test-drb August 2000

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>But slow is the idea believe it or not :^) The idea is to have it slow >enough that any improvements are noticable, so I'll start with 5MB, and bump >it up to 9MB if that's to bad. Part of the idea is also to have DECwindows >running so I'll be giving fixing the VR260 a try. I'd been running this >system without the VR260 using a terminal because I didn't have space for the >monitor, would't you know it now that I do... 5mb is more reasonable. At 4mb doing a help screen is going to age you as it swaps itself dizzy. If memory serves the resident portion of VMS5.5 is around 3800 blocks and in 5mb there is at least a meg of loose space. I have two MVIIs so I know what your doing and how slow slow is. An aside for tuning, since the system swaps a fair amount (worse at minimal ram) a second disk with the PRIMARY page and swap files on it makes a huge difference. this is more effective if the second disk has it's own controller. A good drive for swap/page files is a RD52 (quantum D540) as it's fast and easily found (and run forever). Of course space and power for that dictates a BA123. The #2 MVII is a ba23 with CMD SCSI for the main drives and one lonesome RD52 on RQDX3 for standalone backup and page/swap files. Another trick is running VMStailor(remove unated stuff and libraries) and then doing an image backup and restore (defrag the disk). >Besides for fast I've got the PWS433au w/320MB RAM running V7.2 :^) That would be a tad faster. ;) Allison

23 years, 8 months

Semi-OT: Soldering Iron recommendations

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote: > Well I got the EC2002... > 1) Readout display... > 2) Replacable wands *and* tips. > For me at least this has been a really great piece of gear. I got two of these when Software Results closed. I had to repair both of them last year (one was already dead when I got it, the other dies later). Another vote for such equipment - it's possible to get replacement parts. One had a bad thermal sensor, the other had a bad heating element (but the two units were of different revisions, so the parts weren't exactly interchangable). It cost a few bucks, but lots less than replacements. Well built gear that's maintainable. Great units if you can find them. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

23 years, 8 months

VAX/VMS V5.5-2 Memory Requirements

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Run with 8mb, at 4mb it's going to be slow! If the VR260 is out use a terminal line, you can still run DECwindows later (or not). Allison -----Original Message----- From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: Re: VAX/VMS V5.5-2 Memory Requirements >> V5.x wants 4mb minimum to run. It can be tricked into three >> but dont try. I'd run just the 8mb board if backplane space is an issue as >> that is a comfortable config for 5.5. FYI: more memory helps only a tiny >> bit unless the machine is fairly loaded with users/apps. >> >> Allison > >Since it's a II/RC backplane space is an issue :^) Thanks for the info. >I'll probably try it with a 4MB board as I'm trying to run with as minimal >of a configuration as possible so I can play with system tuning on this >system. Of course all this depends on getting the VR260 back up and >running. > > Zane >

23 years, 8 months

Semi-OT: EPROM/PROM/PAL/.. programmer recommendations

by dburrows＠netpath.net

I use the Advantech Labtool 48. So far it has done everything I have asked of it. http://www.generaldevice.com/ He also gets various used ones in. Dan -----Original Message----- From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: Semi-OT: EPROM/PROM/PAL/.. programmer recommendations Hi, Because we are a little OT anyway, I like to take the chance and ask ;-) What is the " best" programmer, one can buy this days ? I like to program the old (2716, ...) and the new stuff. (EPROM/PALs/FLASH/...) cheers & thanks, emanuel

23 years, 8 months

Odd Honeywell Mouse

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Digging in a huge tangle of wires today I found an odd looking Honeywell > mouse. Instead of a ball, it has two wheels on the bottom angled so that > one turns on x axis and the other y axis movements. Otherwise it looks like > an old PC serial mouse, is it? Dunno, but Doug Englebart's original rodentia were made in this fashion... -dq

23 years, 8 months

Odd Honeywell Mouse

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Those are similar tot he round mouse (Hawley) that were used for the early VAXstations. Those were not PC compatable. I've never seen a mouse on a z80 system (most didn't ahve graphics). Allison -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Odd Honeywell Mouse >On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Mike Ford wrote: > >> Digging in a huge tangle of wires today I found an odd looking Honeywell >> mouse. Instead of a ball, it has two wheels on the bottom angled so that >> one turns on x axis and the other y axis movements. Otherwise it looks like >> an old PC serial mouse, is it? > >I have a no-name, most-likely prototype mouse like this that I got with >an early-80s CP/M machine. > >Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ >Looking for a six in a pile of nines... > > VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 > San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California > See http://www.vintage.org for details! > >

23 years, 8 months

VCF Requests

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > Nah... too modern! Coke and cold (leftover) pizza. A true > > > hacker classic! > > > > Add some twinkies for that extra 'get yer morning > started' boost. B^} > > > Ahhh... The four basic food groups: > > The Hostess group > ???? The Hostess Group include Twinkies, SnoBalls, Cupcakes, etc... Twinkies are an oblong angel-food cake filled with sugary cream. And for some strange reason, they are available in both a regular form, and "low-fat" form. hth, -dq > > > The Coca Cola group > > The Pizza group > > The Chinese group > > H. > > -- > VCF Europa 2.0 am 28./29. April 2001 in Muenchen > http://www.vintage.org/vcfe > http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe >

23 years, 8 months

VCF Requests

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > The Hostess Group include Twinkies, SnoBalls, Cupcakes, > > > etc... Twinkies are an oblong angel-food cake filled with sugary cream. > > > And for some strange reason, they are available in both a > > > regular form, and "low-fat" form. > > > > Is it true that the Twinkie filling with the multi-millenial shelf life is > > really an edible^H^H^H^H^H^H non-toxic form of WD-40? > > I dunno, but my ballbearings run so much better after I wedge > the cakes in. I really had to restrain myself from posting the reply I wanted to... but this is a *family* list, isn't it? 8D

23 years, 8 months

PDP-11 Equipment in Vancouver

by mark＠cs.ualberta.ca

I got a fax this week from the Greater Vancouver Regional District with a rather interesting batch of PDP11 equipment they are trying to sell. The bids close on Sept 1, and its as-is, where-is. I have the complete list of equipment, it includes: PDP 11/84 PDP 11/44 2 RA81 2 RA80 3 RL02 TU80 LA120 LA100 30 RL02 disks etc They have decided to split up the batch, so you can bid on each unit separately. If there is anyone on the list interested, we would need to find someone in Vancouver (or close by) who could organize the pickup. I can provide more information to anyone who is interested.

23 years, 8 months

VCF Requests

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > Ahhh... The four basic food groups: > > > The Hostess group > > ???? > > Don't you have Twinkies and Ding-Dongs in Germany? You know, Here in Louisville, KY area (and further south I'm told), they quit calling those things "Ding Dongs" due to the jokes. Here, they're "King Don's" Go figure. -dq

23 years, 8 months

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