test-drb March 2007

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by jvdg＠sparcpark.net

Hex Star wrote: > On 3/18/07, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote: > >> That implies a systemic desire to avoid valid copyright. That doesn't >> seem like a good idea. If you don't respect others' copyright, you >> shouldn't expect anyone to respect yours. > > No problem there, I don't have any copyrighted items I've made :P > > And the idea isn't to do that just to be ignorant and say "Ha ha!" to the US > government agencies/lawyers, the idea would be to do that so that people > could upload full versions of vintage software that you once had to pay for > without having to worry about some employee coming out of the dead and suing > us...it really shouldn't be an issue with software of this age but webspace > in Russia would just make this whole copyright deal a non-issue thus meaning > we wouldn't have to censure our archives content nor deal with any > roundabout ways of distributing the archive such as requiring a free > registration Okay, you really need to start shutting up now and instead start listening and learning for a bit. I've been seeing you around a few places, and I've noticed that this isn't the first community where you'd be getting into a spot of trouble with your incessant hammering on these issues. Knock it with the illegal crap. That's what gets communities (like this one) shut down, OK? ,xtG tsooJ

17 years, 4 months

Fwd: large vanload of NorthStar equipment offered

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Yikes! Don't I wish I lived in the USA! Having written applications in Cbasic on Horizons years ago. I would just love one for my collection. Oh well 'one day in the uk' (maybe) Rod Smallwood -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: 18 March 2007 18:41 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Fwd: large vanload of NorthStar equipment offered Well apparently the attachment didn't come through... So here it is inline. Please respond to the original poster directly and not to me. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-= Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:14:02 -0500 From: "OLD-COMPUTERS.COM Newsletter" <mail at old-computers.com> Subject: OLD-COMPUTERS.COM ~ donation offer Id: <E1HSv5t-0000N7-41 at mgr14.xmission.com> --------- Hi Tim Deaton, former Northstar dealer, contacted us to offer us as a donation a la rge van load of NorthStar and NorthStar related computers, software, parts and m isc stuff including Horizon, Advantage, and Din- ension chassis and parts, never been used Zenith S-100 buss machine, never opene d software applications packages, old technical manuals, add-on cards and device s, and oddball stuff... Sadly, as we are based in France we can't handle this exceptional donation. So we pass the message to all collectors, mainly those based in the USA. If you want this stuff, there are two conditions: - you must accept to help www.old-computers.com get info & pictures from this st uff to be added to the museum - You will have to do as as Tim say (see his email below) If you are interested, mail me back (olivier at old-computers) explaining why you t hink you can fulfill those two conditions. I will give Tim contacts to the first serious reply. Good luck ___TIM ORIGINAL MAIL________ I have a large van load of NorthStar and NorthStar related computers, software, parts and misc stuff that needs a good home. You can have this stuff IF you will use it responsibly. This includes Horizon, Advantage, and Din- ension chassis and parts. A never been used Zenith S-100 buss machine, never opened software applications packages, old technical manuals, add-on cards and devices, and oddball stuff you probably never thought you would see again. I also have a score of Televideo terminals. I may have some serial cabling and I have A LOAD of Full Height Floppy Disk drives. If you will find them a good home, you can have them but you must pick them up. The cache is located near Indianapolis and I will be returning to the area from my home in Florida in June of this year. If you have a FULL size van and removed the second and third row of seats, you could likely get all the chassis and software packed in. If you want the parts and the terminals, better bring a panel truck. You will have to help me sort them out of the HUGE stash of equipment I have in the garage and office. _____________________________________________________ OLD-COMPUTERS.COM Collectors Mailing =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-= -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 4 months

OT: Interesting website with Classic Computer feel

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

OK, this has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with Computers, it's actually the web site of a Indie Band. However, it is interesting in that it feels like an Apple ][. http://www.theraconteurs.com/ Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

17 years, 4 months

PDP-11/40 videos

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

>I'm confused. I wasn't asking you to change the format. Only the file name - >which certainly wouldn't have changed the file size! I am totally inept and >blissfully unaware of anything graphics related. However, I was under the >impression that if the file was named .mpg (or .mpeg) that it could be mp2, >mp3, mp4, whatever, and the decoder would figure it out based on stuff >internal to the file. > >I thought most folks I talked to named all their mpeg files .mpg or .mpeg, >that way they work in any player (that supports the format). Naming them >.mp4 is fine for keeping straight to yourself what format the file is, but >they aren't normally distributed that way I didn't think. > >Again, I know NOTHING about graphics stuff like this. The above is my nieve >assumptions so I could be completely offbase :) > >So I would have thought you would just rename the .mp4 files to .mpeg or >.mpg. Don't keep the .mp4 named ones around. > >But someone would have to confirm the above is correct :) > >Jay > I tried just plain old renaming, and the media player did not like it. After that, I used a video converter program to convert from mp4 to mpg. They apparently are different formats. I am not an expert on this either, but I have done a miniscule amount of dabbling. Ashley

17 years, 4 months

OT: Interesting website with Classic Computer feel

by james.rice＠gmail.com

On 3/18/07, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > > OK, this has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with Computers, it's actually > the web site of a Indie Band. However, it is interesting in that it > feels like an Apple ][. http://www.theraconteurs.com/ > > Zane > > > > - I found that one a few months ago. it's Jack White's new band. Cool site effects. i wish I had thought of it first. James -- www.blackcube.org - The Texas State Home for Wayward and Orphaned Computers

17 years, 4 months

Free to a good home

by ddsnyder＠zoominternet.net

OK, word is out, I'm in Butler, PA. Anytime your in the area, email me, come see my stuff, DEC Alpha's, VAXes, IBM PS/2's, Old PC's, Imsai, Polymorthic and Sol 20. I'm not done, just beginning, I have PC software (DOS), Netware and other soft stuff + manuals. Dan

17 years, 4 months

govliq: 7 TS05 tape drives (Mechanicsburg, PA)

by legalize＠xmission.com

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17 years, 4 months

govliq: Tektronix 4041 disk drive unit (HD/FD) (Elmendorf, AK)

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1161577&convertTo=USD> Looks like it contains a 10 MB hard drive and a 5.25" floppy drive. This connects to the Tektronix 4041 system controller, presumably the main interface is GPIB although the description says RS-232. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 4 months

govliq: 2 paper tape readers (Mechanicsburg, PA)

by legalize＠xmission.com

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17 years, 4 months

Gee, nobody has talked about the ASR33 in a while...

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

Well, as I reorganize and clean, I managed to sidetrack myself from the aforementioned cleaning by playing with my ASR33 TeleType. I have it working properly, and it prints and types correctly - although I have never managed to interface it to anything. I remember a year ago, trying some quickie kludge I found on the 'net, and having it not work. I am struggling to remember what I thought I used to know about TeleType interfaces. Correct me if I'm wrong: The teletype's serial output is compatible with RS232 at the protocol level, and since it's a 33, it's ASCII too. The TeleType is a passive device with a 20ma current loop interface. In order to work, it needs a loop current source (I had to use a 9v radio battery for testing) The signal levels, being 20ma current loop, are NOT compatible directly with RS232C. That being said, it's seemingly possible in some circumstances to interface the two with a diode and a resistor and have it work. In interfacing this thing, I basically want to be able to construct a simple device that 1) supplies loop current, 2) optically isolates the current loop from the RS232 host, and 3) provides proper RS232 signal levels (MAX232, what a wonderful little chip) so that I can connect it to whatever without worrying about blowing up the transceivers. I should be able to scrounge up some optoisolators, I know I have MAX232's and I should have no trouble constructing a simple, transformer based power supply to supply power for both the MAX232 and the loop current. But, I have forgotten some key elements, such as I don't know what an acceptable voltage is to supply the loops, and although I remember reading that the RX and TX used different amounts of juice, I don't remember the specs, and lastly - AC or DC loops? DC, right? What's an acceptable way to create loop current without driving something too hard or blowing something up? Also, my TeleType manual doesn't appear to have information on what screw terminals do what on the terminal strip at the back of the machine - I think I remember which ones were RX and which were TX, but I would like to be sure. It's late... I am bound to have something horribly wrong in my mind (and therefore in this post) right now. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -Ian

17 years, 4 months

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test-drb March 2007