Someone in the UK wants to give away a F&T adding machine. Please reply
to the original sender.
Reply-to: AH3WH(a)ah3wh.freeserve.co.uk
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:01:12 -080
From: Alan Hardman <AH3WH(a)ah3wh.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: enquiry
Dear reader, I have a Felt & Tarrant/Burrows adding machine. I am
going to despose of it. Are you interested in taking it of my hands?
If you are please inform me and to arrange a carrier to collect it.
Yours sincerely, Alan Hardman. Ah3wh(a)ah3wh.freeserve.co.uk
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Hello all:
Thanks to everyone who offered up their opinions about the "best" CP/M
machine.
After digesting the replies and doing a bit of homework, I've decided a
Kaypro 10 would very well suit my needs.
Anybody have one for sale?
TIA,
Glen Goodwin
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> i have a vaxstation3100, not sure of the model, but it's rather
>large, with exposed drive bays and scsi cables leading to both. i have
>two sun cdroms that i'd like to install in it. my question stems from
>that, how the hell do i mount them in there? or, if you know they
>won't work, warn me now before i waste time with lots of duct tape
>installing them. ;>
>
> this is a little offtopic, but the cdroms and the vaxstation are all
>ancient. any help would be appreciated.
(Assuming you've got a 3100 Model 40 - i.e. with the "double decker"
drive trays and a 5.25" cutout):
For testing purposes, just remove the escutcheon covering up an unused
bay and set the drive in there. I'll have to poke around my model 40
and see if I can get you a part number for any mounting hardware
you'll need to install it.
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
hello,
i have a vaxstation3100, not sure of the model, but it's rather
large, with exposed drive bays and scsi cables leading to both. i have
two sun cdroms that i'd like to install in it. my question stems from
that, how the hell do i mount them in there? or, if you know they
won't work, warn me now before i waste time with lots of duct tape
installing them. ;>
this is a little offtopic, but the cdroms and the vaxstation are all
ancient. any help would be appreciated.
--
"you is my elf-ho!!!" -- happy noodle boy
> I was given a MicroVax II over the weekend...looks like it'll be
>something really interesting to work with once I get it running. :-)
> It's got a TK50 drive in it with a tape in the drive that won't come
>out. From what I remember of the TK50s, you push the red button in,
>wait for the green light to come on, and then pull the lever under the
>tape upwards to eject it. Unfortunately, I don't hear any tape noises
>at all from the unit, and the red light flashes very quickly. Green
>light never comes on. Any ideas on getting the tape out of the drive?
>Did I remember correctly how to eject the thing?
A blinking red light means that something is very wrong with the
tape drive. There are several possibilities, including electronic
failure and power supply failure, but the most likely case is that
the take-up leader has come unhooked. You'll have to remove the
drive from the enclosure and look inside the drive to figure out
where to go from here.
Some questions whose answers will determine what you'll have to do
to fix this:
1. Is there much tape wound around the
take-up reel? (You can remove the metal cover over the takeup reel
by taking off three screws.)
2. If the answer to "1" is "No", trace out the plastic leader
from the take-up hub and figure out where it's going (or not
going!) Replacement leaders are only a buck from DECDirect.
3. If the answer to "1" is "Yes", apply power to the drive and see if
any tape motion takes place. If you're lucky, it'll rewind the tape
back into the cartridge. If you're not lucky, you'll have manually
wind the tape back in (or just pull it out and trash the tape.)
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
>Oops, thought I'd mentioned that originally, this is the Sigma chassis for
>two reasons, it fits nicely in the bottom of a rack, and I'm saving the
>BA123 for a spare for my /73.
>
>Here is the original config, didn't work:
>
>KA650 -----
>MS650 -----
>MS650 -----
>RQDX3 TQK50
>-rest empty-
I *suspect* that the whole right-hand-side of the Sigma box is CD-only.
The only way to tell for sure is to pull the backplane and trace it out.
>This worked:
>KA650 -----
>MS650 -----
>MS650 -----
>RQDX3 GRANT
>-rest empty-
>
>and this:
>KA650 -----
>MS650 -----
>MS650 -----
>RQDX3 empty
>GRANT empty
>-rest empty-
>
>Final solution:
>KA650 -----
>MS650 -----
>MS650 -----
>RQDX3 empty
>TQK50 empty
>-rest empty-
This confirms my suspicion that the Sigma backplane you have has
CD slots all the way down the right side (though it's not conclusive;
it might only be CD for the first four slots.)
If, indeed, it is CD all the way down, then putting a TQK50 in
next to a memory card there can heavily confuse the memory mapping and
testing.
>IIRC, the Diagnostic it stopped on was 34 (but might be off a few).
Yes, the early tests are memory bus testing and sizing.
> Seem
>to work great this way, but it sounds like I should swap the RQDX3 and
>TQK50 from what Allison says.
Well, if you're playing fully by the DEC rules you should swap
the cards, but both the RQDX3 and TQK50 are smart heavily buffered
devices, and in such a tiny configuration as you have I doubt there'd
be any differences seen at all. OTOH, if you have 3 Q-bus backplanes
with dozens of "stupid" (unbuffered) cards in each, it does eliminate a
lot of heartache to play by the rules!
>Do you happen to know the configuration of a Sigma Backplane? Somehow I
>suspect that would answer my questions.
>I solved my problem. Moved the TQK50 to the next row after the RQDX3,
>instead of beside it and it works fine. Don't quite understand that, since
>I'm positive I had the RQDX3 and TQK50 in the exact same spot with the
>KA650 board set as they'd been with the KA630 board set, and I saw it
>working in that config.
>
>Does a system care if you've got a grant continuity board in a spot that
>you shouldn't have a board? It seems to me that it should.
Again, you aren't really giving us enough details (What backplane slots?
Which backplane? Your previous message mentioned both a BA123 and
a Sigma box, but I couldn't figure out which one you were trying to
use the boards in. What else is in the system? What exactly was the problem?
In your previous message you said "the problem was the TK50 controller", but
I still haven't a clue what the symptoms were!) to answer your question, but
if you draw out the arrangement of cards both "before" and "after" I'll
take a shot!
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
<I solved my problem. Moved the TQK50 to the next row after the RQDX3,
<instead of beside it and it works fine. Don't quite understand that, sinc
<I'm positive I had the RQDX3 and TQK50 in the exact same spot with the
<KA650 board set as they'd been with the KA630 board set, and I saw it
<working in that config.
There is a priority and TK50 should be higher than RQDXn. Higher prioity
means closer to the cpu. In most of the BA23/123/213 boxes the bus is
serpetine so it may not always be obvious whos first.
<Does a system care if you've got a grant continuity board in a spot that
<you shouldn't have a board? It seems to me that it should.
If it's the AB wired bus YES! Without it there would be no interrupt or dma
grant down the line to what ever cards are next.
One for the Commodore people -
In my latest haul from the tip shop I got an unusual power supply that I don't recognise; it's made of metal, black, a little larger than the CBM "brick" type power supply for the original VIC's & C64's, oblong in shape has a 7 pin round plug, 9VDC at 1amp output, no ID except for "Commodore Personal Computer Power Supply" on it, serial # 100659, so can't tell (at least from the no.) where it was made.
Anyone know what thisa belongs to ?
// Lance Lyon
black(a)gco.apana.org.au
llyon(a)primus.com.au
lance999(a)hotmail.com
Ph: +61-3-6254-7376 //
Here we go again with RSTS... ^_^ The incriminating evidence follows.
(Windows users select a monospaced font to read this, or it won't make
sense.)
Now I just gotta write UUCP for RSTS/E, and find a place to network this
sucker... (Hehe, 1,2!usagi-circus(a)umtec.com - This much fun is probably
illegal! ^_^)
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#BA0:/ERROR:FATAL/NOQUEUE/NODELETE
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NO
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Detaching . . .
HELLO
=FF
RSTS V7.0-07 -USAGI CIRCUS- Job 5 KB0 05-Sep-99 11:17 PM
#1,2
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System RSTS V7.0-07 -USAGI CIRCUS-
Run time was 2.8 seconds
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