy of their collection to show off. If you are interested in exhibiting your computer at the VCF this year, now is the time to register. We have some great prizes to give away to our top winners, including a new, in-the-box, Sharp PC-5000. The PC-5000 is one of the first clam-shell type portables which was first sold in 1983. It is a truly historic computer, one of the first that was small enough to comfortably carry around yet still functional enough to be useful (unlike other portables of the day). To register your exhibit, please visit: http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/exhibit.php If you have a load of vintage computing items that you'd like to unload, be a vendor at the VCF Marketplace. The VCF Marketplace is the best venue to sell your vintage computer items to a targeted audience. We also have consignment sales for people who have a small number of items to sell. For complete vendor information, visit: http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/vendor.php General information on VCF 5.0 including date, time, location, directions, and lodging information, visit the VCF 5.0 web site: http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/ VCF Open House Update --------------------- You may recall from our last issue that we planned to announce a VCF Open House when we were done with organizing the VCF Archives and setting up a computer museum at the Alameda County Computer Resource Center. We are not there yet, but we are getting closer. We have secured enough computer floor tile to cover the area where we will be setting up the museum, but we lack the support members for the tiles. We are hoping to find what we need soon, or else come up with an alternative from our local hardware store. Either way, we are still working hard towards getting the VCF Archives ready for our Open House. We hope to have the Open House by late summer, before VCF 5.0. Stay tuned. In the meantime, please visit the Alameda County Computer Resource Center, the largest non-profit computer recycling operation on the west coast of the United States, who have been incredibly generous in lending space to the VCF to store its archives: http://www.accrc.org/ If you have computer flooring to donate, or know of someone who does, please contact us at <vcf(a)vintage.org>. Latest Additions to the VCF Archives ------------------------------------ While we at the VCF have been focusing most of our recent attention on sorting and cataloguing the existing artifacts in the VCF Archives, we still occasionally go out to scrounge up new items and we receive somei items from helpful donors as well. The latest donation is an IBM 026 Printing Card Punch. The 026 was introduced in 1949 and served many computer installations dependably for decades. Some of these punches were still in use in some organizations as late as the 1980s, and there may still be some in operation in different parts of the world, a testament to the fine engineering of IBM. The 026 card punch was donated to the Vintage Computer Festival by Karl Bender of Bakersfield, California. We've created a small picture gallery of the 026 here: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?title=IBM%20026%20Printing%20Card%20Punc… Other recent significant additions to the VCF Archives include: o Teletype Corporation ASR-33 o IBM 3420 reel-to-reel tape drive o Apple //e with SwyftCard (converts Apple //e into a Canon Cat) VCF Archives Now Searchable Online ---------------------------------- Recently the VCF began cataloguing its archive. This will be a long and arduous process, as there are several thousand items to sort through and catalog. The VCF has made it's existing artifact database searchable on the web through its VintageTech affiliate business. To search the VCF Archives, visit the VintageTech website and click on the "Search the VintageTech Archives" icon. http://www.vintagetech.com/ The Vintage Computer Festival makes its archives available for use commercially through VintageTech, providing services such as patent litigation support and prior art searches, consulting and props for the film and photography industry, data and media conversion, vintage computer appraisals and sales brokering, and general computer history consulting. Upcoming Features ----------------- The VCF is always working on new features to keep the vintage computer enthusiast coming back to the VCF website. Upcoming additions include an online Nerd Trivia Challenge and the VCF Marketplace. The Nerd Trivia Challenge is a contest held at each Vintage Computer Festival to test the computer history knowledge of qualifying contestants. Now anyone will be able to experience this same challenge online. The online version of the Nerd Trivia Challenge should be available sometime this summer and will feature questions >from past Nerd Trivia Challenge competitions. The VCF is also rolling out a new vintage computer marketplace. The VCF Marketplace will allow buyers and sellers to come together to trade old computers and related items in an open and fair market. Sellers will be able to choose from several different sale and auction mechanisms to vend their wares. Buyers will be able to quickly and easily locate specific items they are seeking. There will also be message boards and, eventually, personal inventory tools for collectors and store fronts for regular vintage computer sellers. The VCF Marketplace will initially be free to use. Look for it by mid Summer. Classic Tech Eletter -------------------- The Classic Tech Eletter, an e-mail newsletter that covers news, stories and events in the world of computer collecting, is now on its eighth issue. I love the Classic Tech Eletter and look forward to each new issue. Check it out! Subscribe to the Classic Tech Eletter and see back issues at: http://www.classictechpub.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- That wraps it up for this issue of the VCF Gazette! Until next time... Best regards, Sellam Ismail Producer Vintage Computer Festival http://www.vintage.org/ The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their history. The VCF Gazette goes out to anyone who subscribed to the VCF mailing list, and is intended to keep those interested in the VCF informed of the latest VCF events and happenings. The VCF Gazette is guaranteed to be published in a somewhat irregular manner, though we will try to maintain a quarterly schedule. If you would like to be removed from the VCF mailing list, and therefore not receive any more issues of the VCF Gazette, visit the following web page: http://www.vintage.org/remove.php ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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OT: Been There, Screamed About That

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

This is beautiful. I've seen most of the pieces before, but I like it still. Doc Suggestions From Your Friends In Information Technologies Support 1) When you call us to have your computer moved, be sure to leave it buried under half a ton of postcards, baby pictures, stuffed animals, dried flowers, bowling trophies and children's art. We don't have a life, and we find it deeply moving to catch a fleeting glimpse of yours. 2) Don't write anything down. Ever. We can play back the error messages >from here. 3) When an IT person says he's coming right over, go for coffee. That way you won't be there when we need your password. It's nothing for us to remember 300 screensaver passwords. 4) When you call the help desk, state what you want, not what's keeping you from getting it. We don't need to know that you can't get into your mail because your computer won't power on at all. 5) When IT Support sends you an email titled "Important!", delete it at once. We're just testing. 6) When an IT person is eating lunch at his desk, walk right in and spill your guts right out. We exist only to serve. 7) Send urgent email all in uppercase. The mail server picks it up and flags it as a rush delivery. 8) When the photocopier doesn't work, call computer support. There's electronics in it. 9) When you're getting a NO DIAL TONE message at home, call computer support. We can fix your telephone line from here. 10) When you have a dozen old computer screens to get rid of, call computer support. We're collectors. 11) When something's wrong with your home PC, dump it on an IT person's chair with no name, no phone number and no description of the problem. We love a puzzle. 12) When you bring your own personal home PC for repair at the office, leave the disks and documentation at home. We'll find all the settings and drivers somewhere..... 13) When an IT person tells you that computer screens don't have cartridges in them, argue. We love a good argument. 14) When an IT person tells you that he'll be there shortly, reply in a scathing tone of voice: "And just how many weeks do you mean by shortly?" That motivates us. 15) When the printer won't print, re-send the job at least 20 times. Print jobs frequently get sucked into black holes. 16) When the printer still won't print after 20 tries, send the job to all 68 printers in the company. One of them is bound to work. 17) There's no need to learn the proper name for anything technical. We know exactly what you mean by "my thingy blew up" 18) Don't EVER use the online help. Online help is for wimps. 19) If the mouse cable keeps knocking down the framed picture of your dog, lift the computer and stuff the cable under it. Mouse cables were designed to have 20kg of computer sitting on top of them. 20) If the space bar on your keyboard doesn't work, blame it on the mail upgrade. Keyboards are actually very happy with half a pound of muffin crumbs and nail clippings in them. 21) Whenever you get a message saying "Are you sure?" click on that Yes button as fast as you can. Hell, if you weren't sure, you wouldn't be doing it, would you? 22) When you find an IT person on the phone with his bank, sit uninvited on the corner of his desk and stare at him until he hangs up. We don't have any money to speak of anyway. 23) Feel perfectly free to say things like "I don't know nothing about that computer crap." We don't mind at all hearing our area of professional expertise referred to as feces. 24) When an IT person gets on the elevator pushing $600,000 worth of computer equipment on a cart, ask in a very loud voice: "Good grief, you take the elevator to go DOWN one floor?!?" That's another one that cracks us up no end. 25) When you need to change the toner cartridge in a printer, call IT Support. Changing a toner cartridge is an extremely complex task, and Hewlett-Packard recommends that it be performed only by a professional engineer with a master's degree in nuclear physics. 26) When you can't find someone in the government directory, call IT Support. 27) When you have a lock to pick on an old file cabinet, call IT Support. We love to hack. 28) When something's the matter with your computer, ask your secretary to call the help desk. We enjoy the challenge of having to deal with a third party who doesn't know anything about the problem. 29) When you receive a 30mb (huge) movie file, send it to everyone as a mail attachment. We've got lots of disk space on that mail server. 30) Don't even think of breaking large print jobs down into smaller chunks. Somebody else might get a chance to squeeze a memo into the queue. 31) When you lose your car keys, send an email to the entire company. People out in Pofadder, Nebraska like to keep abreast of what's going on. 32) Don't bother to tell us when you move computers around on your own. Computer names are just a cosmetic feature. 33) When you bump into an IT person at the grocery store on a Saturday, ask a computer question. Heck, ask him to come look at it! We do weekends. An overdone burger and a warm beer is always fair compensation for several hours of weekend work. Thanks, Your Friends In IT Support

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9 track capacity

by edick＠idcomm.com

It does depend somewhat on the bit density, doesn't it? If it's at 800bpi, you take 8 tracks, (one's probably parity) and multiply the useable length by the number of bits per inch, and the rest depends on the data record format and whatever overhed there is for headers, CRC, etc. There are ANSI standards that apply to each density, so that's a good place to start. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Jim Arnott <jrasite(a)eoni.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, June 29, 2002 6:19 PM Subject: 9 track capacity >Help, I've forgotten. What's the storage capacity of a 1200' 9 track >magtape. > >TIA > >Jim > >

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by FOOF1234＠aol.com

I have a bondwell 310sx & need a new screen & battery cover. I like the toy none of the bells & whistles that get in the way Phil

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Bringing Tektronix 4051s back to life

by montym＠swbell.net

Nick, I found your message a little late :) Have you been able to revive your 4051 yet? My 4054 had the exact same symptom, I found that one of the socketed DRAMs was bad and replaced it. I do happen to have the two volume service manuals for the 4051 I used in the 70's. The CPU Board has all the 6800 components and the two banks of 4K bit MCM6605L DRAMs for 8K Bytes of standard DRAM. If you have the memory expansion board - options 20 (16KB more), 21 (24KB more) or 22 (32KB more), you might try unplugging that option card to see if the 8KB base memory is ok. If yes, then try unplugging banks of option memory to isolate the bad DRAM(s). The troubleshooting guide says check the 6800 section first if the unit fails to power up. Contact me directly for more info. Monty McGraw 4052 and 4054 owner

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Fwd: donating a computer

by jfoust＠threedee.com

>From: "Robert Campbell" <camprbt(a)attbi.com> >To: <jfoust(a)threedee.com> >Subject: donating a computer >Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:26:44 -0700 > >I have an IBM Proprinter, an AT&T PC 6300 from the mid 1980s, and daisy >wheel printer from the early 80s. They all worked the last time I tried >them, and are now all in the original boxes, and I still have all the >manuals, etc. > >The PC 6300 is similar to the one on your web site. > >If these are items you can make use of, I will be willing to ship them to >you at my expense. > >Thank you. > >Robert Campbell >314 Willow CT N >Bellingham, WA 98225 >camprbt(a)attbi.com

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DEC gear with T-11 chip

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Did they really use them for 8600 console's? >I thought those were all Dec >Pro350's and 380's. Yes, the 8600 (Venus) console did use the T-11. You are thinking of the Nautilus machines (VAX 8700 and VAX 8800) which used a Pro 380 as the console. The later (closely related) Polarstar series (VAX 8830, VAX 8840, VAX 8820) used the MicroVAX II as a console. I found some references to the Simpact ICP1600 claiming that it too used a T-11. There's also T-11 support in MAME ... it looks like some Atari arcade games may have used it (came as something of a surprise to me ...) Antonio

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VAXen Needed

by dittman＠dittman.net

I'm in need of a VAX 7660 (or any 76x0) and a 66x0. If you have any of these you'd let go for cheap, and can guarantee they are working when picked up, please let me know. I will even handle the shipping details myself. I'd also be able to use a 7730 instead of the 7660. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Brown Recluse spider

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

For those arachnophobes, check out this link: http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html Sam's picture doesn't look like a brown recluse. Rich

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[CCTECH] Rescue needed in the Twin Cities

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today I got a email from a guy looking to give away a Zenith 8088 system and since I'm no longer up there I can't get it. Anyone interested? If so I will send you his email address. Thanks John

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[OT] Waddizzit??

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Michael Passer <passerm(a)umkc.edu> > Being a little hard on Yugo there, aren't we :)? The thing I remember most > about Packard Bell was that a friend of my wife's bought one (without asking > my advice), needed some help, and it had tamper resistant seals over the > edges that asserted a voided warranty if the case was opened. My thoughts > were along the lines of "how dare they?" They *dare* because of the customers. People who would never dream of working on a TV set will eagerly open a PC and cause all kinds of havoc. I use warranty labels in my shop, and the warranty is VOID if the seal is broken, but if I know the customer has a reasonable level of skill, tempered with caution, I tell them not to worry about breaking the seal. I don't sell motherboards any more, for the same reason. Last one I sold was a dual-processor Asus board (not cheap) and the customer returned it one hour later with an area about 3" x 5" on the board *charred black* on both sides of the board. He claimed I sold him "junk" and was in my face when I told him I wouldn't replace it. Fortunately there was an off-duty deputy sheriff in the store at the time . . . absolutely not worth the hassle. Warranty seals *do* have their uses . . . Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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Fw: Latest Finds in Houston

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

----- Original Message ----- From: Keys To: cctech@classiccmp Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Latest Finds in Houston 1. Several TI 99/4A cartridges: Extended Basic PHM3026 Plato Interpreter Solid State PHM3122 Logo II OHM 3109 Editor/Assembler PHM 3055 Microsoft Multiplan PHM 313 Return To Pirates Isle PHM 3189 2. Some Atari 2600 cartridges 3. PB Legend 520SX system 4. Silver-Reed EXP770 printer 5. Samsung Composite color monitor 6. TurboPad for TurboGrafix16 still looking for power supplies for these puppies. 7. Sega control pad for the Master system. 8. Several other items to new to list here.

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OT: Been There, Screamed About That

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu> > I'm reminded of one of my users who said her whole computer would > "freak out" when she used her mouse. (BTW She's right handed...) So, once I > get to her desk, everything is okay for me, and using the mouse (located to > the right, and behind the keyboard.) was normal. > So I ask her to show me. That's when I see her heavy, very loose & > baggy sleeve, wool sweater push down just about every key on the numeric > keypad. Especially the Enter key. When I pointed this out to her, she said > "No it's not. It's the computer!" > "Really? Okay. Well I'm gonna go downstairs and check the server for > problems. In the meantime, watch your sleeve, just in case." > And no, I didn't bother with the server. Just went to lunch. And > never heard about that problem again... A similar thing happened on a project I wrote code for years ago. A user at a remote location reported that the program was inserting spaces, at random, into the data entry form. Suspecting a faulty keyboard (other users had no trouble with the same form) I had the locals replace the keyboard, but that didn't help. Even replacing the entire PC didn't fix the problem, so my boss told me to go the location and fix whatever was going on. Upon arrival I found that the user in question was fairly short and had a habit of leaning forward into her desk. The problem was, her tits were pushing on the spacebar . . . Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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Forth for PDP-11

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Hans B Pufal" <hansp(a)aconit.org> > >Zane H. Healy wrote: >>>2 3 + . >>> >>>That's a total of 8 keys to press -- >>><two><space><three><space><plus><space><period><return> >>> >>>You should get >>>5 OK >>>on the terminal (or something like that, with a 5 in it). >> >> >> Unfortunatly it results in: >> >> 2 3 + . .? > >The comment on the SOL page says it is a "non-standard" FORTH so perhaps >reading the docs might be advisable. > > -- hbp > > Hi It sounds like they replaced all of the '.' words. When people start out in Forth, they find it hard to get used to all of the shorthand words. Things like . @ ! , don't have any meaning until one uses them for a while. Since defining them is so easy, I've always thought the one could just alias them. Once one got used to the other quirks of the language, one could take advantage of the shorthand words. I still use Forth for most any of the quick stuff I want to do at home. It is probably the fast way to go from idea to working program that I've encountered. I've written assemblers, disassemblers, special editors, special file transfer and any mumber of utilies with it. It isn't as strong as perl for string handling but if you know what you want to do, the language itself doesn't get in the way. It is said that in Forth, "You don't write a program for your application in Forth, you modify Forth to be your application". Dwight

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Classic Computer Spider

by foo＠siconic.com

Check out this beauty: http://www.siconic.com/crap/Classic%20Computer%20Spider.jpg She's about 3 inches in diameter. Maybe not the biggest you've ever seen, but pretty much the biggest that's ever come out of my garage. I found her hiding in the corner of my garage amidst the last remaining old computer stuffs that are there. I caught her in a glass, where she spent the rest of the day until I could figure out what to do with her. I just let her go at the park down the street. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Help booting CTOS/BTOS

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Doc Shipley <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote: > but I don't know where to go from there. comp.sys.unisys? -Frank McConnell

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Classic Computer Spider

by mythtech＠mac.com

>That spider should have been captured and then sent to a lab to test for >chemical immunity. It may have been a new breed of super spider poised to >take over the world! LOL... maybe I'll catch one this summer. I normally leave them alone, they aren't very active. It isn't unusual for one to sit on the same part of the wall for a week or more. And since I am fairly sure it is just a common house spider (looks just like a giant version of the little black jumping spiders that are all over the same stairwell), I never worry about being hurt by one. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Question about DECservers

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I seem to remember someone saying that the DECservers are basically a >Q-Bus PDP-11 system. Is this correct, or am I thinking of something >else? Also, does anyone know what they're based off of and if it's >possible to make them boot a 'conventional' os by changing their >bootroms? The only DECserver I know of based on the Qbus is the DS500, which uses a KDJ11-D (11/53[+]) as the heart of it... with different boot roms Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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9826 hard drive

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

Hi, I have recently purchased an HP 9135A hard disc for use with my HP-87 computer. When I received it I connected it up and did a CAT to see if it could read the disc. I got the following listing which makes me believe that the disc drive was last connected to an HP 9826. I will eventually format the disc, but before I destroy the contents I would like to know if anybody recognizes anything and wants it strongly enough to be worth the trouble of retrieving it. I'll be away until July 21st, so until that date the disc is guarantied to be safe. If I haven't received any email by then, I'll assume that the disc contains no useful information. **vp ---------------------------------------- [ Volume ]: B9826 Name Type Bytes Recs `e ^ 256 21 `e ^ 256 3 `e ^ 256 3 CHEKSITE ^ e 256 36 MAINMENU ^ e 256 49 PLOTPRNT ^ e 256 143 FORMAT ^ e 256 140 RACKSUBS ^ e 256 114 V ^ e 256 51 SYSSUBS ^ e 256 90 COMS ^ e 256 97 SONDEFLT ^ e 256 238 Z ^ e 256 97 UTILNEW ^ e 256 105 PPNEW ^ e 256 131 CHEKNEW ^ e 256 95 MAINNEW ^ e 256 49 UTIL_HP ^ e 256 106 SF11 ^ e 256 1739 CC ^ e 256 66 SUBSLODR ^ e 256 73 NULL 256 112 UTIL ^ e 256 115 SPECANAL ^ e 256 113 NULL 256 237

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Help booting CTOS/BTOS

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. I'm looking for either a boot disk image for a Convergent Technologies B26 (CP-001/9) or some help managing the normal boot sequence. The B26 has a hard disk, and boots perfectly from it. The only problem is that it boots directly into an application (or OS? OZ 4.1?) that requires a login. Which, of course, wasn't taped to the bottom of the keyboard or anything. :) It looks like the thing is willing to boot from floppy first, but it doesn't like me DOS 3.1 or 3.2 boot disk, or anything else I've tried. I'm reasonably sure it's a 720K DSQD drive. I'd like to find a CTOS boot floppy, so I can maybe edit the login files on the hard drive, or help interrupting or altering the boot sequence so I can bypass the login and do it. I have been able to go to a boot menu rather than booting automatically. Holding the spacebar during reset gets to: V 9.2 B,D,L,M,P,T:_ but I don't know where to go from there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Doc

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Yet another DECserver question

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

What DECservers can be used in console mode? IE I telnet to a port on the decserver, and it connects me out a serial port to a VAX? Also required is the ability to send a break (for my sparcstations) Regards, Clint

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Classic Computer Spider

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Yes, they are! I saw a program on spiders a few eeks ago on the Discovery Channel. They mentioned the brown recluse spider, and she is indeed quite dangerous. You hardly notice the bite of this spider, but after a few days you become sick/ill. If not treated well there are serious problems for you. I do not remember if the "problem" is fatal ... - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Barnes [mailto:davebarnes@adelphia.net] > Sent: vrijdag 28 juni 2002 15:09 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Classic Computer Spider > > > and aren't brown recluse spiders VERY dangerous? > > > > > Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > Sellam Ismail wrote: > > > Check out this beauty: > > > > > > http://www.siconic.com/crap/Classic%20Computer%20Spider.jpg > > > > > > She's about 3 inches in diameter. Maybe not the biggest > you've ever seen, > > > but pretty much the biggest that's ever come out of my garage. > > > > > > I found her hiding in the corner of my garage amidst the > last remaining > > > old computer stuffs that are there. I caught her in a > glass, where she > > > spent the rest of the day until I could figure out what > to do with her. > > > > > > I just let her go at the park down the street. > > > > I would have squished it..... looks like a really big brown > recluse to me. > > > > Chad Fernandez > > Michigan, USA

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late spring-cleaning

by oliv555＠arrl.net

A cleanup at my workplace has yielded the following items dumpster-bound. These will be pickup only in the Houston area (near Bush Int'l) and may not be available for very long. Most too large to ship, don't have the time or materials. Best if u can pickup this weekend. Contact me off-list if interested. - 18 Rk05 diskpacks; NOT the 12-sector type used on PDP11, these have 8 slots in the sector ring (PDP8 ?). Don't know what they came off of. - LA-100 printer; desktop, working - DEC paper reader/punch (rack mount) + PC11 controller (unibus) +docs + a Bunch of paper tapes. Long unused, last known working - several DD-11 backplanes (unibus) - Cipher f880 rack mount, front load 1600bpi tape. Working pull from de-comm sys - SGI Iris 1400 + rgb monitor + kb + mouse + docs. Condition ? This is a pedestal style, not a desktop. - 2 RL02's (1 working, 1 not), 6 packs mostly rt11, 1 rsx - 2 inop la36's - misc: df11's, rz23's, 8" hard-sec floppies, .... nick

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