-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Smith <wsmith(a)gj.com>
>Has anyone ever heard of a "Kaypro PC-10"? The Kaypro PC models I am
familiar with are the 16 and 2000. Someone is selling a manual for a PC-10
on eBay:
>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=164605910
>
>My guess is that it is an abortive non-portable PC effort.
>
Yes, my boss owned a KayPro desktop XT or maybe it was an AT clone back in
1987. I got some of my work done on it that summer. I am not sure, but I
would imagine that that was the PC-10 or whatever back then. The 10
probably meant the size of the HDD.
I remember comparing it to the KayPro 2X I used at home and finding the CP/M
machine to be faster. One of the reasons I didn't upgrade until 1993. (I
upgraded to a $50 Packard Hell XT that I still have :-)
I have looked at Ebay and notice that the KayPro CP/M machines don't seem to
bring in much money. Makes me feel better about giving mine away in 1996.
Regards,
Jim, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Web Ring, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net
Life is an endless struggle full of frustrations and challenges, but
eventually you find a hairstyle you like.
>This agrees with my statement. Note that you do not have to cancel bids if
>the reserve was not met and you don't want to sell. And your "valid reason"
>need be nothing more than you felt like it. Yes, you are obligated to sell
>to the legitimate high bidder (which presumably happened in the HP2114
>case)
Ah - but if you look further into the rules for cancelling, it states:
>You should only cancel bids if you have a good reason to. Also, please
>remember that bids cannot be reinstated once they've been canceled. Here
>are a few examples of a legitimate cancellation:
>
> Bidder contacts you to back out of the bid.
> You cannot verify the identity of the bidder, after trying all
> reasonable means of contact.
> You want to end your auction early because you no longer want to sell
> your item. In this case you must cancel all bids on your auction
> before ending the auction.
Note the last one here... "because you no longer want to sell your item".
This is not the same as no longer wanting to sell your item *on ebay*
because you have been offerred more off ebay...
I guess my feeling is that what the seller did was unethical since he did
want to sell the item. If he wanted to sell the item, and put it up for
bid, then he is accepting the risk, like anyone else, of not getting what
they would like for it. That should not be sufficient cause for stopping
the auction and making those who bid in good faith suffer from his
greediness.
>Because your cancellation will be put in the bidding history for this
>auction, bidders may ask you to explain your cancellation. So, please
>include a one-line explanation of your cancellation for the official
>record.
And from all the questions about what happened to the auction, and why
it was ended early... it would appear the seller didn't even do this.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>it's a computer. It's a silver obling piece badges as a "TRS-80 Pocket
>>Computer". It seems to undestand a subset of BASIC, it has a
printer/cassette
>>interface (as a seperate unit, and the printer ribbon is shot), and acts
>>like any other TRS-80 I've met so far.
They were also manditory purchases for freshmen for DeVry Institute's EET
courses circa '84
;)
Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
Does anyone have documentation on the USR Password Modem?
I have two of them I'd like to press back into service, but haven't a
clue how to set the password/callback control. Web searching on "USR
Password Modem" yields amusing, if not predictable, but irrelevant
results.
Regards,
Elmo
Today I hauled in something that I have no experience whatsoever with,
but that I'm sure most people in classiccmp own: a microvax II.
I don't know if it works, or how to hook a terminal to it to
test it. Here's what I've been able to gather:
Cards:
Slot description
1 CPU? it has two interesting-looking chips:
1: LSILIA 0485, 21-23413-01, DC379, TAC 8546
2: LSILIA 0486, 21-23389-01, DC379, CAC 8544
This is connected to a DB9M in the back panel (console goes here?
what is the pinout? what is the funny-labeled rotary switch next to
it?)
2 nemonix memory board, holds 56 TC511000AP-10 chips
3 dec memory board, holds 144 41256-212141302 chips
4 dec board, some labels are: LPWR M94V-1 25787, and "M7516" in the
extraction handle; connected to a DB15F in the back panel
5 dec board, (disk controller?), reads M7555 in the extraction handle,
connected to what seems to be an older RLL hard drive
Hard drive: RD53-A rev A
label in the back panel:
Model: 630QB-A2
product variation: changed from 630QB-A2 to DH630Q4E2 by WFD.
So what exactly is this beast and how can I test if it works?
Best regards,
Carlos.
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, mark acierno wrote:
>is there a pdp8 mailing list????
There certainly is... PDP8-LOVERS:
Contact: pdp8-lovers-owner(a)onelist.com (James E. Carpenter)
Purpose: To facilitate communication and cooperation between
owners of vintage DEC computers, specifically, but not limited
to, the PDP-8 series of minicomputers. The list is gatewayed
to the Usenet newsgroup alt.sys.pdp8.
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/pdp8-lovers
To subscribe, send email to
pdp8-lovers-subscribe(a)onelist.com
Listserver: ONElist
Another important PDP-8 online resources is the Usenet newsgroup "alt.sys.pdp8",
which gets a copy of Doug Jones' FAQ every two months (also readable at
http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/
).
--
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is there a pdp8 mailing list????
mark acierno
>From: "Jay West" <jlwest(a)tseinc.com>
>Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
>To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Re: INFO-PDP11 mailing list needs to move soon!
>Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 07:04:23 -0500
>
>I have a full time domain, and a burstable 10mb ethernet connection to two
>major backbones. I'd be willing to host the mailing list, and if desired
>would consider "absorbing" the charge of registering a domain just for the
>list.
>
>Jay West
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com>
>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:43 AM
>Subject: FW: INFO-PDP11 mailing list needs to move soon!
>
>
> > If any of you have a full-time domain under your control, and could
> >consider hosting the INFO-PDP11 mailing list server, please contact Pat
> >Barron as noted in the attached message.
> >
> > Thanks. Attachment follows.
> >
> >-=-=- <snip> -=-=-
> >
> >On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:53 -0400 (EDT), in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote:
> >
> >>>From: Pat Barron <pat(a)transarc.com>
> >>>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
> >>>Subject: INFO-PDP11 mailing list needs to move soon!
> >>>Message-ID:
><Pine.GSO.3.96.990914180619.11989A-100000(a)smithfield.transarc.ibm.com>
> >>>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
> >>>Organization: Info-Pdp11<==>Vmsnet.Pdp-11 Gateway
> >>>X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List
> >>>Lines: 19
> >>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >>>Mime-Version: 1.0
> >>>Path:
>news1.jps.net!news-west.eli.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!news.globix.net!news.idt.ne
>t!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.kjsl.com!mvb.saic.com!info-pdp11
> >>>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.pdp-11:71
> >>>
> >>>Due to some logistical changes at work, it appears that I will not be
> >>>able to host the INFO-PDP11 mailing list here for much longer. I am
> >>>currently seeking a volunteer to take over the care and feeding of this
> >>>mailing list. The ideal candidate should have a mail server under
>his/her
> >>>direct control, with good Internet connectivity. If you use an
> >>>automated list maintenance package like Majordomo, the actual time
> >>>required for list administration is not substantial. If you might
> >>>be willing to take on this task, please drop me a note and let me know.
> >>>
> >>>I have maintained this list for the last 11 years or so, and I've been
> >>>very glad over that time to take care of this discussion list. The
>PDP-11
> >>>was the first "real" computer I ever used, and it was where I got all
>of
> >>>my early experience with Unix kernel hacking, so it still holds a
>special
> >>>place in my heart. However, for good or bad, it appears that I will
> >>>[finally! ;-)] need to move on to other things - though even if/when
>the
> >>>list does move, I'll still be a reader!
> >>>
> >>>--Pat.
> >
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho,
> >Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com
> >Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com
> >"...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an
>object,
> >event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define
>any of them..."
> >
>
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Richard wrote...
>First of all, there are doc's relating to ISIS-II which (IIRC) was the
8-bit
>development environment of the very early '80's.
That reminds me...
I'm trying to dig up an old contact who was the original owner of an ISIS
system like you mention. As I recall it was blue, a large bulky perfectly
square monitor, and there was an 8" floppy drive in the monitor case. There
was a hex keypad on the main bottom board too vaguely like the heathkit H8.
I'm somewhat confident that he still has the machine and would give it up, I
just haven't had the time to contact him. If anything comes up I'll let the
list know...
Jay West
I have a full time domain, and a burstable 10mb ethernet connection to two
major backbones. I'd be willing to host the mailing list, and if desired
would consider "absorbing" the charge of registering a domain just for the
list.
Jay West
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:43 AM
Subject: FW: INFO-PDP11 mailing list needs to move soon!
> If any of you have a full-time domain under your control, and could
>consider hosting the INFO-PDP11 mailing list server, please contact Pat
>Barron as noted in the attached message.
>
> Thanks. Attachment follows.
>
>-=-=- <snip> -=-=-
>
>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:53 -0400 (EDT), in vmsnet.pdp-11 you wrote:
>
>>>From: Pat Barron <pat(a)transarc.com>
>>>Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
>>>Subject: INFO-PDP11 mailing list needs to move soon!
>>>Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.3.96.990914180619.11989A-100000(a)smithfield.transarc.ibm.com>
>>>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
>>>Organization: Info-Pdp11<==>Vmsnet.Pdp-11 Gateway
>>>X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List
>>>Lines: 19
>>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>Path:
news1.jps.net!news-west.eli.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!news.globix.net!news.idt.ne
t!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.kjsl.com!mvb.saic.com!info-pdp11
>>>Xref: news1.jps.net vmsnet.pdp-11:71
>>>
>>>Due to some logistical changes at work, it appears that I will not be
>>>able to host the INFO-PDP11 mailing list here for much longer. I am
>>>currently seeking a volunteer to take over the care and feeding of this
>>>mailing list. The ideal candidate should have a mail server under
his/her
>>>direct control, with good Internet connectivity. If you use an
>>>automated list maintenance package like Majordomo, the actual time
>>>required for list administration is not substantial. If you might
>>>be willing to take on this task, please drop me a note and let me know.
>>>
>>>I have maintained this list for the last 11 years or so, and I've been
>>>very glad over that time to take care of this discussion list. The
PDP-11
>>>was the first "real" computer I ever used, and it was where I got all of
>>>my early experience with Unix kernel hacking, so it still holds a special
>>>place in my heart. However, for good or bad, it appears that I will
>>>[finally! ;-)] need to move on to other things - though even if/when the
>>>list does move, I'll still be a reader!
>>>
>>>--Pat.
>
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho,
>Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com
>Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com
>"...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an
object,
>event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define
any of them..."
>
