This is an external voice synthesis box based on an Intel 8031
micro-controller and a TSP5220CNL synthesis chip. It has an RS232
interface, volume and tone knobs, a headphone jack and an RCA jack for
external audio.
Does anybody remember these things and how to talk to them? I've tried
all of the various bps rate and parity combinations from 300 to 19200
and I can't get anything response (data or sound).
Thanks,
Mike
The Victor 9000 had a variable spindle speed, I cant remember if the
drive spun faster on the inside or outside tracks. Also, the index hole
detector was not used. Many of the drives did not have a index
detector, on the drives that did have an index hole sensor, it worked
just as well without it plugged in. I got in a argument about the
ability to use hard sectored floppies in the Victor 9000 with a Victor
sales rep once. Even after I showed him that the index detector was not
connected, he still didn't believe me.
Les
Hi!
I am putting together the next set of S-100 PCB reorders for the S-100
hobbyist group.
The two boards I would like to order next are the S-100 EPROM and S-100 IO
boards.
So far, I have eight builders on the waiting list for the S-100
Flash/EEPROM/EPROM/SRAM board
http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/PROM%20Board/PROM%20Board.htm
I have eleven builders on the waiting list for the S-100 Serial IO (with USB
and Speech Synthesis)
http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Serial%20IO%20Board/Serial%20IO
%20Board.htm
I need about reasonably firm 20 builders on the waiting list to warrant a
PCB reorder.
Both of these boards are going to be respins to correct any issues from the
original boards. They are useful in any S-100 system and offer full
IEEE-696 compatibility.
Please contact me by email LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM if interested in either or both
boards. They will be $20 each plus $3 shipping in the US and $6 elsewhere
as per usual arrangement. I will combine shipping on multiple boards to
reduce shipping depending on weight.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> One other nice featuroe of these drives is a slotted optoswtich near the
> head carrarriage that changes state at cylinder 43. This is used (I think
> it's a jumper-selected option) to reduce the write current, so you don't
> need to provide the TG43 signal from the controller. Very handy if you're
> using them with a PC/AT controller ;-)
I know it's easy to generate this signal with an inexpensive
microcontroller, but I'm curious what drives have this feature. I
have a TM848 (can't remember if it's -1 or -2 - I'd probably have to
pull it from the Dataram Qbus chassis it's in to check, but since it's
meant to emulate an RX02, it's *probably* a TM848-1) that I was
planning on rigging to a PC-class machine at some point to image my
pile of RX01 and box of CP/M 8" floppies.
Of course with all the DEC gear I have, I might as well look into
using vtserver to pull down RX01 _and_ RX02 images from a real RX02
drive, but I still have plans to build a PC-based multi-media floppy
imaging box, so I'm keeping my eye out for a preferred model of 8"
drive for that purpose.
So far, I really only know a little bit about the SA800s and the
TM848s (and the Calcomps used in RX01s and RX02s, but I'm not likely
to hang one of those off of a PC). Anyone have any recommendations
for good drives to use with PCs?
-ethan
Hi,
A neighbouring hacker space has access to some Motorola 6805 equipment
pulls. These are 6800s with some amount of on-chip RAM, ROM and IO.
I have no idea what the ROM might contain or if you can circumvent the
ROM with your own code in off-chip RAM.
They don't have any plans for these chips. If you are familiar with
them, we'd like to learn more about them. If you need some for your
project, just let me know.
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "MikeS" <dm561 at torfree.net>
Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:32:05 -0500
>> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:50:19 -0800
>> From: Geoffrey Reed <geoffr at zipcon.net>
>> Subject: Re: WTD: 8-inch floppy drive
>>
>> IIRC the tandon TM-848-2 drives use 24VDC motors... I always liked them
>> better than the shugart drives.
>>
>
>Me too!
>
>Note that the earlier TM-848s used a belt drive, whereas the 848-2 is direct
>drive (all 24VDC of course).
>
>m
>
What is a typical sales price for a functioning 8" drive? I have some YE data YD180 "surplus to requirements". They run on +5 and +24 VDC. The power connect looks like the connects on 3.5" floppies, about double width. All drives are DSDD
Hi all,
I'm cleaning out my library and have the following set of IBM mainframe security
documentation free for 20lbs shipping from 94025. Sorry, all or nothing - I only
want to make one trip to ship these. These manuals cover the period from early
to late-1980s.
They go to the first person to accept the lot. Will get recycled if not claimed
by 2/2. Have already offered to Bitsavers, and have scanned in case Al wants
later.
Lee Courtney
lee_courtney at acm.org
Auditing Top Secret Overview
MVS Secured using CA-ACF2
RACF Overview
MAJOR COMPONENTS OF AN ACF2-PROTECTED SYSTEM
ACF2 Training Class
Access Control Facility Auditor's Guide
Access Control Facility IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING GUIDE
The Access Control Facility General Information Manual
The Access Control Facility Overview
Access Control Facility UTILITIES MANUAL
ACF2 Composite Index
ACF2 Release 4 Enhancement Summary
The Access Control Facility Administrators Guide
VM Secure Users Guide
VM CMS User Guide and Reference Manual
VMSECURE Quick Reference
ACF2 Reporting System Reference Card
CA-ACF2 Audit Overview
What About VM Security
VM Software Fee Schedule
VM Software Newsletter
AUTOMATING THE AUDIT OF RACF PROFILES
CONSUL Mainframe Security Overview
CONSUL RACF Sample Output
CONSUL RACF User Reference Manual
BoKS Administration
BoKs Release Notes and Getting Started Guide
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Rod Smallwood
<rodsmallwood at btconnect.com> wrote:
> How about a whole PDP11 including the IDE interface?
Sounds fun to me.
> http://www.heeltoe.com/download/pdp11/README.html
That's a fun little project. Looking at the size of it, a little 2.5"
IDE drive (or CF) would go well with it - small enough to make a
native 16-bit portable (one of my long-term frivolous projects is
marrying a wee dumb terminal to a wee PDP-8 or PDP-11 for a
laptop-sized environment - easier to load into the car than the real
thing. The SBC6120+IOB6120 is a good core for one version of that,
this could be another, using a Spare Time Gizmos VT-4 or similar).
-ethan
I believe I've sent two posts to the list this
week. I haven't seen them, nor has anyone replied or cited them.
(Blows across microphone) Is this thing on?
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:56:28 -0800
>On 3/2/11 10:10 AM, nico wrote:
>
>> What is a typical sales price for a functioning 8" drive?
>
>How much would it cost to get one to Philip from where you are?
>
>I'll cover the cost up to $100 total.
>
Just checked the going mail rates.
If the weight is up to 5 kilo, a package will cost $ 55. They take $ 5 for an extra kilo.
For an extra 18$, I can send 10 kilo. The heavier, the "cheaper"
Would it be an idea with 2 drives, as the second would be almost for free, postage wise.
If I send only 1 drive, I will in effect sell it for 45$, which is a but cheap
BTW, I still have the diagrams for the Qualstar 3412S you asked about years ago. Still interested?
Nico
Hi guys,
I'm trying to track down an 8-inch floppy drive to read an Intel MDS
M2FM disc I've been sent for adding to the DiscFerret decoder engine.
Specifically: it's an ISIS boot floppy, in SS/DD format.
Does anyone have a spare 8in drive gathering dust in a corner somewhere?
Based on the prices on Greed-Bay, I get the impression most of the
sellers have been engaging in some form of abuse of illicit
substances.... I mean, seriously, $700 for a Shugart 801, "untested"
(which would seem to be a synonym for "I know it's broken but I sure as
hell won't admit it!") and missing the head-amp / motor control PCB?
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
This just keeps getting better.
It seems the failed EEPROM chip in my logic analyser left a parting
gift: it spiked the D4 and A9 lines on its way out. In other words, it's
killed half a dozen bus transceivers (74F244 and 74F245), and probably
the two MCM6206 high-speed RAMs as well...
Does anyone have any Motorola MCM6206 series parts to hand, preferably
in the J-lead surface-mount package?
The parts installed now are MCM6206DJ35, but other (faster) speed grades
should be fine too.
I need at least two of these, but preferably four or five so I've got
spares for future use...
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:50:19 -0800
> From: Geoffrey Reed <geoffr at zipcon.net>
> Subject: Re: WTD: 8-inch floppy drive
>
> IIRC the tandon TM-848-2 drives use 24VDC motors... I always liked them
> better than the shugart drives.
>
Me too!
Note that the earlier TM-848s used a belt drive, whereas the 848-2 is direct
drive (all 24VDC of course).
m
Truly astounding work - thanks for doing this and for sharing it.
Wayne
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:17:19 +0100
From: Olivier De Smet <olivier.2.smet at gmail.com>
Subject: HP 9000 series 200 emulator
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Message-ID:
<AANLkTikqDgzuhHVPdk6HZWRczuHt28_QJzPjNu1U7+qH at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,
I have seen recently some 'request' for an hp 9000 serie 200 emulator
.... here it is :
http://sites.google.com/site/olivier2smet2/hp_projects/hp98x6
Olivier
Hi Rod,
I do not think an MFM/RLL (ST506/ST412) to IDE bridge board is feasible.
The SCSI-1 and IDE interfaces are purely digital and the drives are
intelligent enough to abstract much of the realtime complexities of
communicating with the hard drive itself. As a result the bridge board
between the SCSI-1 and IDE is relatively simple and a basic Z80 embedded
controller is able to accomplish the data transfer relatively easily. It is
well suited for a community hobbyist project like the SCSI to IDE/SD bridge
board we are working on at Vintage-Computer.com forums.
MFM/RLL (ST506/ST412) interfaces are a high speed extension of the Shugart
floppy drive interface with some additional signals. It is a hard realtime
interface and low level way to communicate with the hard drive. As a result
it would require an extremely sophisticated high speed controller to
interpret the signals to and from the MFM/RLL (ST506/ST412). A simple Z80
or microcontroller based controller would not be able to accomplish the task
in my opinion. It may be possible but I believe it would be an expensive
commercial device and probably quite rare.
The SCSI-1 to/from IDE/SD project is a hobbyist community project and I
think would be quite helpful to the wide array of legacy/vintage/classic
devices which use SCSI-1 drives. So far, I have heard from owners of the
obvious microcomputers like Atari, Amiga, Apple Mac, Sun workstations, DEC,
etc. However many other devices used SCSI-1 devices such as synthesizers, a
variety of test and lab equipment (?), sewing machines (?), photocopiers
(?), and other devices I would have never suspected used SCSI-1 drives.
At the moment, there are 6 builders with the prototype PCBs but none have
reported a working build yet. The parts are very common and the design uses
only "hobbyist friendly" construction for easy assembly. However, the
software still needs to be written which should be largely reuse of existing
Z80 code from existing N8VEM projects. If you or anyone else is interested
in working on the project please contact me. I still have 4 remaining
prototype PCBs. My goal is to get this project up and running before the
SCSI-1 drives become difficult to obtain such as 100 TPI floppy drives,
MFM/RLL (ST506/ST412) hard drives, and other uncommon storage medias.
All of the technical information on the project is available at the N8VEM
wiki. It will be free/open and publicly posted for community benefit like
the rest of the N8VEM boards. Please read the existing technical
documentation before critiquing the design.
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder
<http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder¶m=MINI%20SCSI%20
to%20IDE%20prototypes> ¶m=MINI%20SCSI%20to%20IDE%20prototypes
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
SCSI -1 to IDE and SD project
Rod Smallwood rodsmallwood at btconnect.com
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Hi
This looks interesting. As collector of DEC systems my need is slightly
different insofar as due to the rapid disappearance of ST506 (MFM) drives I
need to make say an IDE drive look like a an ST506 drive to a DEC MFM
controller.
Whilst your SCSI to IDE is nice I'm not short of SCSI drives. However with
your experience you might like to comment on if you think a DEC MFM
controller to IDE drive converter box is feasible.
Regards
Rod Smallwood
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Hi! Several weeks ago there was a discussion on CCTALK about a free/open
SCSI to IDE and SD project. I designed a PCB using the Z53C80 and a Z80
with RAM/ROM/UART/IDE and SD. There is a prototype available waiting for
some interested builders to take on the project.
As far as I know none of the builders have a completed unit although I think
if we had at least one working unit the project would make some real
progress. I have four remaining SCSI to IDE/SD prototype boards so if
anyone would like to join the project as a software developer please let me
know. I believe much of the software can be reused from previous N8VEM
and/or other free/open software projects.
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/page/35044530/PCB-Inventory
Thanks and have a nice day!
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:34:59 +0000 (GMT)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> Subject: Re: Ted Nelson interview
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Message-ID: <m1PtkWP-000J48C at p850ug1>
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>
>> I don't understand, Tony. I mean, you spent the past several years
>> trying to convince us all that you * everything *. :)
>
> I beg your pardon...
>
> I have repeatedly said that I am not an expert on _anything_. And that
> there are many, many, things that I do not know, and cannot do. And I
> sill stick to that
>
> BTW, thanks to everyone who enlightened me as to what Ted Nelson did.
Tony and everyone,
You can also see Ted Nelson here - http://www.viddler.com/explore/waxpancake/videos/6/1.964/
Starting at 6:17.
If anyone has never watched this documentary before, I highly recommend it! It's my favorite.
Best,
David Greelish, Computer Historian
Classic Computing
The Home of Computer History Nostalgia
http://www.classiccomputing.com
Classic Computing Blog
Classic Computing Show video podcast
"Stan Veit's History of the Personal Computer" audiobook podcast
Retro Computing Roundtable podcast
Historical Computer Society
Classic Computing Expo 1.0 - planning for sometime late 2011!
Has anyone ever tried using the tu58em program to boot a VMS 5.2 install standalone backup on an 11/750 ?
I ask because I am attempting to do so, and I keep encountering mount verify errors when I get to the fourth tape in the set. I see a lot of web references to using tu58em in the PDP-11 world, but not so much on the VAX. I suspect some sort of protocol error caused by an invalid response from the emulator. Same problem with the VMS 5.3 install, by the way.
Before I pursue this approach to installing the OS any further I thought I'd see whether there's a known issue trying to do this.
-Dave
Looked at the Microsoft package mentioned and then looked at the rest
of their items for sale. Noticed a couple of interesting pieces.
140486117150
Vintage Oasys 30 AFII Japanese luggable computer
Cheap Altos V terminal if you can pick it up. shipping expensive
140517031868
Altos V-H Serial ASCII terminal
130491138458
Altos x086 Multibus Adapter Board with Tapemaster card
They have a bunch of PS2 computers also at the moment.
No connection with The Hackery in Vancouver BC, Canada other than as a customer.
Paxton
--
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
CC team, Martin Howard is putting together a display for the Pentagon
and seeks (to purchase) a Zenith Z-100, like the following:
http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-original/index.html
If anyone has a source for this please contact him directly at:
martinhoward at sympatico.ca
416-690-7432
Bruce
Does anyone have a manual/datasheet/doc the for the Fujitsu Etherstar
86950B Ethernet controller? My Google-Fu has failed. I'm writing a
driver for an old VMEBus card and there are a few things that I'd like
to understand better.
KJ
Who is the manufacturer and what are the part numbers for the male &
female 20mA current loop connectors and contacts that are commonly
used on DEC equipment?
--
Michael Thompson
>
> The following is a ad from eHam.net:
>
> Title: Motorola 68000 System
>
> Description: Unique 68000 S-100 CPU board and assorted other boards and
> engineering notes for sale. The board is the design feature of my 68000
> book published in 1987. Photos and details at
> http://wilcoxengineering.com/68000-microprocessor - I can provide more
> specifics for serious inquiries only.
>
> The MR-8 concept and the communication-stack C code could form the basis
> of a modern co-processor product for data collection, radio control
> control, etc. All the code and papers are part of the collection. A
> possible business opportunity growing out of an older processor - or an
> engaging hobbyist project!
>
> Will not split; this special historical collection stays together. Contact
> me through the site.
>
> ----- end of message -----
>
>
> You can see this ad in full at:
>
> http://eham.net/classifieds/detail/338428
>
>
> This email was sent to you from Alan D. Wilcox (W3DVX) through a
> notification
> system on eHam.net.
>
[AJL>]
FYI anyone interested in a famous S-100 68K CPU board prototype. This is
the board Prof Wilcox used in his book on 68000 system design and
troubleshooting. A real historical piece!
Thanks!
Andrew Lynch
Hi! I did a recent reorder of the S-100 4MB SRAM boards and have a few left
over. If you would like one they are $20 each plus $3 shipping in the US or
$6 elsewhere.
These boards were very popular last year and many builders requested for
another batch. I got some extra PCBs anticipating there would be others
coming along later.
These boards have no known defects AFAIK and dozens builders have gotten
them since last year. They can use either SRAM or Flash memory chips and
are all DIP/PTH construction for easy assembly.
Please contact me if you would like one or more. Thanks and have a nice
day!
Andrew Lynch
PS I set up a Google Group for announcements on the S100computers and N8VEM
S-100 projects called N8VEM-S100
OK, does anyone know what this is??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140474798391
Google fails me on this, other than to find that a guy once wrote a
manual for it.
My (uninformed) guess is that it's an early TCP/IP stack for Windows 3.x.
I'm almost tempted to buy it to find out, were it not for the Canadian shipping.
--
jht
I'll attempt to keep a long story short here:
I have over the past few years been putting together a MicroVAX III; I
have a KA650-B CPU, 16MB of memory, a CMD SCSI interface and a DEQNA
ethernet interface. A couple of years back I got a VCB02 and finally
this week I got ahold of a BC18Z cable so that I can actually connect
the VCB02 to a monitor/keyboard/mouse :).
I've got everything installed and wired up this evening, the problem is,
I can't seem to get it working. On powerup, the monitor syncs with the
video signal the VCB02 is sending out (and I get a brief screen with
some garbage on it followed by a black screen), and the keyboard emits a
couple of very short beeps during the diagnostic cycle, but the MicroVAX
doesn't seem to acknowledge the existence of the VCB02. All diagnostics
pass.
So, a few questions:
- Is there a specific ROM version I need in order for the KA650 to
recognize the VCB02? I have V1.2/0123 which seems pretty early (given
that I've seen references to 5.3 on the 'net). If so, anyone know where
I can find a dump?
- What keyboards is the VCB02 compatible with? I'm using it with an
LK201 from my VT220 currently, and all four LEDs are lit constantly,
which starts me to wondering...
- Are there any restrictions on slots/card ordering I should be
concerned with? This is in a BA23 backplane (which originally housed a
MicroVAX I)
Thanks!
Josh
Some updates ....
1. VCF East 7.0 is on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vintage-Computer-Festival-East-70/12799934393…
Yes, that link stinks. Facebook says we need 25 page fans before we're
entitled to a customized link. So please "like" and become a fan of our
page ASAP.
2. Dan "Ragooman" Roganti will run a "Build your own transistor logic
circuit" workshop. Neat!
3. Our exhibit registration is open at
http://www.vintage.org/2011/east/index.php (click the 'exhibits' link on
the top right), BUT, it currently only works for people who previously
registered. It's not working for new registrants. We're trying to fix
that.
4. So far we have lectures confirmed about UNIVAC/Unisys and about the
heydey of homebrewed microcomputing in the NYC, NJ, and Philadelphia
region. We're working to create lectures about Monrobot; Bell Labs'
TRADIC; Electronic Associates; the IBM 1130; Jason Scott's Get Lamp; and
our future museum plans. We'll announce those when they become official.
5. So far four exhibitors signed up. We expect 20-30 overall, in line
with our past VCF Easts.
6. We'll also have consignment sales, a used book sale, and museum tours.
7. This year's VCF East t-shirt will be AWESOME. The only way to get
one is to be there. :)
>> I was on the MSN team and we were building an AX.25 network
> Have you read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" ?
> What a mess. Apple was no better, though (eWorld, etc.) I don't
> remember much push for broadband as mentioned in "Barbarians"
I came from the academic side where Ethernet networking had been standard for some time by the mid-90's and getting networks of VAXen and Suns to interoperate was a breeze.
In contrast the mid-90's era focus by consumer OS's (read that as "Windows and bolt on products") on the modem as the lynchpin in networking, was simply bizarre to me.
By that time on PC-clones with MS-DOS we had been using the NCSA stack for Telnet and FTP and all the other good stuff, for many years. Completely stable and just worked. I was especially fond of a simple configuration of MS-DOS Kermit.
I was completely stumped by Windows 95 networking and Trumpet Winsock. They made it a zillion times harder. To this day whenever I have to configure Windows networking and am forced to click on all the variations of "No I don't have an ISP but I can still connect to the internet" I still become enraged.
Tim.
On 02/24/11 19:00, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
> On 2/24/11 2:58 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
>> > For me it sounds quite more interesting to format a tape on a normal drive - and then use it on a drive which has been adjusted to spin faster...:-)
>> >
> It shouldn't matter over the range that the G888A can decode it. DECtape uses Manchester encoding, so it is self-clocking.
Yes, but you need the clock track in order to write. So, read is
self-timed, and write is done with the help of the timing track.
And yes, the speed of the motor will affect how fast data comes in/out,
but only indirectly, since it's the clocking off the data from the tape
that matters. Tricks to increase speed would be to run an already
formatted tape faster or to format a tape at a slower speed.
Formatting a tape at a slower speed will also make it possible to fit
more data onto the tape (obviously).
> Head skew relative to the timing tracks becomes more of an issue, but even that was mitigated by putting redundant tracks
> on different parts of the tape and or-ing the heads together.
I'm not sure how much head skew could happen. The data from the tape is
read by just one head, with 10 tracks. So, the timing track is read at
the same point as the data.
You could possibly get some kind of skew if the signal was delayed
through the electronics.
> The trick with holding your thumb on the reel became necessary when DEC started shipping less tape on the reel than
> certain PDP-8 operating systems expected.
Yes...
Johnny
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Ian King <IanK at vulcan.com> wrote:
> Yes, Windows 95 was the first product to incorporate TCP/IP - and I remember the panic it caused. ?:-) ?I was on the MSN team and we were building an AX.25 network - but Bill Gates (quite correctly) saw that TCP/IP was going to quickly replace the telco-based POPs. ?We made the change to include TCP/IP "in the box" *in 1995*. ?We worked a lot.... ?-- Ian
I remember that transition. In 1994 and early 1995, I installed
Trumpet Winsock on a lot of Windows 3.1 machines. Unfortunately, even
up to the August release of Win95, the typical desktop for our users
was (admittedly obsolete by that time) a 386SX16 (Dell 316 or some
variety of Compaq box) with 2MB of RAM, no hard disk, a 10Mbit
Ethernet card, and booting off of a floppy to attach to a Novell
Netware server to load apps (Lotus 1-2-3, Word Perfect, e-mail
(DaVinci!), etc). The Novell servers, handling hundreds of users
each, were high-end Compaq 486 boxes with up to 64MB of memory and a
gig or two of disk. If you were blessed by the Network Engineer, your
login could be permitted to load the seat-license-locked TCP stack for
DOS/Novell and use Telnet and FTP.
I had a lot more fun in the science lab where the standard machine was
a Mac IIci or one of the SPARCstations (which had TCP/IP set up by
default).
But thank you, Ian, for your work. I did enjoy setting up TCP/IP out
of the box when Win95 came out, vs having to go get bits and have
grudging support from our Network guys about getting addresses, etc.
(they used to be *very* stingy with assigning out blocks of IP
addresses before the days of NAT Firewalls and private address space -
the proliferation of TCP/IP to every desk pushed that change).
-ethan
FYI
Lyle
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Subject: [TekScopes2] OT: FS. SETI Radio Astronomy Ground Station
Date: Thursday 24 February 2011, 20:43:17
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
To: hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com, Tekscopes2 at yahoogroups.com, Vintage-Military-RADAR at yahoogroups.com, AILtech at yahoogroups.com
CC: EIP_Microwave at yahoogroups.com, Watkins-Johnson at yahoogroups.com, ArmyRadios at yahoogroup.com, Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net, "Rachel Tortolini" <dr.rtortolini at gmail.com>
>From another list,
-John
=================
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: For Sale Ground station.
From: "Rachel Tortolini" <dr.rtortolini at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, February 24, 2011 8:07 pm
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Greetings:
I have a radio astronomy/seti/ground station for sale minus the antenna.
The equipment covers microwave to baseband and fft signal processing.
the equipment fills 12 six foot racks. (It covers 10 by 30 foot storage
locker. Must sell as I have Parkinson's Disease and must retire.
Anyone sincerely interested may contact me and a database can be sent with
pictures, etc. Location is Hawaii. You will need a mover but it is all
packed and ready to go. I am willing to negotiate price compensation for
your shipping cost.
Please contact me off-list.
Rachel
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--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Hi,
Found this out and thought I'd share it with the list (note I'll send the answer later after seeing the "guesses").
Q: How many DECTapes (images) can fit on a 1TB HDD?
(Also note, this is a "trick" question).
Have fun. It'll be interesting to see the answers! :-)
TTFN - Guy
Hi guys,
Seems the EEPROM which stores the MAC address in my HP 16500B logic
analyser has developed amnesia. That is to say, it forgets everything a
few days after being programmed, and as of today it won't even program
correctly.
Does anyone have a spare PLCC-packaged 28C16 EEPROM or two knocking
about? Ideally I'd like another of the original part, a Samsung
KM28C16J-20, which is specced for 200ns. A Catalyst/ONsemi CAT28C16 or
any of the many variants should also suffice...
My local supplier lists these as "special order only" -- with a ?16+VAT
charge to do so, a monstrous minimum order (something like 100 units)
and a three week factory lead time. I need maybe three of these at most...
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
Has anyone ever worked with a Radius Pivot monitor? I'm trying to get one
hooked up to a Mac IIci or IIsi but I need drivers and an appropriate
video card.
I'm pretty sure I have both but finding them at this point will be a major
pain. If anyone has the drivers handy, and can let me know what an
approproiate video card would be to interface the monitor to a Mac, I
would greatly appreciate the help.
Thanks!
--
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Forwarded for a friend...
Doc
Subject: Free To Good Homes: books of datasheets in Santa Cruz, CA
I've been alerted to free datasheets and other similar materials from the
1980s at UC Santa Cruz. The books are on the first floor of the Jack
Baskin Engineering building at UCSC.
Photos and more information are here:
http://bluebox.celestrion.net/ucsc-books/
--
Jonathan Patschke
At 07:58 AM 2/21/2011, Liam Proven wrote:
>Sniping subverts how auctions work.
In the average real-world auction that I'm accustomed to, at best
as a bidder you might need to register in advance. Once you're there,
there is no requirement to notify all other bidders of your interest
in an item. In fact, bidders tend to be quite subversive about their
interest in an item, so as not to draw attention to themselves, the
potentially more-valuable item, or their interest in it. You're
free to bid "in the last second." Yes, the auction continues at
that point, and that's different than eBay.
You're not just wishing for an auction format where all bidders
must make their presence known, and then a moment where no additional
bidders can register before bidding begins. You can't seriously
be wishing for an auction format where all other previous bidders
and their max price be known before you bid. We can't just wave
our hands and think that it would solve the problem if eBay extended
the auction N minutes beyond every moment there was a bid. That would
greatly encourage the demand for and use of automated bidding tools.
Part of the appeal for buyers and sellers on eBay is that you are
generally searching items you know will be for sale and that you
can bid on immediately. Would you be happier if multiple proxy
bidders all registered to bid and made some token bid just to
be part of the game?
- John
At 11:14 PM 2/3/2011, William Donzelli wrote:
>There is currently a pretty big PDP-11/44 collection on Ebay (just
>search for PDP-11/44). It is located in Milwaukee.
Item 130481622084 ? Only $500 so far? Nine days to go. Cheese,
it would be worth that even if you ground it up for gold scrap. :-)
I'm in the area but I don't know what I'd do with it or where to put it.
- John
>> But... electronic ballasts are switching devices and the current
>> is not steady-state. If twice the current flows for half the time,
>> then the power dissipation doubles (Remember, I-squared-R, you doubled
>> I, so I squared goes up by a factor of four.)
> Let's do the math. Suppose the current went from 0.5A to 4A.
> Probably, the 2A fuse in series with this thing would blow. If that
> didn't happen, the resistor would be called on to dissipate about 5W--
> on a transient basis, the resistor could handle this; on sustained
> basis, the resistor would overhead and discolor and the PC board
> would also be discolored. That didn't happen.
> The resistor is a plain-Jane 2W light-brown painted body with orange-
> orange-silver-gold markings. No letterings or other notations, no
> discoloring--just two paint chips missing from the body.
> I can post photos if you want.
You might have heard the rule of thumb that "in the case of an overcurrent
fault, the most expensive component in the circuit will burn out to protect
the fuse". That rule is only slightly facetious. In reality almost any component
(no matter what the $ value) will burn out to protect the fuse :-). You might
think I'm being facetious but I'm not!
I still suspect that, for example, bad bulbs or some other ballast failure had
taken out the resistor.
Fluorescent ballasts and CFL's are not known as places where manufacturers
spend many dollars on high quality components to increase lifetime and
decrease the possibility of failure.
Resistor wattage ratings are not always mathematically related to the maximum
voltage or current that you should put on/through the device. At the high ohm end
(say a 22MOhm 1/2W resistor, which would imply 3300 volts) the calculated voltages are
more than the bodies are rated for, and at the low ohm end (especially for
lowest-bidder resistors) there can be weak spots in film resistors that become
"hot spots" in transient overcurrents you might think the resistor should be able
to survive.
Good metal films can survive massive overload, and all they do is glow bright orange
and burn off their outer coatings. But I strongly hint above, that such good components
will not generally be found in ballasts or CFL's.
Tim.
Preferably *not* the low profile version (which means to me the models that don't have a built in monitor). But then again maybe I'd be better off, because those models had RGB video capability, IINM. I don't know, tell me what you got.
Also *still* looking for Atari ST/Mega/TT/Falcon stuff, working or not.
Does anyone know of the Atari ST related machine that had a built in monitor? Saw the thing on eBay ages ago, should have bid on it.
I hope that you can forgive the off-topic post, but I find myself in desperate need of a "diagnostic" key for a Sun Fire V880.
They're the same for all v880's but I can't get similar ones to fit.
I live in the uk and will willingly send beer vouchers in exchange.
-Austin.
Sent from my iPhone
Hi
Is me and Uncle Roger and the other dude in Italy the only ones w/these things? I have 2, but neither turn on. Anyone know what type of power it requires? I had thought these had color stn displays or something, but now I'm thinking they're just mono. Halp.
Hi! Several weeks ago there was a discussion on CCTALK about a free/open
SCSI to IDE and SD project. I designed a PCB using the Z53C80 and a Z80
with RAM/ROM/UART/IDE and SD. There is a prototype available waiting for
some interested builders to take on the project.
As far as I know none of the builders have a completed unit although I think
if we had at least one working unit the project would make some real
progress. I have four remaining SCSI to IDE/SD prototype boards so if
anyone would like to join the project as a software developer please let me
know. I believe much of the software can be reused from previous N8VEM
and/or other free/open software projects.
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/page/35044530/PCB-Inventory
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
I have a PDP 11/05 all dressed up and ready to go, stock config. Does
anyone have or be willing to make copies PDP 11/05 or 11/10 papetape
programs available? (diagnostics, assembler, editor, utilities). I have
an ASR 33 and the computer has 8K core.
Worst case I guess I could toggle in the code, then punch it for use next
time!
Bill Degnan
Chuck writes:
> I've been going over a small stack of failed T8 bulb solid-state
> fluorescent lamp ballasts from about the mid 90's. They all have the
> same failure and it suprised me.
>
> There's a 2W 0.33 ohm carbon film resistor used as a current sensing
> element. In all failure cases, the resistor has failed open, with no
> signs of burning, but rather the outer paint flaking off.
>
> To me, this is a puzzle. At 120v, the current through an 0.33 ohm
> resistance in series with a 64W load is about half an amp. I2R gives
> less than a tenth of a watt power dissipation across the resistor.
> (There's also a 2A fuse in series with the whole circuit).
>
> I replaced the failed resistors with 5W composition ones of the same
> value, and they seem to work okay.
>
> But the original failure has left me scratching my head. Does anyone
> have an insight on this type of failure?
If the current is steady-state, your math works out correctly.
But... electronic ballasts are switching devices and the current
is not steady-state. If twice the current flows for half the time,
then the power dissipation doubles (Remember, I-squared-R,
you doubled I, so I squared goes up by a factor of four.)
All that said, it has little to do with your electronic ballasts :-)
I betcha the original resistor was a fusible resistor
to begin with. SMPS 101: when you see a blown up or burnt out
component, you can bet that some other component failed
and took it out.
Typically a fusible resistor will heat up to mildly-red-hot before
it blows. Do the same with a non-fusible metal film and it'll be
fine (if discolored!).
Tim.
On un, 20 Feb 2011 17:13:54 -0800, Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> wrote:
[...]
> Digikey has a $25 minimum order.
Digikey killed their minimum some time ago. To quote from their "Digi-Key Web Site Terms of Use and Conditions of Order" <http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/mkt/Terms.html?WT.z_ref_page_id=sitemap_quant…> " 7. Handling Charge. There is no minimum order or handling fee."
However, where something like the socket could be shipped US Mail for under a dollar, they stick the item in a box and UPS it for over US$ 6...
CRC
This may seem off-topic at first, but I realize that folks here do
SMPSU repair a lot. My thought was that it might be applicable,
since they're basically the same thing--the ballast runs the lamps
with a 30-40KHz AC voltage.
I've been going over a small stack of failed T8 bulb solid-state
fluorescent lamp ballasts from about the mid 90's. They all have the
same failure and it suprised me.
There's a 2W 0.33 ohm carbon film resistor used as a current sensing
element. In all failure cases, the resistor has failed open, with no
signs of burning, but rather the outer paint flaking off.
To me, this is a puzzle. At 120v, the current through an 0.33 ohm
resistance in series with a 64W load is about half an amp. I2R gives
less than a tenth of a watt power dissipation across the resistor.
(There's also a 2A fuse in series with the whole circuit).
I replaced the failed resistors with 5W composition ones of the same
value, and they seem to work okay.
But the original failure has left me scratching my head. Does anyone
have an insight on this type of failure?
--Chuck
I don't know if this is totally off base for this list. If so I apologise.
Anyway, it is "related to classic computers" (just) somehow.
I have the following books available for the cost of postage:
Oracle8i DBA Bible, with CD. IDG Books 2000, 1115 pages
Oracle8.0.4 for Windows NT: Getting started
Oracle7.3.4 Server for Windows NT: Getting started
Oracle Designer/2000 Rel. 2.1 installation guide
Oracle Network Products 2.3.4/Windows installation guide
Oracle Net8 rel 8 for Windows NT, 95: Getting started
They are in decent condition. The last one has some coffee stains.
I live in Sweden/Gothenburg.
Jonas
Working on my 701c Thinkpad I destroyed an 18 pin DIP socket (surface mount) that connects the modem card to the main motherboard. Anybody have something like this or know where to get one (checked ebay)? All the pads are still intact so soldering in another one will not be a problem.
it doesn't have to work even. Just in good shape. Keyboard and monitor not needed either. Heck even an empty case would work. The expansion box would too in fact!
I have an ASR 43 teletype machine (though you could arguably call it a
"classic" teletype as it uses a dot matrix print head and lacks that classic
teletype sound) and I'm looking for the matching paper tape punch/reader
that was made for it. There isn't much information about it online but the
model for it is M42, M43, M4350, or something similar. It looks like a
sophisticated Dust Buster.
http://www.baudot.net/teletype/pics/M43-Paper-Tape-Unit-1.jpg
What are the chances anyone might happen to have one squirreled away? I want
to try a couple programs on my PDP and print out some test tapes for a
reader built for a TRS-80 model 1.
John
Anyone familiar w/this unit? The power switch in the back won't stay engaged (you press, and it clicks, and power comes on, but it pops back out, and monitor shuts off). I imagine there's probably a part # on the switch, but I forgot to look this afternoon. Asked in case anyone's familiar w/it.
Hi guys,
Does anyone have a HP 16500B logic analyser with a 16500L LAN card
installed?
The EEPROM on my card seems to have been hosed, and now the analyser is
refusing to boot, instead opting to display the message "Corrupted LAN
Board! LAN not functional".
The chip is a Samsung KM28C16, PLCC packaged, sitting next to the I/O
connector on the LAN card.
If anyone has an EPROM programmer kicking around, I could really use a
dump of a known-good EEPROM, or alternatively a replacement 16500H or
16500L LAN card if someone has one in a parts-mule 16500A or 16500B
mainframe.
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
A few of you might have noticed some recent problems with the classiccmp server ;)
The machine has six 300gb hard drives. Two are PATA, and set up as a mirror that contains just the OS and mailing list. The remaining four are sata and set up as a zfs raidz pool.
One of the two drives in the OS mirror failed. That did not cause downtime of course, but I noticed it when the other failure occured.
One of the drives in the raidz set (websites, user data, etc.) also failed. Because it's raidz, that shouldn't have caused a problem. However, it marked the raidz set as failed and wouldn't mount it, saying there was not enough drives left in the set. I can only guess this was a bug in zfs on that system.
Thanks to hard work from Ryan, the machine is back up. Basically he pulled dd images of the remaining drives in the zfs set, imported them into zfs on one of his machines and the data re-appeared. A two drive mirror was set up on the remaining working drives and then all the data copied back. This took a few days due to the volume of data and network links. I thought that was the end of the problems. But no......
Once the machine was back up, someone said websites were up but no mailing list (I had verified that it was back up after the data re-import). Checking again, now the last drive in the OS mirror is having read errors and is probably going to fail soon. No other systems in our datacenter are having issues like this, so I suspect it's not power related.
Long story short, the machine is back up, all website/user data is restored, and there's no loss of data. However, I can't be sure it will stay up with an OS hard drive mirror set where one drive is dead and the remaining drive is having lots of read errors.
My plan is to go buy six new sata drives for the server, probably 1tb's, plus a 4 port sata controller. I'd prefer to buy the drives new rather than take drives as donations just due to the above issues and time constraints. I found some seagate sata3 1tb 32mb cache drives for $60 each plus tax. Adaptec 1420sa controller is about $90, so the total is about $450. If anyone cares to donate to help cover the purchase, paypal jwest at classiccmp.org
Now I just have to find another machine to move the list & web content off to, rebuild the classiccmp server, and move everything back :)
Jay
Hey, all, especially those in Seattle with old Apple gear:
Seattle Repertory Theatre is producing "The Agony And Ecstacy Of Steve
Jobs", a show by Mike Daisey about Apple's and Jobs' various trials and
tribulations over the years. They're hoping to put together a lobby
display of several of Apple's old hardware. To that end, they're looking
for gear to borrow between mid-April and late May; and to show their
appreciation they're offering free tickets for the production and "your
picture hanging proudly next to your relic" (assuming you're interested
in that, o'course).
Their wish list includes:
-an Apple II, IIe and/or IIc;
-an Apple III;
-a Lisa;
-a Mac Classic, Mac SE/30, or similar;
-Macintosh Portable (1989 vintage);
-an early PowerBook, preferably 100 series;
-a Quadra;
-Newton MessagePad;
-QuickTake, an early Apple digital camera;
-20th Anniversary iMac, circa 1997;
-iMac G3;
-an early Apple flat panel display, circa 1998-2001-ish;
-Power Mac G4 cube;
-G4 Powerbook; and
-a NeXT workstation (though I think a NeXTcube would work too).
Though they didn't list it, I have to think that an Apple I would also be
extremely welcome. In fact, I think the only reason they didn't put it on
their list is because actually _finding_ one seems so unlikely. :)
...Anyway, if you're in or near Seattle and have some of this gear and
want to support the arts and/or get your gear displayed publicly and/or
want free theatre tickets, or if you have further questions, feel free to
e-mail the Rep at <info at seattlerep.org>.
Feel free to forward or repost.
-O.-
Well I certainly can't say this evening wasn't entertaining.
Got the HP 16500B out of the cupboard. Powered on to a screen of random
lines. Turns out the "base" (Bank0) RAM SIMM had slipped out of the
mounting. Power off, all the blades out, push it back in, power on.
SYSTEM SELF TEST FAILED: SEE SERVICE MANUAL
System board: FAILED
Touch screen: IMPAIRED
Base RAM: FAILED
Oh joy. Cleaning the (rather dusty) touchscreen surround sorted the
touch screen. Reseating the other SIMM sorted the Sysboard failure, but
the memory test kept failing. Swapped both SIMMs for a 64MB set I had
kicking around -- thus giving me a 64MB HP 16500B. Powered back up,
"SELF TEST PASSED, LOADING SYSTEM SOFTWARE." Now we're getting somewhere.
Or not.
"Corrupted LAN Board! LAN Not Functional!"
So evidently the 28C16 parallel EEPROM on the 16500L LAN card has
developed a case of amnesia (that's if the Random Lines Event didn't
nuke it). I got to the System screen, but the 16555D isn't triggering,
and trying to configure the Ethernet adapter hard-crashes the analyser.
Does anyone happen to have a dump of the 28C16 EEPROM on a 16500L LAN
card, or even a spare 16500H or 16500L card?
Or an E2479A 16500A/B --> 16500C upgrade kit... or the bits of a 16500C
needed to upgrade a 16500B... I think I'll stop there :P
Apparently you need HP-specific Factory Test software to reprogram the
EEPROM, which was AIUI never released outside of HP. I figure it should
be possible to reprogram the chip with a couple of wires, some solder,
and a 28pin turned-pin DIP socket, but I need a known-good image first.
So anyway, I figured I'd try and soldier on and figure out what was
wrong with the 386 motherboard. In with the POST card... yep, still
dying at checkpoint code 06, which basically means the BIOS couldn't
read the shutdown register in the RTC. Off with the old RTC socket, a
quick clean up with Flux-off, and under the microscope it goes.
I started tracing the under-chip tracks out, following them with the tip
of a mechanical pencil. Until, that is, one of them crumbled... Hmm.
Copper isn't supposed to do that. Out with the Xacto. Scrape off the
solder resist... hmm, black fuzz, but no copper?! Apparently the battery
did more damage than I thought!
Eventually I found a total of three broken or damaged tracks, all on the
data bus. I bridged them with Roadrunner wire (really thin enamelled
copper wire, like transformer wire). In goes the new socket and....
0d : 0c
Hmm, still no go. So I pulled the RTC chip, put it dead-bug style on the
desk, and started looking at the tracks again. And then I saw it, out of
the corner of my eye...
The VCC pin had broken off the RTC chip. So what did I do? I fixed it.
I took a fresh turned-pin IC socket, and inserted a piece of 22SWG
tinned copper wire into the top-right corner socket (i.e. VCC). Clipped
it back to ~5mm, then put the socket to one side. Next, I used a
triangular needle file to cut a notch into the plastic of the chip,
right above the VCC pin stub. A bit of scratching with the Xacto got me
enough Vcc pin stub to solder a wire to. Lightly tinned the VCC stub,
just for good measure.
RTC chip goes into the socket, and the stub was soldered to the 5mm VCC
wire. Into the motherboard it goes. POST card in, speaker (on POST card)
connected, power on.
0201... 0605... 0d0c... 1F1E... lots of hex numbers... 403F...
*BEEP BEEP* dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit
So it's just passed the chipset and base hardware tests, proven that the
mainboard and chipset are alive... and emitted two beeps for a fatal
error, and eight error ID beeps. Quick look up... that's a Video RAM R/W
Test error, which makes sense because there kinda-sorta isn't a video
card plugged in... or anything besides the POST card for that matter.
It's at about this point I shouted "King of the lab!". My mother poked
her head around the door and gave me a very strange look....
So yeah, the 386 board is basically fixed. I need to hunt down a case
for it (the K6 board is inhabiting the 386's old case). I might chuck
the thing in the dishwasher to clean off the last bits of dirt and
fluff, but at this point it's working and I'm happy. Or I would be if Ye
Olde HP Boat Anchor hadn't picked tonight to turn its toes up... Guess
you can't win all the time :(
And if you question why I call it a boat-anchor, you've obviously never
tried to move a 16500B... :)
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
This group seems strangely quiet. I hope nothing bad has happened!
BTW, I realize that none of my posts are all that important. However, I
do find it curious that I usually see my own posts only if someone else
comments on something I said. Does anyone else have this problem and/or
does anyone know of a setting I need to change to correct this?
Thanks,
Charlie C.
I rescued one of these ancient Bernoulli boxes today. It uses the large
(8") cartridges at 20MB each, and it has two slots for the cartridges.
Other than for hearing some of the folklore about the drives, I don't
know much about it. I'd like to see it run and be usable, but I need
some help.
- Is it SCSI? If so, what's the pinout on the back? It has a 37 pin
female connector that I'm not familiar with if it is SCSI.
- Where is the head mechanism? Is it fairly robust and protected if
there are no cartridges inserted? This one has no major dents, but it
has not been babied either. I don't want to waste time on it if it's
just going to be a heartache. (I have enough of that already.)
- Cartridges look like they are on eBay. They are cheap enough for me
to experiment with.
- Is there anything I should know about these beasts before I attempt
powering on and working with it?
Thanks,
Mike
>
> Now for the speakers ...
> http://www.decware.com/newsite/homepage.html
> If you need details on 1KW speakers, just email them for advice.
> Ben.
> PS. Remember 500 watts or more will kill small rodents.
>
Nice!
I think I will have to stay well below 1 kW though, tempting though it may
be. I live in an apartment and using that kind of gear would probably a)
kill the cat b) get me tarred and feathered and run out of town ;-)
Jonas
I cleared out most of my MAC/APPLE Stuff awhile ago but I just found
this on the Shelf
MCD 800K 3.5 floppy drive for MAC. I've seen some discussions on 3.5
Floppy drives.
Is this any use to anyone
Bob in Wisconsin
?
Thanks to all who have shown an interest, the Alpha has already been claimed.
?
Dale
--- On Fri, 2/18/11, Alan Perry <alanp at snowmoose.com> wrote:
From: Alan Perry <alanp at snowmoose.com>
Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1000A
To: indiviniti at yahoo.com
Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 12:06 AM
Where is it?
On 2/17/11 8:02 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Subject: AlphaServer 1000A
> To:cctalk at classiccmp.org,chiclassiccomp at yahoogroups.com
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> DEC AlphaServer 1000A?pedestal server, in good shape, working state unknown,
> but likely does.? Alpha VMS or Tru64 UNIX CD's with apps likely available as well.
> Let me know asap if anyone is interested.? Ths is being cleared out of an old DEC
> logistics site early this week.
> Roger Ivie [rivie at ridgenet.net] wrote:
>
>> During development of VAXBI, we were told (by the folks
>> working on it) that it was A) not going to be VAX-specific
>> (DEC was moving MIPSward at the time) and B) would be open.
>>
>> We were a bit startled when it was announced as "VAXBI".
>
> It was never open (in the way that UNIBUS was) but it wasn't VAX-only
> as the DECsystem 5800 (iirc) used it too.
>
> Antonio
If I remember correctly there was $250,000 license fee for the "BI
Corner" if you wanted to design your own BI board.
That doessn't sound open to me.
--
Michael Thompson
I was given this a few months ago and finally had the time this evening to look
it over. I was told it was fully functional when removed from service last
year. It's in outstanding clean condition and both bays are fully loaded with
fast/wide differential SCSI hard drive modules. It is located in Washington, PA
15301 and is FREE for pick up. I prefer that it leaves here complete, but if
there are no takers then I will consider parting it out.
I found the Installation/Service Manual here
http://www.dectrader.com/docs/set2/emr_na-lpg28396-1.pdf and everything you
need to know about this beast is in there.
The following modules are installed:
Qty Item
--- ----
2 fan modules
6 2.0GB DF 7200 Disk Module (Seagate ST32171DC)
1 18.2GB DF 7200 Disk Module (Seagate ST118273WC)
2 A3538-67002 Power Module (equivalent to A3538-69002)
Also included is the bay to bay SCSI cable and the SCSI wide differential
terminator.
Please reply to whdawson at my gmail.com address. d8^)
Bill
Hi! One of the N8VEM builders is interested in making a JUPITER ACE board.
He is making a PCB and assessing how many builders would be interested in
the PCB.
I have little information on JUPITER ACE but it appears to be a small Z80
based SBC which uses Forth.
It generates its own video signal and has a keyboard interface.
If you are interested in such a board please contact me or let us know on
the N8VEM mailing list.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Hi! One of the N8VEM builders is interested in making a JUPITER ACE board.
He is making a PCB and assessing how many builders would be interested in
the PCB.
I have little information on JUPITER ACE but it appears to be a small Z80
based SBC which uses Forth.
It generates its own video signal and has a keyboard interface.
If you are interested in such a board please contact me or let us know on
the N8VEM mailing list.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:50:02 -0400
From: William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone off to VCF-UK
>> And I'm telling you that in all my VCF experience, including as the *
>> organizer * of four very successful editions, I've found that people
>> (attendees and exhibitors alike) go because they relish the community
>> aspects. ?Sure it's fun to show off your exhibit, but most people get the
>> most kicks from meeting their fellow collectors, etc.
>Like any show - computers, cars, dogs, model trains, stamps, sex toys
>- always far more social than stuff-oriented.
>Sure, the "stuff" is important, but I would bet you could hold a very
>good VCF with *nobody* bringing *any* machines.
>Just make sure you get enough pizzas and beer.
--
>Will
-------------------
Of course many people go to this sort of thing for the social aspect and
hang out on here for the same reason, but why are some people on here so
deeply offended when someone like Tony says that he wouldn't care to spend
time and money just to have some pizza and beer, especially considering the
way he's been treated here by some of the folks he'd be eating and drinking
with. Frankly, although I'm sure that most people on here are nice folks,
there's only a handful with whom I think I'd have much in common and would
spend time and money to hang out with and listen to if there weren't
something else that interested me (especially since I don't drink beer or
eat pizza).
Having read some of these comments and especially the sentiment that unless
you're a "celebrity" who cares what you have to contribute, I'm thinking the
same as Tony, namely why am I wasting my time here? I've got friends who
share my interests and there aren't any ignorant jerks like Evan among them
nor do they tell me to fuck off; maybe it really is time to rent a dumpster
and just toss in those Cromemcos, Vector Graphics, PETs, AIM65s and the
25-odd boxes of manuals and documentation that are taking up space just in
case someone might want or need something one day; with a couple of
exceptions they certainly aren't any use to me.
Something to think about for sure; I may end up actually thanking Evan one
day for finally showing me the light.
I have been working on a 4010 and the wiring color code is
listed in numbers. Do they have a standard color to number
chart ?? I have the manuals just cant find anything on this.
As luck would have it. I removed a 2 wire connector from
the power supply then noticed there is more that 1 set of
matching in the area.
- Thanks, Jerry
Hi, All,
I have a few DEC BC13J-08, new-in-bag, and not sure if I'd ever use
any. I'm guessing there was some form of DEC Mux or terminal server
that used RJ45s, but that gear would be out of the range of what I
have worked with (I'm quite familiar with DZ11s, DMF32s, Emulex CS21s,
etc)
All the DEC-compatible modular serial gear I have is mid-1980s Nevada
Western RJ11 stuff. I have more modern Cisco RJ45 serial stuff,
naturally, but all I could find on the 'net about the DEC BC13J-08 was
offers to sell (for about $15-$30 each!) Obviously I could open a bag
and run the eight lines with a continuity checker, but it'd be nice to
find some docs to save the time.
Thanks for any insight as to what these were used with.
-ethan
> In addition, while I could easily afford a modern printer to transplant
> into the 4631 case, why should I when I have a perfectly good printer
> already, plugged into my PC?
> I'd prefer to take the raster image and save it in a suitable file
> format (TIFF?) for putting on a PC and printing on any old printer.
> This would make it much more flexible, and I think it would be of
> benefit to do so.
If a graphics file is the end format, it seems to me the easy way out
Is to use a modern PC running Tek 4010/4014 emulation software (anything
>From MS-Kermit to xterm) sniffing the serial traffic and just do
screen dumps from there.
For the vector purists (e.g. me) making SVG or Postscript or PDF or some
True vector format, would be a desirable goal. But with endpoint resolution
Only 1024x768 probably overkill. I still hate seeing what I know are
True vector lines, get rasterized.
Tim.
> It could be the chip, certainly, I doubt it's the windings. IIRC the
> widings are connected in a 'star' ('Wye') configuration to the 3 outputs,
> see the HP drive schemcatics I pointed you to for details. If I cam
> right, you could check the resistance between the 3 motor driver ouptus
> (6,7,9) with the drive power remoced, they should all appaer to be
> shorted to each other.
Tony I've looked through past emails and can't seem to find those schematics. Can you point me to them again?
The motor driver output pins are not QUITE shorted. There is about 25 ohms resistance showing which flickers between 20 and 30 as I turn the wheel? Normal?
> However, it's also ppossibloe that one of the hall sensors has failed.
> Theseare little 4 terminal parts that detelct the position of the motor
> and cause the chip to drive the rigth coils. IIRC, they are connected to
> pins 15,16,1,2,3,4[1] of the chip. With the motor supposed to be stopped,
> connect a voltbeeter between grounf and each of those pins (if I have
> rememebred them right, checkl the data sheet) in turn and slowly turn the
> spidnle. You should see a samll change in voltage for each pin, it shoud
> 'flick' up and down as you turn the spindle. If one or two are not doing
> this, suspect the hall device.
I've found them. On this TA7259P they are pins 1-4 and 13, 14. The voltages do show a variation as the spindle turns. But it's very small. About 0.03 volts and that variation is consistant over all 6 of them. The voltages differ. Pins 1 and 2 are 6.5, pins 3 and 4 are 4.3 and pins 13 and 14 are 8.4v
> [1] Be careful with the pin mubmbering if you are working from one of my
> HP drive scheramtics. I said the chip has 14 pins and 2 tabs. Toshiba say
> th chip has 16 pins, including the tabs. So the pin numbers are
> different.
The chip I have has 14 pins.
> I notce that one of the screews was badly corroded. Is there any damage
> to the PCB tracks in that area? An open connection could account for your
> problems.
>
The screw is rusty but the PCB tracks are actually in very good condition. There are no shorts.
> One question for you. Where does the white wire from thr motor connector
> go? Is it soldered to some point o nthe bototm of the PCB, if so, where?
No not soldered to the board. The white wire joins the other wires from the two motor board connectors and goes into an 8-pin socket which plugs into the top of the bottom circuit board. The pins for this can be seen standing upright on the mid-bottom left on the board:
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/temp/lisa2-10-bottom-of-drive-circuit-b…
The white wire goes to pin 8 which is the pin nearest the bottom (i.e south) of the picture.
Well, what do you think Tony? I've found a place in HongKong I can get these TA 7259P ICs for $20 (incl shipping). The IC or the hall sensors? Are there any other tests I can do?
I appreciate the detailed help you're giving me here.
Terry
DEC AlphaServer 1000A?pedestal server, in good shape, working state unknown,
but likely does.? Alpha VMS or Tru64 UNIX CD's with apps likely available as well.
Let me know asap if anyone is interested.? Ths is being cleared out of an old DEC
logistics site early this week.
?
Dale
____________________________________________________________________________________
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
This is aimed at all the folks who bought a DiscFerret with 001B
firmware... and has been cross-posted to classiccmp because I know there
are a few DiscFerret owners who don't follow the official mailing list.
There's a fairly nasty bug in the USB stack on firmware version 001B.
This bug causes the DiscFerret to stop responding under some conditions:
- When the power cable is plugged in before the USB cable.
- When the USB cable is unplugged, then reconnected while the
DiscFerret is powered up. ("hot plugging")
Basically, there's a logic error in the Microchip USB stack which causes
it to enter an infinite loop whenever the PIC boots without the USB
cable connected, or when the USB cable is disconnected mid-way through a
USB packet.
In the latter case, the USB PHY/SIE module in the PIC gets out of sync
with the host, and fails to re-synchronise when the host is reconnected.
The solution is to upgrade to Firmware 001C. This is available from
<http://www.discferret.com/downloads/>.
In simple terms:
- Short the BOOT jumper on the DiscFerret
- Connect the power supply and USB cable (in any order)
- Remove the jumper
- Run mphidflash to reprogram the PIC (the exact command line to use
is on the Downloads page).
The whole procedure can be done in a few minutes. If you've ever
reflashed a PC BIOS, you'll have no trouble upgrading the firmware on a
DiscFerret.
Any problems -- feel free to email me, or post on Discferret-L.
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
Hi guys,
I've just spent an hour or so fixing more bugs in the DiscFerret
microcode. Turns out the hard-sector track mark detector I was so
pleased with... didn't actually work. What's that old saying about pride
coming right before a fall?
Anyway -- it's fixed now, along with a few other bugs. Basically, I
screwed up the logic which generates the 250us and 500us master clocks,
meaning the step rates were about 2x too fast. I'm surprised my drives
managed to keep up at the rate the DiscFerret was stepping them (1.5ms a
step for the 3.5in drive!)
I've done some tests with a 10-sector NorthStar disc, and managed to get
a valid read. Next up is adding NorthStar support to the disc analyser,
but that's going to have to wait until next weekend...
There's also a new feature in Mcode 001F -- index speed measurement.
This is essentially a frequency counter tied to the INDEX pin. With
this, you can measure the rotational speed of the disc -- which could be
useful for testing disc drives, and adjusting the rotational speed of
the spindle motor (on drives which have such adjustments).
The new registers have been added to the current 'TIP' version of the C
API, and the Python API (which still lives in the firmware repository,
under the 'test' directory).
As always, if you have any questions, ask away -- either on Classiccmp
(cctalk or cctech), discferret-l, or the Vintage Computer Forums (though
you may well have to PM me to get my attention!)
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
Hi! Professor Wilcox is selling his historical S-100 68000 CPU board and
associated material. Please contact him if interested. This is a unique
set of boards and material. If I had the funds I would purchase these
myself but cannot so hopefully someone in the classic/vintage/homebrew
computer community would like these unique historical artifacts.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan D. Wilcox [mailto:alan at wilcoxengineering.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:28 PM
To: Andrew Lynch
Subject: Re: Andrew - trying to reach you - ADVTG
Hi Andrew,
You're a lot more familiar than I am as to what might appeal. Perhaps if
you could please place a couple postings that might read something like
the following, I might find a happy home for it all.
"Unique 68000 S-100 CPU board and assorted other boards and engineering
notes for sale. The board is the design feature of my 68000 book
published in 1987. Photos and details at
http://wilcoxengineering.com/68000-microprocessor - I can provide more
specifics for serious inquiries only. Will not split; this special
historical collection stays together. Contact me through the site. Alan
Wilcox, W3DVX."
Send me links of where I can see whatever you put up. Hopefully we'll
have some serious folks calling.
Many thanks!
Alan :)
Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.comhttp://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 ... Elecraft Client Comments
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/8841 . Small Wonder Labs Comments
http://eBookEditor.nethttps://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062?ref=awilcox
Williamsport, PA 17701
All --
I?m working on making a version of TinyBASIC available on the N8VEM
80188 board (like IBM ROM BASIC) and I?m looking for generic code to read
and write Intel Hex records. The plan is to use this for the file format for
storing BASIC programs on cassette. I?ve done some Googling and most of what
I find is complete conversion programs rather than the code fragments that I
need.
If anyone has any useful links on this topic I?d appreciate it. Thanks!
Rich
--
Rich Cini
Collector of Classic Computers
Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
http://www.altair32.comhttp://www.classiccmp.org/cini
Tony Duell wrote:
>>
>> That makes no sense.
>> sniping does not drive up prices like early bidding does.
>>
> Of coursei it does. If I (early bid) $50 for an item with an opening bid
> of $5, say, and somebody snipes me at the last minute with a $20 bid,
> then the price I have to pay has been driven up.
I think that's a bit contrived Tony - after all _any_ later bid would drive
up the price you have to pay, this isn't a function of sniping.
Bob