test-drb March 2002

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Printer Drum

by DayTraderStock＠aol.com

Im looking for a LB-DR320 printer drum. Can you help Ron Lessa daytraderstock(a)aol.com 508-992-1151 in MA

22 years, 9 months

Symbolics rescue, URGENT!

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. Location: Germany, Kaiserslautern Items: Two Symbolics 3600 Lisp machines, see http://kogs-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~moeller/symbolics-info/3600.html Yes, they are heavy, big (1,8m / 6') 19" rack boxen. State: _NOT_ working, it may be possible to build one working machine by ripping the other. Free for everyone who takes them. BUT: You must take both (+ console Monitor) and you must take them Sunday afternoon (14:00 - 15:00) or Monday (9:00 - 17:00). If they are not gone on Tuesday, they will be taken apart and scraped. Further details unknowen. No. I can not store them. I already managed the salvation of three 3640 and one 3670 from the same location... PLEASE mail me only if you are able to transport them. -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

22 years, 9 months

Possibly OT: Canon Objectstation SCSI problem

by jrice＠texoma.net

Does anyone on the list have experience with the Canon Objectstation Model 41. I think it's just short of being on topic. I'm trying to install NS3.3 on my Objectstation. It has a Buslogic BT-445C SCSI controller, VLB, and I can boot the box, start installing, Next finds the controller, the CD-ROM and the hard drive. The install routine asks me to choose a disk for installation and then fdisk tewlls me "Bogous BIOS information, please reset the bios setting in your mother board or SCSI controller card". I have noticed that I don't get the usual "Press Alt-B for setup" message that I've gotten from Buslogic cards in the past or that the pdf manual from Mylex's site talks about. Did Canon install some funky custom Rom on the card? I'm going to take a spare 486 VLB motherboard home tonight and try setting up the drive using a DOS driver disk that came with the Objectstation. James Rice Dallas, TX http://home.texoma.net/~jrice/classiccomp2.html

22 years, 9 months

OpenSTEP for VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, I have heard that OpenSTEP ran on VMS (Alpha) at one point. Having never heard of, nor seen this, I am curious, and would like to acquire a copy of this miraculous thing to run at home (on a hopefully soon-to-be-had DEC 3000, using the VMS hobbyist license...) Does anyone have any idea where to get it? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 9 months

Suggestions for hauling Computer Garage from Beaverton, OR toYates

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Try around NY, Boston and east coast in general, especially the metro > regions. Many of the rails have been abandoned over the last 50 years > and are being removed infavor of many uses from trails to roads. If they've been abandoned for to long it takes a lot of work to get them back into condition to run trains over them. While we've had a lot of track ripped out around here, they've also reopened a fair amount of it. Zane

22 years, 9 months

MOP booting RT-11

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > >As others more qualified than I have said, there isn't a way to boot >RT-11 over an ethernet card; True. However you can mop boot using DDCMP over serial or sync lines but that is not supported by RT11 internally but it can load the rt11 image that way. > I am, however, confident you can boot RT-11 >over a TU-58 and a serial port. I have never done it (I've always used >floppies or a hard disk), but with the right bootstrap on the -11, it I have, and do. it expects a standard DL device on one of several likely addresses and uses RSP/MRSP (TU58 serial protocal). >shouldn't be a big deal. You could then bring up your machine from an >emulated TU-58 (a DOS or Linux box, probably, or even VMS, with a little There are programs for Linus or unix boxen and it's doable with VMS. >development work to port an emulator) and tape images. It's a bit slow - >38400 bps is a standard transfer speed, but not as bad as the original >because you won't have enormous seek latency. At 38.4 with a real tape the seeks are killer slow. With a tu58 simulator it's remarkably fast and useable. Hint: boot rt11, install VM: and INIT VM: then copy/boot DD to VM, then copy the core of RT11 to VM and boot that. Then the slow tape is less an issue as swaps and commonly used files are local to the ramdisk (VM:). Minimum ram for that is 256k (VM:192k), as usual more is better. With a 1 or 2Mb of ram VM: is quite large and the effect is a system that beats an RL02/RLV21 for performance. Most of this is forgotten by all but the most hardcore PDP-11 users and likely unheard of to the kids. >Also, it's possible to force-feed a bootstrap or any other memory >tidbits down the console line and ODT. We used that technique to >test COMBOARDs when I was at Software Results - the rig was software or to load the TU58 loader. ;) Allison

22 years, 9 months

Write only programming

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > If you write machine code rather than assembly language (I've > done this a > few time...) then again there's no way to include comments... Sure there is -- just don't run them ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 9 months

IBM 3192 Terminals

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Today I just got a pair of IBM 3192 (saved from the dumpster), and was wondering what options I have for using them. I know they're 'supposed to' be hooked up to a 3270-mode terminal controller, (like the AT&T 6544 I have, perhaps??), but I'm having a hard time finding much information out about them using Google. Does anyone know of a good reference site for info on these 'beasts'? I also need to get software still for my at&t 6544 if that'll work with these - still not clear if that's a *useful* option. Thanks for the help -- Pat

22 years, 9 months

MOP booting RT-11

by tom＠sba.miami.edu

Is it possible to boot RT-11 on an 11/23 via MOP? If so, can it be done over ethernet or does it have to be a serial line? How would loading drivers and program execution work? Thanks, Tom

22 years, 9 months

KL10-E looking for a good home

by h.wolter＠sympatico.ca

After much consideration, I've decided to try to find a new home for my PDP10 KL-10E. I'm trying to get my collection size down to a more manageable state and concentrate on my PDP11s, Vaxen and Crays. Right now, I simply don't have the means to house and power the machine, and would rather see it go to someone that does. I've not yet decided if I will ask money for it (I've already invested thousands in purchase, shipping and storage costs over the last 5 years), trade for some PDP11's or just offer it for free to a good deserving keeper. Other interesting trades like an S/390s, Cray EL's, J90s etc also considered. Please realize that it's not a turnkey system. It lacks disk drives, so something will have to be done in that regard - either interfacing more modern drives or getting some massbus drives (18 bit set PDP11 drives etc). It does have the complete PDP11/40 front end system, RHs and 2x NIAs. The cabinets will have to be reconnected and the system tested and brought up in an orderly manner by someone familiar with this class of machine. Shipping will be the responsibility of the receiver- 4 wide cabs - ~700lbs each? Should go by air ride and crated if not carefully hand packed/tied to a truck/trailer. System is located in Canada approx. 2 hrs from Windsor-Detroit or 1 hr from Niagara Falls Buffalo. Preference given to millionaires able to afford to keep it running 24x7 and provide free online public accounts ;) Private individuals with knowledge of and respect for DEC equipment esp. 10's/TOPS or those wishing to set up museums/displays and actually run the equipment will be given greater consideration. I'm loathe to put it on ebay so some dot-scam lottery winner can buy it just to say they've got a PDP10, so I'm giving people on this list first dibs. This is definitely not a first come first served, or highest bidder/trader situation - but more like finding the best home for a beloved pet. I thank all respondents in advance, but I can only reply to a limited number of serious inquiries.Please respond off-list. regards, Heinz

22 years, 9 months

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