- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by cb＠mythtech.net

>It never made it to CNN or MSNBC. MSNBC's web site also altered a story the other day regarding Osama bin Ladin and Iraq. The first release made mention that bin Ladin was calling his people to kill Hussein. Then, when the US held a press briefing on the same topic, and tried to make it sound as if bin Ladin was in cahoots with Hussein, MSNBC suddenly altered their story, removing the reference. No explination to the change. Could have been an error, could have been an oversite, could have been a request by someone... could have been anything. Point is, the story took a change to reflect the US governments desired position on the topic, and they just pretened it had always been that way. Humm... does Winston Smith work for MSNBC? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Draftmaster II

by pennyfar＠hotmail.com

cctalk(a)classiccmp.org-- I have some experience/documentation on the Draftmaster II, if it would be of any assistance to you. Cheers . . . John <pennyfar(a)hotmail.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Click here for more.

23 years, 2 months

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DEC RC25 Drives

by univac2＠earthlink.net

A few weeks ago, I got a rather nice PDP-11/34 (34A, turnkey front panel) >from a scrap yard. They had two identical systems being used in some sort of electronic testing devices. I only got one system because the other one looked like it had been hit by a forklift a couple times. It wasn't in great shape, so I salvaged some cards from it (CPU, memory, DELUA, drive controller, UNIBUS utility stuff...). My system is in very nice shape though. And along with the CPU, I also got two RC25 drives, along with controllers and cables. I've never seen these before. Can anyone tell me anything about them? They look like nice drives, but I've never really heard much about them. Anyway, this will be my third 11/34. Of the other two, I still have (and very much like) one, and one has been passed on to another list member. Anyway, more questions on recent acquisitions to come shortly, I'm sure. -- Owen Robertson

23 years, 2 months

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Intellivision _made_ PCs...

by bpope＠wordstock.com

This is from the Intellivision newsletter: INTELLIVISION LORE FROM THE FILES OF THE BLUE SKY RANGERS: THE INTV PC-XT COMPUTER Most Intellivision buffs are familiar with the three attempts Mattel Electronics made at producing a home computer: the Intellivision Keyboard Component, the Entertainment Computer System (ECS), and the Aquarius Home Computer System. Less well known is INTV Corp.'s foray into the computer business: the INTV-PC/XT. Sold only through a 1986 brochure to those on the Intellivision catalog mailing list, the computer was touted as "From the makers of Intellivision ...a name you know. We've been around awhile. We manufacture Intellivision, which brought a new standard of quality to home computer games in 1979. The INTV-PC/XT does the same for personal computers today." The brochure featured a half-dozen cartoons by Blue Sky Ranger Keith Robinson (TRON Solar Sailer) of average people using the computer to better their lives. The INTV-PC/XT sold for $999.95 plus $25.00 shipping and handling. It had switchable clock speeds: 4.7 MHz (same as the original IBM-PC) and 8 MHz. It came with 640K RAM, IBM PC-DOS, a monochrome monitor, and two 5.25" floppy disk drives. In reality, the computer was simply another of the nearly identical IBM-compatibles that a dozen generic companies were selling in the mid-1980s. INTV didn't manufacture it, they just put their label on it. The brochure - and the use of "XT" in the name of the computer - were a bit misleading. The brochure claimed that "the INTV-PC/XT is a true IBM-PC/XT compatible." Since the IBM-PC/XT (unlike the IBM-PC) came with a built-in hard drive, it could be inferred that the INTV-PC/XT also came with a hard drive. It didn't. In 1986, over 300,000 people were on the Intellivision mailing list. How many bought an INTV-PC/XT? We don't really know. If any of you out there owned one, we'd love to hear from you! Did you own an INTV-PC/XT? Drop us a line! > newsletter(a)intellivisionlives.com

23 years, 2 months

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test Don't read.

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Test.

23 years, 2 months

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SMD disk interface pinout/specs

by jim＠smithy.com

Does anyone have the specs/pinout for the 60-pin and 26-pin SMD disk drive interface?

23 years, 2 months

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Bernoulli 10+10

by red＠bears.org

Hey, guys. I'm having trouble turning up information on the old Bernoulli 10 MB drives---the ones that used 8" media---that isn't mostly rumor and innuendo. Anybody want to take a stab at positively confirming or denying any or all of the following? 1) The Bernoulli 10+10 uses a custom interface. I need the correct controller card for my PC (or better, my Mac). 2) The Bernoulli 10+10 uses a SASI interface. I still need the correct controller card for my PC (or better, my Mac). 3) The Bernoulli 10+10 will work on any classic SCSI controller. I need the correct cable magic. (Describing the correct cable magic earns bonus points) Thanks ok bear

23 years, 2 months

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pdp-11/35 question...

by aek＠spies.com

Any suggestions on building an 11/35... any other DEC boxes use the same power supply? -- The 11/34 is the most similar to an 11/35

23 years, 2 months

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pdp-11/35 question...

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>>Any suggestions on building an 11/35... any other DEC boxes use the same >>power supply? I've a couple of 11/40 KD11-A backplanes, was >>thinking >>vaguely >I thought the 10.5" version of the 11/35 went into a BA11-K box, with > the >PSU across the back. The same box is used for the 10.5" version >of the 11/05, 11/10, 11/34. You would haev to select the right PSU bricks >for the memory your'e using -- you'd need a 20V regulator if you're fitting >core, for example. Tony, That's the bugger! You just gave me the clue: one of my pdp-15s had the power supply for the XVM-15 memory box robbed before I got it; 'they' wanted to keep it for spares for pdp-11s. (It used the same 'black box' regulator bricks). Getting the -15 running was a higher priority that keeping my 11/35 intact, so I 'sacrificed' the power supply from my 11/35 to power the pdp-15 memory. The remains of the old 11/35 chassis must be lurking in a corner, that's why I couldn't find it. This is good news, it means I'll be able to build a 10.5" 11/35 (which is what I want) out of the chassis of the 11/34 I just bought on ePay... :-) I had no idea if the chassis/PSU was even vaguely similar... memory failing! I will of course pay due attention to the regulators required. Thanks to all who replied Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 2 months

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hardware available

by anheier＠owt.com

More closets clean out. I have the following available: UDS-IS11 PC/ISA SCSI port card Buslogic BT-946C PCI SCSI port card Video card from SPARC 1+ Hard disk, Seagate ST31230N from SPARC 1+ $5 each + shipping or to the scrap yard next week. Thanks Norm

23 years, 2 months

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RDRAM chips to give

by vhall＠infowest.com

I have two RDRAM chips, 128 mgs? ea out of a Dell Dimension 8200 that need a good home. You can re-imburse costs of mailing.

23 years, 2 months

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AT

by JJJACKWHIT＠aol.com

I have an Olivetti M-18P-2 portable (in a carry-around case) which was built by Olivetti before they became involved with AT&T. It has a hard drive (Western Digital), floppy drive and built in 9" monitor (mono). I have the original disks/software (PC-DOS 3.1) and software disks (Wordstar, Calcstar, Spellstar, etc). Is anyone interested in this machine?

23 years, 2 months

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ibm 9332, alpha micro

by david＠bendixqld.com.au

I am looking for a AM 2000 I collect old alpha micro computers. Do you know where I can find 1? David Gage

23 years, 2 months

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Dumpster Diving Goodies

by cb＠mythtech.net

Its amazing what some people throw out. I just got back from a bit of dumpster diving. I pulled from a sizable bin: 2 - HP LJ III (but only one letter size paper tray) HP LJ 4 HP LJ 5L about 25 Meridian phones, and left probably as many behind. I wasn't able to find the KSU so I didn't bother pulling any more phones out. Some various Digital parts and cables consisting of at least: a dot matrix looking printer, a "Remote Services Console Unit" (whatever that is, looks like maybe a terminal switch box), a A/B switch box, looks like maybe for printers. It has a plastic key taped to the top, that I am guessing goes to the actual DEC CPU, but I wasn't able to find that. A keyboard. A whole bunch of cables. Possibly some manuals, maybe other stuff (at times I was just shoveling things into my van without really looking at it) Assorted power, phone, and printer cables Canon Laser Faxmachine 2 - 14" VGA monitors. Royal timeclock Epson FX-256 printer manual (didn't realize I grabbed it, I left the printer behind). 2 Ribbons for the FX-256 1up and 3up tractor feed address labels (a box of each) 2 Platronics Headset bases (but only one headset) A Karioke machine Maybe more stuff... I haven't sorted thru it all yet, I'll probably start that task Monday. Things I left behind (that I saw): Epson FX-256 printer, 3- SilentWriter Faxmachines, Panasonic Electronic Typewriter, Princeton EGA(?) monitor, PS2 keyboard (label said it had bad keys), AT keyboard (I broke it while extricating it, I didn't realize I was standing on it when I pulled on the corner). 25 or more Meridian phones and cables. I wasn't able to find the Meridian KSU, nor the DEC CPU. But they could be down there somewhere, along with who knows what else. It was getting cold, and my flashlight was getting dim. I don't think I will bother going back, so if anyone else is in my area and wants to dig, the dumpster is outside the Gold's Gym behind Paramas Park Mall in Paramus NJ (Actually outside the Weight Watchers, but most people know the building by the Golds Gym. I think Weight Watchers is the one tossing everything judging by the actual garbage that is in the dumpster, but the phones look like too many for them, so they might be from the Remax realestate also in that building, they would also make more sense on the computer equipment). I will probably stop in to Weight Watchers and Remax Monday at lunch and ask if they are the ones tossing the stuff, and if so, if they still have the KSU and the DEC CPU, and if they are tossing them as well. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 2 months

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Wanted: iUP201 modules

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Joe Yes, you are right. It was just a little brain rot on my part. Dwight >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >Dwight, > > Are you sure that you're not thinking of the older UPP-103 EPROM programmer? I know that it uses a 4040 but IIRC I've opened up an iUPP-201 and I THINK it used an 8085. The iUPP-201 looks kind of like a calculator with a keyboard on the right side and a single line LED display above it. On the left side next to the keyboard is large socket for the personality adapter. The personality adapter has the socket for the EPROM or other device to be programmed. The older iUPP-103 looks like a box with a sloping front. It has two EPROM sockets on the right side. The personality is controlled by cards that go inside the box. FWIW I picked up several more iUPP-103s with the massive load of intel stuff that I got just before Christmas. I found some of the cards for them but alas no CPU cards. Need any parts? > > Joe > > > >At 05:24 PM 3/3/03 -0800, Dwight wrote: >>Hi Joe >> When I was back at Intel, I was responsible for the test >>used by the system test on the UPP units. I can tell you a >>little bit about them. >> First, I have no idea what a "upgraded the RAM memory" >>means. These used 4002's. These work on the 4004/4040 >>bus. They are completely incompatable with other types >>of RAM's and they also have input ports on them ( or >>maybe it was output but I think it was inputs ). >>The internal orginization is not compatable with ordinary >>RAM's either( not a simple power of two type addressing ). >> The main controller board has a 4040 uP with some ROM >>( 4001's ). This ROM was addressed as >>bank0. Each of the two slots for the personality cards >>was addressed as Bank0 for slot 0 and Bank1 for slot 1. >>This way, personality code could be accessed on either >>bank to run the particular operation. The code on the >>controller board ran the handshake with the parallel >>port to the Intelec system. >> I wish that I'd saved the schematics I'd had at Intel >>but I was not as smart then. I'd also made a board that >>I'd plugged into a Intelec system in place of the 4040. >>It allowed me to test the hardware and compare ROM code >>to make sure every thing was correct. This is also long >>gone. >> I once even had the ROM code for these. >>Dwight >> >> >>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >>> >>>Hi Robert, >>> >>> Do you have any info on the internal hardware for the 201? I have one >>that's dead. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>>At 12:01 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >>>>Just resurrected my Intel iUP201 Universal Programmer, >>>>and am writing the control software for it (which will be >>>>available for free). >>>> >>>>I'm wondering if anyone out there has any modules for it >>>>that they want to get rid of? I currently have the >>>>2708/2716/2732...27128 module and the 27128/27256 module. >>>>I've also upgraded the RAM memory on the programmer. >>>> >>>>I'm in Ottawa/Ontario/Canada, but will pay shipping worldwide. >>>>These things are pretty light. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>-RK >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! >>>>Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. >>>>Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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Wanted: iUP201 modules

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Joe When I was back at Intel, I was responsible for the test used by the system test on the UPP units. I can tell you a little bit about them. First, I have no idea what a "upgraded the RAM memory" means. These used 4002's. These work on the 4004/4040 bus. They are completely incompatable with other types of RAM's and they also have input ports on them ( or maybe it was output but I think it was inputs ). The internal orginization is not compatable with ordinary RAM's either( not a simple power of two type addressing ). The main controller board has a 4040 uP with some ROM ( 4001's ). This ROM was addressed as bank0. Each of the two slots for the personality cards was addressed as Bank0 for slot 0 and Bank1 for slot 1. This way, personality code could be accessed on either bank to run the particular operation. The code on the controller board ran the handshake with the parallel port to the Intelec system. I wish that I'd saved the schematics I'd had at Intel but I was not as smart then. I'd also made a board that I'd plugged into a Intelec system in place of the 4040. It allowed me to test the hardware and compare ROM code to make sure every thing was correct. This is also long gone. I once even had the ROM code for these. Dwight >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >Hi Robert, > > Do you have any info on the internal hardware for the 201? I have one that's dead. > > Joe > > > >At 12:01 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >>Just resurrected my Intel iUP201 Universal Programmer, >>and am writing the control software for it (which will be >>available for free). >> >>I'm wondering if anyone out there has any modules for it >>that they want to get rid of? I currently have the >>2708/2716/2732...27128 module and the 27128/27256 module. >>I've also upgraded the RAM memory on the programmer. >> >>I'm in Ottawa/Ontario/Canada, but will pay shipping worldwide. >>These things are pretty light. >> >>Thanks, >>-RK >> >>-- >>Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! >>Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. >>Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

23 years, 2 months

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SMD disk interface pinout/specs

by aek＠spies.com

.Does anyone have the specs/pinout for the 60-pin and 26-pin SMD disk drive interface? -- I have it scanned, i'll see about getting it pdf'ed and up at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/cdc

23 years, 2 months

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Wanted: iUP201 modules

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Dave Oops, This was after my time there. Thanks for correcting me. Dwight >From: "Dave Mabry" <dmabry(a)mich.com> > >Dwight and all, > >The UPP was the 4040-based eprom programmer. Joe and Robert are talking >about the iUP-201. It's been a long time, but I also upgraded the >memory on mine. I doubled it. I think from Intel it could have either >of two sizes of ram chips populating it. Probably a jumper or such to >change it from the smaller chips to the larger ones. Sorry to be vague >about it, but I seem to only be able to remember bits and pieces of that >life. Just ask Joe! ;-) > > > >Dwight K. Elvey wrote: >> Hi Joe >> When I was back at Intel, I was responsible for the test >> used by the system test on the UPP units. I can tell you a >> little bit about them. >> First, I have no idea what a "upgraded the RAM memory" >> means. These used 4002's. These work on the 4004/4040 >> bus. They are completely incompatable with other types >> of RAM's and they also have input ports on them ( or >> maybe it was output but I think it was inputs ). >> The internal orginization is not compatable with ordinary >> RAM's either( not a simple power of two type addressing ). >> The main controller board has a 4040 uP with some ROM >> ( 4001's ). This ROM was addressed as >> bank0. Each of the two slots for the personality cards >> was addressed as Bank0 for slot 0 and Bank1 for slot 1. >> This way, personality code could be accessed on either >> bank to run the particular operation. The code on the >> controller board ran the handshake with the parallel >> port to the Intelec system. >> I wish that I'd saved the schematics I'd had at Intel >> but I was not as smart then. I'd also made a board that >> I'd plugged into a Intelec system in place of the 4040. >> It allowed me to test the hardware and compare ROM code >> to make sure every thing was correct. This is also long >> gone. >> I once even had the ROM code for these. >> Dwight >> >> >> >>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >>> >>>Hi Robert, >>> >>> Do you have any info on the internal hardware for the 201? I have one >> >> that's dead. >> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>>At 12:01 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>>>Just resurrected my Intel iUP201 Universal Programmer, >>>>and am writing the control software for it (which will be >>>>available for free). >>>> >>>>I'm wondering if anyone out there has any modules for it >>>>that they want to get rid of? I currently have the >>>>2708/2716/2732...27128 module and the 27128/27256 module. >>>>I've also upgraded the RAM memory on the programmer. >>>> >>>>I'm in Ottawa/Ontario/Canada, but will pay shipping worldwide. >>>>These things are pretty light. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>-RK >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! >>>>Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. >>>>Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com >>> >> >> . >> > > >-- >Dave Mabry dmabry(a)mich.com >Dossin Museum Underwater Research Team >NACD #2093

23 years, 2 months

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VAX 4000-90A on epay...

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

This came in on another list this afternoon... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3404544601&category=1486 Per the seller, it `is FULL of ram', but I can't tell if it's the 4MB or 16MB SIMMs. No relation to seller, YMMV, IANAL, etc., etc., etc. Bob

23 years, 2 months

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making disk images

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Use Norton/Symantec's "Ghost." It practically copies anything to disk and back again. Once you've ghosted it to disk, its browsable under Windoze, and, as long as you don't change ANYTHING using any Windoze utilities, you should be able to Ghost it back to a working drive for your lagacy system. Cheers! Ed San Antonio, Tx, USA -----Original Message----- From: Doc Shipley [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:56 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: making disk images On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Robert F. Schaefer wrote: > Anyone know of an easy to make and restore disk images on peasea hardware? > I've got a few on-topic boxes that I want to use for projects, but I also > don't want to blow away the existing software as some of it is interesting > and hard-to-replace. Bonus points if the image is browsable after moving > but it must be able to restore to an identical state from basically the bare > metal. What I'm thinking of is a NetBSD boot disk with enough software in > the ramdisk to dd an image onto and off of an NFS mount, but before I start > in on it I was wondering if anyone else had a solution. Tom's Root/Boot Disk http://www.toms.net/rb Doc

23 years, 2 months

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Looking for a 486 system...

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

I'm surprised it didn't occur to me earlier to ask what I'm about to on the list. ;-) Fellow classic'ers, I have a very specific set of old radio service software packages that require running. Since they were written back when the 386 was still in the "Ooooh, Ahhhh!" phase, and discontinued soon after, they won't run reliably (if at all) on anything newer than a 486. Here's what I'd like to find. A small tower-style 486, mini or mid, with PS/2 type ports for keyboard and mouse built in. Speed-wise, it should be in the DX33 or DX2/66 class. It should have switchable "Turbo/Non-Turbo" mode, either from a front-panel switch or from a keypress combination. Finally, it needs to have at least two PCI slots in addition to the usual ISA or EISA. I also have a need to dual-boot such a box into Windows 95 to do some instrument control applications. As you might imagine, finding a system that straddles this odd middle ground is not easy. It is my understanding that both Compaq and Dell made systems that were very close to, if not exactly, what I'm describing. Pentium systems, even the earliest ones, will NOT work in this application. It's gotta be a 486. ALTERNATIVE: If someone can find me a late-issue National Instruments MicroChannel GPIB card, I can put the PS/2 tower I have here into the application, and it should do just fine. Please let me know if you have something that's at least close, and some idea on price or trade. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 2 months

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pdp-11/35 question...

by mross666＠hotmail.com

I was sure I had an 11/35 somewhere, but I can't find the damn thing anyplace(1)... I may have to build one (I was sure I had one because I have an 11/35 front panel, which I seemed to recall detaching 'for safe keeping'). Can anyone tell me the number of the power supply used in the 10 1/2" 11/35 rackmount box? Seem to recall it ran along the side, like a pdp-8e, not at the end, like an 11/20? Any suggestions on building an 11/35... any other DEC boxes use the same power supply? I've a couple of 11/40 KD11-A backplanes, was thinking vaguely of mounting one, along with the front panel, in some other DEC box... (since 11/35 meets the definition of 'fastest blinkenlights pdp-11 that can be built in a 10 1/2" rackmount chassis'). Cheers Mike http://www.corestore.org (1) being able to 'loose' an 11/35 could well be the definition of 'having too many computers'!!! _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 2 months

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Looking for parts for an HP 9821A desktop calculator

by swperk＠earthlink.net

Hello, I recently acquired an old HP 9821A desktop calculator. It's in good shape cosmetically, but it has apparently had previously donated some of its internal cards to an unknown cause. Specifically, it seems to be missing three of the four CPU cards, and two of the three RAM cards. A quick search of some sources suggests that some or all of the CPU cards are identical to those in the 9810A and possibly the 9830A. I don't know about the RAM cards, though. Obviously, the CPU and RAM cards from a 9820A would be an exact replacement. Any help in getting this classic beast running again will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Stan

23 years, 2 months

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scrappers

by classiccmp.org＠irrelevant.fsnet.co.uk

Just in case anybody is in Manchester, UK, with a little bit more front than me, and wants to investigate, I noticed while visiting a customer nearby today that a scrap metal dealer in the Vaughn Industrial Estate, Gorton, Manchester (100 yards from Ashburys station) was unloading a wagon with pallet after pallet load of what looked like a 14" monitors and Wyse serial terminals. From a quick look into their warehouse, they had various other interesting pallets stacked up..

23 years, 2 months

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Help with H8 Parts

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today while at the warehouse I located my H8 and was shocked to find that 4 of the buttons were broken off the entry pad. Can anyone give me a lead on were I can purchase a new or used pad? Also found the Floppy disk system ( 3 FD drives) and the H9 Video Terminal for it.

23 years, 2 months

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Commodore Amiga 2000HD in Michigan

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a fellow with an Amiga 2000HD in Michigan. Please contact him directly if interested. Reply-to: fearfactor(a)chartermi.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:23:54 -0500 From: fearfactor <fearfactor(a)chartermi.net> Subject: commadore Amiga i got a complrete commadore amiga 2000HD system. ya guys prob dont want it but i thought i would check. also a commadore (64ithink) 5" floppy drive i can provide pics upon request. -dave -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 2 months

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InfoServer and MOP Server status update

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hey Fred, On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Fred deBros wrote: > Did u get any further in your search? No.. I am currently trying to finish the new MOP Server project, so thats (a) out of my way, and (b) available to people on the list. Basically, the usual loose ends such as portability and operation testing, and finishing the docs on it. The InfoServer project will complement the above, in that it will give us the ability to also net-boot VMS off any given install host. Basically, the InfoServer client uses MOP to kickstart things, and then uses LAST (aka LAD, aka LASTdisk) to do the rest of the disk I/O. Basically, I'd like to have an InfoServer running here, even if only for fun. I also need it to reverse-engineer the LAST protocol, since nobody seems to have a copy of its specification anymore. So, given the fact that an InfoServer (150, 1000) is just a regular 3100-model machine, I should be able to load the friggin software onto one, right? Anyone? Help! The Question: Given a regular MV3100-model box, and a working CDROM drive on it, HOW does one load the InfoServer stuff onto it, making it an operational InfoServer ? Cheers, Fred

23 years, 2 months

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Calcomp incremental plotter

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > >--- David Gesswein <djg(a)drs-esg.com> wrote: >> I just got a Calcomp 563 incremental plotter. > >Is that powder blue, kind of an A-Frame design? I had to pass on one >a few years ago because I could _not_ fit it into a full-sized cargo >van - it was 2" too tall at the frame. > Similar >The Calcomp Plotter I saw had a permanently affixed sprocketed mylar loop >that you taped drafting paper down to. Perhaps you could find/make that? > >Maybe we are not talking about the same device. You have pictures? > That idea might work but making the loop will be some work. Haven't had any luck on finding paper yet. Do now. http://www.pdp8.net/563/563.shtml

23 years, 2 months

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Moving a VAX 6000

by jss＠subatomix.com

I just got a VAX 6000. More details on the system itself will come later. Right now, I need to move it the short distance from its warehouse it my garage. I will probably do this tomorrow. I want to run my logistics plan by the list and see if there are any problems. Basically, my idea is to borrow my parents' utility trailer, throw an old mattress (which I have) in it, lay the VAX on its side on top of the mattress, and tie down. 3.5 miles later, we'll slide the VAX off and push it upright. Repeat the process to get the other cabinet. My only concern ATM is laying the VAX on its side. That won't damage the enclosure, will it? -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 2 months

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HP 3000 922LX in Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Deskside size cabinet, I haven't looked inside. Mike m m c f a d d e n @ c m h . e d u

23 years, 2 months

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HP 2100A hardware reference docs?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

I looked around at http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/hp/ and found most of the hardware docs I would want for my 2113E and 2117F, but didn't really see any hardware reference docs for a 2100A CPU. I also didn't find any 2100A hardware docs at http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/2100/ Anywhere else I should look for docs online? >I love these boxes, but then, I'm biased. Think most of the docs are up on >Al's website. If there's something you can't find feel free to drop me a >line. > >Jay West _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 2 months

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Looking for a 486 system...

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Fellow classic'ers, I have a very specific set of old radio service >software packages that require running. Since they were written back when >the 386 was still in the "Ooooh, Ahhhh!" phase, and discontinued soon >after, they won't run reliably (if at all) on anything newer than a 486. I have some friends that make the same claim. That they have radio/scanner programming software that will NOT work on anything newer than a 386. I'm curious... WHY? What happens at the faster speeds that makes it useless? I've tried asking my friends, but they are clueless on these matters (and actually, all except one had no idea, they were making the claim simply because they were told that was the case... only one claims to have actually tried it). Is it something that is solveable by running some kind of speed killing software (I had an app that did that. I used it to play old DOS games on newer Pentium machines. The graphics ran so fast that the games were unplayable, so I ran this processor stealing software and it slows the machine down by the % you tell it to). > Here's what I'd like to find. A small tower-style 486, mini or mid, with >PS/2 type ports for keyboard and mouse built in. Speed-wise, it should be >in the DX33 or DX2/66 class. It should have switchable "Turbo/Non-Turbo" >mode, either from a front-panel switch or from a keypress combination. >Finally, it needs to have at least two PCI slots in addition to the usual >ISA or EISA. Ugh.... should have asked a few months ago. I just junked scores of 486's. I'm sure one of them probably fit your bill (or at least came close). I have some more coming up to be scrapped, so I'll keep an eye out. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 2 months

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Wang OIS web pages

by jim＠smithy.com

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:27:27 -0800 >At 06:34 PM 3/2/03 -0500, you wrote: >>I have put up a set of pages on the Wang OIS System.Currently, it can run most of the OS utilities, program development, and >>Wang Word Processing. I have tested it with Red Hat Linux 7.2 and 7.3. >>The pages are located at http://www.cass.net/~jdonoghu > >That is excellent, Jim! > >Is there any chance of talking you to convert your emulator to use >wxWindows ( http://www.wxwindows.org )? It is a cross-platform GUI and >system toolkit. It is quite well done, and would allow running your >emulator on a much larger range of platforms (PC, linux/unix, Mac, OS/2, >...) It is rather well done, has a very active developer community, and >uses the native look & feel of the targeted GUI (it will look like a GTK >app if that is what you link to, or a Motif app, or Win32, or XP, OS X, etc.) > I have considered this, but I've never done any Windows programming, and I'm using UNIX IPC to communicate between processes. The emulator consists of a Master process that represents the master CPU unit, and one or more Slave processes (each their own Z80 emulator) that represent the workstations. You can have up to four active Slave processes attached to the master (it gets slower the more slaves you run.).

23 years, 2 months

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Ebay - Neat PLATO system (AOL before AOL)

by cbajpai＠attbi.com

This is pretty neat.A Plato terminal. I never knew a on-line community existed before Lee Feldstein's Community Memory project.In hindsight it looks like he was trying to copy Plato. A Description: Welcome to PLATO. The PLATO system, started way back in 1960, was developed as a technological solution to delivering individualized instruction, in thousands of subjects from algebra to zoology, to students in schools and universities across the nation. As the system grew and evolved, it became, pretty much by accident, the first major online community, in the current sense of the term. In the early 1970s, people lucky enough to be exposed to the system discovered it offered a radically new way of understanding what computers could be used for: computers weren't just about number-crunching (and delivering individualized instruction), they were about people connecting with people. For many PLATO people who came across PLATO in the 1970s, this was a mind-blowing concept http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3404078052&category= 4193> &item=3404078052&category=4193

23 years, 2 months

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making disk images

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/2/2003 11:36:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, jhfinepw4z(a)compsys.to writes: > For drives with any file structure, Ghost V7.0 can make an exact > copy of the drive and restore every block in the exact same location. > With SCSI drives or drives where the controller does the bad block > mapping, this allows the image to be restored on the same size or > larger drive. When the bad blocks are handled by the OS, then > the restore must be done on the identical drive if you did not start > with a Windows/DOS file structure. > > Sincerely yours, > This is probably true for only FATxx,and NTFS partitions though. I don't think HPFS is supported anymore, unfortunately. I know on earlier versions, the image source and target must be the same size. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 2 months

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Wang OIS web pages

by jim＠smithy.com

I have put up a set of pages on the Wang OIS System. The OIS is a minicomputer system based on the Zilog Z80 processor. It was made from 1979 until around 1990. I also have an OIS emulator in development. Currently, it can run most of the OS utilities, program development, and Wang Word Processing. I have tested it with Red Hat Linux 7.2 and 7.3. The pages are located at http://www.cass.net/~jdonoghu

23 years, 2 months

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Free Dynalogic

by rborsuk＠colourfull.com

Hi All, I have a free dynalogic KDM-900 to a good home. Just pay shipping and it's yours. It was part of my dynalogic system. This is the only part I have left and I hate tossing. If you want to see it , please go to: http://idisk.mac.com/colourfull_creations/Public/ads/kdm.jpg Thanks Rob

23 years, 2 months

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WD1002s-shd

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found this a few days ago. I think it's a SASI to ST-412 bridge board. Does anyone have more information on it? It has a 50 pin ribbaon cable header on one end. The other end has a 34 pin card edge connector, nearby are two 20 pn ribbon cable headers and a 4 pin molex power cable connector. Anyone have a manual for it? Joe

23 years, 2 months

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Another variation on the Nigerian Oil SCAM! Remained Blessed in the lord!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

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23 years, 2 months

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HP 2109B on eBay

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Shocking, isn't it? I get a HP, and suddenly I'm looking all over eBay for them.... Anyway, see here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3403922546&category=12… Not sure if "jeffruss" (current high-bidder) is on this list or not. Anyhow, just a heads-up in case any of you were interested. -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

23 years, 2 months

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Classic SF Bay Area places to visit

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I have a business trip out to the Bay Area next week (and then on to Los Angeles). I will probably have a few hours to kill up in the Bay Area. What are your recommentations for places to visit, including places for surplus equipment? Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. First Vice President Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

23 years, 2 months

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TRS-80 Question

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I can't find the message from the person from the Philadelphia area that spoke about running a recycling service with some old equipment to get rid of... You wouldn't have any TRS-80 Equipment would you? This whole Model IV thread has got me interested in getting a working unit again. Contact me off list if you do. I would also be interested in any Atari ST or Amiga Equipment as well.. Regards, Al

23 years, 2 months

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Looking for a 486 system

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Very interesting reading, I also have a few 8088 games the will not run on todays machines,mostly due the the hardcoded timeing loops. one would think that by now someone would write a cpu slowdown pgm that does not affect the hardcoded graphics code - like all the current ones do. i have most of the ge numalogic "pc loader" for the pc900 - pc1100 and the pc based programer for ge series 6 model 60 plc's. i also have to use a 486 and lower on the plc and motorola radio programming software. the reason that these programs will not run on a faster then 486 (some only run releably on a 286) is that the cpu speed runs the coded loops too fast. that results in the pgm trying to read/write to the device (radio or plc) faster then the programs i/o instructions can respond. i have had no trouble useing high speed serial ports with the newer uart's. the slowdown programs "time wasting cpu loop" does slow down the program run, but the loop chops up the i/o also and the devices always want 100% of the i/o ports attenation - which results in the i/o loop being droped and/or the program hanging or looping. the problem could be a good one though, at least we do have a use for the 8088's to 486's ;) Bill Message: 30 From: "TeoZ" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Looking for a 486 system... Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:00:32 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Those packages have the same problems as older dos games. http://www.oldskool.org/pc/help/oldonnew/ "The second advantage is a natural resistance to obscure programming techniques, like self-modifying code. The 80386 doesn't have an internal cache like the 486 and higher, so most self-modifying code works as good as it did on the original 8088." I found alot of install routines written when the 386 was around would cause errors on faster machines because they hard coded timer loops for user input. Since the PLC software uses the comm ports and they are most likely buffered newer computers feed the data too fast for the serial port. One thing to try on faster machines is to disable internal and external cache in the system bios, then hit the turbo button to slow the processor down to 8mhz (if possible) If you really need a 386 motherboards with chip and memory can be found on ebay really cheap, but are not too common. Buying an old 386 from ebay isn't worth it because of the shipping costs of the heavy boat anchors, but motherboards are cheap. Getting a case from a local thrift store to run it in wouldn't be too expensive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Rice" <jrice54(a)charter.net> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Looking for a 486 system... > When I was working in process controls, we had PLC programming software > from two different companies that would only run on certain processors. > The original SLC-500 series software from Allen-Bradley would not run on > a 486, but would scream on a 286 or 386. As soon as you tried to run it > on a 486 or higher, instant crash, taking DOS totally down to the point > only pushing the reset would reboot it. The PLC-2 series from ICOM > would run on 8088-Pentiums, but faster than a 286 and the comm port > control routines refused to communicate with the system making it > totally useless. There was a MMI package we used, the names elludes me > (it's early) that wouldn't run if installed on a hard drive over 240mb. > It had a space checking routine that couldn't handle hard drives over > 240mb, or a processor over a 486DX25. It would crash if either the > drive was too large or if the system was too fast. All of this software > was still current in 1994-98. > > As far as finding an older system, except for the 386 that is kind of a > museum piece, we scrapped eveything below 1ghz a couple of months ago.

23 years, 2 months

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DEC GIGAswitch on epay (Irvine, CA)...

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Saw this on another list I'm subbed to... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3403896676&category=3706 >Operational DEC GIGAswitch/FDDI Loaded with line cards and operational >Several MIC Fddi Cables Also > >DEC GIGAswitch/ATM > with a buy-it-now of $0.01(US). The catch: >You have to Arrange Shipping....... and pay for it... >

23 years, 2 months

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PLATO terminal on eBay

by grg2＠attbi.com

Er, Um, well, it's at least partially true that it's a PLATO terminal. It looks like a CDC 7xx "Viking" terminal. IIRC it was your basic serial RS-232 ASCII terminal, with some escape codes that could put it into "PLATO" mode, which had its own proprietary character and graphics command codes. At least some of these had what many think is the worst keyboard ever designed, with very heavy springs plus lots of friction on every key and no click orfeedback whether you'd pressed the key far enough to register. Felt like you were pressing onto cookie dough. Not much you can do with the PLATO aspects of the terminal, unless you get a CDC Cyber simulator going, plus a PLATO binary, plus a multiplexer emulator... Regards, George

23 years, 2 months

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Dumpster Diving Goodies

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Says `Anti-static' on it? Yup -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 2 months

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TRS-80 Question

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> From: Kevin Monceaux <OwnedByDogs(a)grandecom.net> > > The thread has inspired me to pull my Model IV out > of the closet and fire it up. Still works great. > Some of the keys on the keyboard are a bit > stubborn. Anyone have any tips for negotiating > with the Model IV keyboard. I've never tried > taking it apart. > > Kevin It's an epidemic!!! *Grin!* I can't say for sure this will work, but what I used to do on Model I keyboards is to pop the tops off the keyboard, blast them with a little compressed air, and then a little bit of TV Tuner Cleaner. IF, the Model IV keyboard is one you can do that with. If this keyboard has sealed keys, and you can't see the contacts, you might just have dust and crud under the keys. Again, popping the keys and hitting them with a little bit of alcohol should help that. Check whatever cleaning solution you use to make sure it doesn't eat plastic. Good luck, and enjoy!!!! Regards, Al

23 years, 2 months

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Dumpster Diving Goodies

by cb＠mythtech.net

> The key taped on top lets the VAX be switched from the VT to the >modem, thus allowing DEC access to the computer. What color is the key? Kind of grey. It looks like a tube lock type key, but there is nothing in the center. So the whole key seems to just be the one little pin sticking out from it. Obviously not meant for security, but more to prevent accidental turning of the "lock". And it came untaped from the top in transport, so now the key is loose in a box with all the cables. I didn't notice anything I grabbed that looked like it could use the key. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 2 months

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resurrecting a PDP-11/10

by iamvirtual＠hotmail.com

Thanks for the assistance to date! Actually, I have a second M7800 card installed on the PDP-11/10 machine. I was having so much difficulty with getting a 20mA terminal (LA36-DP - OEM of an LA36) to work, I just about disabled the console SLC and reconfigured the the M7800 to work as the console! I also have M780 spares if I need them. (If anyone knows anything about the dip switches on the DataSouth Printer board in the LA-36DP P/n 5120000-1, I would be most grateful!) As far as memory, there are two 16kw core systems installed on this machine. I also have lots of paper tapes (mostly diagnostics, but also Fortran compiler), and 9-track tapes. I am needing to know what I am looking for to get RT-11 running. What did DEC call their install tapes? eg. Is the "RT-11 V03B BIN MT9 1/2" tape the boot/install tape? Is RT-11 the easiest O/S to get installed? I want to get to a point where I can verify the hardware is all running. As far as media devices, I have 3 x RK05, 1 x TS03, 2 x RX01, 1 x TU58. I am trying to decide what will be moved to the PDP-11/10 from the 11/20. The goal is to have the PDP-11/20 up and running. Getting the PDP-11/10 is just a step along the way. Where is this VTServer people had mentioned? I don't recall this item. Thanks. --barryM >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: resurrecting a PDP-11/10 >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:14:12 -0800 (PST) > >--- pavl <pzachary(a)sasquatch.com> wrote: > > I would strongly recommend using TU58.exe on a host pc to emulate a > > serial tape drive on your second serial port (you DO have a second slu?) > >On a machine that old? Unlikely. Machines of the era before the DZ-11, >and especially machines that were not destined for timesharing, tended >to have few serial ports, - a console and probably nothing else. It was >a boon that a low-end Qbus machine commonly came with a DLV11J with a >port for the console, a port for a TU58 and two more ports for DECwriters >or machine-to-machine communication or whatever. > >It's easy enough to _add_ a second SLU card, (DL-11something), _if_ >you have one lying around (which I expect he doesn't). > > > to boot RT11 off virtual tape so you can poke around and build a system > > from there. > >As a place to put RT-11, a virtual TU58 isn't a bad idea. Hopefully >wharever emulator you have can emulate both units - the TU58 is kinda >small, even compared with 8" floppies. > > > VTserver is really amazingly great, but you may not have enough ram and > > booting RT or XXDP from a slu will give you better diagnostics to assess > > your RK05,etc > >How much RAM does VTserver require? Older versions of RT-11 (those >contemporary with the 11/10) are usable at aroun 8KW, IIRC. Of course >the full 28KW is nice, especially if you want to run large apps like >ADVENT, but the CUSPS should all run with minimal RAM. > >-ethan _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 2 months

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RX02 faceplate

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Someone recently asked about an RX02 faceplate... if that person is still looking, please contact me... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | | | | "this space | (s/ at /@/) | | unavoidably left blank" | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 2 months

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ASR-32 Usable as Terminal?

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

Jeffrey: I made a board a couple of years ago that provided a current loop interface and a pic for ascii/baudot and speed conversion. I am in the process of a second-gen of that board. It will let you use a baudot machine to interface to a 232 port in ascii. If you get the 32, let me know; but don't pay too much. On the plus side, even if you don't want the 32 down the road, you can find a 33 in ratty cosmetic condition and swap the guts, since the 32 looks like it has a case and stand in very good condition (not easy to find good cosmetics). gil >Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 22:32:58 -0600 >From: >To: ClassicCmp Lists <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: ASR-32 Usable as Terminal? >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3010656618 > >I just realized, *after* bidding, that this TTY on eBay is a 32, not a 33. >Oops. Since it uses baudot code instead of ASCII and has a rotary dialer on >its CCU, is it useless as a terminal for a PDP-11? What would be required to >make it useful for a terminal? > >I'm thinking that I should cancel my bid. I want a TTY solely to have a >period terminal for my PDP-11/20. :-/ > >Yes, I have read the following in the "vital poop" thread: > >> Before you spend big bucks on ebay >> ---------------------------------- >> A Model 33 has a four-row keyboard (not including the space bar). >> A Model 32 has a three-row keyboard (not including the space bar). >> The 33 is ascii, and the 32 is baudot. >> You cannot (prctically) modify a 32 into a 33. > >-- >Jeffrey Sharp ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

23 years, 2 months

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Just for the sake of asking... (was - RE: Trivia Question)

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Gee! You musta worked at the same place, or one very like it. :) Ever seen any of those old parts floating around? Cheers! Ed San Antonio, Tx, USA -----Original Message----- From: Eric Smith [mailto:eric@brouhaha.com] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:09 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Just for the sake of asking... (was - RE: Trivia Question) Edward Tillman writes: > It that a "real computer?" Of course it was! But they didn't so much have light pens as "light guns", right? And I can't think of too many other computers that had ashtrays built into the consoles.

23 years, 2 months

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Calcomp incremental plotter

by djg＠drs-esg.com

I just got a Calcomp 563 incremental plotter. Does anybody have a manual that I could get a copy of or at least know the pinout of the connector and what the mate is (round multipin). Also does anybody know where I can get supplies such at the 30" sprocket feed paper rolls (still doing a web search but only found 36" so far) and the pen. The pen looks like a short ballpoint cartridge so hopefully I can cut a normal one down if I can't find an identical one. Thanks, David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.

23 years, 2 months

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DEC Server 300

by cb＠mythtech.net

>A DECserver 300 is about 19"x12"x4.5", weighs 10-15 lbs (guessing), and has >16 MMJ's (modified modular jack), an AUI (thickwire Ethernet), and a >10Base5 (coax Ethernet) connection on the rear. Mine has a "tabletop" >plastic shell on it with rubber feet under it, although many of these were >sold without the case and were rack mounted. My unit has a beige-ish plastic >shell over a gray metal box. Units without the plastic shell with be gray >and "gold" alodyne finished" aluminum. Ok, then I'm pretty sure it isn't in the dumpster. Something of this size/appearance would have caught my eye. If it had been along the lines of a PC desktop or tower case, I could see that I might have over looked it, but anything rack mount I think I would have noticed. But I think I may take another swing by tomorrow during the day. The place should be closed since Paramus has annoying Blue Laws and nothing is allowed to be open on a Sunday. So that should give me some daylight and peace to dig some more. >Please PLEASE keep the book - I am sure someone will want it as they are >MUCH harder to locate than the device itself! I would ask for it but I >already have both the DECserver and a manual. I don't think it is a complete manual. There are two, both still shrinkwrapped, but they are more like a booklet then a manual. Pretty small. I don't recall what exactly they said on them. I plan to sort thru the stuff Monday. There may be other manuals that I missed. There is TONS of junk paperwork in the dumpster, so locating manuals would be a chore. If it doesn't pretty much land in your hand, it is unlikely to be spotted. There is one person on the list who has right of first refusal on the DEC stuff. Once he has taken what he wants, if there is anything left, I'll offer it up to the list. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ASR-32 Usable as Terminal?

by jss＠subatomix.com

George R. Gonzalez wrote: > I'm in a bit of an embarrasing situation-- after getting this nice Model > 32 WU tty, tsting it out, finding out it works perfectly, I finally > realize -- I don't have any space for it! ... So I've reluctantly put it > up for auction on eBay. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3010656618 I just realized, *after* bidding, that this TTY on eBay is a 32, not a 33. Oops. Since it uses baudot code instead of ASCII and has a rotary dialer on its CCU, is it useless as a terminal for a PDP-11? What would be required to make it useful for a terminal? I'm thinking that I should cancel my bid. I want a TTY solely to have a period terminal for my PDP-11/20. :-/ Yes, I have read the following in the "vital poop" thread: > Before you spend big bucks on ebay > ---------------------------------- > A Model 33 has a four-row keyboard (not including the space bar). > A Model 32 has a three-row keyboard (not including the space bar). > The 33 is ascii, and the 32 is baudot. > You cannot (prctically) modify a 32 into a 33. -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 2 months

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Sellam on Tech tv (again)

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Great show Sellam, I was really drooling over that apple 1 in the wooden case! hope to see more classic computers from your collection on tech tv. BTW any more info or updates an that very rare fps mini? Bill

23 years, 2 months

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Sellam on TeeVee

by jpl15＠panix.com

Yo Sellam: good job on Screensavers this afternoon! A nice look at one of the last Apple 1s.... Cheerz John

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PDP-8/L: multiple failed 7440's date code 7005

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

I have been busy debugging my PDP-8/L that last worked when stored in the barn around 1995. It is slowly coming back to life - still having problems with the core memory. I have noted one strange and recurrent problem. So far I have changed nine bad 7440's on a variety of modules, mostly core drivers (G221, G228) which have had their outputs stuck, usually high. All of them were labeled "DEC7440" with a date code of 7005! Currently lower page locations won't write the lower bits 5-11 (or at least return zeroes). The only common denominator for data bits 5-11 are at slot A09, where the MEM ENABLE 5-11 and MA ENABLE 5-11 lines are driven by, you guessed it, M617's featuring 7440's. Haven't verified this yet but it's a safe bet where at least some of the problem is! Has anyone else experienced this problem? Seems like the chip manufacturer must have had a few specks of dust in the fab room that day in Apr. 1970... -Charles

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LK250 Keyboard available

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

I'm pretty sure it's a LK250, this is a Dec Keyboard for PC's I've used it on AT class machines, but it's been gathering dust for a few years. (think LK201 for PeeCee) asking $30 plus S&H OBO (make me an offer, It can't hurt to ask)

23 years, 2 months

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NEXT Keyboard question

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

A friend has a slab but is missing the keyboard. Will a MAC keyboard also work? Does anyone have the pinout to let him rebuild one?

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Free DEC MINC-11 in NW England

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> I'm on it - I'm maybe 2 hours away from there so I can pick up, assuming a) > I can get it in the garage and b) my girlfriend doesn't kill me :) I'll send flowers. 8^)= Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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An H89 issue

by MBuhler＠itt-tech.edu

Hi Tom, I found you after a google search. I used to have several working H89s but I got rid of all them. Now I've found 5 H89 floppies which I think contain good information but of course I can't read them any longer. I live in Grand Rapids Michigan and would drive a couple of hours to visit someone who owns a working H89 just to find out what is on those floppies. Do you know of anyone who could help me? Max Buhler: mbuhler(a)itt-tech.edu

23 years, 2 months

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More PDP-8/L repair fun (bits won't read/write)

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

Some of my bits not setting turned out to be bad parts on the front panel! 15 years ago I installed LEDs/resistors in place of all the (mostly burned out) incandescent lamps. One had a cracked composition resistor, and the other an open (base-emitter) driver transistor. As I posted earlier, the problem with the core not reading/writing bits 5-11 was indeed the MEM ENABLE signal from the M617 in slot A09. But the 7440 was good for a change (not one of the bad batch with 7005 date code). Turns out the wire from that pin on the backplane was installed too tightly at the factory and had shorted through the insulation to a ground pin. Now the core works, and CPU executes various test programs; SR, AC, MB, MA all working fine... EXCEPT it won't read/write on any of the 128 bytes of page 0! Going to try to figure that one out tonight... Another strange find - the PROTECT key did not, in fact, protect the upper page (7600-7777) of core. I found a factory-appearing wire on the backplane, jumpering the output of an inverter directly to ground! Some idiot probably was bothered by noise giving false PROT errors or couldn't figure out that the switch is off when in the down position, and just shorted the signal out. Now that works, too. Didn't fix the page-0 problem either. The DF and IF switches do nothing (i.e. flipping them does not bomb a running program, or prevent reading/writing from the front panel switches), but I think that's normal without the extra 4K installed. -Charles

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Calcupen

by francois＠auradon.com

Hi all, How would one go about disassembling a calcupen? Mine is not coming up anymore with a fresh battery. I would like to see what's up inside: look for corosion and stuff. Thanks Francois Minnesota

23 years, 2 months

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Motorola MCM6665BP20 Specs

by melamy＠earthlink.net

Hi Tim, The format is 64K x 1 with an access time of 200ns. It was introduced sometime before 1982 as it appears in my 1982 IC Master. I have specs for the 6664 part if that would help, but it is supposed to be compatible with the more generic 4164 chip in case you already have specs for that. Best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: "Tim" <thodgson(a)pnc.com.au> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: 2/28/03 2:02:18 PM > G'day, >I've recently been going through a few items I had tucked away & found a bunch >of IC's... >Now I'm going through them, one by one, & trying to find as much info I can >find. > >So far, I've found nothing on the Motorola MCM6665BP20, a 16pin chip with a >secondary code of FQD8432. >I'm trying to find complete specs, any idea's? > >Thanks in advance, > >Tim.

23 years, 2 months

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HP 2100A hardware reference docs?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

I picked up an HP 2100A a couple of days ago and before I do anything with it I'd like to find some hardware reference docs which describe the boards which should be installed, along with schematics and such. I haven't found a copy on the web. Does anyone know where a copy might be found? I have no idea if I have a full set of cards for a functional CPU. All of the blue slots are full of A1-A9 cards. I assume those are the main CPU logic cards. It also looks like there is a 4K two card core memory set (XYD/SSA) plus an 8K two card core memory set. Plus whatever the ID/IDL/DC cards do. The power switch key is gone. Is there a way to bypass that? Also the F5 fuse cap and fuse is gone from the back panel. I hope that is not a sign of power supply problems. The boards installed in the CPU card cages are the following: Front Cage Rear Cage A1 XYD -\ 02100-60052 top jumper A2 SSA(4K) -/ A3 SSA -\ 02100-60054 top jumper A4 XYD -/ A5 ID(16K) -\ \ ribbon cable top jumpers A6 IDL | / A7 DC -/ A8 A9 (twelve empty slots) TERM BUF'R'D TTY 12531 _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 2 months

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DEC Server 300

by cb＠mythtech.net

What does a DEC Server 300 look like? About how big are we talking about? I unloaded the dumpster pulls from last night, and one of the manuals was marked DEC Server 300. So I'm kind of assuming that might be the DEC the other parts came from. I'm thinking of going back for another dive tonight, so I'm wondering what exactly I should be looking for. Or if this is a large machine, I can pretty well say that it isn't in the dumpster. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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decserver 550 in Kansas City

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>> I read somewhere that it could be converted to a 11/53 with a minimal >> effort. How much trouble? >Rip out the CXA's (16-port serial boards), add a disk and/or tape >controller, and perhaps some memory. Off you go. The heart of >the DECserver 550 was/is indeed a barebones /53 CPU. Which comes >with 512KB RAM on the CPU card, and its console serial port. I don't believe you are "ready to go" after this mod. I seem to remember that the ROMs on the DS500 use special boot code and that they need to be replaced to be a normal 11/53. I saw some posts on one of the newsgroups from someone who had done it. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | | | | "this space | (s/ at /@/) | | unavoidably left blank" | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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HP 7905/9706 ??

by aek＠spies.com

>Any body on here seriously interested in the HP 7905 and 7906 disk drives? possibly, depending on location (i'm in the SF bay area) 12995 isn't showing up on any of my parts lists. Was it an HP1000 interface card?

23 years, 2 months

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UK TV programme: The Programmers

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

There's a programme on BBC2, Thursday 6th March at 6.30AM (yup, AM), called "The Programmers" It purports to be about "the history of computing, from hardware and software to programming, and the people who devised the code to make them work". I'll tape it (if I remember). I suspect it's an Open University programme, so with a bit of luck it'll show some truly old hardware, as well as some shocking kipper ties and psychedelic chunky-knit jumpers :) -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

23 years, 2 months

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Neon logic

by bnansel＠mail.nauticom.net

I came across reference to a file, LAMP.ZIP, you posted briefly for the Classic Computer list back in '99. Would it be possible for me to get this file? I'm fascinated by the idea of making counters, logic gates, and memory elements using neon lamps, but repeated google searches reveal very, very little hard information (other than there were such circuits). Also, I've read a few pages on early calculators (such as the Anita) using something similar to neon lamps for logic gates and ring counters, though the pictures lead me to believe they are actually 4-lead gas triodes or thyratrons of some kind. Do you know what these beaties actually were? Finally, I've repeatedly run across mention that neon device switching is slow, but how slow are they? You assistance is appreciated! -RLN

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TRS-80 Model 4 help requested

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I recently picked up a TRS-80 model 4, that seems to have problems with its floppy drives. The machine is a base Model 4 with 64KB of ram (I think - haven't yet taken the EMF shield off the mainboard), and no peripherals attached. When I powered it up the first time, with or without a disk in the (bottom) drive, it displayed "Cass?" on the screen, and then I could press enter to that and the "Memory size?" prompt, and get a basic prompt. I tried swapping the floppy drives, and that time I got a "Diskette?" prompt if there was no disk in the drive, and pressing any keys didn't cause anything to happen. If I put a disk in the drive, the machine never displays anything, and then after 10-20 seconds, the drive light goes out. I tried connecting only one drive at a time, with the same results. If I connected a 1.2MB floppy that I had laying around (a Teac FD-55GFR-149-U), it did the same thing as if the drives were swapped. Yes, I realize that the drive probaly wasn't going to work, I just wanted to see if it did anything. Also, the disk I used was supposed to be a TRS-DOS (bootable) disk, but it's possible that they've gone bad after so many years. Are the disks on the Model 4 recorded so that I can read them on a PC (IE 48/96tpi MFM, compatible with the NEC D765)? I'd like to know if I can make backup images and/or see if the disks work on another machine. Thanks. Pat -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 2 months

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Anybody know what a HP 12995 is?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Just like the title says. Joe

23 years, 2 months

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HP 7905/7906 ???

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Any body on here seriously interested in the HP 7905 and 7906 disk drives? Joe

23 years, 2 months

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Reading a VMS CD-ROM for SIMH under Windows?

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

--- Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > There is no way any of this will make him see the light about Linux > or UNIX or anything... he's an HP Customer Engineer on assignment > with a company laptop and a Digital Personal Alpha Workstation (VMS) > by his desk (no CD-R drive). Although I don't think this will help this particular guy, I would like to say that I have solved the usual "Do I run Windows or {Linux,*BSD} on my laptop" dilema by running both at the same time under VMware. I have installed OpenBSD on a separate partition (so that I can boot native if I have to), but I mostly boot Windows 2000 and run OpenBSD under VMware. I can then run a Windows-based X-Server (eXceed) and talk to the OpenBSD, and even use samba (on the OpenBSD) to mount filesystems from the Windows side. VMware allows direct access to devices (e.g. CDROM, USB,e tc) which means that I can mount any kind of CD and access it using Unix tools). OpenBSD can even see the network so that I can run ssh, IPsec etc from the OpenBSD environment rather than messing with the Windows equivalents. (like I said this is general FYI, which may or may not be particularly applicable to that particular guy). **vp

23 years, 2 months

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Exatron Stringy Floppies

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

When these drives came out, they were touted as being "as good as a regular floppy drive". Being 18, and of limited funds... I remember drooling over the flyers thinking of getting two of these drives and a bunch of tapes. My friends in the local TRS-80 Users Group kept talking me out of that (Kings Byte in Brooklyn). I guess, in retrospect... I'm glad they did. I remember that before I went to disk drives on my E/I, I used to load Level III BASIC (From Microsoft), which had corrected Cassette loading routines) when I would type in programs from magazines. I'm somewhat bummed out that my old Model I is kaput. I've got a bid on another non-working unit locally in South NJ, and if I can win that... I'm hoping to combine the two units into one working one. My old Model I is like a spaghetti factory inside, having the following mods: - Electric Pencil Lowercase Mod - Dennis Kitsz High Speed Mod (auto switching when disk drives or cassette are accessed). - Inverse Video (my friend added this, I hate it!) - Internal Speaker attached to cassette port (for game sounds) - Internal Alpha joystick adapter (just some diodes and a connector) - Reset Button - External Keyboard connector - Composite Video Out - Upgraded keyboard with keypad (it didn't have that originally) - XRX Mod (for more reliable tape loading - Gold Plugs But, the unit is a mess inside. I'd like to strip out a lot of the junk and see if I can get it working again. I've asked my friend who did the mods originally if he'd do that for me. Hopefully, the non-working unit I have my eye on is just a case of loose video RAM chips as the owner said it worked before he sold it to another buyer, and after it arrived it booted up with garbage on the screen. So, I'm hoping that opening the case and reseating some chips will fix it. I did a search and the 21L02 chips (1k x 8) for the video ram upgrade for Lowercase are still available. So, I can add the lowercase mod to it. And I can swap character generator chips with my old unit if need be. I'm hoping one of my two E/I's is still working so I can use it with this keyboard unit. Nostalgia... As for the A&J units, they worked pretty well when I used them at Zebra Systems. I used to load the Terminal program for the 2068 Modem onto one, so I could load it faster... I had a few carts tangle (like an 8 track player), but not many. It's funny, but in the Dennis Kitsz book he had a project to modify an 8 track recorder/player to serve as a mass storage device. The forerunner of Stringy Floppies and later Tape Drives, I guess.... I leafed through that book yesterday. What fun stuff there is in there.... I still have the whole series. Especially Disk and Other Mysteries.. Which was like my Bible back then. I can't remember how many hosed disks I recovered using that... Regards, Al Hartman

23 years, 2 months

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Monrobot XI Instruction Card

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

In case anyone is interested, I've posted a scan of the Monrobot XI Quikomp reference card. This is the language I used to program the Monrobot XI when I was in junior high school back in the 60's. I'm not sure if this is the actual machine language of the machine but it is the only documentation that I have left. It is on my rather lame web page is at: http://www.mv.com/ipusers/xlisper/index.html

23 years, 2 months

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Reading a VMS CD-ROM for SIMH under Windows?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> --- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote: > > > All I wanted was a way with nothing but Windows to read a VMS > > > distro disc. I am now firmly convinced that no such thing is > > > possible without buying *some* piece of software. > > > > Did you check http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/Tools_and_tips.htm > > like I'd suggested? > > I passed the information along to him. He told me that he found a > reference to a likely utility (makeimage?) but could not find it > to download. Could that be the magic util? That bit of info, coupled with Google, turned up the needed info. What you need is the following Zip file mkimage_vax.zip Unfortuantly it's been removed from the website. I'll try and find it tonite, hopefully I've still got a copy. In the mean time, you might want to check: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ it has a copy of dd.exe that doesn't appear to need cgywin installed. Zane

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Litton Industries Monrobot XI computers available

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

I recently received email from FThomas470(a)aol.com informing me about the availability of some Monrobot XI computers. I would love to acquire one of these as the Monrobot XI was the first computer I ever programmed (in junior high school). Unfortunately, I am not sure I am going to be able to afford to ship one from Virginia to NH. In any case, I certainly can't take all 5-6 of them. If you are interested, please contact the email address above. I don't have any more information than what I'm posting here. If anyone decides to rent a truck to move them from Virginia toward New England I'd be interested contributing to the cost of the rental in exchange for hauling one for myself. Here is the text of the messages I've received about these machines: Litton Industries's Monrobot XI We are in Charlottesville, Virginia and we have 5 or 6 of them in storage. Until 7 or 8 years ago two of them were still being used and worked just fine. In their time, they were really great machines and I enjoyed programming and working with them. We also have 2 Friden Computypers which are earlier than the Monrobots. They had no electronics at all, but used rwo Friden late model mechanical calculators with solenoids on all the keys and electrical contacts on all the dials. They used a pile of stepping switches and a big plug-board for programming. It was a far-out design but worked very well. We will be moving shortly and are pressed for space. Please let me have your thoughts and/or suggestions. If you are interested, any reasonable offer would be considered. The Monrobot consists of the main computer unit which contains the electronics and magnetic drum, a little control unit with switches and control buttons and a place for the I/O typewriter. It's about the size of an office desk and weighs about 400 lbs. A side section connects to it and has a paper tape punch and a reader.

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Neon logic

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Robert Nansel wrote: > I came across reference to a file, LAMP.ZIP, you posted briefly for the > Classic Computer list back in '99. Would it be possible for me to get this > file? I'm fascinated by the idea of making counters, logic gates, and > memory elements using neon lamps, but repeated google searches reveal very, > very little hard information (other than there were such circuits). I have put lamp.zip back up on my web page once again. The zip file contains scanned images of pages describing glow lamp logic circuits. The size is 1.6 MB. http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/lamp.zip These scans are from "General Electric Glow Lamp Manual", first edition, 1963 pages 45-66 I would appreciate someone hosting these scans because I don't have the space to keep it up there all the time. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

23 years, 2 months

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Free DEC MINC-11 in NW England

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>What's happened in the intervening two years - filled the >gaps with more machines ? :-) Well, although I've acquired a few additional machines (and manuals, handbooks, software and other memorabilia), the condo is getting pretty empty of such stuff as I try (seemingly perpetually) to prepare it for sale... the machines are in storage (with a few machines being held for me at other locations) Someday I hope to have a house with a basement and garage where I can truly have the stuff available to be seen... Megan

23 years, 2 months

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Free DEC MINC-11 in NW England

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

> [Description of rescue squad removed] >I will nominate Sellam as high priest, Megan as high priestess, and tony >as hardware witchdoctor. . I love it.. :-) If you could have seen my condo about 2 years ago, you would have seen exactly what you described... machines, documentation and disks everywhere, with only narrow paths down either side of my living room so that I could get to the machines, couch and tv (though one could not watch the tv from the couch, as there was a row of dec tall cabs in the way). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | | | | "this space | (s/ at /@/) | | unavoidably left blank" | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 2 months

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Fortran

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Gosh, I had /no/ idea that Fortran was a "column-sensitive" programming language; I thought that COBOL was the only one... What other languages are column sensitive? I'd guess at APL, but I'm sure there are others. -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

23 years, 2 months

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A&J Stringy Floppy

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> From: Robert Borsuk <rborsuk(a)colourfull.com> > > Woohoo, > Timex guys on the list. I can ask a Timex > (sort of) question now. > I have an A&J MicroDrive (Stringy Floppy - The next > big thing to rule the world) that I don't have any > information on. I would love to use it with my > T1000. It was almost complete in the box. > Interface, drive, cable, even some new stringy > floppies still sealed. Does anyone have a > manual for this thing? I've poked around online but > haven't seen too much. Nope. We used to sell those at Zebra Systems. Check the interface adapter. It should indicate on it whether it's a TS-1000 or TS-2068 adapter. I can't remember the commands anymore. If I find anything, I'll let you know.. Regards, Al

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decserver 550 in Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Wandering through the local surplus I found a decserver 550 in a full height rack. It had the following boards in it. 4 X CXA16-M M3118 1 X DESQA-SA M3127 1 X KDJ11-SD M7554 Bulkheads, power supply, and cables I read somewhere that it could be converted to a 11/53 with a minimal effort. How much trouble? Mike m m c f a d d e n @ c m h . e d u

23 years, 2 months

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Univac on eBay

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

WHAT, Sellam hasn't won it yet? (grin) i'm sure he he would love to get the univac - but like the rest of us - that price is not only steep but way overkill. Bill Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:33:57 -0800 (PST) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Univac on eBay Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, Stuart Johnson wrote: > > I can't imagine what the reserve is!. > > At this point, I don't care. I just want to be present when whoever wins the > auction picks up the machine. This is one of the coolest machines I might > ever see in my lifetime. Right here in my little town. Here's hopin'... Have you contacted the seller yet to schedule a time to go check it out, take pictures, notes, etc.? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * --__--__--

23 years, 2 months

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Reading a VMS CD-ROM for SIMH under Windows?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> All I wanted was a way with nothing but Windows to read a VMS > distro disc. I am now firmly convinced that no such thing is > possible without buying *some* piece of software. Did you check http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/Tools_and_tips.htm like I'd suggested? I'm not sure what the mkdisk v1.2 is, but I think it might be what you need. I *KNOW* they had a utility for doing this. If this isn't it, send me an email asking me to check my Virtual PC system to see if I've still got a copy of the utility. Zane

23 years, 2 months

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Motorola MCM6665BP20 Specs

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 02/28/2003 2:09:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, thodgson(a)pnc.com.au writes: > Motorola MCM6665BP20, a 16pin chip with a > secondary code of FQD8432. > 64K DRAM 200 ns. made in 1984/32 Paxton Astoria, OR

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DECNA eth adapter for DEC Pro-350

by franco.tassone＠inwind.it

Hi all, does anybody of you know if there is a chance to get a DECNA adapter for my Pro-350 ? I've got the insane idea to install 2.9bsd with the Pro-3xx modifications, including the support for the DECNA... ... Franco Tassone

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RX01 Cosmetic Aid Needed

by univac2＠earthlink.net

It's just a little thing, but it's going to bother me when I mount my RX01 in my nice white rack... Does anyone have a spare white front panel for an RX01 floppy unit? Mine came without one, I believe because the previous owner (the US Air Force, I believe) removed it so that the door on the front of the H960 rack it was mounted in would be able to close. -- Owen Robertson

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harris 6100's on ebay

by ericj＠speakeasy.org

Someone is auctioning tubes of harris 6100's on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4663&item=2511601427… Am I correct in thinking this is a pdp-8 compatible processor? Can you build a pdp-8 clone like the sbc6120 using these? Regards, -- Eric Josephson <ericj(a)speakeasy.org>

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TRS-80 Model 4 help requested

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Thanks for all of your corrections, it's been some time since I worked daily with a TRS-80 Model I/III/IV. I sold my 4p several years ago (where most of my Model IV experience comes from). I agree with you vis-a-vis the floppies. Maybe the drive is just off speed, and needs a head cleaning. It could be worse off. Drive speed can be roughly adjusted using the decal on the motor and adjusting the pot on the speed board with a non-ferrous screwdriver (like a TV Adjustment tool). I think when I go to Trenton next May, I'll keep my eye out for a Model III or IV. Thanks again! Al

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decserver 550 in Kansas City

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 28, 10:23, Jochen Kunz wrote: > > [ plain text > Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] : On 2003.02.28 07:00 Stuart Johnson wrote: > > > Jonathan, what I want to know is how do you connect the RX50 and > > RD(whatever) hard drive to the RQDX3? > There are different distribution panels that split the 50 pin cable from > the RQDXx. The M9058 dist panel for the BA123 looks like a double QBus > card and sits in "QBus slot 13" in the BA123. The BA23 dist panel is > mounted inside the enclosure on the back of the QBus backplane. I have > the wiring of this panel, I can mail it to you when you want to build > your own dist panel. There is a BA213 dist panel that replaces the front > panel in a BA213 and has some additional switches LEDs to reset the CPU > etc. I think it is not that easy to rebuild this. It's not that hard to make something that will work. The distribution panels that split up the signals from the RXDX1/2/3 boards to connect to RDxx or RX50 are mostly just rerouting signals (some include some buffering). I've made up two of my own; one simple one, on Veroboard (stripboard), and one as a PCB. If you look in http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/RQDX/ you'll find the PCB layout and component overlay, along with the RQDX pinouts, for the larger of the two I made. It includes provision for switches or jumpers to do the job of the front panel switches. The circuits for the switches, inbcidentally, are very simple -- a latching switch, LED, one transistor (to invert the signal, as I recall) and a few resistors. It needn't even be as complex as that. I once traced out and re-drew the schematic of the M9058 board, but I can't find the PostScript file now :-( If I ever do, I'll post it on the website as well. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ISIS-II command summary?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Steve Here they are: :F0: - :F3: Primary diskettes :F4: - :F5: Single density on double-density systems :T1: Teletype keyboard :T0: Teletype printer :TP: Teletype Punch :TR: Teletype reader :VI: Video term Keyboard :VO: Video term screen :HP: High-speed paper tape punch :HR: High-speed paper tape reader :LP: Line printer :CI: Console in :CO: Console out :BB: Byte bucket >From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy(a)earthlink.net> > > >Hi Dwight, thanks for the reminder email. I had remembered DELETE >and COPY, but I could not remember all the details. One thing >that is missing though is what deisgnator was device designator >was used for the serial connectors on the back. I seem to remember >console was :CO: and :CI:... if that is correct? > >Thanks again. > >best regards, Steve > >>--- Original Message --- >>From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> >>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >>Date: 2/28/03 2:37:41 PM >> >>From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy(a)earthlink.net> >>> >>>Hi all, I got my Intel MDS225 working today, but I only have >>>a single double density drive on it. I seem to recall that >it >>>would read single density, but you accessed by a different >drive >>>specifier. I can't seem to find one bit of documentation on >the >>>ISIS command at home. Does anyone have a summary page they >could >>>scan and send? >>> >>>I am also looking for the 50 pin connection wiring so I can >connect >>>a drive externally. >>> >>>It was fun booting up ISIS-II version 4.2 and seeing the prompt >>>come up. I also had a CP/M 2.2 version that booted perfectly! >>> >>>best regards, Steve Thatcher >>> >> >>Hi >> I thought I'd add a list of commands from the users >>manual for the archives: >> >>IDISK <device> <label> [S] >> S = System >>FORMAT <device> <label> [<switch>] >> switch: A = Copy all files from :F0: >> S = Copy only files with system attribute >>DEBUG [<progname> [ <parameters> ]] >>SUBMIT <name>[.<extension>][(<parameter0>,<parameter1>...<parameter9>)] >> paramters are %0 to %9 in script >>DIR [FOR <file>][TO <listfile>][<switch>] >> switch: 0 - 5 = :F0: to :F5: >> I = List all files including invisible attrib >> F = Fast listing >> P = Single drive to DIR second disk >>COPY <oldfile1>[,<oldfile2>,<oldfile3>...] TO <newfile>[<switch>] >> switch: U = update but don't change attrib and don't print >> "ALREADY EXITS" >> S = System files only when wild card used. >> N = Non-system files only when wild card used. >> P = pause for single drive with two floppies >> Q = Query >> C = Copy attribs >> B = Replace, regardless >>DELETE <file1>[Q}[,<file2>[Q],<file3>[Q]...][P] >> Q = query confirm >> P = pause to change disk >>ATTRIB <file> <attriblist> [Q] >> Attrib: I0 = Reset invisible >> I1 = Set invisible >> W0 = Reset Write protect >> W1 = Set Write protect >> F0 = Reset Format attrb F1 = Set Format >attrb \ Don't mess with this >> S0 = Reset Syst attrib >> S1 = Set Syst attrib >>BINOBJ <binfile> TO <absfile> >>HEXOBJ <hexfile> TO <absfile>[ START(addr)] >>OBJHEX <absfile> TO <hexfile> >>EDIT Tico like commands >> B$$ = begin of text >> Z$$ = end of text >> [n]L$$ = n lines >> [n]C$$ = n characters >> Ftext$$ = find "text" >> Itext$$ = insert "text" >> Soldtext$[newtext]$$ = find "oldtext" and replace with "newtext >> [n]D$$ = delete n characters >> [n]K$$ = delete n lines >> [n]T$$ = Type n lines 0TT$$ entire line with cursor in line >> E$$ = Exit >> Q$$ = quit >> [n]W$$ = write n lines >> A$$ = Append >> M$$ = decimal space available >> n<commandstring>$$ = Does commandstring n times >> >> >> >>Hope this helps future ISIS-II users. >>Dwight

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ISIS-II command summary?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy(a)earthlink.net> > >Hi all, I got my Intel MDS225 working today, but I only have >a single double density drive on it. I seem to recall that it >would read single density, but you accessed by a different drive >specifier. I can't seem to find one bit of documentation on the >ISIS command at home. Does anyone have a summary page they could >scan and send? > >I am also looking for the 50 pin connection wiring so I can connect >a drive externally. > >It was fun booting up ISIS-II version 4.2 and seeing the prompt >come up. I also had a CP/M 2.2 version that booted perfectly! > >best regards, Steve Thatcher > Hi I thought I'd add a list of commands from the users manual for the archives: IDISK <device> <label> [S] S = System FORMAT <device> <label> [<switch>] switch: A = Copy all files from :F0: S = Copy only files with system attribute DEBUG [<progname> [ <parameters> ]] SUBMIT <name>[.<extension>][(<parameter0>,<parameter1>...<parameter9>)] paramters are %0 to %9 in script DIR [FOR <file>][TO <listfile>][<switch>] switch: 0 - 5 = :F0: to :F5: I = List all files including invisible attrib F = Fast listing P = Single drive to DIR second disk COPY <oldfile1>[,<oldfile2>,<oldfile3>...] TO <newfile>[<switch>] switch: U = update but don't change attrib and don't print "ALREADY EXITS" S = System files only when wild card used. N = Non-system files only when wild card used. P = pause for single drive with two floppies Q = Query C = Copy attribs B = Replace, regardless DELETE <file1>[Q}[,<file2>[Q],<file3>[Q]...][P] Q = query confirm P = pause to change disk ATTRIB <file> <Attriblist> [Q] Attrib: I0 = Reset invisible I1 = Set invisible W0 = Reset Write protect W1 = Set Write protect F0 = Reset Format attrb \ F1 = Set Format attrb \ Don't mess with this S0 = Reset Syst attrib S1 = Set Syst attrib BINOBJ <binfile> TO <absfile> HEXOBJ <hexfile> TO <absfile>[ START(addr)] OBJHEX <absfile> TO <hexfile> EDIT Tico like commands B$$ = begin of text Z$$ = end of text [n]L$$ = n lines [n]C$$ = n characters Ftext$$ = find "text" Itext$$ = insert "text" Soldtext$[newtext]$$ = find "oldtext" and replace with "newtext [n]D$$ = delete n characters [n]K$$ = delete n lines [n]T$$ = Type n lines 0TT$$ entire line with cursor in line E$$ = Exit Q$$ = quit [n]W$$ = write n lines A$$ = Append M$$ = decimal space available n<commandstring>$$ = Does commandstring n times Hope this helps future ISIS-II users. Dwight

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TRS-80 Model 4 help requested

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> Patrick Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> Pat, I tried to boot my Model I to see if I could make you a good boot disk using SuperUtility. It seems my Model I is no more. My friend who I had traded it to (and then gave it back) has modified it quite a bit, and it became delicate. It no longer works at all.. I can use the cassette unit fine, but the E/I is bad, and the LNW E/I I have doesn't seem to work with the unit either. I suspect the keyboard unit more than 2 E/I's are bad. I'm trying to find a Model III or IV locally. If I can, I'll get in touch with you about getting you a boot disk. I might be able to make you one with my Coco and using a Disk Copy Utility on the Coco... I haven't tried yet, and would have no way to test it.. Regards, Al Hartman

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Motorola MCM6665BP20 Specs

by thodgson＠pnc.com.au

G'day, I've recently been going through a few items I had tucked away & found a bunch of IC's... Now I'm going through them, one by one, & trying to find as much info I can find. So far, I've found nothing on the Motorola MCM6665BP20, a 16pin chip with a secondary code of FQD8432. I'm trying to find complete specs, any idea's? Thanks in advance, Tim.

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Mind fries. was: RE: Free DEC MINC-11 in NW England -

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Mike's fried mind came up with a *really* interesting juxtaposition: >"I will sacrifice an Intel computer daily to purify myself" >"I will never use WD40 as it contaminates all it touches." Ah hah - the equivalent of molten iron for the wintel box? Maybe better to just think of them (Wintel boxes and WD40) as offsetting penalties - put them together and the world will be a safer place for classics. A pleasant image, anyway. Hee hee hee. - Mark

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Free DEC MINC-11 in NW England

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Steve Jones said >Looks like there's a DEC MINC-11 in good condition to be >had for free in the North of England. Please, somebody go >save this thing from the skip! Maybe Adrian "Two Sheds" >Vickers can use it for a climate control system for his >garage... ;^) It's Friday and my mind is fried. /begin humor I think we need a travelling/flying squad of "rescuers" who can jet/travel to the location of the systems and recover them. I'll volunteer to quit my job, leave my family, and "save" lost computers. It's probably a calling, just like the priesthood. ( I will ignore all religious flames!) "The salvation army of computers". I will get a battered truck and travel the countryside as a wandering saver of discarded computers. Part of our oath will be "I promise to save all computers lost or not, as long as they have never been contaminated by the dreaded plague of Microsoft" (I will ignore all Microsoft flames!) "I will live in poverty surrounded by pieces of lost computers that I am attempting to resurrect." ( I again will ignore all religious flames!) "I will sacrifice an Intel computer daily to purify myself" "I will never use WD40 as it contaminates all it touches." "I will always search for the elusive Babbage Model 0100." Or I could donate a large barn and some land, and we can set up a commune of computer zealots. Wait there are men in white coats coming to take me away, no it's my wife's lawyer with papers for me to sign!! I will nominate Sellam as high priest, Megan as high priestess, and tony as hardware witchdoctor. . /end humor Mike

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Large, multi-button mouse recommendations?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Forget mice -- get a good, large track ball. I use an 2.25" Atari arcade trackball that I put in a custom cardboard and foamcore case, with two arcade button switches. I got it from Happ Controls (http://www.happcontrols.com/). Current price with USB or PS2 interface is $145. When I got mine (almost 15 years ago, so it is on-topic), it did not come with a PC interface, so I cannibalized a cheap serial mouse and made an interface. I think I still have plans I made up for that. I have had to clean and lube it only once in >10 years. I have it hooked to an IBM T20 laptop -- in its box, it's nearly as big as the laptop! -----Original Message----- From: Bill Richman [mailto:bill@timeguy.com] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:28 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: OT: Large, multi-button mouse recommendations? I've been doing a lot of finicky CAD work recently, and my hand is really starting to hurt from gripping the mouse tightly for fine control. I'm looking for a larger mouse (according to one site that sells various sizes of mouse, I'm between a "large" and an "x-large" hand size) that I can lay my hand more or less flat on top of (maybe with a couple of finger loops, so you don't have to grasp it constantly) and ideally with a small multi-button keypad of some kind on top. Is there such an animal out there (aside from the Space Mouse guys' $500 products) that might have these features? Suggestions welcome.

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