test-drb March 2007

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by feldman.r＠comcast.net

Get Media Player Classic from SourceForge instead. It can replace Windows Media Player, RealPlayer, and QuickTime Player. Bob Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:26:17 -0700 From: woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> Subject: Re: PDP-11/40 videos To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <45F72509.8090107 at jetnet.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed <snip>. Well I better upgrade windows media player --- sigh. <snip

17 years, 5 months

PDP-11/40 videos

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

>> As a slightly more helpful remark, if you don't mind I'll download these >> and recode as a couple of different formats. Personally I recommend Ogg >> Theora, because it's an entirely free as in (beer|speech) format, with >> picture quality and compression roughly equivalent to MPEG4. > >It is nowhere near equivalent to MPEG4 (disclaimer: I am a video >compression author/nerd). But yes, it is free. But hardly anything >will play it. > >If you want cross-platform, there really is no choice other than MPEG >(MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4). I have yet to see convincing arguments for >formats other than those for simple media distribution. > >Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ When I get around to making some more (and better) videos, where I can actually take my time and do some good stuff, I will post them to my web site in both MPEG-4(.mp4) and MPEG-1(.mpg). The MPEG-4 seems to have much better compression than any of the other 5 or 6 formats I've tried. .WMV seems to be comparable, but is more Microsoft oriented. Now, back to my original question.... Are there any particular things that people would like me to video? My system is a PDP-11/40 with RK05, RL01, RL02, RX01, RX02, VT05, VT52, VT100, LA36, LA120, ASR33. I also have a couple TU56 units but have not yet hooked them up to the 11/40. It may be another year before I am in the mood to boot up my system and do this kind of thing. I get distracted by lots of other things this time of year with spring planting, etc. I just know that it would have been helpful for me to see visuals of some things back when I was putting my system together. Ashley http://www.woffordwitch.com

17 years, 5 months

ftp archives disappearing?

by ken＠seefried.com

From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> >On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Adam Goldman wrote: >> These protocols >> no longer exist on the Internet, mostly due to valid security reasons. > > Hmm, that's an interesting assertion: > >apophis$ which finger >/bin/finger >apophis$ which talk >/bin/talk > > ...looks to me like they're still there. > He said "exist on the Internet". As someone who looks at such things for a living, he's right for all practical purposes. N.B. - "Practical purposes" means something more than "a couple of cc'ers doing it for nostalgia".

17 years, 5 months

speaking of terminals...beauty is up on ebay

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

This is not only a very rare terminal, it is in absolutely gorgeous condition. Heck it would be gorgeous even if it was beat up & dirty. But it's rather pristine. Bet this goes for real money.... http://tinyurl.com/2xalbc Pretty much defines retro-computing-beauty. Jay West

17 years, 5 months

Introduction And Questions About Media Preservation

by doug＠stillhq.com

> >Cool to me it was like catching time in a bottle. Getting to the files >I worked with perhaps will bring me back in a small way to those days. >You never know how much you miss something till its gone. I really did >not appreciate those early awkward days until much later in life. > Yep, I recently brought back to life a Z80 based "Pulsar Little Big Board" STD bus CP/M system - It was surprising the lack of bit rot that the system had suffered since 1986, when I moved to my shiny new XT. In any case, there were all of my old projects in all of their glory - That got me going, and I spent an entire weekend moving data from various older archive format (from 360K 5.25" disks, to QIC-02 tapes) onto spinning platters... I found huge numbers of projects from firms that I worked for that no longer exist - And even remembered that I was actually paid (in $$$) to write pascal code... Never would have believed that! Backups are much more regular now days, and all onto optical media - as well as onto raid disks, so it is unlikely that they will be lost again. -- Doug Jackson, MAIPM, MIEEE Senior Information Security Consultant EWA-AUSTRALIA PO Box 6308 O'Connor ACT 2602 Level 1, 214 Northbourne Ave, Braddon ACT 2612 Tel: +61 (0)2 6230 6833 Fax: +61 (0)2 6230 5833 Mob: +61 (0)414 986 878 http://www.ewa-australia.com ============================================ IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of Electronic Warfare Associates - Australia. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact doug.jackson at ewa-australia.com or Ph +61 2 62306833 and delete the email. This message is not to be copied or distributed to other parties without the express permission of the author. Any personal information in this email must be handled in accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). ============================================

17 years, 5 months

FOR SALE: TI-99/4A EXPANSION SYSTEM w/ SPEECH, RS232, TRIPLETECH

by guy.harrison＠comcast.net

I have a TI-99 system up for auction on eBay right now: link to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=230103019092> &Item=230103019092 clipped from auction listing: Enormous Texas Instruments TI-99/4a Expansion System! Base unit Includes: * TI-99/4a base unit, serial number 2340598 - LTA3082 * TI AC power adapter, model # AC9500 * TI Video Modulator, model #UM1381 * TI Wired Remote Controllers [joysticks], model #PHP1100 * TI Cassette Interface Cable, model #PHA2000 * PEC Electricord standard computer power cable, model #107-2 * Extra 300-75ohm switch box, part #003643 [no mfg mark] * Model #PHP100 owner's manual * Model #UM1381 owner's manual * Model #PHA2000 owner's manual * TI-99/4a User's Reference Guide * TI-99/4a Quick Start Guide Expansion System includes: * TI Peripheral Expansion System, Model #1200, serial# 409652 - HTA0883 * TI Peripheral Expansion System quick-remove case lid * TI Disk Memory System and Disk Memory Drive, model #PHP1240 & PHP1250 * TI 32Kx8 Memory Expansion, Model #1260 * TI serial extender ribbon cable, model #1050212-1 * TI Flex Cable Interface * Model #1200 owner's manual * Model #1240 owner's manual * Model #1250 owner's manual * Model #1260 owner's manual * CorComp RS 232 Serial Interface Card * CorComp TripleTech card w/ TI Speech Synthesizer card, model #PHP1500 installed! * CorComp RS232 owner's manual * CorComp TripleTech owner's manual * Model #PHP1500 owner's manual Peripherals included: * Personal Peripherals Super Sketch graphic input tablet, model #G2400 * Super Sketch instruction book * Super Sketch Starter Kit Software cartridges included: * A-Maze-Ing w/ book * Addition and Subtraction 2 w/ book * Alpiner w/ book * The Attack w/ book * Beginning Grammar w/ book * Blackjack and Poker w/ book * Blasto w/ book * Car Wars w/ book * Chisholm Trail w/ book * Disk Manager 2 [no book] * Early Learning Fun w/ book [X2] * Hangman w/ book * Hunt the Wumpus w/ book * Jawbreaker II / book * *MASH w/ book * *Microsurgeon w/ book * Multiplication 1 [Scott, Foresman] no book * Munch Man [Pac Man] w/ book * Parsec w/ book * Scholastic Spelling-Level 3 w/ book * Scholastic Spelling-Level 5 w/ book * *Superfly w/ book * Tax/Investment Record Keeping w/ book * TI Invaders [Space invaders] w/ book * TI Extended BASIC w/ 222 page programming manual & reference cards * Tombstone City w/ 2 books * Video Chess w/ book * Yahtzee w/ book * Cartridges marked with an asterisk are Solid State Speech Cartridges for use with the TI99 Speech Synthesizer, which IS included in this lot, installed on the CorComp TripleTech card. Cassette Software included: * **Draw Poker w/ book * **Personal Financial Aids w/ book * **Teach Yourself BASIC Part One w/ book * **Teach Yourself BASIC Part Two w/ book ** Cassettes marked with double asterisks are for use with a generic cassette tape player, which is NOT included in this lot. However, the Extended BASIC Command Module, also required for use with this software, IS included. Floppy Diskette Software included: * Andrew Tobias - Managing Your Money, 2 diskettes / no book * Endless Mt. Software - Par Fore / no book * R.A. Green - Macro Assembler / no book * Clint Pully - C99 Compiler / no book Software Suites included: * DataBioTics - Super Space II, 1 diskette & 1 Cartridge / no book * Microsoft - Multiplan, unused copy! SEE: Complete contents! * TI-Writer Word Processor. SEE: Book, binder, disk, cartridge. * TI Logo II. SEE: Book, binder, disk, cartridge and cassette. * Editor/Assembler - Book, binder, 2 disks, cartridge & quick-ref Books, catalogs and magazines included: * SAMS COMPUTERFACTS - Technical Service Data * Texas Instruments HomeComputer Program Library w/ Bill Cosby cover * Frederick Holtz - Using and Programming the TI-99/4A * Beginner's BASIC * Ralph Molesworth - Introduction to Assembly Language * Steve Davis - Programs for the TI Home Computer This lot also come with a 3M head cleaning diskette kit and a box of 10 unused Polaroid floppy diskettes: As you can imagine, this is going to be a very heavy lot. I weighed it at about 88 pounds! So check the shipping calculator to see the damage before you bid! I will allow pickup from Minneapolis by anybody who wants to avoid shipping charges.

17 years, 5 months

HP items on Gov Liquidation 2645A 79XX Disk / Tape

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

Close Time: 03/22/2007 http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1161597 Warner Robins, GA 31098 1304A 2645A (bad screen rot) 7900? disk drive 85 http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1126700 Jacksonville, FL 32212 1631D 7980 tape drive

17 years, 5 months

Introduction And Questions About Media Preservation

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

>>> I looked at the stack on the shelf at the sale and said to myself, >>> why, those look just like the ones we used to use... and I reached >>> for them, and they were. A few bucks and they were mine. >>> Soon after, a list member helped me read them. They were a set >>> of RSTS backups from when I was working there. >> >> Cool to me it was like catching time in a bottle. Getting to the >> files I >> worked with perhaps will bring me back in a small way to those >> days. You >> never know how much you miss something till its gone. I really did not >> appreciate those early awkward days until much later in life. > > I know *exactly* how you feel! Restoring the old backups from my >first PDP-11 (RSTS/E) and flipping through those files...it was a >very powerful experience. > > -Dave Ditto that. <RAMBLE> I had saved all of my PDP-11 stuff from 1978 on a buggy RK05 pack that started having problems mounting back in 1978. Several of us pooled our money back then to pay about $100 for that refurbished pack. It seemed like a fortune, but we were tired of saving our programs on paper tape on the ASR-33. After the pack started having problems, we were forbidden to ever mount it again on our college's system. My friends and I carried it around and traded it back and forth for 26 years. One time one of the guys wanted to turn it into a wall clock. I quickly took it to my house. Then one day I got a PDP-11/40. Then I got an RK05 drive that worked. Then in 2004, I attempted to mount my old RK05 pack by typing MOUNT DK1:JEFF. The system responded with READY. My heart was beating fast!. I did DIR DK1:(*,*)*.* and it printed the directory of the entire pack, exactly as we left it back in 1978. I managed to salvage everything from that pack to disk images on my PC. As Dave said, it was a powerful experience. </RAMBLE> Ashley http://www.woffordwitch.com

17 years, 5 months

PDP-11/40 videos

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

>> When I get around to making some more (and better) videos, where I >> can actually take my time and do some good stuff, I will post them to >> my web site in both MPEG-4(.mp4) and MPEG-1(.mpg). The MPEG-4 seems to >> have much better compression than any of the other 5 or 6 formats I've >> tried. .WMV seems to be comparable, but is more Microsoft oriented. >Well I better upgrade windows media player --- sigh. I think the MP4 files play on my system in QuickTime, which I got either from Apple's web site or with my iPod. >> Now, back to my original question.... >> Are there any particular things that people would like me to video? > >Playing the the TTY version ... Boy the fans on the PDP-11 is >loud, one can hardly hear the TTY. What hardware is running? All that background noise is from: * the small fans (5 ot 6?) in the 11/40 chassis * the big fans in the top of the H960 racks * the blowers in the THREE RK05 drives * some minor sound from the two RL02s and the RL01 * some minor humming from the two DecWriters >Thanks for the downloads ... > Only another 24 meg to for the windows media upgrade... >I remember when you could install Windows/95 from floppy. Yeah I remember that too. And I remember when you could install all of RSTS onto a 2.5mb RK05 pack.... and support 16 users on the system.... well, we did have a second RK05 drive for some overflow. :-) Ashley http://www.woffordwitch.com

17 years, 5 months

Introduction And Questions About Media Preservation "Mostly DecStuff"

by fsmith＠ladylinux.com

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 12:47:04 pm cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: John Wrote .. > Lightning strikes. ?Chance favors the prepared mind. ?Or at least the > obsessive mind with time on its hands. ?I have a stack of nine-tracks > I bought at the university surplus that must've stayed in limbo from > a department I once worked at - at least fifteen years before. > > I looked at the stack on the shelf at the sale and said to myself, > why, those look just like the ones we used to use... ?and I reached > for them, and they were. ?A few bucks and they were mine. ? > Soon after, a list member helped me read them. ?They were a set > of RSTS backups from when I was working there. Cool to me it was like catching time in a bottle. Getting to the files I worked with perhaps will bring me back in a small way to those days. You never know how much you miss something till its gone. I really did not appreciate those early awkward days until much later in life. -- Kindest Regards, Francesca Smith "No Problems Only Solutions" Lady Linux Internet Services Baltimore, Maryland 21217

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