test-drb August 2000

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: RE: Odd Honeywell Mouse >> Those are similar tot he round mouse (Hawley) that were used for the early >> VAXstations. Those were not PC compatable. I've never seen >> a mouse on a z80 system (most didn't ahve graphics). > >At a local electronics trade school where I worked (as a programmer and >teaching digital briefly), we had a bunch of Televideo TS-803 Z-80 based >CP/M workstations; each had a mouse port, we bought only one mouse tho; >it was an early Mouse Systems unit, optical, but requiring the dedicated >optical mouse pad. Worked quite nicely, tho, and I wrote a rudimentary >drawing program for it to create graphic objects for the computer-based >simluation of our digital trainer/breadboard systems. Never said it was never done. I said *most* didnt'. I have a triad of Visual 1050s that have a 6502+32k for graphics so I know some did. It was however quite rare for those to have a mouse and software that was mouse aware. Allison

25 years

Semi-OT: Soldering Iron recommendations

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On August 31, Tony Duell wrote: > > I'm thinking I want a WES50 Weller Soldering Station, as it looks like a > > good balance between cheapness and high-end. Of course anything would be a > > While I can't comment on that particular model, I'd certainly go for a > Weller. I'm still using one of their Magnastat TCP irons, and it's never > given me any problems. Yes, I have a TCP here too...I got it fifteen years ago, and it was old then! It has yet to give me any trouble...and for such a simple mechanism, the temperature control works very well! Kudos to Weller for making such an indestructible tool. -Dave McGuire

25 years

D'oh! Backup issue solved

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

<arrgh> Sometimes, the best answers are the most obvious. You may remember that, not long ago, I posted a blurb about having trouble backing up an old MFM drive in a 1990-vintage datascope. Specifically, that it's non-DOS format and on a proprietary controller. As I was copying the manuals for a different datascope this afternoon, the answer hit me like a lightning bolt, prompted by noticing that the pages I was copying at the time had to do with backing up the hard drive in a Digilog unit. "Maybe" I mused "the Interview 7500 has the same capability." Well, guess what? It did! It was not obvious because it was labeled "Copy Disk" instead of "Backup hard drive," but it most definitely allowed selecting the hard drive as the source and the floppy as the destination. Three 1.44 meg floppies later, I not only had a backup copy of the datascope's OS, but I also had it archived with Teledisk into long-term storage. The moral of the story is: If you run into a hard-drive operated datascope, or any other special device that has its own drive, never assume that said device has no backup routine of its very own! ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

25 years

Attn: Hams! Need help with CW/RTTY software for C64 or Apple II

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Hi, gang. Over the weekend, I picked up an old audio-to-TTL or RS-232 interface at a hamfest (AEA CP-1, for those of you who know what it is....) with joystick-port TTL cable, but no RS-232 components installed. (That might be a project for later, since I have the book/schemo/parts list). I want to use either one of my C-64's or one of my IIe's with the interface, but I lack the necessary software. Since we all love old software, and I know several of us are hams, I figured this would be as good a place as any to start looking. If I can't find anything, I'll try installing the RS-232 components to the motherboard and see if I can get a regular serial port to work and try it on my pc. But I'd really rather use the older machines for this. CW receive/decode is a priority, since I can still send with a paddle, and I'd like to try decoding some RTTY if possible. Can anyone help? Thanks. Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com

25 years

Semi-OT: Soldering Iron recommendations

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

I'm still running a wTCP60, with ground. It's the one I bought back in '79 I think. I have two the other one is older and worn but it did build the Altair, and can vote and drink in all states! Allison > Yes, I have a TCP here too...I got it fifteen years ago, and it was >old then! It has yet to give me any trouble...and for such a simple >mechanism, the temperature control works very well! Kudos to Weller >for making such an indestructible tool. > > -Dave McGuire

25 years

VAX/VMS V5.5-2 Memory Requirements

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:52 PM Subject: Re: VAX/VMS V5.5-2 Memory Requirements >Well, since part of the trick is keeping this as original as possible, I'm >pretty much torn on what to do about drives. I've got three choices. > >The system came with a RQDX3 and RD53, as the RD53 is dead I could add a >RD54. Or I could go with a WQESD and either a 150MB or 380MB ESDI drive. >Or a Viking SCSI controller and a RZ25 (with probably a RZ23L for swap). Of >the three I think I like the RD54 and the SCSI solutions best. The SCSI has >the advantage of being able to do away with the TK50 for loading the system. RQDX isn't slow just that MFM drives runs at the same data rate as eithernet which is not fast. SCSI if you have it is faster, ESDI then MFM. Two RQDX3s running two drives is MUCH faster than one RQDX3 running two spindles(err drives). Expereince has proven that. >Also as I understand it moving off of the RQDX3 is the single best thing I >can do to improve system performance. I gather the RQDX3 is only about True. >Oh, the trying to keep it as original as possible means I'm being foolish >and limiting myself to the BA23 with the crippled 5-slot backplane, instead >of replacing the backplane with the 8-slot spare I've got. I've never >claimed this is a rational project :^) so I'll probably go the RQDX3/RD54 >route at least to start. Suit yourself. I have a std BA23 and a 123 and if I had a choice I'd run two ba123s for perfomance and cooling reasons. >Who knows when I get bored I may pull the VAXstation II/GPX carcass out of >storage and see just how far I can soup it up compared to the >VAXstation II/RC :^) Start with two RQDX3s rather than one or better yet CMD scsi. Pack it with ram 16mb for MVII. Allison

25 years

VCF Requests i.e. liquid and solid fuel

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- "Charles P. Hobbs (SoCalTip)" <transit(a)lerctr.org> wrote: > > White Castle. Ugh, filthy things. > > I've heard those called "murder burgers". When they hit your stomach, > it was murder... Sliders. Gut Busters. Gut Bombs. Rat Burgers. You get the picture. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

25 years

VCF Requests i.e. liquid and solid fuel

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I vote for greasy burgers and Pepsi I seem to remember writing lots of code and punching lots of cards late at night or early in the morning fueled by a couple of 2 liter bottle of Pepsi and many Jack-in-the-Box burgers. The only problem was when I finally went to bed I was unable to sleep and ran/walked through my code several more times. My father, the doctor, finally diagnosed the problem as way too much sugar and caffeine. I have heard that 1 or 2 dozen White Castle burgers is another substitute. Now 20 years later I've given up the Pepsi to prevent the ulcer. Mike Old Code Dog

25 years

Nuclear Data Cards

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Umm the only nuclear data cards I've seen date to the late 60's and there is no way in hell they would ever go in an LSI-11... I've wondered if the ones I've seen are from their clone of the PDP-8 but I dunno, guess they'll just stay the scrapper (the ones I know of that is). Will J _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

25 years

Article copy - PE November 1981

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Does anyone have this issue of Popular Electronics? I'm looking for Part 3 of a series by Randy Carlstrom titled "Designing with the 8080 Microprocessor". Parts 1 and 2 appeared in the 9/81 and 10/81 issues of PE, respectively. If someone can scan this for me, I'd be most greatful. Contact me at home (rcini(a)msn.com) Thanks again. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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