>
>Subject: Re: CUBIX/6809 updates
> From: woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca>
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:05:58 -0700
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>I think a Floppy chip with a real built in data separator is the way to go.
Find a37c65 or 9266. no big deal using raw ttl as then you can do ANY
data rate.
>Also a good dma is needed, as having the cpu do floppy I/O leaves
>no margin for serial I/O.
Not required. Small system, nice addition but pumps up complexity
more than a bit.
most of the S100 CP/M systems (and some of the SBCs) are non DMA and
not even interrupts for serial IO. All polled. Not as nice but
hardly serious.
>The other thing is a NICE terminal to go with the system. I don't want
>to boot windows or dos to run a terminal. For development work a PC is
>a good idea until you get a OS running. I have a used Altos IV here,
> from what the keyboard says but I don't know of how many years of
>life the terminal may have left.
Fix it, build one or find a VT220,320,320 whatever.
myself I plan to buld a subsystem terminal but for the time being a
VT320 or a DEC VK170 for those that know what that is.
Allison
Hey everyone,
Are any of you interested in a group purchase of MCM68766 EPROM chips?
These are used in M8189s and possibly in some other DEC equipment. I'm
looking to upgrade my M8189 to a -BJ with these chips.
Unfortunately the places that sell them are asking for a $150-200 minimum
order.
If you're interested, let me know.
Julian
Has anyone upgraded the memory on a T3100 by any chance?
( 1MB standard, 5MB max)
Looks like 4 standard 30-pin modules, 256KB or 1MB, but it doesn't
recognize any of the ones I've tried so I assume there's something
proprietary about them.
Anybody have any info or experience?
TIA,
mike
>
>Subject: Re: CUBIX/6809 updates
> From: woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca>
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:29:00 -0700
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>No way that would work, as I don't have a TTL level monitor here, or a
>real keyboard...
So unfornturnate, no material to build with.
>Just PC stuff! I still not figured out the terminal design yet, but it
>would have 3 over laping
You could use a PC for a terminal
>displays ... lowest level -- some sort of graphic display -- say 8 grey
>or 8 colors -- 3 dots per
>byte. Second level -- User Ascii with fixed colors and transparentcy.
>Third level -- System Ascii
>and borders and cursor pointers.
Thats one way and likely the most complex hardware intense.
Allison
>
>Subject: Re: WordPerfect for DOS 5.1
> From: Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org>
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:43:15 -0600
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>Allison wrote:
>> A friend uses WP8 or 9 as Word is not optimum for legal
>> briefs and the like.
>
>Why?
At the time (5-7 years ago) it was the standard in the legal industry
as it handled footnotes, citations and other aspects of legal documents
better than work at the time. That may have changed, maybe.
Allison
>--
>Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/
>Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
>Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
Not necessarily true...
My Wordperfect 5 for DOS came with a Bitstream Font
engine that added Bitstream fonts to WordPerfect for
DOS.
I was NOT limited to the Printer Fonts, though I had
an HP LaserJet and a special WordPerfect Font
Cartridge for that which added many standard fonts to
the Printer as well...
This functionality was later added into WPDOS 6.x...
If I had to, I could do ALL of my current
WordProcessing needs on WPDOS 5.x or 6.x, and I did
for quite a while...
Regards,
Al Hartman
> Allison wrote:
>
>> As to better docs... WordperfectV5/dos was better
than any of the MS
>> apps for that back then.
>
>
> He wasn't talking about document creation, he was
talking about
> printing, for which he is right on the money. If
you used Word
> Perfect 5 for DOS, you were limited to the fonts
your printer
> supported. If you used Geoworks, or Ghostscript (I
used a retail
> package called "GOSCRIPT"), or Win 3.1, you could
use any font you
> want and the print subsystem would just rasterize it
as graphics.
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For the benefit of any one who is building up a 6809 based system and
planning to run my CUBIX OS (or thinking about it):
I have just updated the source code, documents, disk images and simulator for
the CUBIX/6809 system which are available on my site.
Main change is that I have ported my Micro-C 6809 compiler over to run native on
the system. Languages currently included with CUBIX are: Assembler, Asp (high-
level assembler), Basic, Forth, APL and now C.
Due to the large size of the C documentation, the documentation diskette has
been split into two physical disks (well... images for the simulator), "System/Utilities"
and "Languages".
The C compiler happened to expose an obscure stack corruption bug in the OS,
so I have hunted that down and swatted it.
I've also updated the simulator to include the ability to import/export text files as
console input/output, and enhanced the debugger to include the ability to
disassemble in either "6809" mode ("SWI" == "SWI"), or in "CUBIX" mode
("SWI / FCB xx" becomes "SSR xx") and a nifty "Step over" command which
allows you to execute at full speed until the stack pointer returns to where you
started. (The debug enhancements are brought to you courtesy of the stack
corruption bug :-).
Regards,
Dave
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All,
thanks for the responses. I now know what to look for (21MX) on eBay.
I am not in a hurry, I can wait, but I have http://www.manualsplus.com/
bookmarked. But the link to the pdf (Chapter 2) given by Bob is probably
all I need to get going!
thanks!
- Henk, PA8PDP
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Glen Slick
> Sent: woensdag 14 december 2005 1:54
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: looking for user manual of HP2113E or HP2117F
>
> On 12/13/05, Gooijen, Henk <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am looking for the user manual (console operations)
> > of the HP 2113E and / or HP 2117F.
> > Anybody know a download site ?
> >
>
> Two manuals that would be good to find are:
>
> 21MX E-Series Computer
> HP 2109B and HP 2113B
> Operating and Reference Manual
> part number 02109-90014
>
> -or-
>
> 21MX E-Series Computer
> Technical Reference Handbook
> part number 5950-3765
>
> (you missed out on this one:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8719876844 )
>
> Neither of these appear to be currently available on bitsavers
> You can find the 2113/2117 front panel schematics here:
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000/1000_MEF_EngrRef/
> 92851-90001_Mar81_8.pdf
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of woodelf
> Sent: dinsdag 13 december 2005 23:35
> To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: CUBIX/6809 updates
>
> Gooijen, Henk wrote:
>
> >but it would make the entry of an address (16-bit) cumbersome.
> >You must enter it as an 8-bit high and an 8-bit low address.
> >I'd definately would go for 16 switches in this case, and also
> >16 LEDs for the address. Perhaps a matter of taste ...
> >
> >
> But come to think of it,. was not the 6809 board first
> designed for your PDP 11 interface?. More than ample switches
> and lights.
True. I was not thinking of the I/O hardware capacity, but in
the physical console, already built. The "blinkenlight" project
can control the full-blown PDP-11/70 console (just), but if you
need even more LEDs/switches to control, the design allows you
to stack several I/O boards! Each I/O boards gives 64 input pins
and 64 output pins, so go ahead and wire that S/3 console :-)
- Henk, PA8PDP
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