>Free PDP 11/84 for rescue in the UK.
>
>Please contact David directly if you're in the UK and can rescue this
>machine.. Also, can someone who is on classiccmp forward this to that
>list as well?
>
>thanks.
>
>Bill
>
>----- Forwarded message from David Warden <david(a)aulis.demon.co.uk> -----
>
>Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:59:44 +0100
>From: David Warden <david(a)aulis.demon.co.uk>
>To: mrbill(a)mrbill.net
>Subject: Re: PDP 11/84
>Cc: david(a)aulis.demon.co.uk
>
>Bill,
>
>Thanks for your prompt reply.
>
>Please do forward my details to your contacts in the UK. I look forward to
>hearing from them.
>
>Its great to get such a positive response. I have been trying on and off for
>about a year to find a new home for this machine as I really do need the
>space. I've always thought it was too good for scrap which was why I
>saved it in the first place.
>
>Its in two DEC cabinets each 40in high x 20in wide x 30in deep. Once I've
>dug it out from under three years accumulated clutter I can send further
>details and/or pictures to anyone who is interested. It spent most of its
>life in a climate-controlled equipment room at the hospital and I've
>kept it in the house since so it is in quite clean condition.
>
>Once again, thanks for your help.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>David.
>
>---
>
>David,
>
>With your permission, I'll forward this to a group of people who collect
>and rescue such machines from the skip and give them a good home. I'd take
>it myself, if I wasnt thousands of miles away. 8-)
>
>Let me know, and I'll forward this and have people contact you directly.
>
>Bill
>
>On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:50:45PM +0100, David Warden wrote:
> > Dear Sir,
> > I am trying to find a good home for a DEC PDP 11/84 mini computer
> (circa 1986
> > vintage) which I salvaged in 1997 and whose space I now need.
> > The working (when last powered up in 1999) system comprises the following
> > main components:
> > 11X84-BB
> > TU80-CB
> > RA81-AD
> > and boots DSM 11 version 4.1.
> > It was in use until 1997 running a laborartory system at a district
> > general hospital. Since then it has been stored in the study at my
> house in
> > Gloucestershire, England.
> > I am keen that this system should go to someone who will appreciate it
> > and not just strip it for spares or try to sell it. If you have any
> > bona fide contacts in the South West of England who might be interested
> then
> > I would be grateful if you could forward my e-mail details on to them.
> > I do not want to advertise on the web or in the news groups since I don't
> > want to get spam for everafter and want to be sure that anyone I deal
> with is
> > genuine.
> > Thanks in anticipation of your help.
> > Yours faithfully,
> > David Warden
>
>----- End forwarded message -----
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Free PDP 11/84 for rescue in the UK.
Please contact David directly if you're in the UK and can rescue this
machine.. Also, can someone who is on classiccmp forward this to that
list as well?
thanks.
Bill
----- Forwarded message from David Warden <david(a)aulis.demon.co.uk> -----
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:59:44 +0100
From: David Warden <david(a)aulis.demon.co.uk>
To: mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Subject: Re: PDP 11/84
Cc: david(a)aulis.demon.co.uk
Bill,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
Please do forward my details to your contacts in the UK. I look forward to
hearing from them.
Its great to get such a positive response. I have been trying on and off for
about a year to find a new home for this machine as I really do need the
space. I've always thought it was too good for scrap which was why I
saved it in the first place.
Its in two DEC cabinets each 40in high x 20in wide x 30in deep. Once I've
dug it out from under three years accumulated clutter I can send further
details and/or pictures to anyone who is interested. It spent most of its
life in a climate-controlled equipment room at the hospital and I've
kept it in the house since so it is in quite clean condition.
Once again, thanks for your help.
Best Regards,
David.
---
David,
With your permission, I'll forward this to a group of people who collect
and rescue such machines from the skip and give them a good home. I'd take
it myself, if I wasnt thousands of miles away. 8-)
Let me know, and I'll forward this and have people contact you directly.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:50:45PM +0100, David Warden wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> I am trying to find a good home for a DEC PDP 11/84 mini computer (circa
1986
> vintage) which I salvaged in 1997 and whose space I now need.
> The working (when last powered up in 1999) system comprises the following
> main components:
> 11X84-BB
> TU80-CB
> RA81-AD
> and boots DSM 11 version 4.1.
> It was in use until 1997 running a laborartory system at a district
> general hospital. Since then it has been stored in the study at my house in
> Gloucestershire, England.
> I am keen that this system should go to someone who will appreciate it
> and not just strip it for spares or try to sell it. If you have any
> bona fide contacts in the South West of England who might be interested
then
> I would be grateful if you could forward my e-mail details on to them.
> I do not want to advertise on the web or in the news groups since I don't
> want to get spam for everafter and want to be sure that anyone I deal
with is
> genuine.
> Thanks in anticipation of your help.
> Yours faithfully,
> David Warden
I _definitely_ want in on a UYK-20 if any become available! Please
let me know!
-al-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Sharp [mailto:jss@subatomix.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: uyk-20?
>
>
> On Friday, October 18, 2002, Joe wrote:
> > Excellant suggestion! My father is also interested in
> disposing of his
> > Teletype systems and they're looking for some of those too
> so I might be
> > able to load them up.
>
> Oh boy, you're gonna get a few responses here saying *that*! I need a
> Teletype for my PDP-11/20. And, since I just found out I was
> getting hired,
> I might actually have money in a month or two.
>
> How many TTYs do you have, and where are they?
>
> --
> Jeffrey Sharp
>
I recently gained a Pro-350 and a "Robin" VT-180. I know where I can
get various bits of OS for the Pro, but nothing for the Robin. I've
checked the two CP/M archive sites I knew about and done a little
Googling -- I didn't find anything, though I did see a pointer to
Don Maslin and get the impression he may be able to provide disks
for some sort of fee.
Anybody have a pointer to something on the 'Net? There's nothing
like instant gratification, y'know... ;^)
Thanks!
--
Ob. Tick quote:
The morning sun rises to greet him, and in its low warm light he
stands like some sort of... of Pagan God or... deposed tyrant, staring
out over the city he's sworn to ... to stare out over. And its evident
just by looking at him that he's got some pret-ty heavy things on his
mind.
-- The Tick, "The Tick vs. Dinosaur Neil"
--Steve.
Steve Jones ...!uunet!crash.com!smj Arlington, Mass.
CRASH!! Computing (any spambots parse bang paths?) +1 781 MID BYTE
"Chaos will ensue if the variable i is altered..." - SysV Programmers Guide
Well, I grabbed the domain crash.com in the Great Internet Domain
Name Land Grab of the early 90's. So when I'm naming machines, I
have an overpowering urge to use Unix signal names.
The firewall was Segv [.11], is now Hup [.1]; desktops have been
Buserr [.10] and Abort [.6]; web server is Fpe [.8]; main file-
server had to be Io [.23]. The higher numbered signals tend to
vary from one Unix flavor to another, unfortunately... This only
applies to working machines; collection machines are liable to
get boring names like different deities, different pantheon per
manufacturer. I know, I know, how predictable...
In a previous life as IT guy for a smallish ISV desktop machines
were named with input from the user, if they seemed likely to
have a good idea or insisted. Lab machines would typically be
named by vendor and sequence, as they were rotated/replaced on
something like a 12-18 month cycle. The two fileservers I put
together (to get them to stop cross-mounting everything!) got
named Inode and Vnode... External FTP server got named Beyond,
as I recall.
When we brought in a big team of developers and ordered their
machines on short notice, I went with another common theme:
T lines and stops (that's "subway" to those not in Boston ;^)
Servers became Redline, Greenline, etc. Machines became stops
on these lines (Alewife, Copley, Kenmore, Lechmere, etc). The
original plan had been stops for servers and nearby streets
for nodes, but we were rushed...
The name I'm still most fond of is the first machine I was
allowed to name. I started working in the VAX Resource Center
at MIT back in '89 and was handed a VAXstation II, some TK50's
and books, and told to learn VMS from a system managers point
of view (I'd been a user for a couple years). Since I was and
am a big fan of Buckaroo Banzai I called it Yoyodyne.mit.edu
(and YOYO::), and after I finished my VMS lessons it got
reloaded with Ultrix 3.x/UWS 2.x. I got a lot of complements
on the name; several people tried to tell me something about
this Thomas Pynchon guy, but I was more interested in reading
things by Henry Spencer or Rob Pike... ;^)
Ob. Tick quote:
DO NOT:
1. Eat in Lab
2. Set Lab on Fire
3. Innovate Unnecessarily
-- Sign in Dinosaur Neil's Tent
"The Tick vs. Dinosaur Neil"
--Steve.
Steve Jones ...!uunet!crash.com!smj Arlington, Mass.
CRASH!! Computing (any spambots parse bang paths?) +1 781 MID BYTE
"Chaos will ensue if the variable i is altered..." - SysV Programmers Guide
>I am curious what your favorite cp/m system might be. I am getting an itch
>for some late-70/early-80/pre-msdos kind of box.
Well,
- For portability, I like the Osborne 1. I had a Kaypro 4 '84, and I admit
the larger screen was nice, but for 'cool factor', I just like the Osborne.
- For a desktop/all-in-one, the Televideo TS-803 is my pick. The graphics
capabilities are quite nice, and the screen is large for an all-in-one.
Also a nice large clicky keyboard. Wish I had the 803-H, though (built-in
hard drive) :-(. I do also have a Xerox 820-II (a fine machine), but I like
the style of the Televideo case better (not as industrial looking), and the
Xerox drives are external, so they just don't look as nice :-)
- For taking up rack/desk space, I have a CompuPro S-100 system -- Dual CPU
(Z80H and 80286), a separate box containing dual 8" floppies (Qumetrak 842
SS/DS, SD/DD), and a separate box containing dual 5.25" 96tpi floppies and a
40 MB Hard Drive. All of this drives a pristine Heath H-19 terminal with a
sweet graphics board. This is definitely my favorite overall system...
- For a system that runs CP/M that wasn't designed to run CP/M :-), I like
my Platinum Apple IIe w/ Microsoft SoftCard. I had a C-64 w/ the CP/M
cartridge, and I also had a C-128 (which really was designed to run CP/M),
but the IIe appeals to me. Especially the Microsoft CP/M card :-) (from
back when they made good products :-))
Rich B.
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I remember hearing the Osborne likened to a VW, the Kaypro to a Chevy, and
the Otrona to a BMW. I had an Osborne and Otrona, while a friend had a
Kaypro. Between the Osborne and Kaypro, I'd probably go with the Kaypro now
-- larger screen, slightly better graphics (IIRC), but it has a strange disk
format that makes copying to other formats more difficult. The Otrona's
still the coolest of the three, and if you can get an 8:16, you can easily
use it to copy disks to/from IBM PC 360KB format.
Desktop CP/M machines (as opposed to luggables) are a different subject, of
which I have little knowledge. Always heard good things about Epsons, except
that they often went down strange proprietary paths and never got much
market share.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: J.C. Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:44 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: cp/m favorite?
And the ever popular Otrona, which I personally consider a little
nicer
than the Kaypros. However, for sheer cool, nothing beat the IMSAI. One
day, I will have space to light mine up again. Living on a houseboat is
great, but sometimes the space issue is a little frusterating. Like there's
no room for a PDP/11 here...
--John
gil smith wrote:
> Hi folks:
>
> I am curious what your favorite cp/m system might be. I am getting an
itch
> for some late-70/early-80/pre-msdos kind of box. Of the transportables, I
> recall working with a kaypro years ago that seemed decent,
> Me, too. I have a GDM-20E20 that's gotten all fuzzy (not
> convergence - it's achromatic). Love to know what I can
> tweak.
Focus. It should be on the line output transformer.
Lee.
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I saw this in comp.os.cpm, but didn't see it here, so for those who don't
read that group, Les Solomon passed away this weekend at the age of 80.
More details from Stan Veit on http://www.imsai.net/ ...
I did not know Les, but he definitely led an interesting life, and I know he
was well-respected and cared about ...
:-(
Rich B.
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Hi Joe
You might let these folks know about these. They
have a need for one of these:
http://www.qsl.net/bb62/wishlist.html
Later
Dwight
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>
> Does anyone have any info on this computer? I've found one at a scrap place
and they're supposed to be getting a several more of them in. I pulled some of
the cards from this one and they're marked Sperry-Rand. I checked the date codes
on some of the ICs and they were all dated 1977. I pulled eight large core
memory boards out of this one. Any body know what the memory capacity is on
these?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
