test-drb October 2000

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VAX Ethernet (was Re: IDE on Qbus (was Re: Microvax II))

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>Does the DELUA have the higher performance mode? I have the DEUNA and >DELUA manuals, and see very little difference in the interface. Those are unibus (non Qbus) and outside my expereince beyond knowing one of the two is better than the other but I forgot which. Apparently they are very different inside despite the common interface. Allison

25 years, 1 month

Beginner into Micros, etc.

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> I guess I'm looking for advice from the list members to whom > this stuff is "old hat". How you shop around for systems of this nature, > how easy it is to interchange hardware, where you manage to find your > systems, what to look for, what to avoid. Things like that. I think the most important thing for the new collector is obtain "Complete" systems. Trying to restore an unfamiliar system by piecing together componets can be quite trying. I rarely collect a new system unless it has the OS, and ALL the hardware. Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

25 years, 1 month

VAX Ethernet (was Re: IDE on Qbus (was Re: Microvax II))

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> >> Cheap as far as I know. The key thing is despite claims if the DEQNA >> you have is working, whats the rush to dump it. > >Isn't there an issue with VMS obsoleting the DEQNA? Remember the discussion of a few days ago. Well the rule for VMS is DEQNA is not obsolete, just unsupported. FYI, unsupported does not mean there is no driver only that the supplied on has not been updated or rigerously tested in those version so dont call and complain if it dont work. It went unsupported with V5.0. >This one was free, as was the uVAXII it was in (RA81, KDA50, 9Mb, etc) Use it. The DELQA and DEQNA have nearly identical modes with the delqa adding a higher performance one(plus reliability). For VMS prior to 7.x it does work and for 7.2 mine seems ok. Allison

25 years, 1 month

Vax 11 -7/80 (plus equipment)

by ncherry＠home.net

On EBAY there is an 11 7/80 (currently 6 cents). The guy has no where to put it and hopes someone can pick it up. It's located in Greencastle IN Anyone? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=470466736 -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)home.net http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only) http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)

25 years, 1 month

Vaxstation 4000/60 help please

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> >I don't know anything about VMS. > >VMS boots and all, but it does not recognize my framebuffer and so won't >run DecWindows yet. How do I fix that? Read "HELP DECWINDOWS" The boot process does not have to recognize the framebuffer, you run DECWINDOWS as a process. FYI it's possible it's not installed. >Of all the drives I've tried, the only one that worked was an old Quantum >210mb. I'd like more flexibility. Any hints on what I need to do to a >drive to make it run on this machine? They generally are 'seen', but VMS >bombs when I try to install. Gotta INIT them first. >Even though I've got cdrom drives that are jumperable for 512byte blocks, >none worked properly but the original RRD40 which is slower than molasis I have two toshibas 2x scsi that work killer so maybe the CDrom is ????! >in February, the only RRD40 we have got, and it requires some wierd cart I >don't have. The only way I can change cd's is to disassemble the drive, >draw the disk out with hemostats, and slip the replacement in. You need a tray, they can be found. it's not that unique. >Basicly, I need a primer on VMS, and someone to corrospond with who knows >his/her stuff. Try the HELP utility, if that cant answer you question then try here. Really, it's kinda cryptic just like manpages but once you get into them you find a lot of info. That and a grey wall is handy too (VMS DOC set for V5 is grey binders about 10 linear feet of them some 17 volumes.) Allison

25 years, 1 month

motorola Exordisk III with 2 8" floppy drives FS

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

See "http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=466646805".

25 years, 1 month

Intel MDS disk drive for auction

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

See "http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=466646805". He wants $100 opening bid which I think is about 10x to much but if you're desperate.... BTW you MUST have the proper controller cards and software to use these. The MDS's DO NOT come with a controller for the dual drives. The single integrated drive is contolled via the I/O control card and it will not operate the external drives. Joe

25 years, 1 month

SCSI-based floppy drives (3.5 or 5.25)

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, Is there any SCSI-based *floppy* drives either in 3.5 or 5.25 (3.5 preferred) format? I might need one for a project I am working on... Ram

25 years, 1 month

VAX Ethernet (was Re: IDE on Qbus (was Re: Microvax II))

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> >Well my recent (last night) experience suggests that what you remember is >true. I was refitting my BA123 with a CPU, 8Mb of PMI memory, my one-and- >only DEQNA and an RQDX3 and stuffed into it a bootable RD54 from a VS2000 >that happens to have VMS 5.5 and some stuff to fire up a LAT server and >clustering. The startup bitched mightily about the presence of the DEQNA >and casual reading of the error messages seemed to tell me that VMS 5.5 >cluster manager did *not* like it one bit. the DEQNA went unsupported because of clustering. Part of the problem was packet errors that required a driver that encapsulated data to insure the errors would be caught. That was a huge perfomance hit on eithernet which by disk standards then was slower, and didn't need further slowing. That added to the DEQNA being an really old PDP-11 design that outlived a lot of revs (L5 is the last I know of) meant a newer and less cranky design was wanting. I'd not use it in a cluster unless I had to but V5.5 was when clusters started to protest (they can be forced). >Because the machine is standalone at the moment, I didn't pay much attention >to it all. Eventually, I do need to get something working with Qbus and >Ethernet (so I can begin to make physical backups of some 9 track tapes I >have sitting here). I'll have to either stuff a KDA50 in this beast and >use my MDA SDI<->ESDI box (dual 1.2Mb disks) or hang a couple of RD53s >off the RQDX3 and limit myself to one or two tapes at a time before shooting >them down the pipe. Don't cluster them, make it peer to peer and it should go fine. >Ah the good old days... Look at the bright side... unlike winders we know what the solution is, winders may also have that knowledge in 10 years. As if we'd care by then. ;) Allison

25 years, 1 month

Free Intel MDS

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I was searching for more info on the Inel MDS and found this ad for a free one. "http://www.dazed.org/blazermate/". There just one hitch, it's located in NSW, Australia. I don't know any more about it. If someone picks it up leet me know. Joe

25 years, 1 month

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