Hi:
I got your name when I googled Outbound laptop and for sale. Did you
ever sell your Outbound? If you did, could you please tell me who
you sold it to?
Thanks.
Jennifer
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:33:46 -0400
>From: "Teo Zenios" <teoz at neo.rr.com>
>I don't understand why people donate complete and working vintage machines
>to places that just recycle them, why not offer them in the forums of
>websites where people collect them or on freecycle or ebay?
In many cases the older equipment which is donated comes from
institutions or businesses which either have too many machines to
handle on a one at a time basis, or just have no mechanism for giving
to entities other than Goodwill or similar.
Jeff Walther
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:18:05 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> My advice is to make known to the folk in your
>area (the area being as big as you're willing to
>travel) that you salvage these items for donations and whatnot.
That might work at stores other than Goodwill ComputerWorks.
There have been times when I could *see* older machines in the back
sorting area. I asked the clerks if they ever get any of 'X' and
they say no. I have done this multiple times including with the
manager at the store. They have no interest in fulfilling requests.
For some reason they are bound and determined to only sell newer
stuff even when they have a customer standing in the store and the
items in the sorting area.
Jeff Walther
Ya know... this recent talk of terminals got me thinking.....
It would be a good idea IMHO to preserve the functionality of all these
classic old terminals. After all, sooner or later the real ones will
disappear or at least stop working. After all, some systems are picky about
only working with certain terminals (or some only work WELL with certain
terminals)...
Then I started thinking... most modernish "good" terminal emulation packages
don't support all the old venerable classics. Sure, many do VT100 (sort of).
But when was the last time you saw a terminal emulation package that
faithfully reproduced a beehive minibee? Or a Heath H19? I think it might be
helpful for the future if there was a "collectors" terminal emulation
program that really did strive to get emulations for all the old terminals,
and get it dead right. I know it'd be nice to have one emulator for my
systems that "did the right thing(tm)" on my HP mini's, my DECs, DGs, and my
Heathkits, GA Zebras, TI990's, etc. etc. all with one program. Instead I
have to have many different terminal emulation programs (because one that
does HP2624 emulation wont do my TI terminal emulation...)... or the real
thing (which of course I'd prefer).
So then my unix-centric brain said... Oh, well, there's always
termcap/terminfo. Surely that will document old terminals for posterity and
future emulation. So I just popped in to my local copy of terminfo and sure
enough, there's even an entry for the beehive minibee and superbee. BUT... I
then noted the comments that say "hey, this termcap entry is pretty wrong
and doesn't work right". So relying on terminfo for preservation is probably
not a great idea. But it's a start.
Just thinking out loud... would be nice to have a terminal emulation program
that was easily extensible for any terminal, already had all the ones
defined that we here are familiar with... and ran on everything from MS/DOS
to Vista to *nix. A classiccmp'ers terminal emulator :) Maybe a good start
would be those of us that have particular terminals at least going in and
correcting the terminfo entries that are incorrect.
Perhaps this is a silly idea and I just need my morning coffee!
Jay West
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:19:29 +0000 (UTC)
> box with the proper length loop. They worked, but were so dried out
> from age/storage that the print wasn't any darker!! I even tried
> drilling a small hole above the inkpad roller and squirting in some X-
> stamper (handheld stamp) ink, but that didn't help much.
>
> So I've about given up on my 43, unless someone can tell me where to
> get a ribbon that actually works!
A re-inker works pretty well. Basically it is a device that applies new ink to
the ribbon.
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:57:40 -0500
>From: Jim Battle <frustum at pacbell.net>
>I've had it with the Computerworks in Austin. Please let me rant;
>nobody else will appreciate it.
>
> http://www.austingoodwill.org/crs/store%20locater%20pages/ComputerWorks.html
>
>When I moved to Austin a couple years ago, I had high hopes.
> In
>Austin (and San Antonio, and probably some other cities) Goodwill sends
>all of their computer donations to a specialized goodwill, marketed as
>"ComputerWorks"; the theory is that most goodwill's don't have skilled
>employees to know what is interesting or not and how to price it; I
>agree that is the case.
>
>The Austin Computerworks even has a vintage computer museum, so that led
>me to believe the appreciated vintage computers.
>Bzzt. Not so.
>What makes this even more insidious is that when I go to the local run
>of the mill goodwills and inquire about what they do with old computer
>donations, they say they ship them to computer works to deal with them.
>
>So essentially it is a vintage computer magnet attached to a wood chipper.
My main interest is in old Macintosh and clone machines. I mostly
lost interest in the Computer Works store when it became obvious that
they would no longer put anything older than a Beige G3 on the
shelves.
But just to rub it in, they keep a Macintosh 128K up on a top shelf
in the sales area which is not for sale. Why display such a
collectable, when they will never offer anything remotely similar for
sale ever again?
Before they changed locations they had a nice little collection of
SE/30s on one of the top shelves.
Before they changed policies, I picked up a PM9150, a bunch of old
unobtainium NuBus cards, and similar bits and pieces. Now, phsssst.
I flap my tongue and direct spittle in their general direction.
Jeff Walther
>From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
>In article <m1HRzUm-000J1EC at p850ug1>,
> ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) writes:
>
>> It uses an odd ribbon that is probably unobtanium now
>
> What's so odd about the ribbon?
The ribbons aren't impossible to obtain but not everyone carries them.
Usual quantity is at least a box of five.
I think I already posted this (check the archives), but I'll recap
briefly for those interested:
Last year I bought a nice 43 in a transit case. Print was very light.
So I ordered a box of five ribbons ($40+ with shipping) and promptly
discovered that they had been made incorrectly (ribbon loop too long,
so the ribbon was too slack and would not move across the re-ink roller
during carriage return). After taking one apart, having a dialogue with
the design engineer at Dataprint(?) and sending them for his
inspection, he agreed that they were incorrectly made and sent me a new
box with the proper length loop. They worked, but were so dried out
>from age/storage that the print wasn't any darker!! I even tried
drilling a small hole above the inkpad roller and squirting in some X-
stamper (handheld stamp) ink, but that didn't help much.
So I've about given up on my 43, unless someone can tell me where to
get a ribbon that actually works!
-Charles
>From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
>In article <m1HRzUm-000J1EC at p850ug1>,
> ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) writes:
>
>> It uses an odd ribbon that is probably unobtanium now
>
> What's so odd about the ribbon?
The ribbons aren't impossible to obtain but not everyone carries them.
Usual quantity is at least a box of five.
I think I already posted this (check the archives), but I'll recap
briefly for those interested:
Last year I bought a nice 43 in a transit case. Print was very light.
So I ordered a box of five ribbons ($40+ with shipping) and promptly
discovered that they had been made incorrectly (ribbon loop too long,
so the ribbon was too slack and would not move across the re-ink roller
during carriage return). After taking one apart, having a dialogue with
the design engineer at Dataprint(?) and sending them for his
inspection, he agreed that they were incorrectly made and sent me a new
box with the proper length loop. They worked, but were so dried out
>from age/storage that the print wasn't any darker!! I even tried
drilling a small hole above the inkpad roller and squirting in some X-
stamper (handheld stamp) ink, but that didn't help much.
So I've about given up on my 43, unless someone can tell me where to
get a ribbon that actually works!
-Charles
Hi,
I'm using a sparc powerlite which is a sparc laptop
and it works great in stand alone mode. However, when
I use an external monitor (plugged into the back) the
screen shakes significantly whenever there is disk
activity.
Its pretty major interference - any ideas as to what
that might be - or if there is an easy cure (maybe
replacing the HD?)
Thanks
Ian.
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From: Robert Borsuk <rborsuk at colourfull.com>
>
> Hi All,
> I just got in a Data General DG/500 (this is the PC style computer
> based on the microEclipse chip set).
> Unforturnately, no docs or software can with the unit. Does anyone
> have any info on this unit, or can
> point me in the right direction. Even the connectors on the back are
> non-standard.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
>
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I have the same problems here but did get some of the manuals
>from bruce @ "Nova's are Forever" He does read this list and sends
links if he has time. I can E-mial what I have if needed. I did figure
out the pin-outs for the connections on the back. Have not been able
to locate the cables or the OS tapes.
- Jerry
Jerry Wright
