From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>OK, this is sort of on/off-topic, but.....
>
>Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME?
Are
>there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my
wife
>a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it.
>
> Zane
WinME is W98 call it V3. It's MSs was of hiding the fact that they
continued
W98 two version past ehn they said it would end...
Allison
I think I'd trade a SOL, an Altair, and an IMSAI for a System/38 or
System/34.. Hell even for an AS/400 with a complete copy of the OS.. Not
that I have any of those 3 machines; If I did, I'm sure Bob could use
another SOL and other list members could use an Altair or an IMSAI.. I
certainly have no real place for them.. Somewhat unrelated to minicomputers.
BTW, Bob, plese e-mail me, I have a SOL-related article for you.
Will J
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Mark is entirely correct on this one.. I must say that, since I own 7
AS/400's, not ever getting the OS with them tends to make me a little
frustrated! I do have an OS/400 upgrade tape for version 2 something to
version 2 something else, but since I don't have the version you apply the
upgrade to... I also have 2 MULIC tapes (Model Unique Licensed Internal
Code), which I know are required for the OS, and are processor-specific.
Note that I am speaking only for CISC machines. Oddly, one of the things
that was with the machines was an IBM license document, I don't know what it
was for exactly, but it essentially says you can't sell the program but you
can give it to someone, so long as you destroy/give them all your copies,
yadda yadda yadda. And technically speaking, I wasn't entirely serious about
trading those 3 for any of those machines, I'd rather offer them to this
list.. The worst thing about the Altair, etc. for me at least, would be that
it would come down to a debate between the fact that I need the money and
the fact that I'd rather people who are going to appreciate the machines
have them, and naturally, it's quite possible that cash could be maximized
by selling to someone who would minimize the use, etc. of the machine.. But
if anyone ever sees any AS/400 software show up at auctions, regardless of
model, BUY IT and I will gladly reimburse you.. I'd also be especially happy
if someone found IBM 4300 software for me, especially VM/SP release 5 or 6,
or MVS (OS/VS2), or AIX/370..
Will J
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Hello, all:
I want to begin my quest for a copy of the Apple II "Red Book."
If anyone has a copy and can tell me if it has an ISBN number on it, and
what that number is, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
ClubWin! Group 1
Collector of Classic Computers
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Hi;
Jarkko Teppo wrote:
>Hello,
>Some background: I was going through my computers last weekend, trying to
>get their operational status changed from "mothballed" to something else.
>I found a couple of HP 9153C & 9153s from the storage and in an act of
>desperation decided to connect them to a 9000/382 running HP-UX. Imagine my
>surprise when the 382 started booting HP BASIC!
Actually, the '200 and '300 series started as instrument controllers using
BASIC (though PASCAL and LISP systems were also available). Then came HPUX.
>After that I went searching for another machine (found a 340, 310 and an SRM
>server). First I tried to boot basic on the SRM server, but that failed due
>to not having enough memory (512KB). I eventually got it working with the
>310 + HP composite video card + Phillips monitor.
>
>A couple of questions:
> What can I do with it and where do I find more info ?
I don't know much about the SRM server; I always used
stand-alone BASIC systems, then went straight to networked HPUX systems.
HP Basic is optimized for instrument control via HPIB. That's
about the best use for these machines; many test systems
used these little guys as controllers. I had to get rid
of my 236, 310's, 320's and 340 before I moved, and my 380 won't
run BASIC for some reason, so now I can only run HP BASIC in
one of my BASIC Language Processors (aka "viper" card).
I do have most of the DOCS for BASIC 5.0/5.1 .
> I've never used HP BASIC so the only commands I got
> working were PRINT and a mysterious LIST BIN, which gave
> me more than a screenfull of stuff like this:
> "CLOCK 5.0". I assume this is HP BASIC 5.0 ?
That is a list of the BIN modules that are built into your particular
BASIC system. You'll typically find the CS80 disk driver, the
HFS (hyerarchical file system) module, the complex arithmetic
module, the HPIB, keyboard, console, video, serial drivers .... stuff like
that.
> I guess I can use this with the SRM server ?
> Do I need extra software to go from HP-UX to SRM ? (I've go extra cards)
>
>I don't even know how the access the disk drives :)
some commands to get you started:
CAT ":, 700" will list the contents of the drive at HPIB address 0
CAT ":, 700, 1" will list the contents of the floppy if the device at
HPIB address 0 is an HP9153C
INITIALIZE ":, 700, 1" will format the floppy with default parameters
MSI ":,701" will make the drive at address 1 the default "mass storage is"
device.
COPY ":,700" TO ":,701" will duplicate the volume at adress 0 again at
adress 1
COPY "MYFILE:,700" TO "NEWFILE:,701"
Carlos.
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I wish I'd have known... how much did your TOG'L blocks
cost (I got a well-worn set)...?
-dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Foust [mailto:jfoust@threedee.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Holy Crap! IMSAI's weren't this expensive when new!
>
>
> At 08:54 PM 2/12/01 -0800, Chuck McManis wrote:
> >This is very true. I tell people this all the time, for
> things that are less than 20 yrs old (and thus have a very
> good chance of still being in the original owner's
> possession) you can trade money for time.
>
> Three cheers for eBay's ability to fulfill wishes held since early
> in life. Lately I've been acquiring toys I miss from childhood:
> latest acquisition, a TOG'L building-block set.
>
> - John
>
At 11:50 AM 2/13/01 -0000, you wrote:
>Well, it seems like I have posting access to the list again, so I'll dig out
>this little question that I keep on asking occasionally...
>
>I've got the remains of a Tektronix XD88/10 Unix workstation from the late
>80's. I've only got the system unit and the keyboard - no mouse or monitor.
>I do have a 16" sony monitor that I know works fine with it though, so that
>leaves a mouse to find from somewhere, or to make one from something else
>(no idea what protocol or type of mouse the system needs though)
What kind of connector does your mouse use? I have some Tektronix mice.
These have a DB-9M plug. I THINK I have some that use another connector
also but I'd have to dig around to be sure.
>
>The hard disk is almost dead though, starting to give read errors all over
>the place - from memory the system won't boot any more. I expect I can get a
>replacement disk easily enough - probably even a modern 3.5" SCSI drive
>would work I expect to replace the 5.25" full-height drive. The machine's
>got a SCSI-1 drive, around 400MB, but I think SCSI-2 drives will work in
>the old SCSI modes won't they? (I have a 400MB 3.5" drive which could
>replace it if so)
>
>What I don't have though is the OS tapes (a common problem for 80's hardware
>I expect!). I'm waiting to hear back from Tek but they couldn't provide any
>help last time I tried a couple of years ago. Does anyone on the list have
>such a machine or know someone who has?
I don't know where they went to but there were several machines like
that at an auction at Patrick AFB a couple of years ago. I'd suggest that
you check with Dean Kidd or some of the other guys that supply parts and
manuals for Tektronix test equipment. Also check with Rick Bensene (sp?).
He used to work for Tek and may be able to tell you more about the machine.
>
>Is it worth me trying to do a raw backup of the disk before it fails
>completely?
Absolutely!
I can put it in my main PC at home which has SCSI and read raw
>data from it under linux (not sure what filesystem Tek used, proprietary I
>expect) but don't know if I'm wasting my time there - I don't know if
>that'll give me anything useful at the end of the day anyway. Even assuming
>I could find an identical working drive and do a raw copy of the failing
>disk onto it (at the block level), would that work - or is there always
>going to be some sector translation at a lower level which meant that the
>contents of the "new" disk wouldn't make any sense when put into the system?
>
>Thanks for any help,
>
>Jules
>
>ps. I don't know how many of these machines Tek sold, but it feels like
>about 5 given the amount of information there is around about them! :-)
If so then thats about 3 more than 8170s! I've looked high and low
and found almost nothing on them. I did find one guy in Australia that used
to have one. The hard drive in my 8170 seems to be completely dead. I can't
get any response from it. Luckily I did get one floppy disk that has most
of the OS.
Joe
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