test-drb December 1999

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by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> I am just wondering what some of us collect that we consider the screwiest > ourselves. For example, for reasons I can't fathom I have started > collecting Apple logo AC power cords, and have a couple dozen of various > styles now. An off-topic thread that has already gone on too long - but I've only had time to reply to the "swords" subthread so far, so here goes anyway... Of the things I collect, mostly in small quantities, I think coins and cars are the only ones _not_ screwy. So: Classic computers (of course) Hymn books (full music editions if I can get them) Musical instruments. Ah yes. Musical instruments. Definitely the screwiest thing I collect. Why? I have only one piano, and a bassoon and a banjo and a guitar and ... Well, I collect electronic keyboards, the older the better, like classic computers. Heck, some of them practically _are_ classic computers. And I collect ethnic instruments from the strange parts of the world I visit. (I wish I'd bought that dulcimer in the traditional instrument shop in Bangkok...) Like, in Jakarta, I bought a gong. 28 inches in diameter, and weighing, um, I was going to say nearly 100lb but I think it's a bit less. I'll have to weigh it. I wish I'd known how expensive excess baggage charges are --- it cost me $700 US just to ship the damned thing home... When not in use at concerts and things, the gong does duty as my doorbell. I wondered about a mechanical system, but settled in the end for an electrical one: solenoid is driven by a monostable made from two relays. Screwy enough for you? Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

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hey, have old computer stuff for sale, have to make some room here

by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

1 Mark wrote: > Hey all, I have a bunch of old comptuer stuff that I need to move to make > room here in the apartment...argh....I have some up for auction on EBAY, you > can look at those auctions if you wish at: [...] > Here is the other stuff I have here at the house, not yet up for auction. > Please let me know if any of you are interested. Has anyone responded to this yet? There's been so much traffic, I've been deleting a lot the last few days. Anyway, I might be interested in some of it, but, as we periodically have to tell the list, YOU MUST SAY WHERE IN THE WORLD YOU ARE!!! Even which side of the Atlantic you're on would be a help! Philip. (who is in Coalville, England FWIW) This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read by those to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. This company therefore disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability of any kind which may arise from any person acting, or refraining from acting, upon the contents of the message without having had subsequent written confirmation. If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)2476 425474

25 years

Wanted: Newer DEC serial terminals with PC-style keyboard

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know where I can get some newer (vt220 or better) DEC serial terminals that have a PC-style keyboard (or at least better than an LK201; I need something with a real ESC key...). I've got a mint-condition IBM 3151 with amber screen, if anybody's interested in it (or alternately, anybody know where I can get the VT100 "emulation" card for this thing? its a great terminal, just wont emulate ansi/VTxx...) Thanks. Bill -- Bill Bradford * mrbill(a)mrbill.net / http://www.mrbill.net mrbill(a)sunhelp.org / http://www.sunhelp.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using Windows NT for mission-critical applications." -- What Yoda *meant* to say

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Anyone got PL/M compilers ??

by edick＠idcomm.com

There were several PL/M compilers when I last looked at the "unofficial CP/M Web Site" which has been moved/closed or something but the files from which are purportedly still out there somewhere. Perhaps someone can fill us in. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Vincent HImpe <vincent.himpe(a)mie.alcatel.be> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:52 PM Subject: Anyone got PL/M compilers ?? >Hi all > >Just thought i might try my luck here. I'm looking for *ANY* PL/M >compiler ( PLM80 PLM51 PLM96 PM960 PLM86 ) >for DOS . They cut development of these long ago but it's still my >favorite language for low level stuff ( next to assembler ) > >anyone got any clue where to get these ? > > >Vincent > > >

25 years

Anyone got PL/M compilers ??

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

>There were several PL/M compilers when I last looked at the "unofficial CP/M >Web Site" which has been moved/closed or something but the files from which >are purportedly still out there somewhere. Perhaps someone can fill us in. http://cpm.interfun.net/ is now the main site for the unofficial CP/M web page. Indeed there is a PL/M compiler at http://cpm.interfun.net/binary.html it's the 8080 ISIS version packaged with an ISIS emulator for MS-DOS that provides just enough functionality to run the PL/M compiler. Intel had this available for download from their web site (as well as a PL/M-51 compiler) for some time, but I haven't looked recently to see if it's still there. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

25 years

VAXstation vs MicroVAX (was Re: dammit...)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

>The only unique thing about the VS2000s I have is they 8mb, 12 and 14mb >ram respectively. A note on that is MV2000 is not fast mostly due to disk >IO but adding ram to the 14mb limit does really help if there is any >swaping going on. Of course finding ram is the real trick. I have a MicroVAX 2000 that was used to test the hybrid data separator in the 3100 as they came off the assembly line. It has a plastic box attached to the top with a ZIF connector, which is wired to the guts of the 2000 such that the 2000 can reroute the data from the disk drives through the ZIF connector. The test app runs under VMS; it locks itself into memory, switches to the hybrid data separator, then runs tests on the data separator using the disk (RD32) from which it booted. I'll have to take a picture of it someday and put it on a web site somewhere. I wound up with it because the company that made the data separators couldn't figure out how to break into the system. I had the console auto-log into an account that just ran the test app. All they had to do to break in was hook a terminal up to the 25-pin port and punch ENTER... Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

25 years

Anyone got PL/M compilers ??

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

>Just thought i might try my luck here. I'm looking for *ANY* PL/M >compiler ( PLM80 PLM51 PLM96 PM960 PLM86 ) >for DOS . They cut development of these long ago but it's still my >favorite language for low level stuff ( next to assembler ) There's a PL/M80 compiler written in FORTRAN IV on the Walnut Creek CP/M CDROM. I've used it under VMS and spit the source through Microsoft's F80 (it took a little tweaking and the resulting object files were so large there was no point in attempting to link them). Gene Buckle has a copy of the CDROM hanging off his CP/M page at http://deltasoft.fife.wa.us./cpm/. Take a look at http://deltasoft.fife.wa.us./cpm/cdrom/CPM/MISC/PLM80.ARK in particular. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

25 years

old stuff

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Anyone interested in this stuff? Contact the owner directly. Joe >Return-Path: <bjmace(a)bellsouth.net> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:07:12 -0500 >From: Brian Mason <bjmace(a)bellsouth.net> >X-Accept-Language: en >To: rigdonj(a)intellistar.net >Subject: old stuff > >i am moving, jax beach florida, to hawaii. i have all original >equipment and programs for commodre 64 and ibm' first pc's with WORD and >many other original programs iw ish to sell to someone who would >appreciate this grand old equipment. could you please advise or give >some direction thanks brian mason 904-273-5282 > >

25 years

Wanted: Newer DEC serial terminals with PC-style keyboard

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>> Anybody know where I can get some newer (vt220 or better) DEC serial >> terminals that have a PC-style keyboard (or at least better than an LK201; >> I need something with a real ESC key...). >If you really want an ESC key, find a VT100! Heck, I want a <ALTMODE> key! Tim.

25 years

VAXstation vs MicroVAX (was Re: dammit...)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> wrote: > > <I didn't mention it, but yes, there is the three-port MMJ adapter. I have > <one or two. The max ports on a MicroVAX 2000 is indeed 12. The DEC hot > > ???? no way. The base board does not have more than 4 usarts on it. Is > that an add in board? Yes. A daughter card for the CPU and a card under the skirt with a 36-pin centronics connector that has a H-mumble-mumble harmonica on the other end of a cable. The distribution card goes next to the SCSI-1 connector and the DB50P connector for the external RD53/RD54 drive. > My vax collection has: > > 3 VS3100/m10 (each has 24mb) plus two BA42 drive cases (each holds RZ56). > 1 VS3100/m76SPX 32mb, RZ24, RZ25, RZ26 TLZ04 tape. > 3 VS2000 (two with rd54 one with RD53 and one TK50Z) > 1 BA123 based MicrovaxII (KA630) 16mb, 2 RD53, RZ56, RX50) > 1 BA23 based MicrvaxII (ka630) 9mb, DHV11, TK50, RD54 > > All connected with 10b2 running DECnet. Well... to inventory... 2 MV2000 w/6Mb, 2xRD54 (one TK50Z-FA to share, one with DHT32 serial add-on) 2 VS2000 w/unknown (recently aquired from a friend's estate, untested) 1 uVAX-I w/4Mb, RQDX2+RD32+RX50 1 uVAX-II in BA123 w/9Mb, RQDX3+RD54+RX50, KDA50+shared RA81, DEQNA, TQK50 1 uVAX-II in BA23 w/17Mb, RQDX3+RD53+RX50, KDA50+shared RA81 2 11/750 w/8Mb and 14Mb, SI9900 each, Fuji Eagle, UDA50, Emulex serial, etc. 1 11/730 w/5Mb, RB80+RL02, DMF-32. 1 8300 w/16Mb, KDB50+shared RA81, DEBNT The uVAX-I, one uVAX-II, one 11/750 and the 11/730 were purchased by my former employer new from DEC. The 8300 was purchased used (at $12K), and I picked up the rest of the stuff in more recent years when stuff was essentially at "haul it out of here" prices when it could be found at all. Only the MV2000s are networked to anything. The 11/7xx machines are in storage for a while longer; the 8300 is set up in the basement, but I've never gotten the DEBNT working (cable issues, I expect; I only added it last year, played with it for a couple of evenings and moved on to other tasks). I've got a lot more VAX equipment than time to play with it, but once upon a time, I _did_ run a support organization from my basement (1992- 1995). Everyone has a 30A Hubble Twist-n-lok receptical attached to their breaker panel, don't they? I'm looking forward to a powerful VAX with modern low-power disks and minimal electricity consumption. I only wish it came with a TZ07(?) SCSI 9-track drive. Then I could easily archive my magtape library. > My fix, skip the connectors, soldered connection. Well... that's certainly one solution I hadn't considered. It *would* be more reliable, and really, how often do you need to change out a TK50 motor anyway? -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com

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test-drb December 1999