Kevin wrote:
>>Do you have the original source code for focal....I've looked at the
>>focal.txt file, but i'd like to know how everything works
>>JON
>
>I don't have the FOCAL source. I'm not sure it is available. Anyone comment?
The DECUS PDP-8 Focal sources (in PAL10) are available. FOCAL.PA begins with:
/**** FOCAL 5/69 ****
/E.A.TAFT - REVISION OF FOCALW 8/68 /EAT/ 25-JUL-72
/ASSEMBLY INSTRUCTIONS FOR DECUS VERSION:
/INPUT FILES:
/ FOCAL.569 FOCAL LANGUAGE PROCESSOR
/ FLOAT.569 FLOATING POINT PACKAGE
/ EXTEND.569 EXTENDED FUNCTION PACKAGE
/ 2USER.569 2-USER OVERLAY
What I have is in the "nickel" PDP-8 DECTAPE archive rescued by me from the
University of Indiana several years ago. The Focal stuff, in particular,
is on the web at:
http://www.trailing-edge.com/~shoppa/focal/
If you were asking about FOCAL-10 (for a PDP-10), this is available on
the web as well, from the home to all good software that's PDP-10
related:
http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/www/lib10/0462/
If you want the PDP-11 (specifically, for RT-11) sources, you can
find this at the Metalab.unc.edu PDP-11 archives as DECUS entry
11-0447. Go to
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/
then go into the RT-11 archives, pick the "decus11" directory, and
you'll see three 110477 directories (d1, d2, and d3), one for each original
floppy.
I also have much RSX and DOS-11 FOCAL stuff that's not indexed yet.
I hope this helps. If none of these packages meets your needs, you
might ask again for your specific platform(s). Enjoy!
--
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>Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 09:14:09 -0500
>To: classiccmp(a)opal.tseinc.com (This address bounced)
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
>Subject: Re: classiccmp-digest V1 #3
>In-Reply-To: <200002031957.NAA33069(a)opal.tseinc.com>
>
>
>
> Since the restart of classiccmp I have only been getting
classiccmp-digest, not individual messages. This is really time consuming
as I have to check the entire message and not just the header. Is this a
feature of the new setup, or have I just been left off a list?
>
> Regards
>
> Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox
Chas E. Fox Video Productions
793 Argyle Rd. Windsor N8Y 3J8 Ont. Canada
email foxvideo(a)wincom.net Homepage http://www.wincom.net/foxvideo
On Feb 3, 22:53, Glenatacme(a)aol.com wrote:
> Sadly, the WD1770 fcd IC in my home-brew fd i/o board finally gave up the
> ghost. Fourteen years of service is admirable -- when it finally
croaked,
> I felt like weeping.
> Does anyone know of a source for these? Or the 1772 (I believe Tony
Duell
> once mentioned that the 1772 could replace the 1770 in most cases -- but
I
> could be wrong).
The 1772 was designed to be a plug-in replacement. The main (only?)
difference is in the programmed step rates.
> Also, I understand that the C64 floppy drives (1581?) used the 1770 but
I'm
> not a commie and can't immediately verify this.
I'd be surprised if so. I thought all Commodore micros apart from their
ill-fated PCs used GCR. There are plenty of list members who know much
more about C= stuff than I do, though...
Atari STs used the 1772, so that's another potential source.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
When requesting original DEC source code one must include flavor (12 bit,
16bit, 18bit, 36 bit) and vintage (Focal-1968, Focal-1969, Focal-1970, Focal
1.0b, etc), and style (preliminary, beta, released).
I received a huge amount of original commented FOCAL source code/OP system
source code in many different formats [paper tapes, dectapes, floppies, rk05
packs, etc..] from the DEC load. I hope to put the code online this year
but....what do you need?
john
PDP-8 and other rare mini computers
http://www.pdp8.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin McQuiggin <mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca>
To: Jon Andrews <Jon.Andrews(a)jaywalk.co.uk>
Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: Focal
>Hi Jon:
>
>I don't have the FOCAL source. I'm not sure it is available. Anyone
comment?
>
>Kevin
>
>At 03:32 PM 00/02/03 +0000, you wrote:
>>Do you have the original source code for focal....I've looked at the
>>focal.txt file, but i'd like to know how everything works
>>
>>JON
>>
>>
>
>---
>Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
>mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
>
Hi Jon:
I don't have the FOCAL source. I'm not sure it is available. Anyone comment?
Kevin
At 03:32 PM 00/02/03 +0000, you wrote:
>Do you have the original source code for focal....I've looked at the
>focal.txt file, but i'd like to know how everything works
>
>JON
>
>
---
Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
>NOBODY had any serious difficulty using the old system.
That is an assumption on your part... it just so happens that some of us
did have problems with the old system. It seems that maybe we just didn't
complain about it enough... :-)
>SOME people have some difficulty with the new system.
Parity...
In fact, for this 'response', I decided to simply make it a new 'send' to
the list, so the original author won't get a second copy of this
message... this is easier for me than to have to search for and then
cut-and-paste the address of the author if I want to send just to them...
after all, the list is at a fixed address (for now).
After all that, however, I'm going to withdraw my vote for the new system,
I'll abstain. I'll get by with whatever is available (so long as it isn't
the HTML-cr*p)... I do like Sellam's argument about information lost due
to doing a reply and having it go only to the author and not the list.
My $.02
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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Guys:
Anyone out there that still uses these?
I have a bunch of spares (boards and r/w heads)
for 'em. If there's any interest, please e-mail me
privately.
Jeff
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To All,
I just obtained a board which I think is an EPROM programming board for the
AIM or KIM or ???, and I'm trying to find some information on it. It is not
an RM65 board, the connector looks like it would plug right to an AIM. Here
is a description:
Measures 4-7/16 (4.4375)inches wide by 6-1/2 (6.5) inches long, including
edge connector, lengthwise insertion.
44 pin gold plated edge connector with a 44 pin socket mounted immediately
behind and parallel to the edge connector, on the component side of the PCB.
24 pin ZIF connector in the upper LH corner, viewing with the edge connector
facing me (all descriptions below assume this position).
10 position DIP switch immediately to the right of the ZIF socket (no
labeling), and another 10 position dip switch about halfway up the RHS,
labeled 1 to 7 and B, C, D (probably address selection since one row of pins
is all tied common and most of the pins on the other side of it go to a
74LS154).
One LED, immediately to the right of the first 10 position DIP switch
mentioned above, at the edge of the board.
Two trimpots about center of the far edge of the board, to the right of the
LED.
Two jumper blocks, one with 2 pins, labeled W1, and one with 3 pins, labeled
RO and RA.
Two Toshiba 24 pin TMM2016P-1 RAMs left of center in second row of DIPs on
the board.
One 2516-45 EPROM to the left of the RAMS, with a label on top "6517A".
On the solder side the only markings (in etch) are CUBIT INC, 1981 and the
numbers 10362 and 6583. Most of the date codes on the ICs are between 8037
and 8203. There is no other model number, manufacturer, or other ID marking
on this board.
If anyone has any information on this board, please let me know (through the
list).
Thanks all,
Bill
whdawson(a)mlynk.com
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