From: Carlos Murillo <cem14(a)cornell.edu>
>For me, win95 crashed with just adaptec, 3Com, matrox and SoundBlaster
Gold
>cards. I'd hardly call these obscure brands in the PCI adapter world.
I'm running at work w95osr2 with aha2906 on a scanner for one box and my
desktop is a full house K2-350 (make sure you have the K2 patch) with
CDburner
sound and all. It's a configuration issue usually PLUG and PRAY trying
to
sort out resources.
>>admit that it's because I don't know what the hell I'm doing, when I
use it.
>>Does that mean that Linux is designed badly? If Linux is so great, why
is
>>there an almost daily alert in my inbox from bugzilla, reporting some
>>security risk or other newly found flaw?
Often if linux or any fairly stable OS crashes it's a bad app or driver.
Video drivers are often the worst save to the minimal ones and they may
drive the latest 16meg video.
W95 suffers as its level of file and memory protections is light and apps
can bust it. Treat it like dos (no protections) and pick your apps right
and W95 is amazingly stable. One comment, if you have an app the
breaks check for patches, often they do exist and really help.
>1) There will always be more bugs/security flaws _reported_ for Linux
> because the user base is more demanding (after all that's why they're
> running Linux) and because more people will be checking the open
> source for problems. That doesn't mean that Linux is more bug-prone;
> just that reporting is better.
The issue is granularity, fine bugs vs glaring booboos.
>2) Bugs actually get fixed (quickly) in Linux.
>
>See, the Linux mentality is that we'd rather discover the flaws so we
>can fix them. The MS mentality is: let's put crap out and hope that they
>don't find the holes, and, if they do find them, we'll tell them to
upgrade
>to the next generation of winblows. Only if the flaw is bad enough,
we'll
>release a patch.
MS is very slow on patches and they can be hard to sort out but
they are effective.
>There will always be some OS rivalry based on XenoOSphobia. But,
>most people who hate windows are not unfamiliar with it--rather,
>they hate it because they are all too familiar with it.
;) W95 is one of those. I use it or the like and kind as the world
has gone that way and compatability is important. I'm not satisfied
after working with TOPS-10, CP/M, RT11, RSTS and VMS as my
models of what can or should be. Robustness is something I prize
as well as somthing well known flawed or not.
Consider this:
Stable mature systems we know how to use.
That doesn't mean DOS6.22 is bad only we know it's limits and
can deal with them effectively.
>But MS won't be patient with you. Until we see some real competition,
>they have the upper hand: they can put crap out, and it will be bought.
I think their testing has to reflect the increased complexity and
that other apps are popular and used.
Allison
To all who replied.... many thanks.
One of them had a 16K memory Module (so I guess it's an 85A) and a ROM
drawer with an I/O ROM and a Mass Storage ROM and a HP-IB Interface. I took
a chance after some initial cleaning and powered one up. It worked! But
the keyboard has terrible bounce! It appeared that the printer wanted to
print but without paper in it, I don't know if it does. I plan to
disassemble it for a more thorough cleaning, including removing all the
keycaps and cleaning out the innards of the family of dust bunnies living
there. More weekend cleaning chores!
I will order the CDROM with the manuals - that's the easiest way to get
docs. Are new tapes still available?
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
Ah, well then based on my experience with IBM winchester drives.. it's
actually a metal box containing a smaller thing that is the actual drive
itself.. its probably like 100 or so lbs. disk and 50 some pounds box... To
move my 5360 (System/36) inside, I pulled the two disk drives out (200MB,
14"), and each one only weighs about 70 lbs... However, that cuts 170lbs
>from the weight of the 5360, which weighs about 600 or so lbs. Even with
large drives, don't forget that the HDA is often removable... this greatly
eases moving RA80's and the like.. Of course, for cartridge drives, you're
screwed. But I'm fairly certain the Series/1 uses a winchester, probably a
series 62 variety drive, which is an 8" critter.
Will J
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I'm looking for people in LA to assist with a computer resuce in
Newport Beach on Saturday. If anyone might be able to assist, please
send me email. I've tried to post the details to the list three times
in the last twelve hours, and the posts don't get through, though my
other posts have. I can't figure out if there's some strange conspiracy,
or if an over-zealous spam-filter has run amuck.
Thanks!
Eric
> There is also one 72 pin SIMM socket in the mainboard next to the
> cache slot (which is where the accelerator goes). I wonder what it is
> for...
It was meant to be used for ROM upgrades, but Apple never issued any.
-dq
Hi,
>According to AppleSpec '98, those specs belong to the Mac LC II, not
>the IIc series (which is the IIcx and IIci). The IIcx and IIci have
>no on-board RAM, but have eight 30-pin sockets that can take the
>machines up to 128MB (but on the IIcx you need extra software to
>use anything larger than 32MB).
You're right - brain confused the LCII and the IIci series. Oops.
Bill Layer
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> If you were to get the idea that I'm fed up with what the republicrats
> in the US Congress (more aptly named the "Parliament of Whores" by
> P.J. O'Rourke) are doing for^H^H^Hto us, you'd be absolutely right. If
> you want lower taxes and sane public policy, vote Libertarian.
Right arm!
-dq
I found a nice Mac II yesterday with Natl. Instruments HPIB,
20MB memory, Asante NIC, and framebuffer. What makes it
special is that it has a Daystar accelerator that plugs
in the 68020 and MMU sockets; the accelerator
has a 68040 @ 33Mhz. I had not planned to keep any NuBus
machine (I'm tossing stuff out due to an impending long trip),
but, since I have the Natl. Instruments software for the
HPIB card, and some other interesting Nubus DSP cards,
I am tempted to keep it... so I thought I'd ask some questions
to help me make up my mind.
Does anybody know more about this accelerator? What kind of
performance does it yield compared to, say, one of the later
Quadras? Are there basic differences in the I/O and bus
architecture that will prevent the 68040 from reaching its
full potential on a Mac II mainboard as opposed to a 68040
in a Quadra? Do Quadras have faster SCSI?
Also, the machine has two floppy drives; how do the Mac II
drives rank among those found in Apple machines in terms of
usefulness/durability?
Thanks for your suggestions,
Carlos.
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Carlos Murillo-Sanchez email: cem14(a)cornell.edu
428 Phillips Hall, Electrical Engineering Department
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
[Reposted again, as the first *two* times the message didn't seem to go
through, though my other posts did. Is there some strange conspiracy?]
Is anyone in the LA area available to help with a rescue of a large
computer system in Newport Beach on Saturday, Oct. 21? A friend and I
are arriving at John Wayne airport at about 9:15 AM. We'll take a taxi
if necessary to the Budget Truck Rental location in Newport Beach.
We're supposed to start loading the truck around noon, although we might
try to start earlier.
There are three pieces each about the size of a VAX-11/780 (i.e., 60
inches tall by 46 inches wide by 30 inches deep, and about 1100 pounds).
There are also about six large disk drives. There may be other stuff,
but it probably won't be big and heavy.
The place where the equipment is being picked up has a loading dock. In
theory all we have to do is roll from the currently location down some
hallways to the dock and into the truck. But in practice things are
never as easy as one expects, which is why I'd like to find some
additional help.
Thanks!
Eric
> > My plan now is to
> >beef up the IIci with the accelerator, more memory, a video
> >card and I'll have a neat, small 68K-based Mac II to play with.
> >I will be limiting the mac side of my collection to a Classic II,
> >an SE/30, the accelerated IIci and an 8100.
>
> Does the accelerator solve the memory addressing problems in the IIc
> series? These models have 2MB of RAM built-on , plus two 30-pin sockets
> which will take 4MB SIMMS. Problem is, even with two 4MB SIMMS installed,
> the machine will only recognize a total of 10MB of RAM, not the 12MB that
> is physically present.
According to AppleSpec '98, those specs belong to the Mac LC II, not
the IIc series (which is the IIcx and IIci). The IIcx and IIci have
no on-board RAM, but have eight 30-pin sockets that can take the
machines up to 128MB (but on the IIcx you need extra software to
use anything larger than 32MB).
regards,
-dq
