On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Tony Duell wrote: If it's the one that I think it is, it's most unfortunate, as it's a fascinating-looking place. Most disappointing. Most definitely. No one should put up with being treated like that, whether paid or unpaid. Perhaps what we need is a large server with a database set up with not only data from this list containing information about all the classic computers that we've discussed, but other information that we have as well. If we had a central place to store all of the repair information, all of the scanned in documentation, photographs and illustrations, all of the shareable software and other data files pertaining to older systems, and any other information about the older systems that we could store in such a system, and had that mirrored in a few places, that would be a great help to people in the future when we're all gone. As it is, there's a huge amount of information scattered all over about all sorts of various older systems, but much of it is data that could easily disappear in an instant without a trace. I'm not suggesting that people don't keep their own archives, however, as keeping them, and passing them on to others, is also a much needed safety net which can protect a huge amount of information. Museums, it seems, are still basically disinterested in such wide-scale preservation projects; hopefully I'm wrong, and some are interested. It was the museum's loss; I recall you mentioning this at an earlier time, and it was a very unfortunate thing that they treated such a great resource of helpful knowledge (you) in such a manner; they were extremely foolish to turn away such knowlege. Also, as a result of learning how they reacted to an kind offer of help, I decided not to send them a donation that I was planning to send. How do they manage to keep the building(s) housing the museum standing? It makes one wonder... Do they borrow useful nails and bolts from elevators, stairwells and floor joists to use elsewhere? -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)perqlogic.com 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.perqlogic.com beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

There was an article about the new director of the Smithsonian in the New York times about a month ago. You gathered from the description that his priorities were, in order: Increase corporate $$ donations, increase museumgoer attendance, decrease costs, and forget research. This tended to make the Dir. rather unpopular with the standing members of the museum staff. P.S. His income: $450K John A.

It was <dollar-sign><dollar-sign> in Unicode utf-7. I think when I use reply-to I get different char encoding, possibly variable, than if using ``New''. Amazingly, even though the header is bound to the message, MS will deny showing me, now, the message in the intended format, there seems to be no way to turn off an viewer encoding override, yeah, there is an 'auto select' setting present in the menus, but it doesn't. So I have to go through the menus to find the matching view. I'd been trying to stay out of the encoding thread because I knew I was living in a glass house. Another gripe: There is no way to view message source before sending it, even in the Drafts folder. To MS: Brilliant, Guys! John A. (lets see what the header source is this time) ----- Original Message ----- From: r. 'bear' stricklin &lt;red(a)bears.org&gt; To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: you vs. museums On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, John Allain wrote: ^^^^^^^^ Okay, what the heck does this mean? I keep seeing it used. ok r. Apologies! -JEA

I agree, I've voulenteered for museums locally here in the seattle area before and they work you to death and then you get no thanks from the museum. one p[lace I voulenteered at didn't even have a water fountain accessable for those of us slaving for them, they pointed us at their "gift/snack" shop and informed us we'd have to buy it, the free drinks (and all we wanted was water) were for staff only. At 11:51 PM 6/3/01 -0700, you wrote: