test-drb February 2001

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175 participants
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by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

What a weekend!!! day -1: Thursday. Helped a friend dig out and load stuff to take to the hamfest. Found and bought two Osborne computers. One turns out to be an early Osborne 1, NOT an OCC-1. It has a display but appears to have a bad capacitor in the power supply judging from the ripple. It got all the original manuals and software with it. The other machine is an OCC-1. I had previously found the software and manuals for this one so now it's intact again. This one works great! day 0: Friday. Hamfest starts but opened earlier than on previous years so I get there after they open. Eveything is picked over but I still manage to find a new in box Survey ROM for the HP-41. Also included is a 41 battery holder, one manual and some other bits and pieces. Later I find a new in box HP 71B. Also in the box was a brand new HP-71 ROM from Pratt and Whitney that is used to determine where to place weights to balance an H-60 helicopter engine. Also got the instructions for the ROM. The odd thing about this 71 is that the box has a label that says that it is a "Computer, Fire Control". That's the name that the US Army calls the HP-71s that are used as a backup system for computing artillery fire. I have the manuals for that system along with a bunch of the ROMs and several (badly) used HP-71s. This is the first time that I've seen one of these 71s NIB. This one is in PERFECT condition. Day 1: Saturday. LOADS of good finds this day! Frist, a dealer friend of mine says that he has a surprise for me and to come back after he unloads. I return later and find that he has two HP-41 CV calculators for me (Yippie!). Both are in the cases and have all the accessories. They're also the later half-nut models. One even has a survey ROM in it. Go to another stand and find that the guy has a VAN LOAD of books from the estate of a farily well known author in electronis, J.A. (Sam) Wilson. I spent SEVERAL hours going through all the books. I eneded up with TWEVLE large boxs of physics, mathematics, computer and engineering books. Too many GREAT books to describe some some of the highlights include Mick and Brick's book on Bit-Slice CPUs, loads of OLD DEC manuals, loads of '70s data books, a Heathkit ET-3400 with ALL the manuals, Intel manuals for the MDS systems and lots more! Check another stand and found a manual for a Tektronix 4596 Graphics tablet for use with the Tektronix 4051 computer. Then I really find a a goodie! A Zenith Z-100 computer in great condition and with the built in hard drive for $10! Later I find a brand new in the box HP Thinkjet printer with the HP-IL inteface. I also picked up a "Intext" model XK-300 Microprocessor Trainer made by Elenco Electronics Inc. Does anyone know anything about these? It looks similar to the Heathkit ET-3400 but has a Motorola 6802 CPU. Day 2: Sunday. Things are slow today but I still manage to score a nice RS-232 analyzer for $1. Also found another boxfull of books! One in the great finds is a copy of "The Complete Motorola MicroComputer Data Library" printed by Motorola in 1978. This is a THICK book and it describes ALL of their EXOR-bus cards and systems along with all the other EXOR-TERM systems and other items including all of the cards that they made for the DEC systems. It also has data sheets for all of their digital ICs. It also lists all the software that they sell and all their Developement systems! This a great reference manual! I also find two HP Electro-Optics catalogs >from the early '70s. One lists and describes the displays used in the HP Spice series of calculators. I've never found that before. The second one describes in detail the display system used in the HP 35 and other classic HP calculators. Both of these are going to be very handy! The only other sgnificant find is a Remote Relay Actuator and sensor control box that's operated by RS-232. Well that's the highlights. Now I have to go clean out the car. AND my truck. AND my buddy's van! They're all full! Joe

23 years, 10 months

Dejanews

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Musta happened this weekend. I just did a search and the results came back EXTREMELY fast, with fewer advertisment and a lot less BS on the page. I've always been a fan of DEJANEWS but, This might not be a bad thing. Steve >From: Julian Richardson <JRichardson(a)softwright.co.uk> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Dejanews >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:33:44 -0000 > > >OK, what on earth happened to the Dejanews archive? Seems like they've been >taken over by Google (leading us one step closer to a single corporation >controlling the entire world, no doubt! :-) > >I didn't see any advance warning of this, nor can I see any date for when >the archives will be back online on the site. Are there any other usenet >archive sites out there? (preferably ones that aren't web based, or have a >better interface than the awful Dejanews one - or the even poorer Google >search result format!) > >cheers > >Jules. > >ps. this is serving somewhat as a test message - someone let me know if >they >can see it! :) >-- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 10 months

HPUX backup (now it's working)

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

OK... It took me awhile but, I finally figured out which "section" ISL resides on. If I'd only looked at /etc/disktab first, I probably coulda saved myself a bunch of work :-) It seems older versions of HPUX use disk section "6" for boot. Once I found that info, I did: "dd if=/dev/dsk/c1000d0s6 of=/dev/dsk/c1008d0s6 bs=1024k" and now everything is working just fine. Now that I have a complete copy of the system, I can screw around with the box all I want and not worry about loosing the OS. In the next day or two, I'll copy all the files to a WINNT box and burn a CD (an adventure unto itsself). That way, I'll have a "permanent" backup. Thanks to everyone for the help. Steve > >ISL lives in the LIF volume which is not part of a partition. >You can probably make your exact image if you use the device for the whole >disk rather than backing up by partitions. The whole disk device should >get all the partitions. > >A man lif on your 10.20 system should provide some info. > >Paul _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 10 months

Colossus code-breaking machine: seminar, Bristol, UK

by John.Honniball＠uwe.ac.uk

Just thought this might be of interest to UK readers. At least it's more than 10 years old! See Web URL at the bottom of the message. --- Begin Forwarded Message --- SEMINAR THE COLOSSUS CODE BREAKING COMPUTER - Its influence on World War II and its rebuild Presented by : Tony Sale (Hon FBCS, ex Museums Director, Bletchley Park) Venue: University of Bristol/Queen's Building/PLT Date/Time: 20th February 2001 at 5pm The Colossus was the world's first electronic computer and was built at Bletchley Park during World War II to break the German Lorenz cipher. Tony Sale has spent the last few years rebuilding the Colossus working from remaining plans, photos and the recollections of people who worked at Bletchley. The talk will begin with a discussion of the historical context of the Colossus and the part it played in shortening World War II. Tony will then move on to discuss how the Colossus is being rebuilt and report on the current status of the rebuilding project. This talk is suitable for a general audience and all are welcome. More information can be found at: http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/Research/Seminars/Crypto --- End Forwarded Message --- -- John Honniball Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk University of the West of England

23 years, 10 months

HPUX backup (sorta working)

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Thanks to all that replied before, I have been able to MOSTLY create a working backup of my HPUX 8.0 system. Still have a glitch to work out but, I'm getting a lot closer. Originally, I was using two different size disks and that wasn't working out so, now I'm using identical disks for the source and target. I am using the "dd" command to copy the data from the existing root disk partitions to the target. dd if=/dev/dsk/c1000t0d13 of=/dev/dsk/c1008t0d13 bs=1024k dd if=/dev/dsk/c1000t0d2 of=/dev/dsk/c1008t0d2 bs=1024 Now I can boot hpux on the backup disk but only if I boot ISL on the original disk. When I load ISL from the original 8.0 disk, it shows a different version than when I load ISL from the backup disk. The backup disk was previously loaded with 10.20 and it appears that dd did not overwrite that portion of the disk. Unfortunately, the 10.20 version of ISL will not boot the 8.0 version of HPUX. It reports a funky out of memory error or some such. I realize in this case that the dd command is only moving the "13" and "2" partitions of the disk and ISL is probably not on either of those partitions. "ioscan -fn -C disk" reports about 50 different special files for each drive and I really don't to wade through all of them to find the right combination. I have tried a few of the obvious like "c1000t0d0 ---> c1008t0d0" but still haven't found the right combination to copy the ISL sectors. So... the question(s) is: What partition is ISL on? Will dd copy ISL or do I have to use a different utility? Thanks, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 10 months

Amiga development (was: uVAX II Memory Board)

by rachael_＠gmx.net

Hi >To actually install Amiga UNIX requires a Commodore A2091 or A3000 SCSI >controller. Apparently someone made patches to allow AMIX to be used with GVP >controllers, but I have never seen them. (I would really like to get hold of >that, since maybe it will be possible to install AMIX on my A2000 then. But >you probably have to install AMIX before being able to incorporate the >patches...) I have a 3000 here, with superkickstart and a 250mb wangdat 6250 tape, It might be able to install it. Regards Jacob Dahl Pind -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

23 years, 10 months

HP BASIC & SRM newbie

by jate＠uwasa.fi

Hello, Some background: I was going through my computers last weekend, trying to get their operational status changed from "mothballed" to something else. I found a couple of HP 9153C & 9153s from the storage and in an act of desperation decided to connect them to a 9000/382 running HP-UX. Imagine my surprise when the 382 started booting HP BASIC! After that I went searching for another machine (found a 340, 310 and an SRM server). First I tried to boot basic on the SRM server, but that failed due to not having enough memory (512KB). I eventually got it working with the 310 + HP composite video card + Phillips monitor. A couple of questions: What can I do with it and where do I find more info ? I've never used HP BASIC so the only commands I got working were PRINT and a mysterious LIST BIN, which gave me more than a screenfull of stuff like this: "CLOCK 5.0". I assume this is HP BASIC 5.0 ? I guess I can use this with the SRM server ? Do I need extra software to go from HP-UX to SRM ? (I've go extra cards) I don't even know how the access the disk drives :) So any help is appreciated, thanks. -- jht

23 years, 10 months

GG2 bus

by optimus＠canit.se

A while ago, there was someone on this list withan overwhelming stock of Goldengate bridgeboards. Could that person please get in touch with me? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time..." Bill Gates 1988

23 years, 10 months

(no subject)

by william.webb＠juno.com

>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:41:17 -0500 >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> > Subject: Re: SCSI trouble on a MicroVAX IIGPX >>From: Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se> >>Thanks, are there any good VAX references on the WWW? All manuals I've > >been >>able to find are ULTRIX manuals, no hardware references. Iggy- Compaq has OpenVMS documentation online: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/index.html I've put the VAXstation 3100 Model 76 Owner's Guide online: http://www.whiteice.com/~williamwebb/intro/DOC-i.html Jim Agnew keeps the MicroVAX/VAXstation FAQ at: http://anacin.nsc.vcu.edu/~jim/mvax/mvax_faq.html William W. Webb (for whom VMS has provided food and shelter for over a decade) >There may be but, I have real ones so I've never looked to see. >In the case of booting even the ultrix manuals apply as it's the same >booter in rom. Of course once ultrix is in mem the differences are >obvious. >Allison ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

23 years, 10 months

Tandys/Apple ][e FCOS

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

Hey all, I was in one of my watering holes today and saw a Tandy 600 for sale. Looked fairly complete (power supply and a manual I think). Didn't check the price but this guy's usually pretty reasonable and he's got a sale going on electronics for the next couple days. Let me know if you're interested and I'll find out the price and snag it for ya. He also has a bunch of random video game controllers so if you need ANOTHER Atari joystick... ;) Also of possible interest: I have a Tandy 1000 with some software that needs a home. Don't know for sure that it works but odds are that it does. Welcome to it for the price of shipping or for trade -- anything Apple/Mac/Lisa/Commodore/Atari/videogame-related. I've decided that I need to focus a little with the collecting, and the Tandys don't really turn me on. Last item, an Apple ][e with Apple /// monitor. Both work. I don't need _another_ one and doubt anyone else does either...but yours for shipping. I live in NH. Thanks, -- MB

23 years, 10 months

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test-drb February 2001