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Free + shipping: IBM 4245 Printer manual

by silent700＠gmail.com

"IBM 4245 Printer, Models D12 and D20 Information Manual" Second Edition (July 1986) Good condition; hole-punched on left side and stapled twice. Could be unstapled for automatic scanning. Sent for the cost of shipping from 60074.

17 years, 1 month

Bad MAK file help

by rcini＠optonline.net

All: I?m trying to build this 32-bit debugger program (using MASM on MSDOS 6) and it doesn?t build anything past the first obj file. I?ve spent a while playing around with this and I can?t readily see what?s wrong ? probably my unfamiliarity with manual MAK files. Can someone take a quick look at this and let me know what?s wrong? Thanks! #make file for the debugger OBJ1=dbisr.obj dbinit.obj dbvid.obj dbcmd.obj dbedit.obj dbdbreg.obj dbmain.obj dbsupt.obj dbint9.obj AINC=dbequ.inc dbstruc.inc dbdat.inc dbpdat.inc dbmac.inc .asm.obj: masm $*; # ASM Sources dbisr.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbinit.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbvid.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbcmd.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbedit.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbdbreg.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbmain.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbsupt.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbint9.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) # Executable db.exe: $(OBJ1) link @db.lnk Rich -- Rich Cini Collector of Classic Computers Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator http://www.altair32.com http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp

17 years, 1 month

Now I need some OS/8 experts...

by bqt＠softjar.se

Charles <charlesmorris at hughes.net> skrev: > Now that OS/8 is running on my 8/A, RL02 system, I find I'm in > need of some more detailed help. Although I'm wading through the > 900+ pages of the "OS/8 Handbook" (and the Device Extensions > document which at least addresses RL01's), I'm having a problem > adding device handlers as follows. > > When I built the OS/8 image, it looks like I added only one RL02 > partition (here is the current BUILD printout): > >> sim> bo rl >> >> .SET SYS NOINIT >> >> .RUN SYS BUILD >> >> $PR >> >> BAT : *BAT >> KL8E: *TTY >> LPSV: *LPT >> RK05: *RKA0 *RKB0 *RKA1 *RKB1 RKA2 RKB2 RKA3 RKB3 >> RX02: *RXA0 *RXA1 >> TD8A: *DTA0 *DTA1 >> R2SY: *SYS *R20A >> >> DSK=R2SY:R20A >> $ > > Doing a DIR shows "118 Files in 2517 Blocks - 1515 Free Blocks", > or ~4000 total blocks on the disk, which is also consistent with > one RL02 partition (A=40%,B=40%,C=20%) of the total 10000 free > blocks. > > The RKB0: Diagnostic Pack has several handlers including: > RL2SY.BH (which is what I am using), and also RL20.BH, RL21.BH, > and RL2E.BH (not sure what that one is). > > But any attempt to LOAD RKB0:RL20.BH (for example) causes SIMH to > stop with a "HALT instruction, PC: 20100 (ISZ 122)" message. I > tried removing R2SY: entirely (after setting SYS to RKA0:) and > still it won't work when trying to install other RL handlers. > > Also when reloading it will only allow n=1 (platter) which I > suppose is correct. This may be why I only have one partition. I > did this over a year ago and don't remember all the details. > ANY ideas how to install the next partitions (R20B and C)? > > Also, since I am planning on adding a second RL02 drive, I will > need (I think) R21A, B, C to appear in the active list. Is it even > possible to add a second RL02 under OS/8? > > The C partitions aren't really necessary and are slow. I doubt I > will ever get close to filling up even the A and B's (8 Mb per > pack).... They way you talk about this makes it sound like you're thinking of RL01 drives here. Are you aware of the fact that the RL02 will appear as five drives to OS/8? RLnA to RLnE? Apart from that, I can't help you at the moment. My PDP8 systems are all offline, and have been for a couple of years now. Although I have a real 8/A with RL02 drives, which do work. Too long for my memory to be fresh on this one. Build have always been a bit magical... :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 1 month

hey, a digest reader has an eBay feedback comment!

by classiccmp＠memory-alpha.org.uk

Hi, > On the buying side, I also have a good suggestion - so much of the >buying on eBay these days is facilitated through PayPal (50 % or >better?). As a result, eBay knows when a seller has been paid. So >why not give automatic positive feedback. I mean, what really would >a seller have to say after the buyer pays? I can tell you what a seller might have to say.... I had a case of a US buyer paying immediately for an auction he'd won, but the postage specified was for UK delivery and there was a clear instruction for international buyers to contact me prior to sending payment for postage costs. Needless to say, he refused to pay the extra few pounds for postage. But instead of emailing me to arrange to back out of the deal so I could offer it to the next bidder, he contacts eBay and PayPal and has PayPal freeze my account because I'd allegedly ripped HIM off and didn't have the item I'd auctioned! I got the last laugh though. To get PayPal to reinstate my account I had to provide them with a tracking number for the parcel....the amount I'd charged for postage just barely covered surface mail to his location, which would take 12 weeks to get there....!!!! LMAO! Outside of a couple of non-paying bidders, that was the only time I've been forced to leave negative feedback. But unfortunately, there are some real aholes out there. :-( TTFN - Pete.

17 years, 1 month

1000+ old computer in Canada, for sale

by g-wright＠att.net

Just north of the border. 3+ hours from Seattle with good traffic and border lines. Just loading that much stuff would be a major under taking. I did talk to a local scraper here in Seattle but so far, He is not interested. I also have a complete Canon AS-100 that works. - Jerry -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> > > > > > Are there any listers in Seattle that'd be > > willing to take a drive up > > > > to the warehouse and give us a better look-see > > at the contents? > > How close is this place to Seattle? (<<too lazy to > map it). Transportation is one thing - where are > *y'all* gonna bloody well store all the stuff? He > really should allow people to come in and cherry pick > what they want, he'd make more money that way > undoubtedly. And what's a 1000+ lot of that old stuff > worth anyway? As a bulk deal a few grand... > BUT...if anyone finds a Canon AS-100 in the_pile, > consider it claimed :). My up and coming baby is going > to need some company before too long ;). Man it's been > too long a wait, but the day is approaching... > Oh by the way I could be in Seattle in 5-7 weeks... > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

17 years, 1 month

Real DEC Keyboard (Was: C.Itoh keyboard repair)

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

Mark Wickens wrote: > Jonathan, > > This is what an LK201 supplied with VT220 terminals looks like on the inside: > > http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/public-gallery/LK201 > > Each key has a 'leafspring' mechanism. Not what I was expecting anyway... > > Mark. > Looking at those pictures, it seems the CIT-220+ keyboard is not all that dissimilar in electrical design from the DEC one. It uses the same kind of leaf switches but mounted in a completely different way, and the leaves themselves don't act as electrical contacts on the CIT one, just as secondary springs to push the thin contact plates. If I remember correctly, the CIT keys look sort of like this if chopped in half down the middle: II-||-II ICLKK I ICLKK I _CLSS _ |C LS | -------- D where C is the contact plate assembly S is the main spring K is the bottom of the key plunger L is the leaf spring _ is the place where the key plastic comes into two halves I is the tab which holds the bottom half onto the top half - is the bottom of the key D is the solder tabs for the contact plate | are the walls of the bottom part of the key The leaf springs look like this if zoomed in, if I remember right: side: | | < \ \ front: _______ |_ _| | | | | |_._| / _ \ |_/ \_| I also worked out the complete key matrix for the CIT keyboard at one point, I'll see if I can find it. Jonathan Gevaryahu jzg22 at drexel.edu

17 years, 1 month

Now I need some OS/8 experts...

by charlesmorris＠hughes.net

Now that OS/8 is running on my 8/A, RL02 system, I find I'm in need of some more detailed help. Although I'm wading through the 900+ pages of the "OS/8 Handbook" (and the Device Extensions document which at least addresses RL01's), I'm having a problem adding device handlers as follows. When I built the OS/8 image, it looks like I added only one RL02 partition (here is the current BUILD printout): >sim> bo rl > >.SET SYS NOINIT > >.RUN SYS BUILD > >$PR > >BAT : *BAT >KL8E: *TTY >LPSV: *LPT >RK05: *RKA0 *RKB0 *RKA1 *RKB1 RKA2 RKB2 RKA3 RKB3 >RX02: *RXA0 *RXA1 >TD8A: *DTA0 *DTA1 >R2SY: *SYS *R20A > >DSK=R2SY:R20A >$ Doing a DIR shows "118 Files in 2517 Blocks - 1515 Free Blocks", or ~4000 total blocks on the disk, which is also consistent with one RL02 partition (A=40%,B=40%,C=20%) of the total 10000 free blocks. The RKB0: Diagnostic Pack has several handlers including: RL2SY.BH (which is what I am using), and also RL20.BH, RL21.BH, and RL2E.BH (not sure what that one is). But any attempt to LOAD RKB0:RL20.BH (for example) causes SIMH to stop with a "HALT instruction, PC: 20100 (ISZ 122)" message. I tried removing R2SY: entirely (after setting SYS to RKA0:) and still it won't work when trying to install other RL handlers. Also when reloading it will only allow n=1 (platter) which I suppose is correct. This may be why I only have one partition. I did this over a year ago and don't remember all the details. ANY ideas how to install the next partitions (R20B and C)? Also, since I am planning on adding a second RL02 drive, I will need (I think) R21A, B, C to appear in the active list. Is it even possible to add a second RL02 under OS/8? The C partitions aren't really necessary and are slow. I doubt I will ever get close to filling up even the A and B's (8 Mb per pack).... Thanks for any help. -Charles

17 years, 1 month

Dolch Ruggedized laptop Power Plug?

by shumaker＠att.net

Have you looked at something like Digikey.com? They list a bunch of pigtailed power connectors with ID and ODs specified. largest seems to be 2.5mm ID and 5.5mm OD. Page 409 of the online Digikey catalog. s shumaker you wrote: >On 5/24/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote: >>On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:22 -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> > On 5/24/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote: >> > > Maplin do these, but they're just described as "Power Connector". Is it >> > > the same size as the ones used on Toshiba laptops? >> > >> > I think it's larger than that. I have what I thought was a large-bore >> > power connector, but it doesn't come close to fitting. I'm just >> >>The centre pin on Toshiba laptop power connectors is about 3mm, way >>bigger than the normal "fat" power connectors. The outside is the same. > >Hmm... I could believe it's a full 3mm. I'll do some digging on that. >If Toshiba's have a 19V 3A brick, that'd probably do the trick. >Targus sells various laptop adapter kits, but they cost more than the >laptop (as do just Dolch drive bays, but fortunately, mine has one). > >Thanks, > >-ethan

17 years, 1 month

hey, a digest reader has an eBay feedback comment!

by mkath＠charter.net

I'm compelled to comment on the eBay topic. First, I have to say that while it isn't bits and bytes, it is relevant to the group. A lot of collectors of classic gear actually get that gear from eBay. Every one of my 20 or so classic systems came from eBay... Anyway, I recently bought an item and received this in a form e-mail >from the seller: 3)Am I going to receive a feedback from you since I paid immediately. Due to overwhelming feedback request(we are all feedback junkies), I set my system to Automatically leave POSITIVE feedback to buyer when the following TWO conditions are met: i) item is paid. AND ii) Buyer left me a positive feedback. Of course, I was steamed about this. It's just not in the spirit of how eBay is supposed to work. I actually went to eBay to try to find a policy about this, stumbled into the discussion forums and quickly realized that eBay, like Chuck said, has all the integrity of "open-air bazaar in Marrakesh". Tony's suggestion of keeping feedback private until both parties submit feedback seems like a workable idea. On the buying side, I also have a good suggestion - so much of the buying on eBay these days is facilitated through PayPal (50 % or better?). As a result, eBay knows when a seller has been paid. So why not give automatic positive feedback. I mean, what really would a seller have to say after the buyer pays? It's amazing that in their recent revamp of the feedback system, what they delivered is the best they could do. -Matt

17 years, 1 month

new ebay feedback

by legalize＠xmission.com

They now let you grade description, email responsiveness of seller, etc. Hopefully this will improve the feedback score to a more meaningful metric, but it will probably take a while to accumulate. Particularly since the fine-grained feedback is optional. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 1 month

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