Wow!!! I think I just smoked the power distribution unit on the RL02 rack,
but I just booted RT-11 V4 on the PDP-11/44! It is Alive!!!
Zane
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
I've been reading back issues of Micro Cornucopia... They have a lot of
glowing things to say about the TI 34010. Has anyone used one? They sound
very powerful and they fit my ideas about what graphics hardware should do.
my ideasx: easy programmability and flexible memory architecture are good.
Comprehensive text routines are as important as graphics routines. If
hardware is proprietary (like 3D cards for IBM clones) or nonstandard (like
cheap VGA cards for IBM clones) or the OS can't deal with it, I don't really
want to deal with it either.
-- Derek
There was a thread earlier about APC III's and I recall people asking for
boot disks.
I found a working machine today with a hard drive, and have made a teledisk
image of a 360k boot disk that works if the machine has an SLE card fitted.
It's MS Dos 2.11 .
Email me for a copy.
If there is no SLE card it would need the original OS on a quad density
disk. The SLE card in this one wasn't labelled as such, just a card in an
expansion slot with an 8086 chip and Eproms on it.
Hans
Hi Gang:
This evening I completed some long-overdue information updates on the
highgate.comm.sfu.ca PDP-8 web page.
27 new pdp-8 related documents are now available. About two dozen more
items will be added shortly.
See http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/pdp8 for details. The new items are flagged.
Thanks as always to "scanmaster" David Gesswein for the content.
Kevin
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Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
Seems like someday you just can't buy a break... Good or bad, and
sometimes they come in lots!
The past two weekends have been both good and bad around the Computer
Garage...
The good: some major new additions to the collection
The bad: my faithful Chevy Surburban that has provided transport for so
much gear over the years has suffered a rather major mechanical failure...
(sigh)
Preferring to think to the good side tho...
I've added a fairly complete Tektronix 4054 graphics computer system to the
collection. Along with it came a hard copy unit, external tape drive, a
rather large flat bed plotter, and a full set of docs and tapes!
Now I've just got go get a large enough flat spot cleared out to light this
critter up! (it supposedly all works!) And man, that is one LARGE (19
inch) storage tube!)
Then just today I picked up a rather complete set of IBM F.E. manuals and
docs for the early Unit Record / EAM machines! The docs are in fine shape
for their age (received them from a 31 year IBM vet.) and appear to cover
all of the early key punches, sorters, collators, tabulating machines,
etc... Most cool!
And to go with it, I just picked up an IBM model 82 sorter! (that was on
Friday tho...)
Also sorting thru the acqusitions from the Paxton auction last week... DEC
TU-81+ tape drive, MINC-11, and RA-81 hard drive, a pair of HP 1000F (aka
2117F) CPUs (anyone got docs on these critters?), a Tektronix 4006-1
graphics terminal and model 230 digital unit, an HP 9000/20 (aka 9000/520)
workstation, and other minor random goodies...
I'd be having an even better time if I were not so bummed over the 'Sub...
But, all in all, not a totally horrible weekend or two, eh?
And hopefully, I'll get caught up with my photography of the collection as
I finally broke down and picked up a digital camera, which has already made
it's debut with the shots of the Paxton auction. If of course, I can stop
running around picking up new equipment and crawling under vehicles having
to fix things... B^}
(ok... so maybe if I could just stop having to crawl under vehicles!)
-jim
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jimw(a)computergarage.org
The Computer Garage - http://www.computergarage.org
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
At 04:57 PM 4/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Just kidding, but I am looking for some info. I found a good condition 128K
>>Mac at a sale today, with most of the original packaging and materials. I'd
>
>If it says 128k, its not the first Macintosh, which was just labeled
>Macintosh. The 128k marking didn't come out until later models were
>released to differentiate it.
>
>
My original post may have been misleading. It just says "Macintosh" on the
back of the case. I'm assuming that it's a 128K Mac because: it has a 400K
floppy drive, no hard drive port on the back, and all of the system
software (Finder, MacWrite, MacPaint) is version 1.0, dated early in 1984.
Also, all of the accompanying documentation seems to be from the original
issue. There's a "limited time" subscription offer to a brand new magazine
called MacWorld - think they'll still honour it?
How can I check the memory capacity, to see if it's a 128K or a 512K Fat
Mac? I'm not that familiar with Macs.
Regards,
Mark.
This all sounds like a lot of trouble.
They all had labels on the front you know. The AT had "IBM Personal Computer
AT",
the XT similar with "XT". The only one that looks indistinct was the
original PC which just said "IBM Personal Computer".
Failing that they had labels on the back. The PC was model 5150, the XT
model 5160 and the AT model 5170 as I recall.
Hans Olminkhof
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, 26 April 1999 10:09
Subject: Re: PC question
>If they are IBM boxes, then the shape will give that away. If the box has
a
>sloped front, then it's an XT. If the floppy is a full-height drive, it's
>an XT, and if you look inside it will be really obvious, in that the XT
>motherboard is confined to the area to the left (as you face the front of
>the box) of the power supply. Most obvious of all, of course, is the fact
>that the XT had no 16-bit slots in the motherboard. XT-types generally had
>a floppy controller and a separate hard disk controller. The AT had a
>single controller for both.
>
>Dick
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com>
>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 5:55 PM
>Subject: PC question
>
>
>>
>>Yesterday, at the KS10 move, I came away with two IBM PCs, but I
>>don't know enough about them to know if they are the AT or XT
>>models... they both have a 5.25" floppy and a hard drive, and
>>both have color monitors.
>>
>>They are both desktop boxes... the monitors were sitting on top
>>of them.
>>
>>So, how do I tell...
>>
>> Megan Gentry
>> Former RT-11 Developer
>>
>>+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
>>| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
>>| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
>>| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
>>| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
>>| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
>>| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
>>+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
>
>No, it's really wierd. I smelled smoke, at which point I started
>worrying, and then realized the RL02 wasn't spun up, so I figured that
>was it. Then I noticed the breaker on the back of the RL02 was tripped,
>so I switched it back on, it started to spin up, and it tripped again.
>Plugged it into the surge supressor, and it worked. I didn't notice any
>load buzzing, but then with the way stuff is arranged at the moment for
>testing, I probably wouldn't, unless it was REALLY loud.
Just to let you know... when the RLs are powered on, there is about
a 10 second or so period in which they sound like they might be
buzzing... the motor is turning very slowly during that time. After
it does this, you should hear a click as the buzzing stops and the
cover interlock disengages.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
If they are IBM boxes, then the shape will give that away. If the box has a
sloped front, then it's an XT. If the floppy is a full-height drive, it's
an XT, and if you look inside it will be really obvious, in that the XT
motherboard is confined to the area to the left (as you face the front of
the box) of the power supply. Most obvious of all, of course, is the fact
that the XT had no 16-bit slots in the motherboard. XT-types generally had
a floppy controller and a separate hard disk controller. The AT had a
single controller for both.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 5:55 PM
Subject: PC question
>
>Yesterday, at the KS10 move, I came away with two IBM PCs, but I
>don't know enough about them to know if they are the AT or XT
>models... they both have a 5.25" floppy and a hard drive, and
>both have color monitors.
>
>They are both desktop boxes... the monitors were sitting on top
>of them.
>
>So, how do I tell...
>
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
>
>+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
>| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
>| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
>| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
>| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
>| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
>| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
>+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
Just kidding, but I am looking for some info. I found a good condition 128K
Mac at a sale today, with most of the original packaging and materials. I'd
like to know if anything's missing, other than the original packing box for
the system unit itself. I'd like to have a complete set of Mac Ver. 1
materials. What I have is:
-the original boxes for the mouse and keyboard, with stylized colour
paintings of a mouse and keyboard on the boxes.
-a plastic box with the word Macintosh at the upper left, and a stylized
Apple at the lower right. It contains a Mac System Disk, a disk Guided Tour
to the Mac, an audio cassette Guided Tour, a "Programmers Button" option,
several Apple computer stickers, several Apple disk labels, a Macintosh
manual, and power cord.
-a MacWrite/MacPaint box, with a MacWrite/MacPaint disk, a disk Guided Tour
to MacWrite/MacPaint, an audiotape Guided Tour, and a MacWrite manual.
Should there be a separate MacPaint manual as well?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Mark.
