> I can get matching monitors, but don't think there is a keyboard/mouse
> available. I was wondering if you can power them up
> w/o keyboard/mouse, just box and monitor to verify basic operation,
> whether dead or alive.
You should be able to just plug a Terminal into the serial port.
Zane
> > I'm not sure what the legal issues are about Lat, though... I think
> > it is owned (or is it only marketed) by Meridian, ltd.
> I believe Meridian only marketed (and sublicensed) LAT from DEC, with
> DEC being its owner. DEC did most of its internal LAT code development,
> and Meridian did most of the 'external' versions, e.g. the stuff in
> PC-LAT, Cisco IOS's LAT code, and probably most others, given the
> cost of licensing it... twas cheaper to let them do it than to get
> your own license and do it... :)
I have a copy of Meridian's SuperLAT for Win9x/NT. They dropped
the product and are no longer supporting or developing it. Too
bad; it was helpful to have LAT to access LAT-based terminal
servers. It doesn't seem to work with Win2K/XP.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
>I believe Meridian only marketed (and sublicensed) LAT from DEC, with
>DEC being its owner. DEC did most of its internal LAT code development,
>and Meridian did most of the 'external' versions, e.g. the stuff in
>PC-LAT, Cisco IOS's LAT code, and probably most others, given the
>cost of licensing it... twas cheaper to let them do it than to get
>your own license and do it... :)
Makes sense... we still maintain the lat source for Tru64 unix...
I actually had a track bug through there a few years ago...
Megan
Rich,
Check the website www.aecsales.com, They have the exact parts you need by the
original manufacturer. When at the parts search page be sure to check the box
for "restrict search to items with exact prefix". They have been very helpful
finding obsolete parts for me.
Don
Tom Uban
308 Jefferson Street
Valparaiso, IN 46383
At 04:03 PM 9/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tom Uban wrote:
>
> > Pat,
> >
> > How is your RL02 effort going? Are you done with my terminator yet?
>
>I haven't had much time to play with it lately. I'm pretty sure that it's
>either a bad controller or drive. I'll try to get your terminator sent
>back to you in the next couple days - could you send me your address again
>so I don't have to go looking for it?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-- Pat
I seem to remember that self-parking heads generally were not available on
the 10MB drives of Kaypro 10 vintage, so I did a little Googling and came up
with the following
(http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v9n12/8_The_Kaypro_10_more_than_.php
) from CREATIVE COMPUTING VOL. 9, NO. 12 / DECEMBER 1983:
"A very important command is included in the Kaypro 10 system software.
SAFETY moves the read/write heads on the hard disk to the safe landing zone
on the disk. This must be done before turning the power off or the surface
of the hard disk may be damaged. The SAFETY command is invoked from the
command mode in CP/M."
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Maslin [mailto:donm@cts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:37 PM
To: classiccmp
Subject: Re: Park heads when moving Kaypro 10?
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Glen Goodwin wrote:
> Hi --
>
> Thanks to Don Maslin I'll soon have a set of reload diskettes for my
Kaypro
> 10, and I plan to bring it from home to my shop to do the reload.
>
> Is there a "park" or "ship" command I need to run before transporting the
> unit, so as not to damage the hard drive?
IIRC, it is built into the operating system and when the HD LED goes
out, the heads have been parked.
- don
> TIA --
>
> Glen
> 0/0
Megan wrote:
[pay attention folks, I actually got the addressing right this
time *grin*]
> I'm not sure what the legal issues are about Lat, though... I think
> it is owned (or is it only marketed) by Meridian, ltd.
I believe Meridian only marketed (and sublicensed) LAT from DEC, with
DEC being its owner. DEC did most of its internal LAT code development,
and Meridian did most of the 'external' versions, e.g. the stuff in
PC-LAT, Cisco IOS's LAT code, and probably most others, given the
cost of licensing it... twas cheaper to let them do it than to get
your own license and do it... :)
(this from memory and various readings on the Net)
--f
Okay, I've seen a picture of a PDP-8/L and the switches are
correct. But someone went and replaced the front panel on
it so it is dark lettering on a white background, with no
company logo...
Darn...
Megan
>It could be what's referred to as a MARS (Memory Address and Register
>Status) panel. The only one of those I've ever seen was at our PDP8 FS
>lab in Parker Street. It's a full-height rack panel (same height as the
>8/E) with several rows of lights for PC/AC/MQ/etc.
The front panel consists of the following
EA MA INST
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
MB F E D WC CA B
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
Link AC Ion Par Prot Run
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
POWER | paddle switches
SWITCH
- - - - -
The boards hang from the backplane (which is really grimey... can
someone suggest how to clean it?) and are reachable from under
the chassis:
Front panel end
============================
M220 M220 M113 M111
M220 M220 M700 M700
M220 M220 M216 M115
M220 M220 M114 M310
M220 M220 M216 M310
M220 M220 M111 M310
M617 M617 M216 M310
M617 M617 M115 M160
M160 M160 M119 ----
M115 M216 M117 ----
M160 M111 M115 M113
M160 M113 M117 M111
M115 M119 M113 M310
---- ---- M113 M310
fan ---- ---- ---- M216
side ---- ---- M360 M617
G020 G020 G221 G221
G020 G020 G221 G221
G020 G020 memory
W025 W025 memory
W025 W025 memory
G228 G228 G221 G221
---- G228 G221 G221
G624 G624 G228 G228
G624 G624 M102 ----
G624 G624 M623 M623
G785 G785 M115 M623
---- ---- M660 M906
---- ---- M660 M906
---- ---- M707 M707
M516 ---- M706 M706
M516 ---- M452 20ma console connecter
---- ---- ---- ----
M111 ---- ---- ----
---- ---- ---- ----
============================
fuses, power cord
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) |
| Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
Unfortunately, I never had access to DECnet/Ultrix... that was done
in a different group. I don't think it was ever updated for later
versions of Ultrix. It may still just run, though. I think the
last version of it was V4.2.
I'm not sure what the legal issues are about Lat, though... I think
it is owned (or is it only marketed) by Meridian, ltd.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) |
| Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
