Just a note from a museum person who stumbled upon your discussion from
March '01...too bad you have this antagonistic attitude - you could
probably share resources with a local museum and do a lot of good. They
would love the information you could provide (and maybe do some public
good with?), and they might have resources (including potential access
to grant money, etc.) that you would also enjoy. It doesn't seem like
them offering someone a tax incentive should be such a problem in that
case...
Best wishes,
Tim
>And what're all you ClassicCmpers doing reading e-mail on Windows PCs
and
>Macs anyhow? How embarassing. :-)
>
>-brian.
Simple, other than PCs the only netable machines I have are, Vaxen,
PDP-11s.
Of those the PDP-11s really dont have a OS that supports IP networking
and
the vaxen are all serial consoles (no graphics). Doable on vaxen but not
practical.
I might do it on a CP/M crate but then I need a PC to run PPOE to serial
gateway.
Its a matter of expediency and general need for modern compatability even
if I
hate PCs in general.
Allison
>> ST15150N Seagate 3.5" 4.3GB 1.6" Half Height SCSI H-ST-15150N
>> Narrow 50-pin
> It should, but I don't have a lot of confidence in old Seagate
drives.
Hmm, if that's one of the Barracuda drives, I've run one for several years
without trouble. They do get *very* hot though, so make sure you've got a
decent cooling system.
cheers
Jules
Hi everyone,
I would like to acquire a DEC Server 700 (8 port version is fine) to use
with my VAX VLC cluster project. I've got a DEC Server 300/MC that is a
stand in but with the VLCs it doesn't "blend" very well :-). Anyway, I'm
willing to pay money for it ($50 - $75), I would even trade a MicroVAX
III board set (16MB RAM + KA650 CPU), but they do seem to get run up
rather quickly on Ebay for some reason (I guess they work well!) No
doubt they will eventually begin falling from the sky but for now, who
knows.
--Chuck
Unisys "Micro A"
Anybody know about such a system?
I took in a stray cat system a few months ago, started
parting it out, saw something interesting, then put it all
back together again. Today I booted it up (fits on 15A,
hurrah!) and determined the following:
Base system:
Intel mobo w/8MB
Adaptec SCSI
OS/2 on SCSI disk
internal SCSI tape (QIC)
external SCSI tape (DAT)
VGA card
Add-Ons:
Unisys "Micro A" CPU card (perhaps DC113)
daughter memory card
two multiplexed serial cards
Another Adaptec SCSI card,
apparently for the Uni half of the system.
Another Internal SCSI drive
two external drives
Surprized it actually does stuff.
The "Micro A" system is controlled by three OS/2 Apps:
Admin, ODT 1,
and SCS (System Control Subsystem) (nice name) (huh?).
ODT 1 is a cryptic CLI system,
SCS is a boot console for the HW
Anybody got any beans to spill on this?
is it just a big printer controller?
I noticed the Micro A is apparently microcontrolled.
What was it sold for?
John A.
I have one with the SCSI/com card.
There is also Uzi unix for the SB180, on the www.psyber.com/~tcj
site.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: ClassiComp <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: SB-180?
> I've been talking to another SB-180 owner and it's rekindled my
interest
>in them. I'm wondering how many other SB-180 owners there are on the
>list? Does anyone have any interesting stories to tell about them?
>
> Joe
>
>I'm seriously considering purchasing a full system from these folks, but
>I've never twiddled with NextStep/Openstep before. Is there much software
>out there for NeXT hardware?
Ron's a good guy. I've dealt with him on a number of occasions and he's
pretty knowledgable about the NeXT systems. As for the software, there are
a number of CD's, including one called Nebula, that has quite a selection of
software for the OS. I believe that Black Hole sells some of them as well.
Jeff
>From: jpero(a)sympatico.ca
>> From: Geoff Reed <geoffr(a)zipcon.net>
>>....
>> you'll need to use FWB or another 3rd party HD toolkit, apple's HD
>> formatter won't work with that drive.
>>
>...
>Begin searching for the HD SC 7.3.5 formatter patch info, it will
>detail how to manually patch it with free editor also from apple too.
>The mod is only a hex and easy to find to mod on.
>...
>Wizard
The URL's I found on http://euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html were a
little out of date - but starting with ftp.apple.com and using
"English-NorthAmerican" instead of "US" I got there. There may be other
pointers. Have not tried out the patched version yet.
I love this list. I actually needed this info today - and here it is!
Thanks, Wizard!
NeXT problem - got an IBM DPES-31080 off of ebay (mea culpa, perhaps I
deserve the consequences). I can hook it up and it is recognized by the
NeXT SCSI bus [1] as a "COMPAQPCDPES31080", so it's not totally dead.
Unfortunately the first thing I did to it was run sdform. Sdform completed
normally, didn't complain. Then tried to run "disk" to change the label and
put a boot block in. I can read the label and change what "disk" sees as
the label, but when I do that, or anything else, I get a lot of messsages
that say
sd1: incomplete disk transfer: bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1
I tried format from the "disk" interactive list. No complaints. Back to
write label, or init, or any of the other options - same error message.
Gave the drive to the local support desk - they "formatted" it no problems
on a WinNT machine. I have an email out to them to ask whether they
actually initialized it after that or not. Interestingly, they report the
DPES has a different label than what I put on it and what my copy of "disk"
still reports for it.
Next thing I'll do, barring any better suggestions, is pop it into a Power
Mac 8500 in a lab here and play with it using patched HD SC 7.3.5 (see
above).
Suggestions solicited and welcome. The drive is at home today, will be back
in the office with the tools tomorrow.
- Mark
[1] But not always. It's not recognized, whether its active termination is
on or not, if it's the only drive on the SCSI chain. It is recognized in an
external case with one other drive and with one internal drive, and it's
recognized if it's on the internal bus with the other internal drive. Not
if it's internal alone. Have not tried it external alone.
I ran across this page whilst surfing...
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/vax1.html
Basically, it's Dennis Ritchies notes from their first meeiting with
DEC on the VAX 11/780...
Classic quote:
They talked some about software. It was rather depressing. Most of it will
be emulated. (Presumably in a 2MB machine you will still have to tell the
assembler how
big a symbol table to use.) The system itself will be new, but
unimaginative. They did not seem to understand, for example, why or even
how the command
interpreter should be a separate process and not in the system, and why
commands themselves should be processes. They are also still stuck mostly
in assembly
language. There are companies that are learning about how to write
software, but DEC is evidently not one of them.
Guess what OS their talking about :)
clint
Yeah... I suspect there's one or two truly strange hippies in a warehouse
somewhere in Colorado running this place. Think Jim & Malvin from WarGames
+ a few years and drugs.
I smell one hell of a sitcom brewing.
I'm seriously considering purchasing a full system from these folks, but
I've never twiddled with NextStep/Openstep before. Is there much software
out there for NeXT hardware?
-carl
Ethan Dicks
<ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.co To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
m> cc:
Sent by: Subject: Re: Seeking NeXT slab disk
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06/04/01 09:16 AM
Please respond to
classiccmp
Thanks. Goofy web page, but I ordered one.
-ethan
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