test-drb June 2000

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by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, A friend of mine picked up a nice sony 17" (Mac) monitor, and it has the old style DB15 connector. He wants to use it as a VGA monitor on his PC and I don't know offhand what the pinouts are, on either end. I can make a quick adapter to see if it works okay or not for him. Kind regards -- Gary Hildebrand ghldbrd(a)ccp.com

24 years, 1 month

Finds in Pittsburgh, PA

by pat＠transarc.ibm.com

For anyone local (or who can get here relatively easily) and would be interested in this .... I stopped by the Goodwill Computer Store over the weekend, and saw that they have a bunch (maybe two dozen) SPARCstation IPC's and IPX's, for which they are asking $25.00/each. The people in the store didn't know anything about their configurations (as they said, "We're pretty clueless about those boxes"....), so I don't know if they come with any memory or disk, and I didn't bother trying to open any of them up. Some appear to have graphics accelerators, though (based on looking at occupied Sbus slots on the back of the machine). There are also a couple of SPARCstation 1+ and SPARCstation 2 machines, in about the same price range, plus a about half a dozen HP/Apollo Series 700 machines for which they are asking $37.50. None of these machines appear to include any keyboards or mice. There are a few Sun monitors on the shelf, but they are being sold separately. To the best of my knowledge, the store does not ship, so you'd have to physically visit there to make a purchase. I don't know who you'd talk to there if you wanted to work out a "special deal" of some kind (e.g., purchasing several machines at once, for a lower price), since the day-to-day store staff do not have the authority to renegotiate prices. --Pat.

24 years, 1 month

In defense of NASA: was Re: Wirin' up blinkenlights

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> wrote: > > However, I will strongly disagree with anyone who believes we would be in > > the same place technologically as we are today if there had _not_ been a > > space program...large "mainstream" entities... do not "develop" > > technology, they "adopt" it. This is true of... fax machines > > (which were in vented in the 1700's BTW) > > I was aware that Toshiba was building facsimile machines in 1928 > in Japan, but I didn't know the ability to send an image to a remote > location predated the deployment of electricity. Think of Volta and his electric piles. Electricity generated by moving wires past magnets was a later development, but there was battery power in the 18th C. ISTR the device required an engraved copper plate for sending and synchronized pendula, one on each end of the transmission. I think the receiving paper was treated in some way to change color when exposed to an electric current. It wasn't very efficient, but to be able to transmit an image over a distance at all was quite a feat for its day. The practical application had to wait until the development of a national communications infrastructure. One of my favorite quotes from the telecommunications industry was a fellow who was chided for his enthusiasm about the new telephones. After all, we had the telegraph - who really needs to speak person-to-person all that badly. His (paraphrased) response: "The telephone is a wonderful device. I think at some point, every city will have one." -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

24 years, 1 month

Fax machines [WAS: Re: In defense of NASA ...]

by mgregory＠vantageresearch.com

-----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: RE: In defense of NASA: was Re: Wirin' up blinkenlights >> This is true of computers, fax machines (which >> were invented in the 1700's BTW), and telecommunications. Without some >> other force driving the creation of technology, mainstream folks don't >> change their ways. > >I was aware that Toshiba was building facsimile machines in 1928 >in Japan, but I didn't know the ability to send an image to a remote >location predated the deployment of electricity. > >-dq > Unless there is "prior art" that I'm unaware of, Doug is off by a century. See http://www.thg.org.uk/articles.htm#FACSIMILE for a brief history of the development of fax technology. Cheers, Mark.

24 years, 1 month

Last chance for tapes

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Would it be possible to get just a few of these? LIke maybe 2 or 3? -dq > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Lane [mailto:kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 1:23 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: FW: Last chance for tapes > > > For those of us that have QIC tape drives, this fellow > has a bunch > of DC6525 tapes, most of them still in their shrink wrap. > > Please contact him directly if interested. > > -=-=- <snip> -=-=- > > In article <3942FDF3.2D13(a)worldnet.att.net>, you say... > > > Subject: Last chance for tapes > > From: Jack LaBrecque <JITB(a)worldnet.att.net> > > Reply-To: JITB(a)postoffice.worldnet.att.net > > Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr, comp.sys.att, comp.periphs.scsi > > > > SONY QD6525N (Same as DC6525 from 3M) & 3M DDS-90 4mm. I > have 50-100 of > > each. Most are brand new and still in wrappers. Make me > an offer or > > they go to the dump. > > > > -- > > Semper Fi > > > > Jack L > > JITB's Home Page: > > http://home.att.net/~jitb/ > > JITB's USMC Page: > > http://home.att.net/~jitb/usmc/usmc.htm > > PFC Edward A. Peterson: > > http://home.att.net/~jitb/ed/pete.htm > > > > > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Bruce Lane, Owner/Head Honcho, > Blue Feather Technologies (http://www.bluefeathertech.com) > kyrrin [a-t] bluefeathertech {d=o=t} com > "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be > superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk) >

24 years, 1 month

Fwd: Line Printer Art

by jfoust＠threedee.com

I received this piece of fan mail from someone who had visited my Ancient Alphabetic Art page at http://www.threedee.com/jcm/aaa/ . It sounds like he's making an interesting video. I'm sure he'd appreciate any insights from list members. I haven't checked my archives to see if I have this American Gothic image. If I don't, I might beg someone to help him recover the files from his tape... - John >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:47:48 -0500 >From: Douglas Harms <dharms(a)DEPAUW.EDU> >Subject: Line Printer Art >To: jfoust(a)threedee.com > >John: > >Hi! I'm on the faculty at DePauw University in Greencastle Indiana. One >of the projects two of my students and I are currently working on is a >video of an old PDP-11/10 I have. In the video several people go back in >time to the 1970's to see the PDP-11 in action. (I know, it's pretty >corny, but what can I say?) I'd like to create a 1970's era computer >center environment for this portion of the video. One of the things I >remember from my college days (in the 70's) is line printer art; I came >upon your page at the Jefferson Computer Museum during my search and was >quite impressed with the number of images you have in your collection. > >I'd like to print some images on our line printer and was wondering if any >of your files are available for download. > >Any help or suggestions you could give me would be appreicated. > >Thanks! > >--Doug > >p.s. I actually have a mag tape I made 22 years ago on a PDP-11/45 running >RSTS that contains 10 overstrike pictures. Unfortunately, I don't seem to >be able to read this tape anymore :-( Most of these pictures are probably >duplicates of yours (playboy-type pictures, if I recall correctly), but one >is a large image of American Gothic, which I didn't see in your list. If I >am ever successful at reading these files I'd be happy to send them to you >if you'd like. >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Douglas Harms, Associate Professor of Computer Science >Department of Computer Science >DePauw University >Greencastle, IN 46135 --------------------------------------- > | Hofstadter's Law: >email: dharms(a)depauw.edu | Everything takes longer than >voice: 765.658.4727 | expected, even when Hofstadter's >fax: 765.658.4732 | Law is taken into account. >----------------------------------------------------------------------

24 years, 1 month

source for cheap TK50s?

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

24 years, 1 month

Using DECmate III from terminal

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Is it possible to use a DECmate III from a terminal if one has no monitor >or keyboard for it? Running wps278, no! that software talks to the console at the default console device addresses. >Since it's in the PDP-8 family, can it run OS/8? Yes, specifically OS278 version. Again the tube and keyboard are required. Why? the default console is devices 03/04 and those ahve been assigned via hardware to the CRT/keyboard with slushware support. Slushware is the code loaded into the alternate memory (Control pannel ram) to do "special tasks". To run it to say the printer or comm port you have to use OS278 and write a new console driver and bind the two. To do that you'd need a PDP-8 or a PDP-8 emulator. >BTW, Does anyone have any stories of favorite PDP-8 or Decmate hacks, >and, has anyone here used a DECmate for any music or sound synthesis >applications? In theory a DECmate could do music... the problem is interfacing it as there is no "bus" to grab that is easily available. the problem is one of the fully integrated system and trying to add/interface to it beyond the available design. It could be done but it would not be easy. It would be good to go to the PDP-8 FAQ and read the treatise on why a DECMATE is not a PDP-8, (almost does count!). Allison

24 years, 1 month

Big pile of HP stuff--Roanoke, VA

by ip500＠roanoke.infi.net

Forgot to include the URL for some pix of this junk. http://mh106.infi.net/~ip500/HPcomputers/

24 years, 1 month

Good News/Bad news

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well just got back from my two weeks in Houston and had a few great finds and a little bad luck. The good news is I found a number of good finds, here's a short list as some of the items are not 10 years old yet. 1. Royal TA model F1 computer, ext. floppy drive, and user's manual all for $6 2. Amiga 1040 3. Percom ext. floppy drive unit 4. 15 - Mac keyboards, no cables but they were free for the taking. 5. Team concepts printer 6. NEC MultiSpin 6X cdrom reader 7. Socrates mousesystem with tablet and mouse 8. Epson Equity LT-286e laptop not working but was also free. 9. Scan-It by digital media labs for the Mac, $8 bucks at flea market 10. Sega 3D adapter 11. Many manuals and books 12. HP 98720A 13. Amiga 1000 14. Suncom animation station computergraphics sensor pad 15. Atrai printer adapter for the 800 The list is much longer but the other items do not meet the 10 year rule. The bad news is I found a System/36 model 5362 (complete) for $50 at a thrift in Houston and I paid the folks for it and asked if I could pick it up the next day as I would need a truck to carry it. They said ok and when I came back to pick it up someone had trashed the machine by taking out 5 cards and breaking them up on the floor next to the unit. I asked the store manager to adjusted the price I had paid for it but they said I had purchased it "AS IS" and said it was not trashed when I purchased it the day before. They did agree to lower the price on a Mac 145B powerbook that I found sitting on the shelf there as a way to settle my problem. I have never had anything like this happen before. John Keys

24 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2000